League of Ireland players to take a knee upon restart

Omackeral · 29-07-2020 1:08pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

That’s Bohs, they say everyone welcome, while calling Alan Mannus a dirty orange bstard for 90 mins everytime they play Rovers. Racism bad, Sectarianism grand.

Not defending it but at the Bohs/Rovers matches you always get a filth element that you wouldn't get at week-in and week-out games. Guarantee you the vermin chanting that wouldn't be at Galway away matches... or even home for that matter.

Club issued an email to all members regarding this by the way. Condemned it completely. So no, it's not accepted.

drunkmonkey · 29-07-2020 1:08pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

I don’t think criminals go to heaven. Even with a heavy media campaign.

Would be worth reminding the league he stuck a gun in a pregnant woman's stomach. Wokie Irish media should have printed his rap sheet.

Omackeral · 29-07-2020 1:08pm

Oranage2 wrote: »

There are black people in Ireland who suffered racism, prejudice and abuse.

Just because you're ignorant to it doesn't mean it doesn't happen

We should do one for Travellers next.

Omackeral · 29-07-2020 1:11pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Wokie Irish media should have printed his rap sheet.

Funny you should say that, he literally was a rapper in Screwed Up Click

andekwarhola · 29-07-2020 1:15pm

MrMusician18 wrote: »

And this empty gesture will stop that?

Great!

I'd hazard a guess that that's why they're called gestures,

As opposed to, say, immediate global solutions?

drunkmonkey · 29-07-2020 1:20pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Funny you should say that, he literally was a rapper in Screwed Up Click

Made a porno as well, poor girl couldn't pay the rent.

andekwarhola · 29-07-2020 1:23pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Third or fourth time this has been said but it’s not Bohs behind it.

Amazingly.

Lambert will see heads roll for the lost woke bandwagon oppo, no doubt.

Signore Fancy Pants · 29-07-2020 1:31pm

Thank Allah the LOI are taking a stance against racial injustice in The US of A.

Im really hoping this will put an end to it!

With any luck the aul GAA Junior B will take inspiration from it and take a knee to stop the bombing in Syria.

/World fixed.

Omackeral · 29-07-2020 1:31pm

andekwarhola wrote: »

Lambert will see heads roll for the lost woke bandwagon oppo, no doubt.

We call him Refujesus.

Slowyourrole · 29-07-2020 1:32pm

Birneybau wrote: »

What 'frenzy'?

That equal rights frenzy the left is so into.

Fair play to LoI for showing their support for people of colour trying to be heard.

sabat · 29-07-2020 1:38pm

So we're agreed then; this is coming entirely from Phibsboro's St.Pauli wannabes and no other club.

radiata · 29-07-2020 1:42pm

What a load of rubbish! Pure American shiite doing this

Montageofhell · 29-07-2020 1:46pm

Omackeral wrote: »

Imagine supporting your own teams. Weird concept, isn't it?

Seems to be. So few supporters appear to show up. More embarrassing supporting teams in England though. :eek:

jimmycrackcorm · 29-07-2020 1:48pm

Taking a knee here or in the UK is stupid symbolism. It started as a way to give respect to the US flag and anthem while still making a point. So partly is about protesting for BLM, and partly about the US flag.

keano_afc · 29-07-2020 1:56pm

Box ticking, virtue signalling exercise. Nothing more, nothing less.

paw patrol · 29-07-2020 1:57pm

Omackeral wrote: »

It's the board pushing that agenda more than the fans. It actually alienates some of the people there who just want to go to watch bloody football and care not a jot for political stances.

i'm also a bohs fan , me and kids went for years to the home games. I liked the family friendly ethos of the club.
But the club in recent years have pushed the far left agenda and it's not for me anymore.

Admittedly it was always there but it wasn't in my face and i could enjoy the football without it being political.

JohnnyFlash · 29-07-2020 2:04pm

paw patrol wrote: »

i'm also a bohs fan , me and kids went for years to the home games. I liked the family friendly ethos of the club.
But the club in recent years have pushed the far left agenda and it's not for me anymore.

Admittedly it was always there but it wasn't in my face and i could enjoy the football without it being political.

Become a Shels supporter.

andekwarhola · 29-07-2020 2:15pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Become a Shels supporter.

Definitely the right choice for people interested in unpopular minorities.

paw patrol · 29-07-2020 2:27pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Become a Shels supporter.

stranger things have happened.

I liked the craic of the live games

and maybe few pints on occasion and the kids always got to hit the golden chip on the way back.

andekwarhola wrote: »

Definitely the right choice for people interested in unpopular minorities.

AdrianBalboa · 29-07-2020 2:32pm

There's no need to accuse the league of importing "American racism" when we have problems in that department of our own.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/we-have-been-traumatised-asylum-seekers-in-a-kerry-direct-provision-centre-on-hunger-strike-in-protest-at-inhumane-conditions-39403971.html

This thread and the people complaining about this gesture reek of white privilege.

riffmongous · 29-07-2020 2:44pm

paw patrol wrote: »

stranger things have happened.

I liked the craic of the live games

and maybe few pints on occasion and the kids always got to hit the golden chip on the way back.

How did any of that change though?

Pixel Eater · 29-07-2020 2:47pm

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

There's no need to accuse the league of importing "American racism" when we have problems in that department of our own.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/we-have-been-traumatised-asylum-seekers-in-a-kerry-direct-provision-centre-on-hunger-strike-in-protest-at-inhumane-conditions-39403971.html

This thread and the people complaining about this gesture reek of white privilege.

Surprised that it took so many post before someone mentioned 'white privilege'. Can you even have 'white privilege' when the indigenous population is white and the society is 96% white as a whole?

This is pure virtue signaling. And is it even required; there is already a high profile UEFA-wide anti-racism campaign.

Zebra3 · 29-07-2020 2:48pm

andekwarhola wrote: »

Definitely the right choice for people interested in unpopular minorities.

How so?

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 29-07-2020 3:01pm

Here's a slogan for your T-shirts: "Don't be a slave to the BLM agenda!"

See what I did there... :P

riffmongous · 29-07-2020 3:16pm

Pixel Eater wrote: »

This is pure virtue signaling. And is it even required; there is already a high profile UEFA-wide anti-racism campaign.

England. More than 150 football-related racist incidents were reported to police last season, Home Office figures show, a rise of more than 50% on the year before and more than double the number from three seasons ago.

In August 2019, Romelu Lukaku was racially abused by Calgiari opposition fans.[96] He later said that the sport was "going backwards" on racism.[97] An Inter fan group called Curva Nord later said that the monkey chants from opposition fans were a sign of respect towards Lukaku.[98] Italian TV pundit Luciano Passirani was later banned for making racist comments about Lukaku.[99] On 15 September 2019, Franck Kessie was reportedly racially abused by Hellas Verona fans during a match with AC Milan. On 16 September 2019, Hellas Verona released a statement on their Twitter account and denied the happening.[100] Later that month, Piara Powar of anti-discriminatory body Fare said that "the rot is deep" when discussing racism in Italian football

The Czech soccer league on Thursday fined a club 160,000 Czech crowns ($6,700) after its fans racially abused an opposing player during a cup game, the second such case in a week. The incident occurred June 17 during the game between Sparta Prague and Plzen when a number of fans directed racist insults at Plzen midfielder Joel Kayamba of the Democratic Republic of Congo.

Bulgaria's national soccer team has been ordered by UEFA to play its next home game behind closed doors as punishment for the "racist behavior" of its fans during a Euro 2020 qualifier against England. The Bulgarian Football Union has also been fined $94,000 (€85,000) for the "racist behavior of its supporters and the throwing of objects" and "causing disturbances during a national anthem." $83,000 of the fine was for the "racist behavior."

And then there's the regular monkey chants heard all across eastern and southern europe that aren't even news worthy they are so common. I'm glad to see the LOI aren't hiding behind 'not our problem'

JohnnyFlash · 29-07-2020 3:19pm

Zebra3 wrote: »

How so?

I think he’s suggesting it isn’t great when a football club has its own wing in Mountjoy.

Zebra3 · 29-07-2020 3:20pm

riffmongous wrote: »

And then there's the regular monkey chants heard all across eastern and southern europe that aren't even news worthy they are so common. I'm glad to see the LOI aren't hiding behind 'not our problem'

How are incidents at matches in Bulgaria, Italy and the Czech Republic anyway relevant to the League of Ireland?

completedit · 29-07-2020 3:23pm

I wonder will the take the knee celebration be in FIFA

riffmongous · 29-07-2020 3:25pm

Zebra3 wrote: »

How are incidents at matches in Bulgaria, Italy and the Czech Republic anyway relevant to the League of Ireland?

Because we play in Europe every summer, it's truly an international game nowadays so why turn a blind eye? It's going to affect an Irish club or international player sooner or later

The first line about the big increase in incidents is from England btw

Zebra3 · 29-07-2020 3:45pm

riffmongous wrote: »

Because we play in Europe every summer, it's truly an international game nowadays so why turn a blind eye? It's going to affect an Irish club or international player sooner or later

The first line about the big increase in incidents is from England btw

Yeah, England, another foreign country.

Why not focus protests here on all the people left on trolleys in hospitals instead? Why do we turn a blind eye to that issue?

Lesnar Defender · 29-07-2020 4:00pm

The only other leagues that have done this (as far as I am aware) are the US and the UK. So our league doing it makes perfect sense considering we are desperate to copy everything else from the US and UK

riffmongous · 29-07-2020 4:01pm

Zebra3 wrote: »

Yeah, England, another foreign country.

Why not focus protests here on all the people left on trolleys in hospitals instead? Why do we turn a blind eye to that issue?

A country with a big influence here, that had a very good record on racism that is quickly getting worse.

Off you go then, write up the email to the FAI asking them to consider all the football players around Europe being left on trolleys. Or is this just a cheap excuse for you to knock other people actually getting off their ass and doing something?

Zebra3 · 29-07-2020 4:10pm

riffmongous wrote: »

A country with a big influence here, that had a very good record on racism that is quickly getting worse.

Off you go then, write up the email to the FAI asking them to consider all the football players around Europe being left on trolleys. Or is this just a cheap excuse for you to knock other people actually getting off their ass and doing something?

Nobody is doing anything worthwhile.

It's bandwagoning.

Like all the idiots who changed their fb profile to incorporate the French flag after attacks in Paris.

If those running the league cared so much about BLM, why wasn't this a thing last year or at the start of the season?

It's being done because someone thinks it's cool, that's all.

Mysterypunter · 29-07-2020 4:12pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

That’s Bohs, they say everyone welcome, while calling Alan Mannus a dirty orange bstard for 90 mins everytime they play Rovers. Racism bad, Sectarianism grand.

Alan Mannus was born in Canada, last year some of the fantastic angry young men shouted at Michael O'Connor go home you Orange bastard, he is from Dundalk.

Rodney Bathgate · 29-07-2020 4:13pm

riffmongous wrote: »

And then there's the regular monkey chants heard all across eastern and southern europe that aren't even news worthy they are so common. I'm glad to see the LOI aren't hiding behind 'not our problem'

Not to mention bananas being thrown on the pitch.

JasonStatham · 29-07-2020 4:24pm

Omackeral wrote: »

The League of Ireland starts back this weekend after being on hiatus due to the pandemic. I read the other day that players and officials will ''take the knee'' in solidarity with BLM for the first 8 games of the restart. What's your thoughts on this?

I watched Match of the Day on Sunday and they literally showed every knee-take from every fixture. It seemed a little overkill if I'm honest. However, England and English football has had it's fair share of racism issues. It's not really soemthing we have in the game here. So do you see this as a decent gesture? Sincere? Do you see it as necessary? Bandwagon virtue signalling?

I'm a Bohs fan and our board have seen us lean left on plenty of issues with Refugess Welcome on the jersey etc and, while it doesn't bother me too much, I'd hate to openly have the cheek to have a dissenting opinion. The players are told they may take a knee if they want to but I can only imagine the backlash if they didn't. What's your opinion?

Of course they should be taking the knee, given our long and well-documented Irish history of perpetrating racism against black people.obviously with the likes of trocaire and direct provision as tools we use to abuse foreigners.

andekwarhola · 29-07-2020 4:26pm

Zebra3 wrote: »

How so?

It was a joke, dude. Not like any domestic club can boast gigantic attendances.

You can see why the Shels support bring to mind the Behan axiom about the first agenda being on a republican party meeting agenda is the split.

andekwarhola · 29-07-2020 4:49pm

JasonStatham wrote: »

obviously with the likes of trocaire and direct provision as tools we use to abuse foreigners.

I feel so much better now about swiping the odd quid out of the Trocaire box as a kid to buy sweets.

Bobblehats · 31-07-2020 7:53pm

Well they went one worse, a little blast of Bob Marley’s “Twee little Birds” before they took the knee there at oriel. Yeh mon

can only have been at bohs behest

NIMAN · 31-07-2020 8:01pm

You'd be a brave player to NOT take the knee before games, it's so orchestrated.

Your career would be over.

So just do what you're told.

hynesie08 · 31-07-2020 8:10pm

It's been well over a decade since I went to a loi game, but I remember that if you had a free kick into the home teams stand, you got dogs abuse, homophobic, classist, personal and yes even sometimes racist, it wasn't just a bohs/rovers thing either, it was constant.

Happy to see the fake woke board of bohs called out as well.

Edgware · 01-08-2020 8:29am

Zebra3 wrote: »

Yeah, England, another foreign country.

Why not focus protests here on all the people left on trolleys in hospitals instead? Why do we turn a blind eye to that issue?

What about the homeless Joe?

Edgware · 01-08-2020 8:33am

paw patrol wrote: »

stranger things have happened.

I liked the craic of the live games

and maybe few pints on occasion and the kids always got to hit the golden chip on the way back.

Small boys in the park, jumpers for goalposts

weldoninhio · 01-08-2020 11:09am

Mysterypunter wrote: »

Alan Mannus was born in Canada, last year some of the fantastic angry young men shouted at Michael O'Connor go home you Orange bastard, he is from Dundalk.

Thanks for the, eh, info. Much obliged. Doesn’t change the fact that Mannus was called a DOB throughout the game by Bohs fans.

“At Saturday’s game there were numerous occasions when sectarian chanting could be heard from the stands. This goes against everything we have worked so hard to try and achieve in terms of making Dalymount Park an inclusive and welcoming place for people of all creeds and colours. I know people can get carried away during a game, especially against our local rivals, but we must not lower our standards and must always remember that we are Bohemian Football Club.“

Donald Trump · 01-08-2020 11:36am

AdrianBalboa wrote: »

There's no need to accuse the league of importing "American racism" when we have problems in that department of our own.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/we-have-been-traumatised-asylum-seekers-in-a-kerry-direct-provision-centre-on-hunger-strike-in-protest-at-inhumane-conditions-39403971.html

This thread and the people complaining about this gesture reek of white privilege.

Given that they went through the stress of escaping whatever mortal and imminent danger they were previously in in their home countries, it would seem curious that it is the choice of hotel in which they are accommodated that has traumatised them.

I don't know. It could just be a really shit hotel.....albeit one that tourists were happy to pay to stay in up until recently. Any reviews on TripAdvisor or the like?

pgj2015 · 01-08-2020 11:37am

fair play to any LOI player who has the balls to not take the knee, especially a black player. the cop was a scum bag but so was the guy he killed, he is no hero. There was any amount of videos on youtube of black people saying black lives only matter when its a white cop killing a black person, what about when black people kill fellow black people? which is how most black people are killed in the USA.

jay1988 · 01-08-2020 12:16pm

Amazing how some people suddenly have an interest in whats happening in the LOI!

I've been going to games here for 20 years now, yes this is probably a publicity stunt/bandwagon thing but if it makes any of the black players or black fans of the league feel a bit more welcome then whats the problem? It could help get more black fans into grounds it which can only be good for the clubs who are desperate for cash and a league thats desperate for exposure.

pgj2015 · 01-08-2020 12:27pm

jay1988 wrote: »

Amazing how some people suddenly have an interest in whats happening in the LOI!

I've been going to games here for 20 years now, yes this is probably a publicity stunt/bandwagon thing but if it makes any of the black players or black fans of the league feel a bit more welcome then whats the problem? It could help get more black fans into grounds it which can only be good for the clubs who are desperate for cash and a league thats desperate for exposure.

I am a loi supporter and this kind of stunt would stop me continuing to support the league. im not in any way racist btw but I think sport and politics shouldnt mix, same as religion shouldnt.

jay1988 · 01-08-2020 12:39pm

pgj2015 wrote: »

I am a loi supporter and this kind of stunt would stop me continuing to support the league. im not in any way racist btw but I think sport and politics shouldnt mix, same as religion shouldnt.

Players taking a knee before a game will stop you supporting the league? Really? Why would it bother you so much?

pgj2015 · 01-08-2020 12:42pm

jay1988 wrote: »

Players taking a knee before a game will stop you supporting the league? Really? Why would it bother you so much?

I hate virtue signalling, there is something so fake about it. and as I said politics and religion should have no involvement with sport. I dont think the footballers should have to wear a poppy in the UK and there shouldnt have been people praying at croke park yesterday, inside or outside the ground of any religion.

League of Ireland players to take a knee upon restart

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