The Official Cavan GAA Discussion thread.

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

this was our downfall in the games against westmeath, laois (first half ) and roscommon , also you must factor in the week 3 element we definitely had an advantage

we got a bit of a wake up call against laois last week our first half performance was terrible and had we lost today we were effectively relegated

i read here that we had our homework done , i know colm collins he is from the same parish as myself , he has copied and pasted an awful lot of the cavan module in recent years , he uses cavan and roscommon in references in team meetings regularly as ye are the only 2 teams making an impact on division 1 super 8 teams , also the style of football is nearly the same as what terry hyland used to play when cavan manager (the black death of Gaelic football according to joe brolly ) . he had his homework done as he has been keeping an eye on the progress ye have made since 2014 especially

the only way i can console ye lads is by asking ye to beat kildare in two weeks time in that astro sized pitch in newbridge , it keeps us safe for another week plus sends ye back on track in the promotion race .....you know it makes since;)

I don't think the 3 week element is as big a factor as some, including the We Are Cavan lads, are making it.

Clare looked to have taken the Black Death a step further than Cavan with your quick transition play. It's been a problem with this Cavan team for years now that we aren't direct enough and unfortunately that was the prevailing factor last weekend. Even when we needed scores at the end, there was no urgency and we meandered in the ball.

Armagh gave Fermanagh a good tonking in Brewster last night so it certainly throws doubts over our positioning with us making such hard work of them two weeks ago.

Armagh vs Roscommon will be interesting next week because they are the two form teams going into the final rounds.

Yeah, maybe in 2021 or thereabouts. Not going to be much ball this year. 6 counties on the same island still have pubs open, schools not closing until Monday. Peak of the virus in the UK expected to be June so...

In fairness I wouldn't be bothered abouts football. This is a crisis and sport will be there in the future,a lot of people won't be.

Good for you. Its a realistic view. It will come back but doubtful if this year.

Cavan_King wrote: »

Very negative. State exams are expected to occur in late July/August with two weeks of classes before. Therefore the government clearly believe things will be approaching normality by July.

Areas of China were getting back to normal after 3 months and they had none of the preparation we had.

Taking March out of it even, that leaves April, May and June.

Regardless, like I said, I’d prefer to focus on hope rather than negativity and going on your last two posts I certainly wouldn’t like to be in earshot of such negativity whilst in isolation.

It's very unlikely there will be football this year. Whatever about some restrictions been lifted social distancing and bans on large gatherings will be in place until either this virus burns out or there is a vaccine. It's all well and good been positive but in reality things are going to be difficult for a long time.

rrs wrote: »

You've got your head in the sand. You think football will go ahead because of exams?
They have to go ahead, or students will repeat a year.

It started in China in November but only made public in January, and they used strict draconian measure for lockdown. It was also kept in the Wuhan territory. Not across all of China

They mentioned a vaccine will take 12 months. They can't even be sure of how they'll lift restrictions before then
Europe is far worse then China

There are a number of inaccuracies in what you state above. The first death was recorded in China on 9th January yet you state it started in November? There is no proof the case in November was actually Covid-19, it may just have been.

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2020/01/china-reports-death-mysterious-outbreak-wuhan-200111023325546.html

The government are expecting to have two weeks of classes before any exams. Therefore their expectation is obviously that the curve will flatten before then.

Regarding football going ahead because of exams, I am using the school exams as a guideline because it was the day the schools closed that most realised how serious the situation was.

We may see games go ahead with reduced crowds or even behind closed doors but I do think we’ll see games of some nature this year.

Cavan_King wrote: »

There are a number of inaccuracies in what you state above. The first death was recorded in China on 9th January yet you state it started in November? There is no proof the case in November was actually Covid-19, it may just have been.

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2020/01/china-reports-death-mysterious-outbreak-wuhan-200111023325546.html


We may see games go ahead with reduced crowds or even behind closed doors but I do think we’ll see games of some nature this year.

That won't happen there will be no training or games until this is sorted.

And if things start going badly in the next month In Sweden, Ireland can follow the situation. They said a 2nd wave of the Virus can flare up, and any of those Countries slowly loosening estrictions will be back in full restriction mode again, if more cases appear.
Will be many complications for a long time

The government want to get students in for 2 weeks to give students a chance to familiarise themselves, with the classroom. And get the exams done somehow. As it will only add more cost for the Government if they don't go ahead. Not like will all be sitting close to each other. They'll have everything done to a distance.

Drivetime on RTE Radio 1 on Friday evening gave a inkling of what the future of public gathering and sporting events in Ireland could be like in 2020.

During an interview between presenter Mary Wilson and Cork based Dr Chris Luke, the issue of society returning to something approaching normal after the current lockdown due to Covid-19 was discussed

Wilson asked: “Would we still be in a situation where we wouldn't have any large gatherings, the GAA championships if you like?”

In response Dr Chris Luke answered: “I would be very, very surprised if we could return to that even within 12-months. I'm certainly thinking something with regards to September with regards to anything of an easing (of current restrictions on group gatherings).”

Dr Luke tempered his answer by saying “I'm not a public health scientist, I'm an emergency physician with an interest in public health. I don't want to speculate too much on that.

“This will not be a binary situation... there will not be a light switch, it will not be suddenly back to normal.”

You can listen to the interview here: https://www.rte.ie/radio/radioplayer/html5/#/radio1/11177753 (the segment in question is around the 16 minute mark).

Many sporting organisations are already planning a return to action, possibly behind closed doors. German Bundesliga teams have already returned to training in restricted situations.

However, in an article in Sports Illustrated it was argued by Zach Binney, a PhD in epidemiology that there will be no sports with spectators until a vaccine for Covid-19 is found.

He also advised that it would be nearly impossible to play sports behind closed doors in a manner which would guarantee that players were not at risk of infection.
https://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/310034

May they rest in peace.

Gallant_JJ wrote: »

OTB running a County by County Mount Rushmore, for anyone who has't heard it, and exercise in identifying each counties 4 best sports people.

Our two neighbours have featured:

Meath; Sean Boylan, Mick Lyons, Graham Geraghty, Johnny Murtagh
Monaghan: Tommy Bowe, Barry McGuigan, Brenda McAnespie and Nudie Hughes.

Anyone willing to take a stab at Cavan, for me:

Cathriona McKiernan - Absolutely world class, 4 world cross country silvers, fastest ever debut marathon, winner of the Dublin, London, Berlin and Amsterdam marathons. Top drawer

John Joe O'Reilly - Team of the Millenium, Twice All Ireland winning captain, 11 Ulster Titles, four railway cups and 9 senior club titles.

Paul Brady - 5 World handball championship titles, a plethora of other victories, 3 senior club titles, world class

4th place?

Charlie Gallagher
Mick Higgins
PJ Duke
Cillian Sheridan
Craig Lynch
Jim Smith

I'm sure there are others I've missed or done a disservice.

Leona Maguire
Leanne Kiernan
Andy Murray
Kiera Smith
Tom Brady

Paul the Gunner

No mention for McCabe or Ollie Brady? Cavans only All Stars.

rrs wrote: »

It's probaly that McCabe isn't as well liked. He was a very good footballer. Roy Keane is on the Cork Mountrushmore and he's a divisive figure. But was a top class player.

It's also more relative then the 40, 50s and 60s when not many saw that era. But some of the players like Charlie Gallagher and John Joe Reilly deserve to be mentioned.
I read the book on Charlie Gallagher and Cavan were strolling through Ulster for a good ,until the education system changed in the North and the northern teams became stronger. Down became a force in the 60d.

Cavan had 38 Ulster titles during that era of dominance, but 5 All Irelands which wasn't a high return.

John Joe O'Reilly 2 All Ireland's,11 Ulster Titles, 1 NFL I don't think there is much debate that he wouldn't be in the top 4.

In 1984, the GAA's centenary year he was named at centre half-back on the Football Team of the Century. In 1999 he was again honoured by the GAA by being named on their Gaelic Football Team of the Millennium.

The likes of John Joe and Charlie Gallagher are two players who i would have loved to have seen play.

rrs wrote: »

He's worth the inclusion many accolades of course. But still bizarre that McCabe wasn't mentioned. Cavan hadn't won an Ulster title since 69, before the win in 97 and haven't won one since. McCabe and the 97 team would have given some hope to the young players.

What about Stephen King then struggled away for years on average teams and finally captained the team to an Ulster.