New slurry tank with dribble bar prices

raypallas · 17-07-2020 2:25pm

westlander wrote: »

Not dribble bar...but i'll just leave this here:
https://www.farmersjournal.ie/mastek-launches-new-micro-range-557874

The price certainly isn't micro! 14k plus vat

jntsnk · 17-07-2020 2:36pm

westlander wrote: »

Not dribble bar...but i'll just leave this here:
https://www.farmersjournal.ie/mastek-launches-new-micro-range-557874

These companies have ridiculously huge profits from these implements. Pipes, rams a macerator and frame, hard to see where the money was put, in these things

dzer2 · 17-07-2020 3:48pm

jntsnk wrote: »

These companies have ridiculously huge profits from these implements. Pipes, rams a macerator and frame, hard to see where the money was put, in these things

Macerator about 3000 (not a great one) rams 500 hydraulics and electric controls 1300 pipes,shoes, brackets and frames 1800-2000 galvanized 200. Cut Fold weld and fit about a week for 2 lads 1850. Delivery and training 1000
Not much left now. Insurance nuts and bolts, electricity.

jntsnk · 17-07-2020 4:28pm

dzer2 wrote: »

Macerator about 3000 (not a great one) rams 500 hydraulics and electric controls 1300 pipes,shoes, brackets and frames 1800-2000 galvanized 200. Cut Fold weld and fit about a week for 2 lads 1850. Delivery and training 1000
Not much left now. Insurance nuts and bolts, electricity.

That’s all retail prices. Wholesale bulk purchases and agreements relate to far lower costs

dzer2 · 17-07-2020 5:26pm

jntsnk wrote: »

That’s all retail prices. Wholesale bulk purchases and agreements relate to far lower costs

Apart from the macerator which is imported and you need a licence for. The rest there is much difference in and most buy from Mchughs I have seen the prices paid by both not that much in it.

lefthooker · 14-08-2020 2:39pm

Galvanised 2250 on 800 R32 tyres
7.5m dribble bar
3 fill points
Front sight tube
Brakes, lights etc etc etc....

Abbey €35500
Major €36000 - 37000 depending on dealer

westlander · 25-08-2020 12:35am

westlander wrote: »

Not dribble bar...but i'll just leave this here:
https://www.farmersjournal.ie/mastek-launches-new-micro-range-557874

And another!
https://www.facebook.com/258403464316155/posts/1691707417652412/?vh=e&extid=lfvMnGgQ50NMguN6

New tanker from slurryquip and front mounted db.
Small money I’m sure ðŸ€”

kevthegaff · 25-08-2020 8:41am

How much is a 1600 with a dribble bar or stitcher, dont think any bigger would cope on these hills

K.G. · 02-09-2020 1:33pm

For info if you have a quote for a dribble bar/tank the price should go down around 500 e since 1 st of Sept with the vat reduction.do the r 30 tyres make a tank alot easier to pull and do they make a tank alot more unstable on hills than 28 s

Morris Moss · 02-09-2020 2:24pm

Conor tank 2500g, 7m trailing shoe, sight tube, 2 fill points, wide angle PTO, 32,500 Inc vat.

Hi spec 2600g, 7.5m shoe, sight tube, 2 fill points, w a PTO, 41,500 Inc vat.

Redrock, 43,500 same spec as hi spec.

jaymla627 · 02-09-2020 2:31pm

Morris Moss wrote: »

Conor tank 2500g, 7m trailing shoe, sight tube, 2 fill points, wide angle PTO, 32,500 Inc vat.

Hi spec 2600g, 7.5m shoe, sight tube, 2 fill points, w a PTO, 41,500 Inc vat.

Redrock, 43,500 same spec as hi spec.

Is trailing shoe chassis mounted on redrock/hispec our of the hatch

jaymla627 · 02-09-2020 2:33pm

K.G. wrote: »

For info if you have a quote for a dribble bar/tank the price should go down around 500 e since 1 st of Sept with the vat reduction.do the r 30 tyres make a tank alot easier to pull and do they make a tank alot more unstable on hills than 28 s

More stable if anything, on very steep ground here and youd have no fear of the 2600 gallon hi-spec going over make a serious difference in wet ground conditions also the 28s will plough the place compared to 30.5

hopeso · 02-09-2020 2:40pm

Morris Moss wrote: »

Conor tank 2500g, 7m trailing shoe, sight tube, 2 fill points, wide angle PTO, 32,500 Inc vat.

Hi spec 2600g, 7.5m shoe, sight tube, 2 fill points, w a PTO, 41,500 Inc vat.

Redrock, 43,500 same spec as hi spec.

All on the same wheels and tyres?

Morris Moss · 02-09-2020 2:44pm

jaymla627 wrote: »

Is trailing shoe chassis mounted on redrock/hispec our of the hatch

A frame was bolted onto the tank itself and then the trailing shoe is bolted onto that, no pressure on the back hatch itself.

Morris Moss · 02-09-2020 2:47pm

hopeso wrote: »

All on the same wheels and tyres?

Yeah all on 30.5 R32s

jaymla627 · 02-09-2020 2:49pm

Morris Moss wrote: »

A frame was bolted onto the tank itself and then the trailing shoe is bolted onto that, no pressure on the back hatch itself.

Should be mounted on a 4 point linkage for that kind of money, bought a ex-demo galvanised 2600 hi-spec spec the same as above with no t-shoe but set up for a 4 point linkage for 19k incl vat in 17, some price rises since

farmertipp · 02-09-2020 3:04pm

Morris Moss wrote: »

Conor tank 2500g, 7m trailing shoe, sight tube, 2 fill points, wide angle PTO, 32,500 Inc vat.

Hi spec 2600g, 7.5m shoe, sight tube, 2 fill points, w a PTO, 41,500 Inc vat.

Redrock, 43,500 same spec as hi spec.

are they paint or galvanized?

visatorro · 02-09-2020 3:26pm

kevthegaff wrote: »

How much is a 1600 with a dribble bar or stitcher, dont think any bigger would cope on these hills

hard to see it being much cheaper, still has to support the dribble bar etc. if your turning into paddocks off a lane and facing the right way for the hill would the size of the tank make any difference?

kevthegaff · 02-09-2020 3:54pm

visatorro wrote: »

hard to see it being much cheaper, still has to support the dribble bar etc. if your turning into paddocks off a lane and facing the right way for the hill would the size of the tank make any difference?

Ya the max me or contractor can pull on most paddocks here is 1600

Morris Moss · 02-09-2020 4:00pm

farmertipp wrote: »

are they paint or galvanized?

Painted, Conor was 3,200 to galvanize, don't know how much the others were

Morris Moss · 02-09-2020 4:13pm

jaymla627 wrote: »

Should be mounted on a 4 point linkage for that kind of money, bought a ex-demo galvanised 2600 hi-spec spec the same as above with no t-shoe but set up for a 4 point linkage for 19k incl vat in 17, some price rises since

That was the agquip shoe, lad in hi spec said they have their own trailing shoe as well, but he had nothing in the yard with it

farmertipp · 02-09-2020 5:26pm

has anyone any opinion on autofill ?

westlander · 02-09-2020 8:32pm

Has anyone any experience of the dribble bar on the newrock setup?
It’s a horizontal macerator as opposed too a vertical one. Don’t know anyone that has one to get feedback whereas Mastek and Slurryquip’s are well proven(vertical macerator)
I hope I haven’t then mixed up ie horizontal/vertical.
It’s the opposite to the other two anyhow.:rolleyes:

Farmer_3650 · 02-09-2020 10:01pm

Are Slurrykat tankers cheap at the moment? Alot of lads buying slurrykat tankers around here and we are only 15 mins from Major steel in ballyhaunis. I always thought slurrykat were expensive, but they must be reasonable value with so many new tankers around the area.

Reggie. · 02-09-2020 10:03pm

Farmer_3650 wrote: »

Are Slurrykat tankers cheap at the moment? Alot of lads buying slurrykat tankers around here and we are only 15 mins from Major steel in ballyhaunis. I always thought slurrykat were expensive, but they must be reasonable value with so many new tankers around the area.

Major are a serious price

westlander · 02-09-2020 10:56pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Major are a serious price

34500 inc vat for a 2400 gallon galvanised major
Bn7 181 Nortec Tyres 800s
11k pump
Wide angle pto
Full sight glass
Lamps, beacon mud flaps
7.5 mtr dB their own one.
That was direct off major
That was near 6 months ago now

westlander · 04-09-2020 12:38pm

Good vid here of tanker build from start to finish: https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=p_y68toazYM

See at 1.35 onwards in the video there looks to be 2 different galvanised colours. One is really shiny galvanised and the other is a duller galvanised tank.
Must be when it dries it goes to the duller colour is it ?

SuperTortoise · 04-09-2020 7:20pm

westlander wrote: »

Good vid here of tanker build from start to finish: https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=p_y68toazYM

See at 1.35 onwards in the video there looks to be 2 different galvanised colours. One is really shiny galvanised and the other is a duller galvanised tank.
Must be when it dries it goes to the duller colour is it ?

Difference in colours is down to either the duller one being left out in the weather for a few weeks before being finished or just a fresh block of zinc dropped into the galvanising tank for the shinier finish.

richie123 · 26-09-2020 3:41pm

lefthooker wrote: »

Galvanised 2250 on 800 R32 tyres
7.5m dribble bar
3 fill points
Front sight tube
Brakes, lights etc etc etc....

Abbey €35500
Major €36000 - 37000 depending on dealer

Was that plus vat can you remember?

Iloverain · 29-09-2020 3:50pm

Was thinking of getting one with the tams grant . When is the new tranche of tams opening? Is it 60%you get of 40000 if you are a young farmer.

lefthooker · 30-09-2020 12:18pm

richie123 wrote: »

Was that plus vat can you remember?

All figures are VAT inc.
Of course prices may differ now due to the 21% rate

K.G. · 30-09-2020 1:38pm

Iloverain wrote: »

Was thinking of getting one with the tams grant . When is the new tranche of tams opening? Is it 60%you get of 40000 if you are a young farmer.

On a tank costing 40 k you subtract 7 k vat and you get a grant of roughly 20 k so it ll cost you just 20 k

Injuryprone · 30-09-2020 4:03pm

K.G. wrote: »

On a tank costing 40 k you subtract 7 k vat and you get a grant of roughly 20 k so it ll cost you just 20 k

In most cases, it'll be 27k

K.G. · 01-10-2020 8:57am

Injuryprone wrote: »

In most cases, it'll be 27k

You mean at 40 %?
40k -vat21% =33k
33k ×.4 =, 13.2k +7 k in vat is 20.2 k

Morris Moss · 01-10-2020 9:35am

K.G. wrote: »

You mean at 40 %?
40k -vat21% =33k
33k ×.4 =, 13.2k +7 k in vat is 20.2 k

Can you claim vat back on a slurry tank? Didn't think you could?

Mooooo · 01-10-2020 9:40am

Unless tis bolted down or your vat registered there is no vat reclaim I thought

Injuryprone · 01-10-2020 9:45am

K.G. wrote: »

You mean at 40 %?
40k -vat21% =33k
33k ×.4 =, 13.2k +7 k in vat is 20.2 k

Yeah, my bad. Am used to working with 40%

Morris Moss · 01-10-2020 12:24pm

Mooooo wrote: »

Unless tis bolted down or your vat registered there is no vat reclaim I thought

Yeah think your right, unless your vat registered obviously

hopeso · 01-10-2020 1:20pm

Mooooo wrote: »

Unless tis bolted down or your vat registered there is no vat reclaim I thought

With the price of them, they'd nearly want to be bolted down! :rolleyes:

westlander · 03-10-2020 12:31pm

What’s the orange pipe for here is it so the blow off from the valve doesn’t hit the tanker dish ?
Wouldn’t see many like this

hopeso · 03-10-2020 1:32pm

westlander wrote: »

What’s the orange pipe for here is it so the blow off from the valve doesn’t hit the tanker dish ?
Wouldn’t see many like this

Yeah, it looks like it's to drain whatever oil comes out of the relief valve

richie123 · 04-10-2020 12:31pm

I had a look at the Conor 7 m dribble bar lately.
Have to say it's a very simple light setup..lovely job now.

richie123 · 04-10-2020 12:31pm

I had a look at the Conor 7 m dribble bar lately.
Have to say it's a very simple light setup..lovely job now.

westlander · 04-10-2020 1:25pm

Kme another new entrant for the db market :
https://www.facebook.com/groups/520305124707997/permalink/4484602791611524/

awaywithyou · 04-10-2020 5:09pm

westlander wrote: »

Kme another new entrant for the db market :
https://www.facebook.com/groups/520305124707997/permalink/4484602791611524/

A good Kerry company near Listowel.... I have heard having the mascerator in that position is a disaster... the first dribble bars/trailing shoes that came out in 07/08 had the mascerators that way and most if not all manufacturers now have them upright

westlander · 04-10-2020 5:56pm

awaywithyou wrote: »

A good Kerry company near Listowel.... I have heard having the mascerator in that position is a disaster... the first dribble bars/trailing shoes that came out in 07/08 had the mascerators that way and most if not all manufacturers now have them upright

A horizontal macerator...Joskin have similar. Not meant to be great if there’s stones as they have nowhere to go only down the pipes and get stuck. I was often wondering the same with these types they just don’t seem as popular where baled silage is concerned.

degetme · 05-10-2020 8:21pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Belmac 2500 here. Cost 16k Inc vat last year. Put a slurryquip dribble bar on it for 12k inc vat. So 28k total

Are these prices before vat?

Got a price of 40k inc vat for 2250 galvanized abbey 7.5m trailing shoe. I could get a grant of 60% on department reference costs of 32k excluding vat. But I was told I would have to lower my reference cost to get the grant.

Reggie. · 05-10-2020 9:03pm

degetme wrote: »

Are these prices before vat?

Got a price of 40k inc vat for 2250 galvanized abbey 7.5m trailing shoe. I could get a grant of 60% on department reference costs of 32k excluding vat. But I was told I would have to lower my reference cost to get the grant.

All inc vat

degetme · 05-10-2020 9:08pm

Reggie. wrote: »

All inc vat

I see that now. I should have read it in more detail

westlander · 06-10-2020 5:46pm

For longevity are the tanks with the chassis supporting the barrell like major, hi-spec and Conor (to name a few)better than the ones without ?
Redrock and Belmac for example don’t have a chassis on their big single axle tankers but most others do.
Are there any advantages to ones without chassis suppose they will be lighter to pull that’s about all..

New slurry tank with dribble bar prices

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