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Labour Saving and General Guntering

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  • #6152
    Grueller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,259 ✭✭✭Grueller


    SuperTortoise wrote: »
    Could i ask as to where you purchased the swirls and other bits? I have a few handrails to make and i'll buy in the bits and bobs and put them together myself over the winter, Thanks.

    Talitech in Cork are as good as any for this sort of stuff


  • #6153
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,202 ✭✭✭emaherx


    SuperTortoise wrote: »
    Could i ask as to where you purchased the swirls and other bits? I have a few handrails to make and i'll buy in the bits and bobs and put them together myself over the winter, Thanks.

    https://www.talitech.com/product-category/decorative-ironwork/
    Grueller wrote: »
    Talitech in Cork are as good as any for this sort of stuff

    I agree. :D


  • #6154
    vincenzolorenzo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,234 ✭✭✭vincenzolorenzo


    Say my name wrote: »
    Buy a 4,500 litre plastic water tank. Pipe the rainwater from the shed roofs into it.
    Plumb up inch or inch and a quarter pipe and a 2.6 kw water pump to the tank and then have your yellow inch pipe to wash down with the nozzle lock head.
    That's the exact set up I have for washing down the parlour.

    The big water tank is essential as it won't rain the whole time plus rainwater is better than treated mains for land application from an ecological point of view.

    I bought that pump at an auction where it was piped from a water trough to wash concrete in a finishing shed.

    Could you divert washings from the machine into the tank?


  • #6155
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    vincenzolorenzo wrote: »
    Could you divert washings from the machine into the tank?

    Could do anything. :p

    But no I wouldn't. You'd only occasionally empty it completely and the washings would go stinking in the tank and then you're trying to wash down the parlour with that?
    I've the plate cooler running into as well as the rainwater. Ah it's enough.


  • #6156
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Well this made my day. Our old Vicegrips turned up after more than 6 months. Couldn't figure where it went to. We have it over 30 years.

    'If I ventured in the slipstream, Between the viaducts of your dream'



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  • #6157
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,202 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Little bit of oil,
    Be grand :D


  • #6158
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    emaherx wrote: »
    Little bit of oil,
    Be grand :D
    I'll soak it in diesel. Working fine as it is anyway. 😁

    'If I ventured in the slipstream, Between the viaducts of your dream'



  • #6159
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    I'm putting up a small shed at the moment, adding another bay to a shed I have with a curved haybarn style roof. There is a small yard at the side of the shed and I will roof this. The shed was built mid 80's. A cavity block on the side and plastered flush to the uprights. I checked the line of the shed wall and yard wall today and it's only out less than 1mm over the entire length.
    I remember the guy building it at the time and everyone saying what a tasty job he did but still..........
    It makes my job easier anyway.

    'If I ventured in the slipstream, Between the viaducts of your dream'



  • #6160
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,408 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Anyone got any recommendations for a soldering station?
    My current soldering iron is low wattage and really only meant for electronics. I was trying to solder a broken cable on the baler, but the iron could not heat the wire sufficiently to make the solder run.

    Was looking to get a variable heat version - any recommendations?


  • #6161
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,202 ✭✭✭emaherx


    funkey_monkey wrote: »
    Anyone got any recommendations for a soldering station?
    My current soldering iron is low wattage and really only meant for electronics. I was trying to solder a broken cable on the baler, but the iron could not heat the wire sufficiently to make the solder run.

    Was looking to get a variable heat version - any recommendations?

    By cable, I presume you mean copper cable for the baler electrics.

    I use one like this on at my desk at work, it's the same one I have had since college. Maplin used to sell them here.
    https://www.bnrindustrial.com.au/products/doss-zd929b-soldering-station

    But in my tool bag I just keep a 25W fixed temperature Antex soldering iron. They are available in various wattages from 10W to 100W.


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  • #6162
    kollegeknight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    I’ve a cow box that the axles are rotten and So is the floor. The rest of it is on good shape. Should I try get it sorted?

    I wouldn’t be using it on the main road If it wasn’t road legal, but might be handy moving the odd animal to a far of meadow.

    If I can’t use it as a cow box, I was thinking of converting into a creep feeder.


  • #6163
    Figerty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭Figerty


    emaherx wrote: »
    By cable, I presume you mean copper cable for the baler electrics.

    I use one like this on at my desk at work, it's the same one I have had since college. Maplin used to sell them here.
    https://www.bnrindustrial.com.au/products/doss-zd929b-soldering-station

    But in my tool bag I just keep a 25W fixed temperature Antex soldering iron. They are available in various wattages from 10W to 100W.

    I use one of these. Pretty good. Nice to be able to take this to the problem.. not the problem to the soldering iron!

    https://ie-jbtools.glopalstore.com/portosol-pp-1k-soldering-iron-kit/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIz5eU2pGZ6wIVzOeyCh1sVgzaEAQYAiABEgLjjvD_BwE


  • #6164
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,408 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    emaherx wrote: »
    By cable, I presume you mean copper cable for the baler electrics.

    Yeah, its a heavier cable than the 7-core and the wee iron isn't fit to heat it to make the solder flow. Taped up for the weekends baling, but I'd like to get it done right at some stage.

    Was looking at one of these which I think would do my job:
    Soldering Station - Amazon - #1

    Soldering Station - Amazon - #2

    They seem much of a muchness. Not sure if the ones wit the hot air gun would be of much use to me - unless I used it for heat shrink - but then I do have a hot air gun.


  • #6165
    mayota
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭mayota


    kollegeknight wrote: »
    I’ve a cow box that the axles are rotten and So is the floor. The rest of it is on good shape. Should I try get it sorted?

    I wouldn’t be using it on the main road If it wasn’t road legal, but might be handy moving the odd animal to a far of meadow.

    If I can’t use it as a cow box, I was thinking of converting into a creep feeder.

    Put it on DoneDeal.


  • #6166
    K.G.
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,258 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Well this made my day. Our old Vicegrips turned up after more than 6 months. Couldn't figure where it went to. We have it over 30 years.

    if you have the same vice grip 30 years you are either
    a lazy devil that does nothing
    ocd/anal personality at minding stuff
    you re neighbours dont like you and never borrow off you
    a proper mechanic
    must confess i use one alot and would buy one a year,find you either have 3 or one at any given time.


  • #6167
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,202 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Figerty wrote: »
    I use one of these. Pretty good. Nice to be able to take this to the problem.. not the problem to the soldering iron!

    https://ie-jbtools.glopalstore.com/portosol-pp-1k-soldering-iron-kit/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIz5eU2pGZ6wIVzOeyCh1sVgzaEAQYAiABEgLjjvD_BwE

    I have one of those still prefer my Antex with an extension lead if anywhere near the workshop. Great if power not available though.


  • #6168
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    K.G. wrote: »
    if you have the same vice grip 30 years you are either
    a lazy devil that does nothing
    ocd/anal personality at minding stuff
    you re neighbours dont like you and never borrow off you
    a proper mechanic
    must confess i use one alot and would buy one a year,find you either have 3 or one at any given time.

    I have a proper set of wrenches so stopped using vice grips on nuts a long time ago. It's kept on the tractor with a hammer to cover most emergencies when needed.
    What the hell are you doing with them, if buying one a year?

    'If I ventured in the slipstream, Between the viaducts of your dream'



  • #6169
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,202 ✭✭✭emaherx


    I've a few hand tools like that the past 30 or so years, wouldn't be particularly OCD about tools but some are just used so often they are always to hand. I get particularly annoyed if I cant find my ball and pein hammer, its hard to get another thats weighted right with a decent length handle.

    I reckon a lad that buys a vice grips regulalry needs a new one everytime they break a handle or a lever on a machine. Which reminds me I currently have one holding a rear view mirror in place on one of the tractors and have the new mirror arm sitting in the kitchen for at least the last month, I should probably fix that. :D


  • #6170
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,202 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Got the new gates hanging last night.

    50224921316_5bca2f8015_c.jpgIMG_20200814_082334 by Farmer Ed's Shed, on Flickr


  • #6171
    K.G.
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,258 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    I have a proper set of wrenches so stopped using vice grips on nuts a long time ago. It's kept on the tractor with a hammer to cover most emergencies when needed.
    What the hell are you doing with them, if buying one a year?

    ah just a bit of everything ,fencing,water joints, hyd hoses,mechanicing,even as welding earth clamp.they just go missing with us.dont for one second be under the illusion that this is a perfect yard


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  • #6172
    lakill Farm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    I have a proper set of wrenches so stopped using vice grips on nuts a long time ago. It's kept on the tractor with a hammer to cover most emergencies when needed.
    What the hell are you doing with them, if buying one a year?

    a good size adjustable is handy also and Toyota screw driver(Flat one end, Philips other end)


  • #6173
    Grueller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,259 ✭✭✭Grueller


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    I have a proper set of wrenches so stopped using vice grips on nuts a long time ago. It's kept on the tractor with a hammer to cover most emergencies when needed.
    What the hell are you doing with them, if buying one a year?

    I have 4. I used them on cows tails in the parlour when training heifers this year. Stops kicking instantly


  • #6174
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,202 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Had a bit of an engine oil leak after repairing the balancer issue....

    50235987231_f71f2837d2_z.jpg20200816_135120 by Farmer Ed's Shed, on Flickr

    sombody had it plugged with some chemical metal filler. :rolleyes:
    I'd complain but I've had this tractor for 20 years and it never leaked till now :D

    50235985971_15d1a7e8d5_c.jpgIMG_20200816_135317 by Farmer Ed's Shed, on Flickr


  • #6175
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,202 ✭✭✭emaherx


    I also finished off my solar powered pump.

    50230158226_a0d01a81f3_c.jpgIMG_20200815_165446 by Farmer Ed's Shed, on Flickr

    50229513518_3b615a6b9f_c.jpgIMG_20200815_165244 by Farmer Ed's Shed, on Flickr


    All ready for depolyment. Hopefully set it up in the field at the weekend.
    50230158046_7f1472b28e_c.jpgIMG_20200815_180558 by Farmer Ed's Shed, on Flickr


  • #6176
    Figerty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭Figerty


    Wet day job,.. No stand leg for the Haybob.
    Aldi wheel barrow wheel about €10.
    30mm Gavanise blue band pipe. Cut at the correct angle to make the wheel roughly on centre.
    Pin for an arm made the axle. Clip to hold it in.

    Welded a bolt on the top to steer with spanner if needs be.. but it works fine without it.


  • #6177
    Jb1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,509 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Figerty wrote: »
    Wet day job,.. No stand leg for the Haybob.
    Aldi wheel barrow wheel about €10.
    30mm Gavanise blue band pipe. Cut at the correct angle to make the wheel roughly on centre.
    Pin for an arm made the axle. Clip to hold it in.

    Welded a bolt on the top to steer with spanner if needs be.. but it works fine without it.

    How do you like the side delivery rake?


  • #6178
    Lime Tree Farm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Figerty wrote: »
    Wet day job,.. No stand leg for the Haybob.
    Aldi wheel barrow wheel about €10.
    30mm Gavanise blue band pipe. Cut at the correct angle to make the wheel roughly on centre.
    Pin for an arm made the axle. Clip to hold it in.

    Welded a bolt on the top to steer with spanner if needs be.. but it works fine without it.

    Well at least I now know where my missing beer keg is!


  • #6179
    Figerty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭Figerty


    Jb1989 wrote: »
    How do you like the side delivery rake?

    Comes out of the shed once a year to pull silage/hay out from the walls.. then it goes back in the shed... I thought it deserved news wheels since the first lot in 1985!

    I found a scrap one a few years ago and have spares for it. It rattles and bangs a bit but for one hour it works away.


  • #6180
    Figerty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭Figerty


    Lime Tree Farm wrote: »
    Well at least I now know where my missing beer keg is!

    You must be missing four of them... .The new wheel makes the beer keg redundant..


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  • #6181
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,202 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Jb1989 wrote: »
    How do you like the side delivery rake?

    It always ends up being about the background :D


  • #6182
    timple23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭timple23


    Figerty wrote: »
    Wet day job,.. No stand leg for the Haybob.
    Aldi wheel barrow wheel about €10.
    30mm Gavanise blue band pipe. Cut at the correct angle to make the wheel roughly on centre.
    Pin for an arm made the axle. Clip to hold it in.

    Welded a bolt on the top to steer with spanner if needs be.. but it works fine without it.

    Can you push the haybob into a corner of a shed now?


  • #6183
    Figerty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭Figerty


    timple23 wrote: »
    Can you push the haybob into a corner of a shed now?

    Yep. Can steer it like a trike,, with bad steering , but yes. I can.
    Very easy to push on concrete.


  • #6184
    patsy_mccabe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    https://twitter.com/i/status/1296747585038934017

    'If I ventured in the slipstream, Between the viaducts of your dream'



  • #6185
    stock>
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 755 ✭✭✭stock>


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1296747585038934017


    I object to this!! this is not labour saving and definitely not guntering ...............


    spotted a cattle box recently with a 7 up bottle covering the bearings where the cap had gone missing and he was moving too fast for me to get a picture..........................................................that is proper guntering..................


  • #6186
    RobinBanks
    Registered Users Posts: 946 ✭✭✭RobinBanks


    Bar using a sledge is there any other way of crimping/flattening blue band tubing. Christ it’s solid stuff. Hand about to fall off from the belting.


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  • #6187
    Reggie.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,479 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    RobinBanks wrote: »
    Bar using a sledge is there any other way of crimping/flattening blue band tubing. Christ it’s solid stuff. Hand about to fall off from the belting.

    If not too long I used the vice to crimp it


  • #6188
    Figerty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭Figerty


    RobinBanks wrote: »
    Bar using a sledge is there any other way of crimping/flattening blue band tubing. Christ it’s solid stuff. Hand about to fall off from the belting.

    Don't crimp it,, cut it and grind it,, then weld it. Crimping is ugly..
    Or get a notcher.


  • #6189
    timple23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭timple23


    ZGQyMzRlZTNiZTQzMGIxMDVlNDZmNmYyZGI2MTNmZjCfd2lng12klUa-xxg08P5RaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xNDkzNDM5NDN8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeghttps://photos.donedeal.ie/ddimg/ZGQyMzRlZTNiZTQzMGIxMDVlNDZmNmYyZGI2MTNmZjCfd2lng12klUa-xxg08P5RaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xNDkzNDM5NDN8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpegZGQyMzRlZTNiZTQzMGIxMDVlNDZmNmYyZGI2MTNmZjCfd2lng12klUa-xxg08P5RaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xNDkzNDM5NDN8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpegZGQyMzRlZTNiZTQzMGIxMDVlNDZmNmYyZGI2MTNmZjCfd2lng12klUa-xxg08P5RaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xNDkzNDM5NDN8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeg

    https://photos.donedeal.ie/ddimg/ZGQyMzRlZTNiZTQzMGIxMDVlNDZmNmYyZGI2MTNmZjCfd2lng12klUa-xxg08P5RaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xNDkzNDM5NDN8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeg

    Professional grade guntering, looks like a counterweight off a mini-digger or forklift?


  • #6190
    Nekarsulm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,219 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Yeah, looks like a fork-lift one, turned upside down.
    The back wheels would have been either side of that narrower bit.


  • #6191
    Cavanjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Figerty wrote: »
    Don't crimp it,, cut it and grind it,, then weld it. Crimping is ugly..
    Or get a notcher.

    +1 on the notcher but not worth buying if only a one off job. If you’ve a chop saw it’s very easy notch them though.


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  • #6192
    RobinBanks
    Registered Users Posts: 946 ✭✭✭RobinBanks


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    +1 on the notcher but not worth buying if only a one off job. If you’ve a chop saw it’s very easy notch them though.

    I am making a feeding barrier gate for a shed i done up. There is a good bit of crimping to be done. Would you mind explaining how to go about notching the pipes?


  • #6193
    Figerty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭Figerty


    RobinBanks wrote: »
    I am making a feeding barrier gate for a shed i done up. There is a good bit of crimping to be done. Would you mind explaining how to go about notching the pipes?

    https://toolsidee.co.uk/product/hbm-pipe-pipe-notch-P3427.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIk4-k2raz6wIVyIBQBh3vrA23EAQYASABEgKEafD_BwE

    Cheap one using holesaws. These work very well.
    If it's a 90 degree joint, cut at 45 on both side of centre line and a littl tidying with the grinder.

    Blue band is very heavy for a pipe (shears) notcher. A cheap one won't last long.


  • #6194
    Cavanjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,641 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    RobinBanks wrote: »
    I am making a feeding barrier gate for a shed i done up. There is a good bit of crimping to be done. Would you mind explaining how to go about notching the pipes?

    You just cut an angle off two edges of the end of the pipe. I’ll look for a video on YouTube and send the link. If I can’t find one I’ll pm you a picture

    https://www.google.ie/search?q=notching+tube+with+a+grinder&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-ie&client=safari#kpvalbx=_zyZEX8CJOaWf1fAPodif8AY49

    This is one way but he is making a big job of it

    https://youtu.be/CZ8nBKFdfNk
    This with the chop saw is a better method and if using a grinder you are better do it this way too. Much quicker


  • #6195
    Figerty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭Figerty


    Some guntering.
    Have welded up and repaired the king pins on the steering of the Ford 4000.
    I have also repaired the front axis pivot shafts and bushes.
    Welded up first, flapper well to grind back slowly and use the new bushes to size it.
    It's like new now.
    Bushes, and thrust bearing on both sides replaced now.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=524172&d=1598305597

    524173.jpg

    524174.jpg


  • #6196
    mythos110
    Registered Users Posts: 223 ✭✭mythos110


    AF1QipPD3ucTqg-5As_qeme65lDkong2bd_JeorMjvxF

    Why I hate working on Deere's! Had to make this "spanner" to remove the starter motor on a 3650 last night!

    524461.jpg


  • #6197
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,696 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Anyone need a new hammer?:D

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/11-Pallets-Job-Lot-1500-Tools-Hammers-Lights-Screws-Switches-Wholesale-Price/363093321547?hash=item548a0c674b:g:TkgAAOSw89BfT2tk

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #6198
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,202 ✭✭✭emaherx


    I turned a very battered old IBC into a relatively square meal bin today.

    50253516458_71db7b62a7_c.jpgIMG_20200821_151720 by Farmer Ed's Shed, on Flickr

    50324258772_574d93fc01_c.jpgIMG_20200909_172316 by Farmer Ed's Shed, on Flickr

    50323412998_ea5a47fa23_c.jpgIMG_20200909_172331 by Farmer Ed's Shed, on Flickr


  • #6199
    mr.stonewall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    emaherx wrote: »
    I turned a very battered old IBC into a relatively square meal bin today.

    50253516458_71db7b62a7_c.jpgIMG_20200821_151720 by Farmer Ed's Shed, on Flickr

    Nice job. Stick a 3x2 frame on the underside of the ply lid. Will stop it twisting over time. It's the end of plastic bags for emherx


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    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,202 ✭✭✭emaherx


    mr.stonewall wrote: »
    Nice job. Stick a 3x2 frame on the underside of the ply lid. Will stop it twisting over time. It's the end of plastic bags for emherx

    I might just do that. Thanks.


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    Lime Tree Farm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Very good. We have 2 ibr side by side in the calving shed, a full sheet of plywood across the top, used as a makeshift bench. With your design, they could easily double as storage too.


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