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  • #3302
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,167 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    nullzero wrote: »
    So 10000 people being arrested is OK by you?

    What's your opinion?


  • #3303
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,448 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Overheal wrote: »
    If your response is to carry on asking deflective questions what other response need I give?

    Where have I deflected anything?

    You're free to PM me if you've got a problem with me.

    Glazers Out!



  • #3304
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,972 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    nullzero wrote: »
    So the people dying in these protests are acceptable collateral damage then?

    How did you even think that that is what I was implying or would think?

    Nobody should die at a protest.
    There should be no need for these protests
    How do we stop these protests?

    Think about it...


  • #3305
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,972 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    nullzero wrote: »
    Where have I deflected anything?

    You're free to PM me if you've got a problem with me.

    Overheal is pointing out that I have asked you a question and you have declined to answer it while commenting on other elements of the post in which it was placed.


  • #3306
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It's pretty obvious hen somebody is overdosing from opioids. Restricting their airway is thee last thing you want to do. I like how you can have a laugh about a black man asphyxiating.

    im laughing at your ridiculous logic and your attempt at spinning and twisting stuff... how was the police to know he was on opioids ?

    The fact you dismiss the notion that being on fatal amounts of opiods could have killed him is laughable aswell, not even trying to hide your intentions or biases

    His some man to hold his breath for 9 min .


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  • #3307
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,448 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Tell me how wrote: »
    How did you even think that that is what I was implying or would think?

    Nobody should die at a protest.
    There should be no need for these protests
    How do we stop these protests?

    Think about it...

    In light of how these protests have degenerated my solution would be to stop having them for a time. Anyone who sees themselves as leaders in the BLM movement should be taking responsibility and stopping this degenerating further. As things stand people getting shot at protests is sadly going to become more frequent.

    Glazers Out!



  • #3308
    antix80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭antix80


    nullzero wrote: »
    So 10000 people being arrested is OK by you?

    People don't understand large numbers.


  • #3309
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,393 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    nullzero wrote: »
    So 10000 people being arrested is OK by you?

    Yes
    If it brings about change.
    Blm.


  • #3310
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Lol. Lets see some of yours so rather than this type of Kelly-Anne Conway 'alternative facts' rebuttal.

    Or feel free to answer this question which is very difficult for some to consider.

    ;What percentage, in your mind, does it take so that a movement can definitively be identified as being a mob who are looting?'

    What are you on about...percentages, it doesn't matter...ask yourself, who is reeking havoc, rioting, looting, destruction of property and businesses, murder and mayhem across American cities since late May...because that is what voters are going to be thinking about when they cast their vote in November...not percentages...what idiocy!!!!

    When one side of the divided communities in the North were rioting who was thinking about percentages....what percentage? what a completely idiotic question!!!!


  • #3311
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,448 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Overheal is pointing out that I have asked you a question and you have declined to answer it while commenting on other elements of the post in which it was placed.

    You asked me what percentage of people protesting being arrested is acceptable. 0% is the answer.

    Now can you apologise for misrepresenting me earlier?

    Glazers Out!



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  • #3312
    JJayoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    AbusesToilets wrote: »
    Blake was shot because he didn't obey the police officer's instructions and made threatening acts.

    In fairness he was shot because a useless cop panicked.

    Defund the cops??? **** sake train them in the most basic sh1t.

    If two cops can't restrain a guy half their size then they shouldn't be on patrol.

    As soon as he laid his hands on the cops they should have slammed him to the ground and fcuked him into the car.


  • #3313
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,972 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    nullzero wrote: »
    You asked me what percentage of people protesting being arrested is acceptable. 0% is the answer.

    Now can you apologise for misrepresenting me earlier?

    That isn't what I asked you.

    And I have nothing to apologize for.

    Here is the question. Again.

    'What percentage, in your mind, does it take so that a movement can definitively be identified as being a mob who are looting?'


  • #3314
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,448 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Cody montana wrote: »
    Yes
    If it brings about change.
    Blm.

    Currently it's bringing about more arrests and increasing fatalities.

    Glazers Out!



  • #3315
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Tell me how wrote: »
    That isn't what I asked you.

    And I have nothing to apologize for.

    Here is the question. Again.

    'What percentage, in your mind, does it take so that a movement can definitively be identified as being a mob who are looting?'

    Stop.....I can't breath!!!!


  • #3316
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,393 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    nullzero wrote: »
    Currently it's bringing about more arrests and increasing fatalities.

    Black people are still being shot, so I agree.
    Time for change.


  • #3317
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,448 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Tell me how wrote: »
    That isn't what I asked you.

    And I have nothing to apologize for.

    Here is the question. Again.

    'What percentage, in your mind, does it take so that a movement can definitively be identified as being a mob who are looting?'

    Well in this case the 0.05% (which equates to 10000 arrests) makes the movement identifiable as a mob.

    You have on more than one occasion made assumptions about me that I take exception to, so by that measure you owe me an apology.

    Glazers Out!



  • #3318
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Cupatae wrote: »
    im laughing at your ridiculous logic and your attempt at spinning and twisting stuff... how was the police to know he was on opioids ?

    The fact you dismiss the notion that being on fatal amounts of opiods could have killed him is laughable aswell, not even trying to hide your intentions or biases

    His some man to hold his breath for 9 min .

    I'm a pharmacist its kinda my gig, you can build a serious tolerance to fentanyl


  • #3319
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,972 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    What are you on about...percentages, it doesn't matter...ask yourself, who is reeking havoc, rioting, looting, destruction of property and businesses, murder and mayhem across American cities since late May...because that is what voters are going to be thinking about when they cast their vote in November...not percentages...what idiocy!!!!

    When one side of the divided communities in the North were rioting who was thinking about percentages....what percentage? what a completely idiotic question!!!!

    I'll try to put it in basic terms for you.
    The vast vast majority of protests and protesters are peaceful and therefore the purpose of the movement is in know way undermined or invalidated.

    In November, I suspect people are going to be thinking about the absolute disaster Trump has been and how he has failed to deliver on everyone of his 2016 campaign promises, and has criminally mismanaged the countries Covid-19 response.


  • #3320
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,167 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    nullzero wrote: »
    You asked me what percentage of people protesting being arrested is acceptable. 0% is the answer.

    Okay, now answer this:

    What percentage of dead people at the hands of police is acceptable?


  • #3321
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I'm a pharmacist, you can build a serious tolerance to fentanyl

    Hey...there's no cure for stupid..am I right?


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  • #3322
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,448 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Cody montana wrote: »
    Black people are still being shot, so I agree.
    Time for change.

    It's estimated that 30 people died in the protests that took place after George Floyd was killed. 30 lives ended. How is that acceptable?

    Glazers Out!



  • #3323
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,448 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Overheal wrote: »
    Okay, now answer this:

    What percentage of dead people at the hands of police is acceptable?

    Innocent people? 0%

    Glazers Out!



  • #3324
    JJayoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    Ended up going down the youtube rabbit hole.... There are some shocking videos online, there is an extremely sinister element to the BML protests, a group of people who are joining in with the protests solely to cause harm.

    Watched a video of a guy having his head kicked like a football by 3/4 guys while others film, he's 100% dead and I feel incredibly disturbed/anxious that I watched a guy die while people cheer.


  • #3325
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,167 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    nullzero wrote: »
    Innocent people? 0%

    Okay. Well, that's not the case. And that's why they march.


  • #3326
    AbusesToilets
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,569 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Why don't you, put a percentage on the numbers who have marched who have engaged in violence or looting?

    What percentage, in your mind, does it take so that a movement can definitively be identified as being a mob who are looting?

    This question has been asked of several here, none of which have answered it to this point.

    I'm sure the business owners who saw their lives work getting destroyed in the name of BLM care about the percentages. As though it matters.


  • #3327
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    Hey...there's no cure for stupid..am I right?

    I don't really get where you are coming from. Are you suggesting I'm stupid?


  • #3328
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,167 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    JJayoo wrote: »
    Ended up going down the youtube rabbit hole.... There are some shocking videos online, there is an extremely sinister element to the BML protests, a group of people who are joining in with the protests solely to cause harm.

    Watched a video of a guy having his head kicked like a football by 3/4 guys while others film, he's 100% dead and I feel incredibly disturbed/anxious that I watched a guy die while people cheer.

    iirc you may be looking at Boogaloo


  • #3329
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,972 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    nullzero wrote: »
    Well in this case the 0.05% (which equates to 10000 arrests) makes the movement identifiable as a mob.

    Ok, so 0.05% is your benchmark, seems ludicrous but that's what you are going with.

    Now, with that in mind, do you want to put a percentage on what you think the number of police precincts in which there is institutional racism or unacceptable behaviour.


  • #3330
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Tell me how wrote: »
    I'll try to put it in basic terms for you.
    The vast vast majority of protests and protesters are peaceful and therefore the purpose of the movement is in know way undermined or invalidated.

    In November, I suspect people are going to be thinking about the absolute disaster Trump has been and how he has failed to deliver on everyone of his 2016 campaign promises, and has criminally mismanaged the countries Covid-19 response.

    It doesn't matter how many are peaceful...at what point will that penny drop?

    This is going to destroy the Democratic Party.

    You'll be the one scratching your head calling the Yanks thick in November when Trump secures another 4 years....


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  • #3331
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,393 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    nullzero wrote: »
    It's estimated that 30 people died in the protests that took place after George Floyd was killed. 30 lives ended. How is that acceptable?

    “Estimate”
    Next!

    The white supremacy kid shot 2 of those people so?


  • #3332
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,448 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Ok, so 0.05% is your benchmark, seems ludicrous but that's what you are going with.

    Now, with that in mind, do you want to put a percentage on what you think the number of police precincts in which there is institutional racism or unacceptable behaviour.

    No I don't care to put a percentage on that.

    Do you care to admit you were unfair towards me earlier in the thread? I didn't think so. Here you are again demanding demanding demanding and giving nothing in return. You debate in bad faith and expect others to run around in circles to humour you.

    Glazers Out!



  • #3333
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,448 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Cody montana wrote: »
    “Estimate”
    Next!

    The white supremacy kid shot 2 of those people so?

    My apologies, it isn't an estimate it is an established number. Next.

    Glazers Out!



  • #3334
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,448 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Overheal wrote: »
    Okay. Well, that's not the case. And that's why they march.

    There's more than simple peaceful marching going on though. People are dying.

    Here's a question for you, how many avoidable deaths are acceptable to you?

    I answered your questions promptly, I'm assuming you will undoubtedly extend me the same courtesy.

    Glazers Out!



  • #3335
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,972 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    It doesn't matter how many are peaceful...at what point will that penny drop?

    This is going to destroy the Democratic Party.

    You'll be the one scratching your head calling the Yanks thick in November when Trump secures another 4 years....

    NBA teams announced today that they are opening their stadiums to voters in November.

    Even republicans (Lincoln Project and Republican Voters Against Trump) are coming out to support Biden because of Trumps ineptitude.


  • #3336
    AbusesToilets
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,569 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    They might try but I think it would blow back on them.

    He had great opportunity to shoot 'Lil Rambo' after he'd killed a man but showed restraint at the time by trying to chase him instead. That contrasts terribly for Lil Rambo, who showed no restraint, shooting multiple rounds into people and the crowd.

    I don't think a jury will be offended by regrets about the restraint you showed when the other person didn't and that lead to another man is dead and your life is altered forever.

    Why do you lie when the video shows the opposite of what you posted. He didn't fire indiscriminately into the crowd, he exercised control and infact didn't fire on one of his attackers when they put their hands up.


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  • #3337
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    Cody montana wrote: »
    Black people are still being shot, so I agree.
    Time for change.

    What do you think about the white people shot and the other races, or is it just exclusively to benefit the black race, gotta love Only Black Lives Matter logic.


  • #3338
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    Cody montana wrote: »
    “Estimate”
    Next!

    The white supremacy kid shot 2 of those people so?

    And so the mental gymnastics continue, he was Murderer terrorist now his a white supremacist quite the achievement for a lad that merely defended himself from 4 men one of which was armed and the other was a convicted pedophile.. no body bats an eyelid, the kid should have just accepted his faith that would have appeased the BLM crew on here.. they would rather a kid get beaten or killed than him defend himself from BLM.


  • #3339
    Broadstone Bob
    Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Broadstone Bob


    nullzero wrote: »
    There's more than simple peaceful marching going on though. People are dying.

    Here's a question for you, how many avoidable deaths are acceptable to you?

    "If we don't get it, burn it down"
    Who organises this siht?? This is insane

    https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1299462309102997505?s=20


  • #3340
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Tell me how wrote: »
    NBA teams announced today that they are opening their stadiums to voters in November.

    Even republicans (Lincoln Project and Republican Voters Against Trump) are coming out to support Biden because of Trumps ineptitude.

    Jesus you are in some bubble...

    You are going to get that in this election, people switching party, it's happening to both parties....Trump received a much bigger mandate from Republicans than Biden got from Democrats...that is what is relevant.

    Just so you know...there's a ball of democrat voters switching to the republican party as well!!!


  • #3341
    antix80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭antix80


    nullzero wrote: »
    It's estimated that 30 people died in the protests that took place after George Floyd was killed. 30 lives ended. How is that acceptable?

    2.8 million Americans die every year.

    So 30 is nothing. Most are bloody idiots like that guy who got squished by a statue he pulled down (i think he survived actually). These people are darwin award level idiots.

    BLM is a con. Black criminals with outstanding warrants act stupid trying to escape justice and end up getting killed by cops spooked by unpredictable behavior. So masked thugs loot and riot but most are peaceful (but harrass people they don't agree with and improvise weapons like using a skateboard)


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  • #3342
    drunkmonkey911
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 20 ✭drunkmonkey911


    Tell me how wrote: »
    If there were more people like him, black people would probably still be seen as lesser people in the eyes of the law, if not outright slaves.
    Cody montana wrote: »
    The white supremacy kid shot 2 of those people so?

    These kind of unsubstantiated claims only serve to damage a persons own credibility.


  • #3343
    kildare lad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    Broadstone Bob wrote: »
    "If we don't get it, burn it down"
    Who organises this siht?? This is insane

    https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1299462309102997505?s=20

    And idiots on here wonder why people are armed protecting business's. BLM - burn ,loot , murder


  • #3344
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    kildare lad wrote: »
    And idiots on here wonder why people are armed protecting business's. BLM - burn ,loot , murder

    There couldn't be a more accurate description of that lot! Burn Loot Murder!! absolutely on the money!


  • #3345
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Broadstone Bob wrote: »
    "If we don't get it, burn it down"
    Who organises this siht?? This is insane

    https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1299462309102997505?s=20

    The Purge - courtesy of this lot.


  • #3346
    Spiderman0081
    Registered Users Posts: 439 ✭✭Spiderman0081


    Broadstone Bob wrote: »
    "If we don't get it, burn it down"
    Who organises this siht?? This is insane

    https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1299462309102997505?s=20
    I think their talking about average iq grades. Not sure what they’ll burn down though when they don’t get them


  • #3347
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    antix80 wrote: »
    2.8 million Americans die every year.

    So 30 is nothing. Most are bloody idiots like that guy who got squished by a statue he pulled down (i think he survived actually). These people are darwin award level idiots.



    Apparently, he now has even less IQ than he started out with


  • #3348
    BloodBath
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    Foxtrol wrote: »
    They might try but I think it would blow back on them.

    He had great opportunity to shoot 'Lil Rambo' after he'd killed a man but showed restraint at the time by trying to chase him instead. That contrasts terribly for Lil Rambo, who showed no restraint, shooting multiple rounds into people and the crowd.

    I don't think a jury will be offended by regrets about the restraint you showed when the other person didn't and that lead to another man is dead and your life is altered forever.

    Oh yes, pistol guy showed great restraint by firing the first rounds and quite possibly got the first guy killed by spooking AR guy who was being chased.

    The same pistol guy who got shot in the arm while pulling his gun on the grounded AR guy, and once wounded he backed off, AR guy didn't continue to shoot so he's alive.

    I'm not taking sides, just pointing out the hypocrisy. Everyone involved in this behaved like idiots. It's not some left vs right thing. You don't have to take sides.


  • #3349
    antix80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭antix80


    Bambi wrote: »
    Apparently, he now has even less IQ than he started out with

    It may have increased slightly. He learned about gravity.


  • #3350
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Oh yes, pistol guy showed great restraint by firing the first rounds and quite possibly got the first guy killed by spooking AR guy who was being chased.

    The same pistol guy who got shot in the arm while pulling his gun on the grounded AR guy, and once wounded he backed off, AR guy didn't continue to shoot so he's alive.

    I'm not taking sides, just pointing out the hypocrisy. Everyone involved in this behaved like idiots. It's not some left vs right thing. You don't have to take sides.

    You ll notice any time foxtrol, overheal or tellmemore make any point about that incident they will never reference the fact he was been chased by people who fired the first shots.

    They actively ignore those aspects of the incident in there attempts to label him any of the following "murderer ,terrorist and white supremacist"

    Extremely hypocritical lot at the best of time, heavily skewed towards blm and will lie and muddy the waters to defend them.


  • #3351
    Jeff2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,154 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    It's not even known as fact if the lad Kyal that did shoot the first guy.
    Other shots were fired.

    He was to protect business and was chased away from doing that.

    His parents should not let I'm go but he did well in the situation he got into.


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