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  • 12-10-2013 6:02am
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    somuj
    Registered Users Posts: 867 ✭✭✭


    Where is his mind, how does he hear? How does he even see? His eye balls are only frabricated goo balls. Does his whole body sense the EMF!


    Also, I love Enterprise and Janeway.


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    PirateShampoo
    Registered Users Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    "When you return to The Link, what will become of the entity I'm talking to right now?"
    "The drop becomes the ocean."
    "And if you choose to take solid form again?"
    "The ocean becomes a drop."


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    somuj
    Registered Users Posts: 867 ✭✭✭somuj


    Still waiting for an answer . . .


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    PirateShampoo
    Registered Users Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    somuj wrote: »
    Still waiting for an answer . . .

    I gave it to you four bloody years ago.


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    Indricotherium
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Indricotherium


    PirateShampoo wrote: »
    I gave it to you four bloody years ago.

    A bowl of jelly will pick up sound vibrations.


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    ScumLord
    Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    How does a 70kg man turn into a 1 kg bird? Is he hollow when he's a large animal?


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    Indricotherium
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Indricotherium


    ScumLord wrote: »
    How does a 70kg man turn into a 1 kg bird? Is he hollow when he's a large animal?

    Narrative convenience.


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    IvySlayer
    Registered Users Posts: 17,187 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    How can the sensors not detect a changeling is a changeling?

    How can they imitate people so easily, do they perfectly get all the organs and blood cells correct?

    Can a Betazoid detect a changeling?


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    Westernyelp
    Registered Users Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    How can the sensors not detect a changeling is a changeling?

    How can they imitate people so easily, do they perfectly get all the organs and blood cells correct?

    Can a Betazoid detect a changeling?
    They can't even do a face


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    Evade
    Registered Users Posts: 6,734 ✭✭✭Evade


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    How can they imitate people so easily, do they perfectly get all the organs and blood cells correct?
    They seem to at least attempt to do this. When the blood screenings came in samples taken from changelings appeared to be blood before changing back to brown goo.
    Westernyelp wrote: »
    They can't even do a face
    It's just Odo that can't.


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    Westernyelp
    Registered Users Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Evade wrote: »
    They seem to at least attempt to do this. When the blood screenings came in samples taken from changelings appeared to be blood before changing back to brown goo.

    It's just Odo that can't.
    nah, the head lady looked just like Odo. even though she could do all sorts


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    Evade
    Registered Users Posts: 6,734 ✭✭✭Evade


    Westernyelp wrote: »
    nah, the head lady looked just like Odo. even though she could do all sorts
    Yeah, Odo can't others choose not to so they stand out as Changelings. The female Changeling visually fooled Odo when she impersonated Kira.

    EDIT: Oh, and the one that was impersonating Bashir for months had Bashir's face.


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    Westernyelp
    Registered Users Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Evade wrote: »
    Yeah, Odo can't others choose not to so they stand out as Changelings. The female Changeling visually fooled Odo when she impersonated Kira.
    That is true


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    ScumLord
    Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    How can the sensors not detect a changeling is a changeling?
    The whole life signs sensor doesn't make a whole lot of sense really. What signs of life are they picking up? Heart beats? Carbon dioxide? The sound of food moving through the gut? How are they supposed to pick up noises happening on the other side of a vacuum.


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    Evade
    Registered Users Posts: 6,734 ✭✭✭Evade


    ScumLord wrote: »
    The whole life signs sensor doesn't make a whole lot of sense really. What signs of life are they picking up? Heart beats? Carbon dioxide? The sound of food moving through the gut? How are they supposed to pick up noises happening on the other side of a vacuum.
    Lifesigns seems like a very broad term in Star Trek. On a planetary scale it might be as simple as detection of biologically produced compounds like methane or for more advanced civilisations evidence of non-natural occurrences like buildings, nuclear fission on the surface, etc. In the case of detecting individuals they probably detect the electromagnetic field generated by living things. But in medical situations it's probably heartbeat*, respiration*, etc.



    *for those species that have them.


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    goose2005
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    ScumLord wrote: »
    How does a 70kg man turn into a 1 kg bird? Is he hollow when he's a large animal?

    changelings are not composed of ordinary matter, they can change their mass.


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    Westernyelp
    Registered Users Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    goose2005 wrote:
    changelings are not composed of ordinary matter, they can change their mass.


    You can't change mass. You can gain it is lose it. Where does it go in the meantime?


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    Indricotherium
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Indricotherium


    Westernyelp wrote: »
    You can't change mass. You can gain it is lose it. Where does it go in the meantime?

    To narrative convenience.


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    IvySlayer
    Registered Users Posts: 17,187 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    Do changelings outrank each other?

    In the last few battles how many changelings were actually on Cardassia? With the Female Changeling dying what exactly was stopping Odo from ordering the Jem'Hadar to stand down?

    He did use some of his power on DS9 to cause friction between Dukat/Weyoun. He turned into the Female Changeling once over the course of the war, and that was it!


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    IvySlayer
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    Why didn't they just tag/inject a sensor on every Starfleet officer considering Changelings have to revert to their goo state every 16 hours and the sensors could warn them?


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    Evade
    Registered Users Posts: 6,734 ✭✭✭Evade


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    Why didn't they just tag/inject a sensor on every Starfleet officer considering Changelings have to revert to their goo state every 16 hours and the sensors could warn them?
    I think that's only Odo, or at least only relatively young Changelings.


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    Indricotherium
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Indricotherium


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    Why didn't they just tag/inject a sensor on every Starfleet officer considering Changelings have to revert to their goo state every 16 hours and the sensors could warn them?

    Some boards.lcars warrior would be straight on to the data protection commissioner.

    Also, it seems like wasted effort when you are wiping them out with a bio-wmd.


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    Inviere
    Registered Users Posts: 7,501 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Indricotherium wrote: »
    Also, it seems like wasted effort when you are wiping them out with a bio-wmd.

    Indeed, the cheek of them refusing to negotiate and being hell bent on the destruction of the Federation.

    Retro Computers/Consoles Repair/Restoration List



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    Indricotherium
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    Evade wrote: »
    I think that's only Odo, or at least only relatively young Changelings.

    I think there is only one changeling and it splits off small parts which are reabsorbed later.


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    Evade
    Registered Users Posts: 6,734 ✭✭✭Evade


    Indricotherium wrote: »
    I think there is only one changeling and it splits off small parts which are reabsorbed later.
    There is the "drop becomes the ocean and the ocean becomes the drop" thing but Odo, and the rest of the Hundred, were referred to as being children or infants. So either they're young lifeforms or are a part of an old lifeform with all skills, experience, and memory erased which is functionally the same thing. If all changelings were measured by Odo's abilities they wouldn't be able to infiltrate anything.


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    brainfreeze
    Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭brainfreeze


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    Why didn't they just tag/inject a sensor on every Starfleet officer considering Changelings have to revert to their goo state every 16 hours and the sensors could warn them?

    That's would be only an Odo detector. Odo is the only one that has to regenerate every 16 hours because he has not matured yet. Regardless of looking like an old man and his personality, Odo is just a kid.
    IvySlayer wrote: »
    How can the sensors not detect a changeling is a changeling?

    Star Fleet didn't have the technology. The Caradasians did though, the Obsidian Order
    have sensors that detect changelings.
    IvySlayer wrote: »
    Can a Betazoid detect a changeling?

    Betazoids can not read changeling minds. With that information one could raise the alarm at the possibility of someone being a changeling due to not being able to read their mind. But they wouldn't know for sure, unless it was someone they had met, and read, before. Betazoids are rubbish anyway, default answer by them is always "I'm not sure". Cold readers have a better hit rate.


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    somuj
    Registered Users Posts: 867 ✭✭✭somuj


    ScumLord wrote: »
    The whole life signs sensor doesn't make a whole lot of sense really. What signs of life are they picking up? Heart beats? Carbon dioxide? The sound of food moving through the gut? How are they supposed to pick up noises happening on the other side of a vacuum.


    Amino acids, an interaction detection sensor. Every good household has one.


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    somuj
    Registered Users Posts: 867 ✭✭✭somuj


    Why did all the morph bitchs not come thru the annulus and change into a better day. Thor's ghost says aye


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    Stark
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    brainfreeze wrote: »
    That's would be only an Odo detector. Odo is the only one that has to regenerate every 16 hours because he has not matured yet. Regardless of looking like an old man and his personality, Odo is just a kid.

    Don't think it's mentioned anywhere in canon that other changelings don't need to regenerate.
    IvySlayer wrote: »
    How can the sensors not detect a changeling is a changeling?

    How can they imitate people so easily, do they perfectly get all the organs and blood cells correct?

    When they locked Odo in human form, they did so with all the internal organs he needed to function as a human. Bashir said when examining him that aside from his face, he was indistinguishable from a human. So they are that sophisticated in their shape shifting abilities.

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    somuj
    Registered Users Posts: 867 ✭✭✭somuj


    Odo detector.

    😆😆😂😂

    Sounds really funny 🀣🀣 lot of single malt tho.

    How does one build an odo d3ctor


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