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€55,000 a year to stare at chick's bottoms 12 hours a day

  • 04-03-2015 1:02am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,389 ✭✭✭


    But yet nobody wants to do it..
    Job title: Chicken sexer

    Salary: £40,000 per annum

    Hours of work: 12 hours a day

    Job description: Stare at chicks’ backsides

    Despite the generous salary, nobody wants this job.

    The UK’s poultry industry is struggling to get people to determine the sex of newly-hatched chicks, and it could hit exports.

    It actually takes three years to learn the tiny differences between male and female chicks and then you’re expected to determine the sex within three to five seconds.

    That’s between 800 and ,1,200 chicks a day – plus you’re expected to have a 97-98 per cent accuracy.



    Andrew Large, chief executive of the British Poultry Council, told The Times: ‘It takes three years to train someone so they develop the sensitivity and dexterity to reliably sex the bird and a lot of people don’t want to spend that amount of training.

    ‘I think the problem is the job itself. You are spending hours every day staring at the backside of a chick. That is not seen as being attractive.

    ‘In southeast Asia a chick sexer is a high status job. In the UK it is more likely to be the butt of humour.

    Source.

    Don't think I could do it tbh, not with knowing what they do to all the male chicks.

    Would you?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,364 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    Don't think I could do it tbh

    Nonsense, I bet you've handled more cocks than most have had hot dinners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Maybe if they weren't 12 hour days people would be interested? nobody wants to work excessive hours regardless of what the job actually entails.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    I'd get bored after about two minutes and say fuggit, chances are they are split somewhere around the 50/50 mark between male and female.

    So I'd just chuck every second one down the chute and hope for the best.


    They all taste the same in a Snack Box anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,284 ✭✭✭StewartGriffin


    Unfair!

    I stare at women's bottoms for about the same amount of time, and I get NOTHING!
    :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Wide Load


    I wouldn't be able to work all day with a hard on. I'd be no use to anyone.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭RedemptionZ


    Talk about a misleading title...

    Doesn't seem to much of a story there? The job isn't seen as particularly satosfactory because of what it actually entails and requires 3 years of presumably poorly paid training. Pretty obvious there won't be a large qualified group of candidates to choose from.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭HoratiJoe


    So if you **** it you may get bird flu


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    I'd get fired, I'd eat them before they hatched. I'm a monster :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 917 ✭✭✭Mr_Muffin


    In Ireland this would be considered a Jobs bridge position.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 509 ✭✭✭Kelly06


    But yet nobody wants to do it..



    Don't think I could do it tbh, not with knowing what they do to all the male chicks.

    Would you?

    What do they do to them? Wait do I even want to know? It's bad right?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Kelly06 wrote: »
    What do they do to them? Wait do I even want to know? It's bad right?

    They're fed into a grinder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭Infini


    Hen, Hen, Trap, Hen, Trap, Trap, Hen, Trap...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 509 ✭✭✭Kelly06


    They're fed into a grinder.

    What!!!Why!!!

    Why don't they let them grow into chickens? I get that hens are left for laying eggs. But a chicken can be either male or female before it reaches puberty. Or so I thought anyways. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,693 ✭✭✭✭osarusan




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 224 ✭✭SoftMicro


    Could they not just genitaly modify them to be all the same sex?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 820 ✭✭✭BunkMoreland


    Mr_Muffin wrote: »
    In Ireland this would be considered a Jobs bridge position.

    JobBridge.

    Where does the "s" come from?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    Best of luck to whoever gets the job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    SoftMicro wrote: »
    Could they not just genitaly modify them to be all the same sex?


    Fowl sexist!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 224 ✭✭SoftMicro


    Fowl sexist!

    chicks with dicks?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    SoftMicro wrote: »
    chicks with dicks?

    Yes, that's more eggalitarian.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Not only is the job probably stressful but you also have the happy knowledge knowing all the males ones are sliding down a chute into a grinder. Happy work environment :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,450 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    They're fed into a grinder.

    And manufactured into what delicious product that we take for granted is made from prime chicken?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Jhcx


    So what sort of fckin chickens am I eating?

    Tbh that bloody wing thing looked the bloody same. And that's all I can think of is that Australian accent.

    Is supermacs still open? Getting a bit peckish for chicken.


  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Depraved


    Oh just put a a few big tv screens on one side of the room with soccer, American football and Top Gear playing. All the male chicks will gravitate towards that side and the female chicks away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    Maybe if they weren't 12 hour days people would be interested? nobody wants to work excessive hours regardless of what the job actually entails.

    Scarlett Johanssons private masseuse?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    They're fed into a grinder.

    Yeah, maybe the reason people don't want the job is more to do with wit watching this all day:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtA3msHGusQ (Chick Grinder, don't watch it if that kind of thing bothers you).

    This always made me curious as to why vegetarians eat eggs. The won't eat the chicken because killing chickens is "wrong", but they will eat the eggs, despite millions of male chickens being killed in the process of getting the eggs.

    In fairness though, gruesome as it may seem, that grinder is a pretty quick death, if I had a choice between electric chair, lethal injection, or grinder I'd pick grinder.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    I wish I hadn't went and looked up what happens to the male chicks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,796 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    Unfair!

    I stare at women's bottoms for about the same amount of time, and I get NOTHING!
    :mad:


    Sounds like you've learned something about yourself so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,063 ✭✭✭Greenmachine


    3 Year to learn, my god, if it is so hard to ID them why not wait till they are a few weeks older, to ID them, then any old fool can do it. Requires a 97-98% accuracy rate too.
    What does training involve a shock collar and an experienced chicken sexer, watch over .
    You: Male
    Chicken Sexer: Correct
    You Male:
    Sexer: Incorrect(Pushes Shocker)
    You: I was really sure that was a male.
    Sexer: Okay sorry, we call that one a draw
    You: I hate you


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    Kelly06 wrote: »
    What!!!Why!!!

    Why don't they let them grow into chickens? I get that hens are left for laying eggs. But a chicken can be either male or female before it reaches puberty. Or so I thought anyways. :(

    You thought wrong. Female chicks are not left alive to lay eggs. It is the female chickens that we eat. The males are not sold into supermarkets etc. Even though there is nothing really wrong with eating roosters, slightly more gamey taste.

    As for a chick being a male or female until puberty, you thought wrong again. That would be like saying a puppy can be a female or male until they reach puberty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,507 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Kelly06 wrote: »
    What!!!Why!!!

    Why don't they let them grow into chickens? I get that hens are left for laying eggs. But a chicken can be either male or female before it reaches puberty. Or so I thought anyways. :(
    logik wrote: »
    You thought wrong. Female chicks are not left alive to lay eggs. It is the female chickens that we eat. The males are not sold into supermarkets etc. Even though there is nothing really wrong with eating roosters, slightly more gamey taste.

    As for a chick being a male or female until puberty, you thought wrong again. That would be like saying a puppy can be a female or male until they reach puberty.


    Yeah, I had thought the males also don't grow large enough to be cost effective.

    I remember one of the processors basically saying "if you know someone who want X thousand male chicks then let me know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    This always made me curious as to why vegetarians eat eggs. The won't eat the chicken because killing chickens is "wrong", but they will eat the eggs, despite millions of male chickens being killed in the process of getting the eggs.
    Vegetarians are not really vegetarians and they will eat animal products and often animals too (such as fish) - we just tend to use the term incorrectly.

    As to why they will eat some animal products and not others, it could be for health considerations, personal taste (some people just don't like red meat) or idiocy.

    When I say idiocy, I mean emotive reasons that make it difficult for them to eat certain animals because of emotional attachment (e.g. horse, rabbit) or because of visible farming practice, but as long as the farming practice is unknown or hidden, then it's OK.

    For example, chickens will have stopped laying eggs by the time they're about 18 months old, yet their natural life span will generally be over five years. Do you think that poultry farmers feed and house chickens that produce nothing for over three years? That chickens get to 'retire' in Florida?

    So those who won't eat chicken because they don't like what happens to them, yet eat eggs are effectively supporting the same practice - you can't have one without the other, unless people would be willing to pay for those chickens to live a long and natural life - and pay 25 Euro for a half dozen eggs...

    In short, 'vegetarians' will sometimes eat eggs despite not eating chicken for the same reason that they'll post videos and photos of cute kittens on Facebook.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 509 ✭✭✭Kelly06


    logik wrote: »
    You thought wrong. Female chicks are not left alive to lay eggs. It is the female chickens that we eat. The males are not sold into supermarkets etc. Even though there is nothing really wrong with eating roosters, slightly more gamey taste.

    As for a chick being a male or female until puberty, you thought wrong again. That would be like saying a puppy can be a female or male until they reach puberty.

    Lol. What I meant was a 'chicken' is the word for the bird of either sex before it reaches maturity. After maturity it's hen or rooster.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    12 hour shift is the worst part of this, don't know why they can't split it into 3x8 rather then 2x12 shifts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Nino Brown


    For example, chickens will have stopped laying eggs by the time they're about 18 months old, yet their natural life span will generally be over five years. Do you think that poultry farmers feed and house chickens that produce nothing for over three years? That chickens get to 'retire' in Florida?

    Some actually don't get killed, obviously most probably do, but they give a lot away to people who keep chickens as a hobby. My auld lad has a few of them. They still lay too, but their best laying days are just behind them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    Kelly06 wrote: »
    What do they do to them? Wait do I even want to know? It's bad right?

    View at your own discretion!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,905 ✭✭✭daheff


    SoftMicro wrote: »
    chicks with dicks?

    I think they want them without...I certainly want without!! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,450 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    the_monkey wrote: »
    12 hour shift is the worst part of this, don't know why they can't split it into 3x8 rather then 2x12 shifts.

    You'd have to train another sexer.
    Dunno what happens if one sexer gets sick though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭Sheepy99




  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,795 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    Couldn't do it if it paid £250,000 a year. Horrifying job.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    Couldn't do it if it paid £250,000 a year. Horrifying job.
    In fairness, for £250,000 a year I probably would make the sacrifice. It's the boredom I'd have most difficulty with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    Nino Brown wrote: »
    Yeah, maybe the reason people don't want the job is more to do with wit watching this all day:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtA3msHGusQ (Chick Grinder, don't watch it if that kind of thing bothers you).

    This always made me curious as to why vegetarians eat eggs. The won't eat the chicken because killing chickens is "wrong", but they will eat the eggs, despite millions of male chickens being killed in the process of getting the eggs.

    In fairness though, gruesome as it may seem, that grinder is a pretty quick death, if I had a choice between electric chair, lethal injection, or grinder I'd pick grinder.

    Millions of animals are also killed in growing crops, from habitat destruction, to pesticides, to getting eaten up in machinery etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭JohnnyChimpo


    Not sure why you'd want to train for 3 years for a monotonous job which will soon be replace by IR sensors and a robotic arm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭RoboRat


    How can you watch a chickens ass whilst looking at boards? I'm out....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,450 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Not sure why you'd want to train for 3 years for a monotonous job which will soon be replace by IR sensors and a robotic arm.

    Don't know what an IR sensor can do that takes a human three years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,268 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    In fairness, for £250,000 a year I probably would make the sacrifice. It's the boredom I'd have most difficulty with.
    With £250,000 a year I'm sure you could afford an audible subscription or plenty of audiobook downloads to get past the boredom...

    For that kind of cash I'd happily kill people, never mind chicks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭Depraved


    Sleepy wrote: »
    With £250,000 a year I'm sure you could afford an audible subscription or plenty of audiobook downloads to get past the boredom...

    For that kind of cash I'd happily kill people, never mind chicks.

    I don't have £250,000. Will £80,000 do?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,530 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    kneemos wrote: »
    Don't know what an IR sensor can do that takes a human three years.
    Blood test for hormones or chromosomes , ultrasound or xray to check internal organs

    in the future they might even do it at the egg stage

    or using FACS even at the sperm stage if someone develops the right technology


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭TheBeardedLady


    I'd do it. I'd do it in a heartbeat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    Id do it for 30 grand, the job title itself is guaranteed to get you layed all the time


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