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Man gives little scrote a smack of a hurl and gets 4 year sentence?

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  • #152
    8-10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    B.A._Baracus wrote: »
    That's life.

    Also some shi*e talk with comments in this thread.
    Ah poor boy? **** him. Sure truth be told your man with the Hurley is probably a scumbag himself. **** them both.

    Nobody's saying poor boy are they?


  • #153
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,140 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Lefty Bicek wrote: »
    Because it is irrelevant.

    as a whole it's not irrelevant though.
    it shows the individual is a threat to society and that he has to be removed to protect society from him.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words.



  • #154
    scamalert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭scamalert


    end of the road wrote: »
    as a whole it's not irrelevant though.
    it shows the individual is a threat to society and that he has to be removed to protect society from him.
    more like actual threat to actual scumbags, which is way more then the law or guards can do these days.


  • #155
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,140 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    scamalert wrote: »
    more like actual threat to actual scumbags, which is way more then the law or guards can do these days.

    he also apparently has a previous conviction for violent behaviour. so yes i would say threat to society as a whole rather then just scumbags.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words.



  • #156
    B.A._Baracus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    8-10 wrote: »
    Nobody's saying poor boy are they?

    Read the first few pages. There was those who were taking the boys side.

    Also "poor xxx" is an expression. Thanks for taking it literal. Bet you're one of the cool kids aren't ya

    *Edit*
    I've just seen the amount of times you've posted in this thread. You've got some hard on for this topic.


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  • #157
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    mistersifter wrote: »
    It is remotely similar.

    Man hears lads damaging his car.
    Man goes out with bat and whacks one.

    OK, if you insist then. Remotely similar, and in an extremely superficial way.

    Not worth your while posting about it in the first place, one way or another.


  • #158
    jmreire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,580 ✭✭✭jmreire


    end of the road wrote: »
    he also apparently has a previous conviction for violent behaviour. so yes i would say threat to society as a whole rather then just scumbags.

    Thats interesting, no mention of it in the newspaper ( that I read anyway) Do you have any detail's? Was it something similar, or an unprovoked attack?


  • #159
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    end of the road wrote: »
    as a whole it's not irrelevant though.
    it shows the individual is a threat to society and that he has to be removed to protect society from him.

    The other poster was crying that we were not making enough of the fact that the convicted man had some other conviction from years ago.

    That other conviction IS irrelevant in the context that this time, this little dirtbag got what he deserved.

    If you want to make a case that Curtis should be off the streets himself, fine. The other poster was not doing so.


  • #160
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    jmreire wrote: »
    Thats interesting, no mention of it in the newspaper ( that I read anyway) Do you have any detail's? Was it something similar, or an unprovoked attack?

    It does my head in that people can't read the thread, but just dive in at the end :D

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111488819&postcount=83


  • #161
    Bobblehats
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Ah, yeah he’s trash

    and probably a little unhinged but then he looks like such a mild mannered fellow... just goes to show you never can tell.


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  • #162
    Ush1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    8-10 wrote: »
    That doesn't mean the assault was justified. Had he died he wouldn't damage the car again, would that have been worth it?

    It would have been effective though.


  • #163
    jmreire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,580 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Lefty Bicek wrote: »
    It does my head in that people can't read the thread, but just dive in at the end :D

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111488819&postcount=83

    My word, so it doe's..... missed that paragraph ( time for specsaver's :) ) but calm down...don't allow it to damage your head, it's not that important. :D ( the thread I mean, not your head.... :) )
    Even so, assume that the injured lad never went to that area that day, or if he did go, but did not cause any trouble, would there have been a different outcome, for both of them? Sure there would. Those guys went looking for trouble that day ( and most likely, it was not their first time either) and they found it. Sorry if I seem a little bit unsympathetic to the injured party, but I feel that he contributed to the situation in a big way.


  • #164
    The_Brood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    Are we supposed to just lie there on the ground being assaulted and do nothing about it? Ah sure the gardai will sort it out, much good calling them will do!

    The judges and this legal system that is completely on the side of criminals and druggies is a spit in the face of every honest hard working person living in Ireland. Is it a "human rights" thing? Ah sure let's not be too hard on the violent feral nutjobs, let's not infringe on their human rights!

    A country that not only abandons its citizens but punishes them for standing up and protecting themselves is a complete and utter disgrace.


  • #165
    [Deleted User]
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    The_Brood wrote: »
    Are we supposed to just lie there on the ground being assaulted and do nothing about it? Ah sure the gardai will sort it out, much good calling them will do!
    No, you're entitled to defend yourself, you're even entitled to strike the first blow, as they say. But you're not entitled to chase someone, hit them on the back of the head so severely you break their skull and give them brain damage.


  • #166
    mistersifter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,185 ✭✭✭mistersifter


    Lefty Bicek wrote: »
    OK, if you insist then. Remotely similar, and in an extremely superficial way.

    Not worth your while posting about it in the first place, one way or another.

    I do insist. It was an incident involving scum bags who were causing trouble outside a fella's house and damaging his property. It had happened a few times before it came to blows. Man loses the rag and hits a young fella in the head with a bat.

    It's a relevant contribution to the thread as it shows what can happen to someone who thinks they are defending their property and takes things too far.

    So stop being contrary little sh*te yourself. And dont tell me what's worth my while and what's not. Good lad.


  • #167
    newcavanman
    Registered Users Posts: 822 ✭✭✭newcavanman


    milehip wrote: »
    A smack that resulted in a fractured skull tho?
    good enough for him. these gangs of young lads and girls, think they are immune to the law. I deliver to shops, some in quite roughareas, and the grief and abuse they have to put up with is unbelieveable. Particularly asian shopkeepers get dogs abuse, and a lot of the time the Gardai either dont respond or when they do, say the kids are too young


  • #168
    8-10
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    newcavanman wrote: »
    good enough for him. these gangs of young lads and girls, think they are immune to the law

    Sounds like you think this guy should have been immune to the law too.

    Luckily for the rest of us he got put behind bars where he belongs


  • #169
    The_Brood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    No, you're entitled to defend yourself, you're even entitled to strike the first blow, as they say. But you're not entitled to chase someone, hit them on the back of the head so severely you break their skull and give them brain damage.


    Have you ever been attacked by these gangs? You think they just wait in turn patiently like a movie to make a move on you one by one? They attack you as a pack, and unless you have a very immediate and decisive way to fight back, you're at their mercy - if you just strike back normally, one of them flips out a knife and that's that. You pretty much just have to let them kick you to the ground.


  • #170
    Claw Hammer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,289 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    He's a kid, dude. He was 16 years of age at the time, 21 now. His brain hasn't finished developing, and in certain respects it probably won't develop. He's suffered a brain injury because someone flew into a rage, without any defence of self-defence. If you think that's acceptable, fair enough; I think most reasonable people would be distraught to know they'd caused that kind of damage to someone. I'm sure both parties feel pretty distraught and regretful; nobody has won anything.

    At least he might not intentionally damage cars again. Ireland sent soldiers younger than him to the Congo in the 1960's. One has never been found since. Others were taken prisoner of war. that 16 year old knew well what he was doing and knew it was wrong but did it anyway because he was been taught to think he could get away with it.


  • #171
    [Deleted User]
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    Claw Hammer wrote: »
    At least he might not intentionally damage cars again. Ireland sent soldiers younger than him to the Congo in the 1960's. One has never been found since. Others were taken prisoner of war. that 16 year old knew well what he was doing and knew it was wrong but did it anyway because he was been taught to think he could get away with it.
    ah Jaysis.

    The Congo? What are you talking about? It's 2019 and not damaging cars again is no consolation for brain damage, and what are bringing up the Congo for?


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  • #172
    joeguevara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,099 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Claw Hammer wrote: »
    At least he might not intentionally damage cars again. Ireland sent soldiers younger than him to the Congo in the 1960's. One has never been found since. Others were taken prisoner of war. that 16 year old knew well what he was doing and knew it was wrong but did it anyway because he was been taught to think he could get away with it.

    So based on the fact that 16 year olds were sent to the congo in the 60s and one is missing a 16 year old deserves a cracked skull and permanent brain damage for damaging a car. What would a lesser offence like littering deserve? Broken fingers? Your one strike and capital punishment by a vigilante doctrine is something you would hear in Saudi Arabia

    He did wrong. He should be punished. But Jesus it should be proportionate. The actions of a 16 year old should not have reprucussions for the rest of his life. Do you think that he couldn't get on the right path or is a 16 year old who did wrong guaranteed to be a serial criminal and should be stopped immediately?


  • #173
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    mistersifter wrote: »
    I do insist. It was an incident involving scum bags who were causing trouble outside a fella's house and damaging his property. It had happened a few times before it came to blows. Man loses the rag and hits a young fella in the head with a bat.

    It's a relevant contribution to the thread as it shows what can happen to someone who thinks they are defending their property and takes things too far.

    So stop being contrary little sh*te yourself. And dont tell me what's worth my while and what's not. Good lad.

    One was murder, the other wasn't. A world of difference.

    You might as well bring up Benny Dunne's hit on Tommy Walsh in the 2009 All Ireland. At least there was a hurley involved there.

    Watch that temper, by the way.

    :D


  • #174
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,140 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    The_Brood wrote: »
    Are we supposed to just lie there on the ground being assaulted and do nothing about it? Ah sure the gardai will sort it out, much good calling them will do!

    The judges and this legal system that is completely on the side of criminals and druggies is a spit in the face of every honest hard working person living in Ireland. Is it a "human rights" thing? Ah sure let's not be too hard on the violent feral nutjobs, let's not infringe on their human rights!

    A country that not only abandons its citizens but punishes them for standing up and protecting themselves is a complete and utter disgrace.

    one does not get punished for standing up and protecting themselves in ireland, it just doesn't happen.
    they get punished for breaking the law and engaging in thug behaviour, as is quite right.
    Claw Hammer wrote: »
    At least he might not intentionally damage cars again. Ireland sent soldiers younger than him to the Congo in the 1960's. One has never been found since. Others were taken prisoner of war. that 16 year old knew well what he was doing and knew it was wrong but did it anyway because he was been taught to think he could get away with it.


    none of this is relevant to the fact the victim was a minor.
    in ireland one is still a child until they are 18 by law. whether others think being a child ends earlier matters not, the law takes precedents.
    ireland or any country sending child soldiers out to a conflict zone was just as wrong in the 60s as it is quite rightly recognized to be now. it is a breach of international law to use child soldiers in this day and age quite rightly.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words.



  • #175
    iwillhtfu
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    It's interesting to see how many people are commenting on how he brain damaged the young lad. I'd be fairly sure his intention wasn't to inflict such severe damage yet I'd be sure the young lad tried to take his head off with the plank and you can be sure had he connected it would be all over snapchat and he'd be standing triumphantly over his victim. No excuse for chasing after him and attacking the young lad but I'd be curious if the judge took into consideration any previous events/issues when handing down the sentence. This gang could've been making the mans life a nightmare for months/years.


  • #176
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,386 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    iwillhtfu wrote: »
    It's interesting to see how many people are commenting on how he brain damaged the young lad. I'd be fairly sure his intention wasn't to inflict such severe damage yet the I'd be sure the young lad tried to take his head off with the plank and you can be sure had he connected it would be all over snapchat and he'd be standing triumphantly over his victim. No excuse for chasing after him and attacking the young lad but I'd be curious if the judge took into consideration any previous events/issues when handing down the sentence. This gang could've been making the mans life a nightmare for months/years.

    He was visiting his mother. And there is no mention of them being a gang in the report. If any of them knew of what he is capable of doing with a knife, I doubt they would have picked on him to annoy.


  • #177
    mistersifter
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    Lefty Bicek wrote: »
    One was murder, the other wasn't. A world of difference.

    You might as well bring up Benny Dunne's hit on Tommy Walsh in the 2009 All Ireland. At least there was a hurley involved there.

    Watch that temper, by the way.

    :D

    Correct, one ended in death and the other almost did. Yet they were very similar altercations; young scrotes intimidating people in their homes only to be confronted by someone willing to play their game (did that happen in the All Ireland match? I didnt catch that one).

    The point being that when you physically confront this type of scumbag it can very easily end in the worst way. So the best option is to call the Gardai, wait a couple of days for them to show up and hope that your gaff doesnt get burned down in the mean time.

    A sad state of affairs.

    On another note, in the case I was talking about the mates of the young fella who was killed were later caught robbing property from the Garda station while giving statements. Just an insight into the mindset of those young fellas.


  • #178
    FixitFelix
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    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    ah Jaysis.

    The Congo? What are you talking about? It's 2019 and not damaging cars again is no consolation for brain damage, and what are bringing up the Congo for?

    In fairness most of these gangs of absolute scumbags I see damaging cars and smashing windows nearly every day don't use their brains to benefit society so a smack of a hurl is the way to go. Garda don't do anything, drive into an estate do a u turn a drive out and the scum continue doing what they want.


  • #179
    BeerWolf
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    I really don't care for feral ****s running amok. Blame their ****ty parents and enabling laws to protect them and their behavior, not the person retaliating against these scum. But I won't cry for them, not even if they were killed as a result of their violent delinquency acts. Could do with less of them anyways...


  • #180
    Lefty Bicek
    Registered Users Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Lefty Bicek


    mistersifter wrote: »
    Correct, one ended in death and the other almost did. Yet they were very similar altercations; young scrotes intimidating people in their homes only to be confronted by someone willing to play their game (did that happen in the All Ireland match? I didnt catch that one).

    The point being that when you physically confront this type of scumbag it can very easily end in the worst way. So the best option is to call the Gardai, wait a couple of days for them to show up and hope that your gaff doesnt get burned down in the mean time.

    A sad state of affairs.

    On another note, in the case I was talking about the mates of the young fella who was killed were later caught robbing property from the Garda station while giving statements. Just an insight into the mindset of those young fellas.

    I understand all that, but I don't think the picture you paint re waiting for the Guards and hoping in the meantime, is acceptable.

    I don't blame them for that, but it is just not good enough and many unpalatable consequences flow from it. This being one case.


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  • #181
    Alfonso Nutritious Pocketful
    Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Alfonso Nutritious Pocketful


    Absolutely zero sympathy from me for the young fella.

    The aulder fella got what he deserved.

    Cant see much wrong with this case.


  • #182
    mistersifter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,185 ✭✭✭mistersifter


    Lefty Bicek wrote: »
    I understand all that, but I don't think the picture you paint re waiting for the Guards and hoping in the meantime, is acceptable.

    I don't blame them for that, but it is just not good enough and many unpalatable consequences flow from it. This being one case.

    Correct again. That was my point also. It's a bloody sad state of affairs that the two choices you have when unlucky enough to be singled out by this type of vermin is

    1. fight them and risk someone getting seriously injured or killed.

    2. rely on police and a legal system that arent very reliable in these instances.

    It's also just plain sad that these little kn*ckers seem to be everywhere and there's really not much you can do if they decide to target you.


  • #183
    Bobblehats
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    Let’s cut to the chase here I think the lesson learned is you don’t so much as tap on the car of a guy whom is quite evidently tapped already himself because there may likely be no tapping out of that situation. Now let him pick up the pieces of his fragmented skull whilst the other guy picks up the soap


  • #184
    Castlekeeper
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    Mr. Curtis erred in not having a sliothar I his hand and throwing it in the air as he pulled, once the ball was there it was a yellow at worst.
    His defence erred in not bringing up the possibility that his opponent might have been falling or maybe dipped into the challenge, it may have been an innocent mid height challenge that just went wrong.
    They all have plenty of time for reflection now anyway.


  • #185
    jmreire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,580 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Bobblehats wrote: »
    Let’s cut to the chase here I think the lesson learned is you don’t so much as tap on the car of a guy whom is quite evidently tapped already himself because there may likely be no tapping out of that situation. Now let him pick up the pieces of his fragmented skull whilst the other guy picks up the soap

    One possible positive outcome of this whole sorry business is that the scumbags will give the place a wide berth from now on..


  • #186
    Rezident
    Registered Users Posts: 1,804 ✭✭✭Rezident


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    Running out of a house swinging a Hurley is not the way to handle a situation like that


    Yes it is. Only language they understand.


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  • #187
    Heckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭Heckler


    There's a reason films like Death Wish, Law Abiding Citizen, Death Sentence, Harry Brown and any other myriad of revenge films are so popular. Fantasy.

    People are sick and tired of scumbags having the run of everything with no help from the police or judiciary so when some vigilante takes the law unto themselves they are lauded.

    Truth is that most behind a keyboard saying "I'd do the time if that was my daughter/mother/etc" wouldn't. Thats why we don't have murderers, rapists, child molesters etc being killed on courthouse steps.

    Even if there was no sanction for such an action very few would go through it. Taking a life is a life long burden even if they may deserve it.

    As for the fella with the hurl. He should have aimed lower. Broke the leg. If I was on that jury he'd be home free.


  • #188
    1874
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    Grandeeod wrote: »
    Judges in Ireland live in a different world to most of us, hence the revolving door legal system when it comes to trash bags. It's not a recent thing either.


    Since when? when did they realise this and start playing this game

    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    Where does the self-defence arise? The young-lad missed. Grand, be angry, lose the rag. But don't fracture his skull. That's not self defence, that's just revenge. And tbh it's fairly brutal.


    He missed, well thats all well and good saying it now, how would you feel about being surrounded by a gang of scumbags, thats a lot of potential for them to get into a frenzy and kill him, could get stabbed or kicked to death.
    Thats the problem, if someone is damaging your property, do you just take it and they will probably come back again and again, go out, annoyed and do nothing, well if youre angry enough and someone takes a swing at you, relying on them missing isnt grounds to defend the scum and attack the chap.
    Its unlikely he went out with the intention of caving his head in, scummer got what he deserved, death was too good for him, hopefully he is drooling witless right now and a burden to his family, see will he have 20 scummer mates hanging about too long. On the basis that the Gardai no matter how pissed at the system themselves, the judiciary which have abandoned decent people in favour of paying themselves out of our pockets, these people deserve nothing less than either get locked up or be taken on by vigilantes and have their legs broken.

    JupiterKid wrote: »
    The criminal justice system in this country is clearly very dysfunctional. You hear of people with 100, 200+ convictions, often ones for serious assault and criminal damage, serving suspended or extremely light sentences and in and out like a revolving door.

    It is clearly not working. I am a firm believer in rehabilitative justice but I can completely understand how people get frustrated when they see their property vandalised and stolen, their families and elderly relatives intimidated, their livelihoods under threat and decide to take the law into their own hands.

    When my own car was broken into, hot wired, stolen from my place in 2010 and was found burnt out in Cherry Orchard I was very upset and angry and although I reported the crime and the Gardai were very helpful no-one was arrested and charged and I was told that in the extremely unlikely event that anyone was caught for the theft it would probably not result in a custodial sentence.

    My late father and I used to argue over the justice system years back when he would point out that low life who had zero respect for law and order and the rights of others deserved to be marked for life as harsh measures in terms of retaliation and justice was the only language they understood and I would counter by arguing that a more constructive approach was better but I have increasingly come around to his reasoning as I believe there is just really no incentive for these scumbags - and yes, they are scumbags - to change their ways unless they are punished and that punishment meted out acts as a deterrent.

    The judges who give out very lenient sentences for such crimes appear to be completely out of touch with the mood of the general public on this matter and it seems to me that it is very easy for people to take the moral high ground on criminality until they themselves or their family and loved ones are the targets of this criminal behavior.

    But in their gated communities they very very rarely are.


    Im a bit confused, you thanked the last post of the first page, post 15, I saw your username in there as there were not that many thanks and having seen the article, I decided to search for any comment on the article.

    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    Quite the opposite. How many confrontational interactions would you say there are in Ireland every week -- take into account all of the drunken brawls that happen in cities and towns and villages and homesteads all across the country?

    Would there be 3,000? 10,000 per week? I guess it depends on how you define 'confrontational'.

    How many of those do you think end in a stabbing?

    As it happens, we have the answer. Three. On average, three people in a land of about 4 million people are admitted to hospital every week with wounds inflicted by a knife

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/stabbings-seem-to-decline-despite-rise-in-knife-seizures-1.3920054

    As the article says, that info is to be treated cautiously, but knife crime appears to be decreasing, according both to Gardaí and the HSE. This isn't London, where knife crime seems to be genuinely epidemic.

    I don't understand why sometimes people insist that the world is such a dark and hostile place. I don't understand how these people ever manage to leave the house, or maybe they don't. The world is full of showers and streams, flowers and trees, beasts of the sky and of the land, creeping things, wide seas, fat hills, sunshine, starlight, small children, normal people, and - probably, most likely - nobody is going to stab you.




    I would not rely on the stats provided by the organisations you mentioned, they clearly have no interest in fixing problems and very much have an interest in pushing the numbers down, ever tried to report a crime to the Gardai, id say the numbers of crimes reported, that actually get reported and taken down are a fraction of those that actually occur.

    Viscount Aggro wrote: »
    I had an experience with similar youths years ago. I was in my 30's.
    They picked on me, because I looked weak.
    Went on for years. The only thing they understand is having their head taken off their shoulders.
    Until one day, I randomly got a broken eye socket, waiting at the bus stop.
    Listen, the Gardai are useless. They said I must have provoked them. I got no justice.
    I rate Gardai on a par with refuse collectors.


    I think that is very unfair, refuse collectors, do their job and cant really make excuses.


  • #189
    Infini
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    votecounts wrote: »
    You can't go round hitting children regardless what they do. He should have known better

    It's all well calling them "children" until they're in a group and they get brave. We know what these little ferals are capable of when they get like that. The only thing is he hit the fecker in the head which isn't the kind of damage you want to do it goes go too far on that part unless of course there was the threat to ones life, however the little bollocks would have deserved a broken arm or leg for it might've been a better way to get the point across.

    Truthfully there's a serious imbalance in the justice system in this country as the ferals, scrotes and lowlifes tend to get rewarded far more than they should be, there needs to be a better balancing of things so those who are the instigators and cause this are properly punished not the normal law abiding types who far too often are getting left short by the system.


  • #190
    Rodin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Rodin


    Judge suggested he try talking to them and call the guards if that didn't work

    Lol........


  • #191
    Infini
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭Infini


    Rodin wrote: »
    Judge suggested he try talking to them and call the guards if that didn't work

    Lol........

    Yeah, these feckers dont respond to "talking" they only back down under the threat of a proper asswhooping.


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  • #192
    shamrock55
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,210 ✭✭✭shamrock55


    Sorry to say he deserves that sentence, to strike someone in the head with a hurl your asking for ttouble


  • #193
    scamalert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭scamalert


    Infini wrote: »
    It's all well calling them "children" until they're in a group and they get brave. We know what these little ferals are capable of when they get like that. The only thing is he hit the fecker in the head which isn't the kind of damage you want to do it goes go too far on that part unless of course there was the threat to ones life, however the little bollocks would have deserved a broken arm or leg for it might've been a better way to get the point across.

    Truthfully there's a serious imbalance in the justice system in this country as the ferals, scrotes and lowlifes tend to get rewarded far more than they should be, there needs to be a better balancing of things so those who are the instigators and cause this are properly punished not the normal law abiding types who far too often are getting left short by the system.
    exactly this, people who never been in such situations dont get it, theres no chit chat or debate talk, one has to prove a point and only way is by injury or force when it comes to scum.


    Blow to the head would been to much but imagine tough gang act dropped fast. and would bet he didnt think or went easy either, but that **** only comes back once its done and over, as adrenaline rush blanks people out easily from any rational decisions, where to hit.


    Since scum are used to people taking it but once they get to see reality they become minors and kids :cool: , sad part is, if it was weaker person news header would be some x person stomped near to death and few suspended penalties at best, then everyone would be macho and angry why society is full of scum and nothing is being done.


  • #194
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,140 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    scamalert wrote: »
    exactly this, people who never been in such situations dont get it, theres no chit chat or debate talk, one has to prove a point and only way is by injury or force when it comes to scum.


    Blow to the head would been to much but imagine tough gang act dropped fast. and would bet he didnt think or went easy either, but that **** only comes back once its done and over, as adrenaline rush blanks people out easily from any rational decisions, where to hit.


    Since scum are used to people taking it but once they get to see reality they become minors and kids :cool: , sad part is, if it was weaker person news header would be some x person stomped near to death and few suspended penalties at best, then everyone would be macho and angry why society is full of scum and nothing is being done.


    they don't "become" minors or kids, they are minors and kids, by law, until they are the age of 18.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words.



  • #195
    Franz Von Peppercorn II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    end of the road wrote: »
    they don't "become" minors or kids, they are minors and kids, by law, until they are the age of 18.

    What’s your feeling on what should have happened here. Remember that 20 feral youths were intimidating an old couple.


  • #196
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,355 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I'd have made sure he couldn't tell the story of it anyhow.


  • #197
    Optimalprimerib
    Registered Users Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭Optimalprimerib


    Instead of putting the guy in prison, his punishment should be to move to my estate and do community service as a hurling coach. Reduced sentence for good behaviour (knocking scrotes of scramblers, knocking out door kickers etc).


  • #198
    spurious
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    end of the road wrote:
    he also apparently has a previous conviction for violent behaviour. so yes i would say threat to society as a whole rather then just scumbags.


    I bet the little ****s didnt know that when they were picking his elderly parents' house to hassle.

    I'm getting the impression some posters know what it is like to deal with these feral gangs and others don't.


  • #199
    mcgucc22
    Registered Users Posts: 255 ✭✭mcgucc22


    I've always called it a hurley. In what part of the country do people call it a hurl?


  • #200
    FishOnABike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,548 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    mcgucc22 wrote: »
    I've always called it a hurley. In what part of the country do people call it a hurl?
    Same where I grew up. 'Hurl' is what I'd associate with a dose of gastroenteritis.


  • #201
    Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    Definitely only ever heard it called a hurley in Cork. Might use the word hurl as a verb, like that was a good hurl down the pitch. But the stick is called a hurley.


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