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The Arizona Cardinals thread!

  • 15-12-2012 12:55am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭


    I've been trawling through these forums and I couldn't find a single one of these threads, despite the Cards being one of the best teams in the league! :P

    All joking aside, is there any Cardinals fans around here? Obviously we're not really heard of as much given the misfortunes this season, which we can pretty much forget about!

    However I think once the offensive situation gets sorted out in some way I think Arizona can quite possibly clinch the divisional title as well as reaching the playoffs within the next couple of years. Obviously with Lindley and Skelton at the helm AZ are a train-wreck so as long as Kolb gets back from injury and get the offensive line back to form, we'll certainly be seeing more wins than we're seeing now :pac:

    Obviously the coaching set-up is going to be changed around for next year so it'll be interesting to see how things develop, and it's always possible a new QB could be on the way, although the good one's are hard to come by at the moment. If the QB situation does get sorted out I'm sure the combination with Fitzgerald would be lethal. Of course, it's more than just that, and it certainly wouldn't be of Super Bowl standard yet along with the top ten defense, I'm sure Arizona can go pretty far!

    I hope Kolb doesn't leave though seeing as I'm getting his jersey for Christmas! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,942 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Just thinking back there to 2008 and Edgerrin James was pretty much done at that stage and you didn't really have a good enough running game to get you home at the very end. Since then that has not improved at all and I do think that if you get a good running game going that Kolb will do well there but without it he and pretty much any other QB you get will struggle. OL has to get sorted pronto if the cards are to become competitive.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 5,015 Mod ✭✭✭✭GoldFour4


    Think you need to sort out management first. Any team that would give up what they did for Kolb is just not up for the job.

    I feel so sorry for Larry Fitz. He seems like a gent. He had a few years with Kurt Warner and they were a Santonio Holmes catch away from winning it all. Now he has Lindley and Skelton who barely connect with him. I usually like to hype up young QBs but those guys are just so awful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    Jeeeeeeez lads. Where are you Cards fans?, last post is 2012!!!.

    Just came in to check on Antoine Cason to see how he is getting on in the desert. He started at corner for my Bolts the last few yrs, bigtime underachiever and was wondering if things were still the same. I see he was active yesterday at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭kingcobra


    Leslie91 wrote: »
    Jeeeeeeez lads. Where are you Cards fans?, last post is 2012!!!.

    Just came in to check on Antoine Cason to see how he is getting on in the desert. He started at corner for my Bolts the last few yrs, bigtime underachiever and was wondering if things were still the same. I see he was active yesterday at least.

    Hey I'm still here! It just seems as if we don't have much followers around here. The team fell a little short against the Rams yesterday but it was always going to be a tough game. I'm just hoping that Palmer will eventually work out instead of being a complete flop!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    kingcobra wrote: »
    Hey I'm still here! It just seems as if we don't have much followers around here. The team fell a little short against the Rams yesterday but it was always going to be a tough game. I'm just hoping that Palmer will eventually work out instead of being a complete flop!

    Wow just saw this thread now - 4-4 heading into the bye.
    It's been a tough season for Palmer - he has just thrown too many int's. The defence has been great and keeping the team in most games.
    The next 2 games are big after the bye - 6-4 would put us in with a chance for a wildcard in the NFC! I'm prepared for disappointment though as always with the Cardinals!!

    Go Cards!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭kingcobra


    dougal wrote: »
    Wow just saw this thread now - 4-4 heading into the bye.
    It's been a tough season for Palmer - he has just thrown too many int's. The defence has been great and keeping the team in most games.
    The next 2 games are big after the bye - 6-4 would put us in with a chance for a wildcard in the NFC! I'm prepared for disappointment though as always with the Cardinals!!

    Go Cards!

    The next series of games up until week 16 is pretty favourable is as well with the odd exception. There's a strong chance they'll win at least 4 so that'll put them in a good position hopefully! It's crazy how everyone wrote off Cards as destined for last place in NFC West...now if only Palmer stopped with those interceptions...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    What's the general feeling about Bruce Arians in Arizona? Is he well liked? He was, obviously, adored in his year in Indy. I miss his style of play, but I'm not sure we'd have beaten Seattle or SF with the high-risk style.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    kingcobra wrote: »
    The next series of games up until week 16 is pretty favourable is as well with the odd exception. There's a strong chance they'll win at least 4 so that'll put them in a good position hopefully! It's crazy how everyone wrote off Cards as destined for last place in NFC West...now if only Palmer stopped with those interceptions...

    Yeah makes a difference from last season when we were 4-4 but going backwards after a 4-0 start to this one still thinking of playoff chances.
    Palmer showed signs in the Falcons game that he is getting more comfortable with the offence - Ellington getting the running game going helped too.
    davyjose wrote: »
    What's the general feeling about Bruce Arians in Arizona? Is he well liked? He was, obviously, adored in his year in Indy. I miss his style of play, but I'm not sure we'd have beaten Seattle or SF with the high-risk style.

    Arians is a good coach and there is a definite no-nonsense style to how he is running things. He is definitely well liked in Arizona but wouldn't say adored yet!
    He has dialed back the high-risk strategy a bit mainly due to Palmer making it super high-risk with some of his throws! Also he has found it difficult to find the speed receiver to stretch the field so hasn't called as many deep balls as he would have in Indy. I've been impressed with the coaching as a whole this year though - I can see big improvements in the O-line and the defense is definitely more consistent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    Strange game last night. Lost the turnover battle 3-1 and still came away with the win.
    The defense really stepped up in the second half and shut down the Texans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭kingcobra


    dougal wrote: »
    Strange game last night. Lost the turnover battle 3-1 and still came away with the win.
    The defense really stepped up in the second half and shut down the Texans.

    I didn't think they played that bad though, it'd be hard to say that they didn't deserve to win. You're right though the defense really cracked down hard on Keenum in the second half, I felt sorry for the poor chap :P
    And although the tight ends in Arizona are absolutely nowhere near the top TE class in the NFL, I thought Housler did a decent job yesterday, and Ballard did well considering it was his first game.

    I'm hoping they romp over the Jags this weekend! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    kingcobra wrote: »
    I didn't think they played that bad though, it'd be hard to say that they didn't deserve to win. You're right though the defense really cracked down hard on Keenum in the second half, I felt sorry for the poor chap :P
    And although the tight ends in Arizona are absolutely nowhere near the top TE class in the NFL, I thought Housler did a decent job yesterday, and Ballard did well considering it was his first game.

    I'm hoping they romp over the Jags this weekend! :D

    I agree the win was deserved - should have been by more even only for Mendenhall giving up that fumble and then Johnson making that wonder catch. PP should have batted that ball away instead of trying the one handed interception.
    Really like the blitz packages called by Bowles they really are so unpredictable and the D-line are really playing well especially Campbell.

    Yeah good to see Housler finally step up and have a big game - he has been really frustrating up to now.

    Bring on the Jags next week!! Go Cards!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    kingcobra wrote: »
    I'm hoping they romp over the Jags this weekend! :D

    Not exactly a romp but a comfortable win by the end.
    Great play by Floyd on the 91 yard TD he did a good impression of Megatron on that one!

    Defense really turned it on again after a slow start, that seems to be their method - figure out the offence and then make adjustments.

    Palmer did well, although he was lucky with the interception he did throw being chalked off for the timeout.

    Overall will have to improve on that to beat the Colts next week - should be an interesting one with Arians going against his former team anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    dougal wrote: »
    Overall will have to improve on that to beat the Colts next week - should be an interesting one with Arians going against his former team anyway.

    And improve we certainly did - that was the best performance of the season on both sides of the ball.

    The offence was balanced and Palmer was excellent at spreading the ball to many different receivers. Floyd has really stepped it up the last few games, he really has the potential to be a top WR. Great to see Larry get the record too.
    Especially liked the drives in the second half to close out the game, this has been this teams Achilles heal where we can't move the ball when in the lead.

    The defense really had its best game of the season though - shut down the run bar a few late yards by the rookie rb and Lucks big scramble on the TD drive.

    Looking forward to the rest of the season now that the offence seems to have clicked to Arians scheme and the D is getting better week on week too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭D3PO


    seems mad to me all this talk of Palmer not being in Arizona next season. Hes had a rocky start but he's still a more than serviceable QB hes not quite back to his early career Bengals form and hes no Kurt Warner but hes been pretty good of late and Im not convinced that Arizona can plug in something better without significant investment which would be better spent elsewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    D3PO wrote: »
    seems mad to me all this talk of Palmer not being in Arizona next season. Hes had a rocky start but he's still a more than serviceable QB hes not quite back to his early career Bengals form and hes no Kurt Warner but hes been pretty good of late and Im not convinced that Arizona can plug in something better without significant investment which would be better spent elsewhere.

    I haven't heard too much serious chatter of Palmer not being around next season.
    He was throwing a lot of interceptions earlier in the season as he and the receivers seemed to be getting used to the Arians scheme. He has turned it around though the last couple of weeks and is finally in the positive on the TD-Int ratio with 16-15.

    All in all he is a huge improvement on the numerous QB's the Cardinals have had since Warner retired so I think we are happy to stick with him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭D3PO


    there has been plenty of chatter about him not being around tbh. I suspect ta few more performances like the past two weeks may well change that view .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭kingcobra


    I'm sure at the start of the year there was talk of him leaving, obviously given that he was throwing almost a couple of interceptions each game. He's no long term option, especially given his age, but I think he'll do for the next couple of years and most certainly so if he maintains this current form.
    I don't know where the team could get a really good QB without making a significant sacrifice and I think it's best if they just pull a QB in the draft and work on his development for the next couple of years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    2013 2million salary & 2million bonus

    2014 8million salary & 2million bonus

    2015 1million salary & 2million bonus


    http://overthecap.com/cap.php?Name=Carson%20Palmer&Position=QB&Team=Cardinals

    Carson Palmer is due 10 million next year. The owners and front office will be looking at that closely and could well play a factor if he is cut or not

    If cut this offseason the 2013 & 2014 bonus money accelerates forward and becomes due so that is 4 million in dead money next year.

    Though it does free up 6 million also.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    Just wanna say congrats. Arizona got some flak for hiring a "60 year old rookie head coach" as someone on here put it. But the guy is an excellent coach. As a colts fan I'm missing him badly. I was gutted when he left.

    Hope ye make the playoffs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    2013 2million salary & 2million bonus

    2014 8million salary & 2million bonus

    2015 1million salary & 2million bonus


    http://overthecap.com/cap.php?Name=Carson%20Palmer&Position=QB&Team=Cardinals

    Carson Palmer is due 10 million next year. The owners and front office will be looking at that closely and could well play a factor if he is cut or not

    If cut this offseason the 2013 & 2014 bonus money accelerates forward and becomes due so that is 4 million in dead money next year.

    Though it does free up 6 million also.

    I think that they may have that wrong - the way the deal was done AFAIK, if cut after this season the cap hit would be 6 million - 2 million guaranteed salary plus 4 million in bonus money.
    I think the deal was done as a 2 year deal that worked for both sides.
    If he keeps playing at the level he has lately then it would more likely be an extension/restructuring we are talking about in the off-season rather than a cut.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    davyjose wrote: »
    Just wanna say congrats. Arizona got some flak for hiring a "60 year old rookie head coach" as someone on here put it. But the guy is an excellent coach. As a colts fan I'm missing him badly. I was gutted when he left.

    Hope ye make the playoffs.

    I think Arians was the perfect coach to come to Arizona.
    There was a lot of talent on the team but there were glaring weaknesses last season. He has solidified all the main weak areas and is getting the offence clicking now.

    I think the team is short on a couple of areas so if he makes the playoffs this year it would be a great achievement especially in the NFC west. It's great to be in the hunt again though!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭Dubliner28


    Hi all

    I see there is no activity here since last year but maybe someone can help me. I will be in Arizona in October and see that the Cardinals are playing the Redskins. I will be on a weeks holiday with my wife and we have never attended a game before.
    What are the chances of getting tickets for a game like this? Will it be sold out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭kingcobra


    Dubliner28 wrote: »
    Hi all

    I see there is no activity here since last year but maybe someone can help me. I will be in Arizona in October and see that the Cardinals are playing the Redskins. I will be on a weeks holiday with my wife and we have never attended a game before.
    What are the chances of getting tickets for a game like this? Will it be sold out?

    I'm not sure if there's too much Cardinals fans on here :(:p I reckon it shouldn't be too hard to get tickets for the game, you'll definitely be able to get them online if you book well in advance.
    If you're aiming to get tickets when you're out there you'll usually get them off Craigslist, and there will be a markup but I don't think it'll be at a ridiculous price.

    I myself was over there in December and went to see the last game of the same vs. the 49'ers, which was probably the biggest game of the season given they are division rivals. I got a group of three tickets off Craigslist, 10-20 rows away from the pitch (which is pretty close!) for a very reasonable enough price.

    The stadium (and the team ;)) is absolutely tremendous so it's well worth the money!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    Dubliner28 wrote: »
    Hi all

    I see there is no activity here since last year but maybe someone can help me. I will be in Arizona in October and see that the Cardinals are playing the Redskins. I will be on a weeks holiday with my wife and we have never attended a game before.
    What are the chances of getting tickets for a game like this? Will it be sold out?

    The Cardinals have sold out every game since they opened their new stadium - however they usually sell the last tickets the week of the game. So there should be tickets available through ticketmaster the week before.
    Also check Stubhub as this is a fan sales website.

    The stadium is amazing - get there early and checkout the tailgate area and the atmosphere outside the stadium, totally different to going to games here!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭Dubliner28


    Thanks guys. Will keep an eye out on all sites closer to the time of the game.

    Thanks again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    Just listening to the ESPN PTI podcast and Jaws (Ron Jaworski) picked the Cardinals as his team to make the playoffs that didn't last season.
    He said he likes Carson Palmers arm strength and the upgraded O-line should give him enough time to get the ball to his weapons Fitz and Floyd. He also likes Ellington as a threat out of the backfield.

    Good to hear some positive vibes I guess because the off-season hasn't been the best on the defensive side especially.
    Losing Dansby (free agency) Washington (Suspension) and Dockett (injury) has really dimmed my expectations but hopefully the guys that are coming in can lessen the impact and the defense is as good as it was last year.

    On the offensive side Palmer just needs to continue where he left off at the end of last year rather than his interception riddled first half of last season. I'm really happy with the receiver group, the two Browns have really played well in pre-season and should give Palmer some new options also the tight-ends are all good options.

    So all in all I guess I'm starting to get pumped for the season - can't wait for Monday night! Go Cards!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    Gday lads... MNF should be a banger this week. Hate that I don't get to see it until Tue night though. I see you as a real solid team but with a QB who can be v good or downright dire. I'm hoping it's the latter. Coming up againt Larry and Brown will be a nice opening test for our new corners i.e. Flowers and Verrett.

    Watched your preseason game 3 to see what's coming. Thought your O line looked much better than it was last year, esp on LHS.

    Roll on Tues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    Leslie91 wrote: »
    Roll on Tues.

    Yep Roll on Tuesday indeed!

    Yeah Veldheer is a big improvement at LT for us - it's a pity Cooper hasn't panned out at LG as I had high hopes for him. I think on offense we should be okay.

    The defense is where there are a lot of unanswered questions but a I would have confidence in DC Bowles to have them at a high level.

    All in all I expect a shootout with the home-field advantage and our Defense hopefully improving as the game goes on a slim Cards victory 31-27 is my prediction. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭kingcobra


    To say the Cards have had it a little tough with injuries is pretty apt, if not an understatement. But I sh*t my pants today when I see Ellington could be out for some time due to a foot injury.
    @mikejurecki
    Andre Ellington aggravated his left foot in practice on Thursday, underwent an MRI, hearing he could be out extended period of time.

    It's pretty hard to gauge how long he'll be out but it seems like it has got to be a few games at the very least. I can't wait til the Monday night game but wow, the Cards have lost a few key players :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    kingcobra wrote: »
    To say the Cards have had it a little tough with injuries is pretty apt, if not an understatement. But I sh*t my pants today when I see Ellington could be out for some time due to a foot injury.

    Looks like Ellington might play tonight - they are saying game time decision.
    Hope he plays because he is our only running back that is a receiving threat too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    dougal wrote: »
    Looks like Ellington might play tonight - they are saying game time decision.
    Hope he plays because he is our only running back that is a receiving threat too.

    Wow that would be big. I would imagine our defensive game plan focused on Ellington quite a bit and him not being there was to our advantage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    Floods in Phoenix have caused freeways and schools to be closed.
    The game will be okay - roof was closed for the rains and the field brought in.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    So I should bet my money on San Diego tonight eh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    Fair play lads... wondering did we lose it or you win it though?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭j8wk2feszrnpao


    kryogen wrote: »
    So I should bet my money on San Diego tonight eh
    Hope you didn't kryogen :)
    A good and fully deserved win for the Cards over an overrated SD team.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    Leslie91 wrote: »
    Fair play lads... wondering did we lose it or you win it though?

    Haven't watched the game yet but looking at the stats it looks like home field advantage and the Cards D kept us in it and the offence stopped the mistakes to pull out the win.

    SD won the turnover count 2-1 and blocked a punt so I'm happy enough with the win taking that into account.

    Need to watch the game later to see how we looked overall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    dougal wrote: »
    Haven't watched the game yet but looking at the stats it looks like home field advantage and the Cards D kept us in it and the offence stopped the mistakes to pull out the win.

    SD won the turnover count 2-1 and blocked a punt so I'm happy enough with the win taking that into account.

    Need to watch the game later to see how we looked overall.

    We couldn't get to grips with your defensive front, u kinda bullied us there but we still had the winning of the game and blew it. Still think we can do the Seahawks for ya.

    Btw munstermagic overrated by whom?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    Leslie91 wrote: »
    We couldn't get to grips with your defensive front, u kinda bullied us there but we still had the winning of the game and blew it. Still think we can do the Seahawks for ya.

    Watched the condensed Game pass there at lunch.
    First half was very sloppy for both teams - Cards moved the ball but couldn't convert. The Chargers had a good drive to start the 2nd half but other than that didn't look great. The Cards defense was good overall especially in the 4th when they got a lot of pressure on Rivers!
    Michael Floyd had a great game really came up with some big plays.
    Palmer was lucky on a couple of throws but when it mattered he played well.
    Ellington didn't look 100% but made a few nice plays. Taylor did well when he came in - I like the way he hid in the corner of the endzone for 5 mins on the TD! ;)

    All in all an okay start and positive signs - Palmer hit 11 different receivers but it was a bit worrying that Fitz didn't see much of the ball.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭kingcobra


    I thought Palmer had a pretty good game, he performed very well when it really mattered and it was reassuring to know that he's able to use his legs every so often!

    Larry Foote had a great game as well and he seemed like he very capable in filling Washington's boots. The Cardinals performance wasn't awe-inspiring but it's good knowing the injuries/suspensions seemingly haven't affected the team too much, if at all!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    kingcobra wrote: »
    I thought Palmer had a pretty good game, he performed very well when it really mattered and it was reassuring to know that he's able to use his legs every so often!

    Larry Foote had a great game as well and he seemed like he very capable in filling Washington's boots. The Cardinals performance wasn't awe-inspiring but it's good knowing the injuries/suspensions seemingly haven't affected the team too much, if at all!

    I heard BA gave Palmer a game ball for rushing 29 yards in the game! His scramble at the start of the game winning drive was big. I thought he did a good job of evading the rush too.

    Larry Foote had a great game but Minter was a non-factor.
    More bad news coming out this week that Abrahams is considering retirement and that his head isn't in the game. We really need an OLB to step up and get to the QB or we are going to be putting the secondary under a lot of pressure!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    dougal wrote: »
    More bad news coming out this week that Abrahams is considering retirement and that his head isn't in the game. We really need an OLB to step up and get to the QB or we are going to be putting the secondary under a lot of pressure!

    Team expects update on Abrahams in the next 24 hours but I would say he is done. As I said we need someone to step up and soon as yesterdays game showed.

    The game really turned on Ginn's Punt return. Up to that point we had been looking poor on defence (the refs were calling everything in the secondary - which didn't help either team). After the return the Giants just imploded, fumbles, dropped passes galore and we were lucky to get the W.

    Stanton played well considering - no mistakes and made some big throws at times. Ellington was excellent all day and really could have gone over 100 yards. And great game from our rookie kicker - 100 per cent can't ask for more!

    Next week is going to be tough - we need to be able to get pressure on Kaepernick. Hopefully Palmer is back and the offence is a bit more in sync!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭kingcobra


    dougal wrote: »
    Team expects update on Abrahams in the next 24 hours but I would say he is done. As I said we need someone to step up and soon as yesterdays game showed.

    The game really turned on Ginn's Punt return. Up to that point we had been looking poor on defence (the refs were calling everything in the secondary - which didn't help either team). After the return the Giants just imploded, fumbles, dropped passes galore and we were lucky to get the W.

    Stanton played well considering - no mistakes and made some big throws at times. Ellington was excellent all day and really could have gone over 100 yards. And great game from our rookie kicker - 100 per cent can't ask for more!

    Next week is going to be tough - we need to be able to get pressure on Kaepernick. Hopefully Palmer is back and the offence is a bit more in sync!

    John Abraham will be returning for the rest of season so hopefully he'll add a lot to the pass rush if he's able to play against the 49'ers.

    I was really really disappointed with the secondary from the Giants game, especially considering that's probably one of the defense's strengths at the minute.
    Fortunately, Stanton looked pretty solid considering he hasn't played a game in 3+ years. However, the team really needs Palmer to come back in order to get to the playoffs. At least we've a bit of breathing room with the 49'ers and Seahawks losses over the weekend.

    With all that said, it's pretty cool to be able to say there were plenty of faults in the team despite the two score win. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    kingcobra wrote: »
    John Abraham will be returning for the rest of season so hopefully he'll add a lot to the pass rush if he's able to play against the 49'ers.

    I was really really disappointed with the secondary from the Giants game, especially considering that's probably one of the defense's strengths at the minute.
    Fortunately, Stanton looked pretty solid considering he hasn't played a game in 3+ years. However, the team really needs Palmer to come back in order to get to the playoffs. At least we've a bit of breathing room with the 49'ers and Seahawks losses over the weekend.

    With all that said, it's pretty cool to be able to say there were plenty of faults in the team despite the two score win. :D

    Fingers crossed that when Abraham does get back on the field he will get up to speed straight away but I think we need to get some pass rush from somewhere else too. It's definitely affecting the secondary's play!

    Big game now Sunday - a win would put us in a great spot going into the bye week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭kingcobra


    But of course...Johnathan Dwyer has to go and get involved in a domestic abuse case despite all the furor about it the last couple of weeks. Ellington didn't participate in practice yesterday either so we're down to just two healthy RBs, Taylor and Hughes, who've only had a couple of carries combined this year.


    But we'll still beat the 49'ers regardless :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    kingcobra wrote: »
    But of course...Johnathan Dwyer has to go and get involved in a domestic abuse case despite all the furor about it the last couple of weeks. Ellington didn't participate in practice yesterday either so we're down to just two healthy RBs, Taylor and Hughes, who've only had a couple of carries combined this year.


    But we'll still beat the 49'ers regardless :cool:

    The Dwyer incident happened in July not that it makes it any better!

    Ellington is hopefully just resting his injured foot and will practice later in the week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    kingcobra wrote: »
    But we'll still beat the 49'ers regardless :cool:

    I wasn't too confident of this going in at halftime but Stanton really picked it up a level in the second half and the defense got tough when it needed to.

    Excellent game by John Brown - he was wide open for both TD's and Stanton found him well. Was really impressed with Stanton's deep throws he really gets some air on them. Carlson has been a great addition to the team at TE too he is proving a great outlet. I am still worried by how little Fitz is getting involved in the game - his fumble was so unlike him and I think he needs to be targeted more to get him in the flow.

    The FG block was big at the time as it kept the 49'ers at arms reach and put extra pressure on Kaepernick. Also the headbutt by Boldin really helped put them on the back foot on that drive! What a stupid thing for a veteran like him to do!

    So 3-0 going into the bye week without really firing on all cylinders is a good place to be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 467 ✭✭DaithiMa


    Great win tonight. We have a serious team. Arians is a top class coach.

    Okay, Cowboys were missing Romo, but we were missing our own starting QB for three games and managed to win two. We were desperately unlucky not to make the playoffs last year at 10-6, and with our end of season form I was convinced we would have got to the Superbowl if we had of made the playoffs. Arians has set his stall out to keep it in our own hands this year, and it looks like the plan is working.

    The best thing about this season, in my opinion, is that we are yet to play to our full potential. We are worst in the league on pass defence. Worst!! Yet we have the best record. 7-1. We are winning games by the bare minimum (until tonight) and just doing enough. If we start to get a few more sacks we will be hard to stop. I think we can only improve.

    Mathieu is getting back to what he was last year. Palmer is excelling. Interceptions are the exception now and not the rule. Fitzgerald is starting to come into form. Floyd has been quiet but has it in him. Frostee Rucker/Larry Foote have been immense. Cromartie has 3 picks in 2 games. John Brown has been a revelation (just needs to cut out the drops) Even the rookie kicker has excelled. 100% record!! And Ellington? A fcuking rocket haha!!

    Am looking forward to the remainder of the season. Hopefully we can get to the playoffs without any major injuries. If we can do that we have a chance. We can beat anyone on our day. Especially at home. G'Wan the fcukin Cardinals!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭dougal


    DaithiMa wrote: »
    Great win tonight. We have a serious team. Arians is a top class coach.

    This team seems to be able to make a big play when the chips are down. All 4 touchdowns came on 3rd down plays, the 4th down stop of Murray and Honey Badgers interception were all huge. I nearly forgot the FG block - Bethel must be closing in on league records on blocks. I still can't understand how PP got caught on that return though, great play by Witten in fairness.

    Arians really is doing an amazing coaching job - the team is playing at a consistently high level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 835 ✭✭✭kingcobra


    I think it's pretty astounding how we're the worst ranked pass defense. I'd be expecting the Cards to be at least average at worst. Considering we have one of the best corners in the league in Peterson (although he has been relatively poor recently), Mathieu, Cromartie and Bucannon, you'd think the secondary wouldn't be such a weakness, statistically speaking, for the team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Phoenix Park


    New three year deal to be announced later tonight for Palmer it seems.


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