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Dog prices about to collapse ?

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  • 13-08-2020 10:35pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭


    Wondering what people thoughts are on prices of dogs nowadays ? Friend looking to pick a puppy up and prices have risen four fold since Covid . I could not get my head around this Dogs traditionally 350 euro now being advertised for 1400 euro . I told him to hold off . The law of demand dictates all . Because prices have increased so much supply will be increased as a result (breeders looking to cash in ) . With kids going back to school and some sort of normality resuming will this lead to an inevitable drop in demand and with the increase in supply dog prices could be about to collapse ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Rescue, best way as you're not contributing to the madness.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    How about not buying from a breeder and rescue a dog that needs a home?

    Honestly, we have had 2 rescues and they have been fantastic pets for the whole family


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,438 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    By buying a puppy you’re contributing to the problem. Go to a rescue centre.


  • Registered Users Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Typer Monkey


    It's very difficult to adopt a dog when you have small children. I've been trying for months now with no joy, rescues won't seem to consider you. Most of the dogs profiles stipulate adults only home or one with teenage children. A very nice lady in <snip> told me they'd only consider us for a puppy due to us having a 4 year old and that they don't get many puppies in. I understand the rationale behind it but it's a shame


  • Registered Users Posts: 501 ✭✭✭tbayers


    How about not buying from a breeder and rescue a dog that needs a home?

    Honestly, we have had 2 rescues and they have been fantastic pets for the whole family

    Have a particular interest in Old English Sheepdogs. Couldn't get one from a rescue. Breeder we got it from ran an exceptionally good operation. Fantastic extremely spacious conditions and very clean. Minimal litters. Don't tar all breeders with the same brush, they play a part too. Unfortunately getting a rescue dog is very hard these days, a lot of hoops to jump through (something I agree with to avoid getting into wrong hands but it has its negatives too, unfortunately).


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It's very difficult to adopt a dog when you have small children. I've been trying for months now with no joy, rescues won't seem to consider you. Most of the dogs profiles stipulate adults only home or one with teenage children. A very nice lady in <snip> told me they'd only consider us for a puppy due to us having a 4 year old and that they don't get many puppies in. I understand the rationale behind it but it's a shame

    <snip>, there's your issue.

    We would still be waiting if we didn't abandon them and go to the pound. No kids, not allowed work full time, must have a great big garden. The barriers that crowd put up are insane when the reality is dogs are being put down in pounds.

    Go to the pound, talk with staff, look at dogs and take a few for a walk yourself. Bring your kids as well but obviously be careful.

    You will get a good idea what dog is tight for your family by doing that and a little research into breeds.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,020 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    It's very difficult to adopt a dog when you have small children. I've been trying for months now with no joy, rescues won't seem to consider you. Most of the dogs profiles stipulate adults only home or one with teenage children. A very nice lady in <snip> told me they'd only consider us for a puppy due to us having a 4 year old and that they don't get many puppies in. I understand the rationale behind it but it's a shame

    I’d agree with this, I’ve had 3 different fosters stay with me over the last 5 months and I wouldn’t let any of them be near kids. They are just too unpredictable.

    I’ve a rescue sitting on my lap now and he’s a lovely fella but will snap if he gets frightened, it’s understandable given his experiences but that’s it limits the homes he can be placed in, unfortunately.


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    tbayers wrote: »
    Have a particular interest in Old English Sheepdogs. Couldn't get one from a rescue. Breeder we got it from ran an exceptionally good operation. Fantastic extremely spacious conditions and very clean. Minimal litters. Don't tar all breeders with the same brush, they play a part too. Unfortunately getting a rescue dog is very hard these days, a lot of hoops to jump through (something I agree with to avoid getting into wrong hands but it has its negatives too, unfortunately).

    Excuses, excuses. They ain't breeding mutts on Valentine's day!

    Yes, they play a part, a bad part that adds to the numbers in need of adoption


  • Registered Users Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Typer Monkey


    <snip>, there's your issue.

    We would still be waiting if we didn't abandon them and go to the pound. No kids, not allowed work full time, must have a great big garden. The barriers that crowd put up are insane when the reality is dogs are being put down in pounds.

    Go to the pound, talk with staff, look at dogs and take a few for a walk yourself. Bring your kids as well but obviously be careful.

    You will get a good idea what dog is tight for your family by doing that and a little research into breeds.

    Thanks for your advise. I suppose Covid has made things more difficult in that the pounds are not open to visitors. Spotted a lurcher the other day that was child friendly so I emailed straight away but we were turned down because we didn't have another dog in the house. We'll keep trying though. Cheers again


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,732 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    Mod note
    Folks, whilst I appreciate the sentiment, this is not a rescue forum, and repeated posts advising the op to rescue rather than buy a puppy is just overkill. There's no issue with one post to point a person towards rescue as they may not have considered it... but the multiple posts are too much.
    This is a gentle reminder. Please do not reply to this post on-thread.
    Thanks,
    DBB

    Edited to add: Related to the above, there is to be no soap-boxing, or agenda-pushing. Niner leprechaun, please take note


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭monkeysnapper


    After my dog died I tried to rescue a few dogs and one of the questions was " do you have small children" to which I had to be honest and say yes .... I was turned down ...

    I'm not giving out , there are rules for the protection of the child and dog and makes sense to give dog the best chance .

    I ended up buying a 8month dog that owner couldn't keep because of a landlord issue and all turned out well ....... well it was kind of a rescue ;)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,732 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    Folks, naming of individual rescues is not permitted, as per the forum charter.
    A number of posts and quoted posts have been edited to remove a named rescue.
    Thanks,
    DBB


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I'd definitely do your homework on who and where you are buying and you are best to see the set up too, see the parents also as we did when we got our 2 labs years ago.... Best friend you'll ever have. One lasted to 10 and the other 12.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,994 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    There is a very limited need for breed dogs... Hunting & Service is all I can think there is a need for breeding...


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,090 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Rescues impose conditions that are impossible for so many family’s to comply with, making buying a pup the only option open to them,


  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭scilover


    i dont know why dogs price getting low. is it because of during quarantine, lots of dog trying to breed?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,032 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    OP your friend is looking at puppy farmer pups. Reputable breeders have not increased their prices... they also didn’t breed during lockdown restrictions so that will give an idea of what kind of breeder has pups available.
    I’ve been waiting months for a pup and while I’m hopeful I’ll have one this year ...I’ve also accepted it might be next year at this stage :( but I’m prepared to wait.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,695 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Rescues impose conditions that are impossible for so many family’s to comply with, making buying a pup the only option open to them,

    Not a picture that we experienced at all when we went looking for a rescue dog. It took time and determination, but we got a wonderful little dog, (pure breed too, it turned out) that has no issues with socialising, small kids, has a very steady temperament. Not all rescues are the damaged goods they are sometimes painted as.

    Some wonderful dogs just get ****ty owners on the first attempt.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    The issue is that unless you’re willing to wait for a good breeder to have a litter you are handing money to the likes of the _%{{^**s that were in the paper the other day with puppies eating horse manure because they had no food or water. Puppy farmers are the scum of the earth and if I could only get a dog from one of them I’d never have another dog.


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    Tabnabs wrote: »
    Not a picture that we experienced at all when we went looking for a rescue dog. It took time and determination, but we got a wonderful little dog, (pure breed too, it turned out) that has no issues with socialising, small kids, has a very steady temperament. Not all rescues are the damaged goods they are sometimes painted as.

    Some wonderful dogs just get ****ty owners on the first attempt.

    You completely misunderstood the comment.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,842 ✭✭✭daheff


    I think there's a need for breeders and for rescues.

    Some people want a particular breed...and a puppy for that breed. Very unlikely to get puppies of some popular breeds from rescues...so where do you get what you want except from a breeder.


    Like a lot of people I've also experienced a number of rescues being difficult to adopt from(or even to foster for). A lot are like in cliches and they only foster/adopt to the gang.

    I also agree that a lot of the dogs that get advertised need a lot of training... probably because they haven't been trained by their previous owner.

    So yeah I can understand people being frustrated with them.

    But they aren't all like that. A lot depends on who you can meet on the day too.


    OP to answer your question...I would think there is a price crash coming....kids back to school...sales banned from certain website etc

    Might even find more abandoned to pound/rescues now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 728 ✭✭✭bertiebomber


    there is a horrendous time coming as the bad breeders have been injecting bitches with hormones to make new litters for sale but with the collapse coming those puppies will be left to die or be drowned because feeding for them and caring for them is too much like work.

    Those breeders never clean up the bitches or give them clean bedding puppy farm puppies usually smell and have scaly dry dandruff type skin. I can spot a puppy from a puppy farm very easily.pathetic sad little creatures.
    the way we treat anmals is just appalling in ireland and what s worse is the way the garda dont give a ****.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Dubl07


    there is a horrendous time coming as the bad breeders have been injecting bitches with hormones to make new litters for sale but with the collapse coming those puppies will be left to die or be drowned because feeding for them and caring for them is too much like work.

    Those breeders never clean up the bitches or give them clean bedding puppy farm puppies usually smell and have scaly dry dandruff type skin. I can spot a puppy from a puppy farm very easily.pathetic sad little creatures.
    the way we treat anmals is just appalling in ireland and what s worse is the way the garda dont give a ****.

    I've had calls and a visit from gardai twice in the Covid period because of two attempted dog-nappings. They evidently cared a lot. The law simply isn't on their side right now and that needs to be changed. A dog isn't a garden bench or lawn-mower. Not just property but family.

    As for prices, it's supply and demand. Anyone selling dogs below market value risks seeing those same dogs being sold at or above said market value to someone not assessed by the original owner/breeder. It's not price gouging, it's for the dog's protection.

    When the kids go back to school, I'd expect to see up to 30% of the pups being brought to the shelters. Those people should never have had a pup to begin with.


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