Govt to replace Direct Provision with protection system

Deleted User wrote: »

Wife and kids..
Then the grandparents.. Then the whoever fits the bill.
Unfortunately he's an 'Irish citizen' now...makes you wonder why the crew isn't already with him, how long does it take to become a citizen? Must have been another scam ongoing.

Probably refused citizenship in the UK, and then decided to try the mugs here.

Kivaro wrote: »

So we have 2 small poorly-supported political parties in Ireland setting up future generations of the country for a world of pain and strife. The Labour Party's circumventing the intent of the 2004 citizenship referendum is a spit in the face to the 80% of the Irish population who voted for it. This, with the combination of the Green Party's replacement of Direct Provision with the guarantee of housing to every single person from all over the world who wants to come to Ireland and claim asylum with their own homes within 4 months, has assured a rush to Ireland to make avail of free housing and easy citizenship.

We are on our own unfortunately, as there is no genuine political party in Ireland who will stand up to the lunacy of what is currently happening before our eyes. The EU will only be too happy to point asylum seekers in migrant camps in their own countries in Ireland's direction. It will socially and financially devastate us, so we should ask what did we do to deserve this?

Simple, we voted for these clowns.
I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that the only remedy is to hold my nose and vote for those ass-clowns in the National Party or any Independent that's willing to stand against this lunacy.
Macron in France is now cracking down on islamists and demanding integration, don't be fooled that it had anything to do with teachers getting beheaded in the streets over cartoons though, he was all on board with this kind of nonsense untill LePen started creeping up behind him as a real political threat, right before 'his eyes suddenly opened'.

Unless you threaten to take away their ministeral cars politicians will continue to treat you like fools.

conorhal wrote: »

Simple, we voted for these clowns.
I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that the only remedy is to hold my nose and vote for those ass-clowns in the National Party or any Independent that's willing to stand against this lunacy.
Macron in France is now cracking down on islamists and demanding integration, don't be fooled that it had anything to do with teachers getting beheaded in the streets over cartoons though, he was all on board with this kind of nonsense untill LePen started creeping up behind him as a real political threat, right before 'his eyes suddenly opened'.

Unless you threaten to take away their ministeral cars politicians will continue to treat you like fools.

In the last GE, there was a massive swing of 1st preference votes to Sinn Fein, unfortunately , they did not field enough candidates ( which will not happen again ) FFG struggled to get seats...in some cases only after multiple recounts...very few 1st preference votes went to them. This was not a case of the whole Country becoming Sinn Feiners overnight, but an attempt to remove FFG from power. It was the only option voters had to break the FFG monopoly.

Kivaro wrote: »

The Housing Department's report on this new protection system stated that there could be legal challenges to Roderic O' Gorman's implementation of this plan. It is obviously discriminatory to provide own-door housing to people claiming asylum within 4 months of arriving in Ireland while Irish people on multi-year waiting lists are skipped over in order to accommodate the Green Party's no-cap numbers coming here.

Today Minister Simon Harris is going to announce a new apprenticeship strategy, which is great because it is badly needed. The plan will double the amount of apprentices to 10,000 per year in a 5 year plan. Grants of €3,000 per apprentice will be available from next year. However, the government will provide additional supports if employers take on underrepresented groups and asylum seekers.

There is no issue with support for underrepresented groups or refugees who have actually been granted asylum, but to provide additional support to asylum seekers who just arrived in the country and without adequate criminal background checks or confirmation of who they actually are, is wrong. This is another policy by the Irish government that will result in discrimination against Irish apprenticeship seekers versus asylum applicants.

That is so very wrong. We have a serious issue with underemployed unskilled young people and apprenticeships have been neglected in favour of a bloated educational sector with many pointless third level courses. So increased funding for apprenticeships would under normal circumstances be a great thing. But to hand them to asylum *seekers* the vast majority of whose claims are bogus and who have entered here illegally - just no. We owe them nothing. I'm so sick of this.

jmreire wrote: »

In the last GE, there was a massive swing of 1st preference votes to Sinn Fein, unfortunately , they did not field enough candidates ( which will not happen again ) FFG struggled to get seats...in some cases only after multiple recounts...very few 1st preference votes went to them. This was not a case of the whole Country becoming Sinn Feiners overnight, but an attempt to remove FFG from power. It was the only option voters had to break the FFG monopoly.

SF are a complete open borders party. They will absolutely never get a preference from me again. I don't even think most of their voters and members know this given the Ipsos MRBI poll linked previously so they are in for a shock.

Fandymo wrote: »

Unfortunately I think SF will be an awful lot worse then FFG for this country. And unfortunately I think we will find that out for real in a few years.

In order to change the status quo,People were prepared to risk this happening. Thats how desperate people are for change..and as for being worse for the Country, that remains to be seen, but in all honesty, how much worse can they be than FFG???

jmreire wrote: »

In order to change the status quo,People were prepared to risk this happening. Thats how desperate people are for change..and as for being worse for the Country, that remains to be seen, but in all honesty, how much worse can they be than FFG???

They could end up being worse. I'd love to give them the benefit of the doubt and give them a go. Open borders are a red line for me though. Also their communist housing policy, I'd rather encourage or facilitate people being able to buy (or rent) their own house rather than increasing reliance on the state. Hard to achieve though admittedly. They try very hard to be "woke" too which is a real turn off

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/616340/limerick-sinn-fein-member-cant-run-in-next-general-election-because-of-my-gender.html

Fandymo wrote: »

I fear we will find out after the next election.

if Mary Lou had fielded more candidates in the last GE...we would have a fair idea by now......Th next GE will tell alot, when ever that will be.

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Id absolutely agree, until the national party became more popular during the pandemic, id wager every barstool and taxi plate racist in the country was a die hard shinner.

This is a golden opportunity for the NP to swoop in and take a chunk out of the SF voter base. If they fail, then it'll be nobody's fault but theirs.

Mad_maxx wrote: »

SF have adopted a new strategy this past six or seven years , much more focused on progressive cultural issues which appeal to left wing middle class voters , Eoin o Broin has been the central architect of this new approach , courting the progressives was always going to put them in better stead with the media and SF have always been treated rather frostily by the media

Ah, good old O'Broin, champion of the housing crisis, he is such a cult hero in them circles that he wont buy a house himself, rather keep renting so he can be in that gang.
Its not like he cant afford one but its look better for his image, a total fraud of the highest order.

Deleted User wrote: »

True, but they'll mess it up. They're still too "new"a party and have too many idiotic ideas floating around within their candidates.

Nah. There's little hope that the NP will manage to be anything more than the boogeyman of the left, because they've allowed themselves to be slotted into the unreasonable category. A new party without the baggage of NP will come along, and they'll attract most of the SF voters, along with many of those who tend to float between FG and others.

I don't see any quick end to all this crap.. it'll be years before another party steps up, but hopefully, they'll learn from the mistakes of others. At least, they'll have plenty of ammunition to choose from in deciding their agenda.

I think a party like Renua would have been perfect, but they seemed to come on the scene too early and have fizzled out since.

Unfortunately, even if another party comes on the scene in a few years, it'll be too late. God knows what sort of legislations will have been put in place by then and what work will have been put into eliminating the idea of Irishness as an ethnicity, instead making it some sort of malleable civic concept to suit whatever social engineering projects are planned.

I just received a response to my previously posted email by Neale Richmond (FG). Worth noting that Neale Richmond, when he was a senator, voted against the naturalisation bill when labour brought it to the Seanad in 2018.


Many thanks for getting in touch and for sharing your opinions.



I am supportive of both Minister McEntee’s Justice Plan and the White Paper on ending direct provision.



The new building and acquiring of accommodation for asylum seekers will be additional to our current housing stock. The Department of Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth will go about building six new Reception Centres and as part of the second phase, the Department will engage with Approved Housing Bodies or other not-for-profit groups regarding the building and acquiring of new accommodation.



We have a responsibility to ensure that those who come to Ireland to seek International Protection are treated with respect and fairly.



The purpose of this move is not to take anything away from the Irish people. Irish people and taxpayers have a right to expect an International Protection system that is efficient in terms of time and cost, that protects our security and is not open to abuse.



On the Justice Plan, Minister McEntee is seeking to regularise the status of the residents in Ireland who have families here, work here and contribute to our society. We cannot say that these people are unlikely to work, indeed they are already contributing to our country in many cases. The scheme for regularising their status is set to launch in autumn with an application process opening by the end of the year. It is worth noting that 3,000 of these 17,000 people who could benefit from this scheme are children or young people.



I know times are really tough for so many people at the moment, this past year has certainly not been easy under any circumstances. However, this cannot preclude us from making Ireland a more welcoming and better place to live for all its residents, not just the Irish people