Super XV 2014 General Discussion Thread

Swiwi. · 19-04-2014 10:17am

Nice start to the bank holiday weekend! See you out West b.gud

Kiwi_knock · 19-04-2014 10:17am

Kick is missed. Great victory for the Crusaders

b.gud · 19-04-2014 10:19am

Cracker of a game, great fight back from the crusaders they are deserved winners

b.gud · 19-04-2014 10:20am

Swiwi. wrote: »

Nice start to the bank holiday weekend! See you out West b.gud

Enjoy Cliffden I'll be roaring on Connacht to victory tonight

Taco Corp · 19-04-2014 10:28am

has Sean Fitzpatrick ever said anything that wasn't a cliché ?

Kiwi_knock · 19-04-2014 10:41am

Jaysus Folau. Only takes 30 seconds.

sydthebeat · 19-04-2014 10:42am

Folau takes 30 second to score another try. ... hell yeah!!!

matthew8 · 19-04-2014 10:42am

It only took 30 seconds and Folau is back on the scoresheet.

Buer · 19-04-2014 10:42am

Disappointing he was so slow off the mark today.

Taco Corp · 19-04-2014 10:43am

lovely line by AAC too

Morf · 20-04-2014 12:46am

Buer wrote: »

Disappointing he was so slow off the mark today.

Aussie rugby in crisis . . .

LuckyGent88 · 21-04-2014 7:19am

So it seems that the benji Marshall experiment with the blues has failed.

Both Kirwan and Marshall have agreed that things haven't worked out and Marshall has looked to get a release from his contract.

http://m.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/benji-marshall-seeks-return-to-nrl-20140421-zqxdz.html

Never thought he would make the successful jump to union from league. His defence is extremely weak and didn't have the tactical kicking game to be able to control a match.

thomond2006 · 21-04-2014 12:00pm

Toys out of the pram? He's only been at Blues for a cup of coffee!

Morf · 21-04-2014 12:09pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

Toys out of the pram? He's only been at Blues for a cup of coffee!

The fact he said in almost every interview and I paraphrase "I just wasn't that motived (presumably about the game in general) the last couple of seasons (with West Tigers)" might come back to haunt him.

Swiwi. · 21-04-2014 5:49pm

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

So it seems that the benji Marshall experiment with the blues has failed.

Both Kirwan and Marshall have agreed that things haven't worked out and Marshall has looked to get a release from his contract.

http://m.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/benji-marshall-seeks-return-to-nrl-20140421-zqxdz.html

Never thought he would make the successful jump to union from league. His defence is extremely weak and didn't have the tactical kicking game to be able to control a match.

The dampest of damp squibs. Not even viagra could help his limp performances.

When you see players like Anscombe & Fekitoa forced to look elsewhere, and then Marshall recruited for megabucks, Qs should be (and are being) asked.

Thankfully there's Israel Folau to restore faith in league converts...

its_phil · 21-04-2014 7:23pm

Swiwi. wrote: »

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Thankfully there's Israel Folau to restore faith in league converts...

And Chris Ashton... :pac:

Morf · 21-04-2014 9:14pm

its_phil wrote: »

And Chris Ashton... :pac:

And Willie Mason . . .

Swiwi. · 22-04-2014 6:58am

Rumours resurfacing of Gareth Anscombe being whisked off to Wales (Cardiff Blues, where the Canes Mark Hammett is rumoured to get the coaching gig) to solve Gatland's flyhalf issues. Unlike other Kiwis being targeted, Gareth is actually Welsh through his Mum, so no need to play 3 years of Welsh domestic rugby while awaiting the international call-up. IMO he's a (much) better FB than 10, but with Halfpenny presumably having a mortgage on the 15 shirt, he could well be targeted for a stint in the 10 jersey. What wouldn't be in doubt is the class of Wales goalkicking, Anscombe is once again running at >80% this season, and Leigh needs no re-introduction.

I think he will move, he's not going to get an AB 10 shirt, and there is just too much logjam at 15. All that might change in 2016, but at 22 years old, he might not want to wait until he's 24 to play test match footie. Patience doesn't really seem a virtue these days, and who knows he could even end up swapping the red of Wales for the red of the Lions and heading back downunder in '17...

irishbucsfan · 22-04-2014 8:47am

Swiwi. wrote: »

Rumours resurfacing of Gareth Anscombe being whisked off to Wales (Cardiff Blues, where the Canes Mark Hammett is rumoured to get the coaching gig) to solve Gatland's flyhalf issues. Unlike other Kiwis being targeted, Gareth is actually Welsh through his Mum, so no need to play 3 years of Welsh domestic rugby while awaiting the international call-up. IMO he's a (much) better FB than 10, but with Halfpenny presumably having a mortgage on the 15 shirt, he could well be targeted for a stint in the 10 jersey. What wouldn't be in doubt is the class of Wales goalkicking, Anscombe is once again running at >80% this season, and Leigh needs no re-introduction.

I think he will move, he's not going to get an AB 10 shirt, and there is just too much logjam at 15. All that might change in 2016, but at 22 years old, he might not want to wait until he's 24 to play test match footie. Patience doesn't really seem a virtue these days, and who knows he could even end up swapping the red of Wales for the red of the Lions and heading back downunder in '17...

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_9277783,00.html

Planet Rugby are carrying it this morning. It'd be great to see him go to the Blues, regardless of which position he ends up playing.

It'd be really interesting if Wales stopped selecting Halfpenny and went with Anscombe at 15. That'd be a shot across the bow for players who leave to go to the Top 14!

Jacovs · 22-04-2014 11:02am

By the end of the Super Rugby season there will be 49 Springboks playing overseas and 48 in SA.
Grim.

Buer · 22-04-2014 11:31am

Jacovs wrote: »

By the end of the Super Rugby season there will be 49 Springboks playing overseas and 48 in SA.
Grim.

Grim but massively impressive that they can have so many internationals playing elsewhere and still be such a force.

Swiwi. · 25-04-2014 7:03am

Might as well bump ye good ol' SXV thread.

Lovely wide pass from Nonunununu puts the Blues winger across, and an 8-0 lead.

ScissorPaperRock · 25-04-2014 8:09am

Tahs playing some nice rugby. Some luck going their way too though.

sydthebeat · 25-04-2014 8:12am

I think that penalty has put it beyond the tahs at this stage, 7 mind left 8 points down

ScissorPaperRock · 25-04-2014 8:12am

Cooper having a great game.

Handling errors letting them down though.

sydthebeat · 25-04-2014 8:32am

Looking forward to this one!

Probably shout for the brumbies

sydthebeat · 25-04-2014 9:48am

This is a great try of he gives it.
Looks forward though

sydthebeat · 25-04-2014 9:49am

Wow try stands

Kiwi_knock · 25-04-2014 9:52am

Both tries looked like forward passes to me, this whole position of the hands is far too confusing for everyone involved.

sydthebeat · 25-04-2014 9:59am

The side line angle showed a clear forward pass, how they didn't call it is beyond me.

The first try never went to tmo so Walsh himself was happy with it, but yeah did seem to go slightly forward.

DDC1990 · 25-04-2014 10:00am

That few minutes is why I love watching Super Rugby.

End to end stuff. Some great attacking and some great defending as well.

Deserved yellow card, would have been a try otherwise. I'm sure he's glad he tripped him as well.

sydthebeat · 25-04-2014 10:03am

Brumbies try

Chiefs short defending is absolute crap today

DDC1990 · 25-04-2014 10:04am

Munster would be proud of that maul :P

Kiwi_knock · 25-04-2014 10:07am

Bonus point try, Brumbies looking great.

sydthebeat · 25-04-2014 10:07am

And bonus point try after 60 mins. ....

Chiefs just want the final whistle at this stage, it's already embarrassing.

Swiwi. · 25-04-2014 11:42am

sydthebeat wrote: »

And bonus point try after 60 mins. ....

Chiefs just want the final whistle at this stage, it's already embarrassing.

Crusaders top of NZ conference, here we come! Or so I hope. Bye this week so not going anywhere but after a terrible start to the season there has been progress.

sydthebeat · 25-04-2014 11:49am

Anscombe isn't exactly looking like the great welsh hope lately.

Maybe gatland should look closer to home.

hahashake · 25-04-2014 11:50am

Well that was embarrassing. Probably our worst game in 3 years. Our reputation of being able to rotate the team and cope with injuries is being eroded. Cruden being the biggest loss but there is an extensive list of missing players. Our midfield was woeful (sorry Connacht) and Anscombe won't be missed from an AB perspective if he heads off to Wales. Still a decent 15 though.

Can see a Sharks v Brumbies final, with home advantage being a huge factor. This year has a lot of parity, mid table and lower teams can knock off top teams with home advantage and/or a little bit of luck.

Swiwi. · 25-04-2014 12:15pm

sydthebeat wrote: »

Anscombe isn't exactly looking like the great welsh hope lately.

Maybe gatland should look closer to home.

He's a 15 IMO. Not an international 10, unless he chooses Scotland or the like

sydthebeat · 25-04-2014 12:16pm

Sharks / brumbies next week no?
Will be a cracker I hope

CIARAN_BOYLE · 25-04-2014 12:17pm

Swiwi. wrote: »

He's a 15 IMO. Not an international 10, unless he chooses Scotland or the like

replacing James Hook in the 22 shirt is as far as his international career will go imo.

hahashake · 25-04-2014 12:50pm

If there is a positive from tonight it's that Jerome is most certainly back in business.

Swiwi. · 25-04-2014 2:56pm

hahashake wrote: »

If there is a positive from tonight it's that Jerome is most certainly back in business.

Jerome or Liam?

For me it's Jerome every time, he really is class. But I'd have Liam next in line, which means Luatua could be sweating his spot.

hahashake · 25-04-2014 3:29pm

Swiwi. wrote: »

Jerome or Liam?

For me it's Jerome every time, he really is class. But I'd have Liam next in line, which means Luatua could be sweating his spot.

Jerome, although Liam has been immense for the last few years. I'd imagine Jerome will get a start v England and assuming he plays well will hold his position with Liam on the bench. Luatua hasn't improved this year so probably won't make the 23 but is a lineout option so he still has that going for him.

matthew8 · 25-04-2014 6:54pm

Sharks have looked pathetic in this half. Defense utterly ineffective.

Swiwi. · 25-04-2014 7:02pm

matthew8 wrote: »

Sharks have looked pathetic in this half. Defense utterly ineffective.

And shìt. I forgot about this game. Come on the men in blue!

hahashake · 25-04-2014 7:09pm

Damn that's impressive. Table leaders at home and they are being outplayed by the 9th placed team. Now that's parity.

matthew8 · 25-04-2014 7:16pm

Tim Swiel is such an unimpressive kicker. He seems to snatch at every kick. Steyn must not have brought his kicking boots, on form he's a much better kicker.

Swiwi. · 25-04-2014 7:23pm

Three tries to zip, and the Sharks are closing in. Jake White has an effective but utterly boring coaching style. And yes I sat in Stade de France in 2007

matthew8 · 25-04-2014 7:25pm

Just as they were closing in a horror show under the high ball and they concede a 5 metre scrum. Doing very well if they can keep them out here.

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