Does James Corden - want to be the next James Bond or something?

gormdubhgorm · 02-04-2019 8:05pm #1

OK I saw this on RTE News Now.

https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2019/0402/1040101-corden-says-chubby-actors-shut-out-of-romantic-roles/

"James Corden says Chubby actors are shut out of romantic roles."
The worst part is he uses banquet table as an analogy!

I thought there is a very obvious reason for that romantic roles are put there so women can fantisise etc
Are women going to fatasise about a fat fella, or the fella with the abs who puts a bit of effort in?

The bit that really annoys me is that Corden has been a fat fecker from the word go. In fact he plays up on his lard @rseness.
Despite all his millions he cannot go on a fitness program, get a dietitian/nutritionist/chef/his own gym?

Who knows I might be completely wrong, women might prefer to see a big fat lard @rse as the next James Bond?

Pherekydes · 02-04-2019 11:15pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

OK I saw this on RTE News Now.

https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/2019/0402/1040101-corden-says-chubby-actors-shut-out-of-romantic-roles/

"James Corden says Chubby actors are shut out of romantic roles."
The worst part is he uses banquet table as an analogy!

I thought there is a very obvious reason for that romantic roles are put there so women can fantisise etc
Are women going to fatasise about a fat fella, or the fella with the abs who puts a bit of effort in?

The bit that really annoys me is that Corden has been a fat fecker from the word go. In fact he plays up on his lard @rseness.
Despite all his millions he cannot go on a fitness program, get a dietitian/nutritionist/chef/his own gym?

Who knows I might be completely wrong women might prefer to see a big fat lard @rse as the next James Bond?

Come on, if there was such a position then Corden wouldn't get through basic training.

Next test: 20 chin ups!

AllForIt · 02-04-2019 11:21pm

Well he might have some semblance of a point re chubby romantic roles but he's using a very bad example in James Bond as Bond obviously has to be fit.

The first female Jane Bond? I don't think so.

RoamingDoc · 02-04-2019 11:30pm

I don’t think James Corden is capable of turning down any role or any chance to appear anywhere so yes, I imagine he does want to be the next Bond.

Lorelli! · 02-04-2019 11:35pm

What about when he played Smithy in Gavin and Stacy and he was with Nessa? That was kind of romantic except for the toilet brush bit and the KFC.

Richard Hillman · 02-04-2019 11:36pm

I really don't think people want to see, er, wider folk in sex scenes.

It seems like he wants his cake and wants to eat it too. Quite literally.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 02-04-2019 11:37pm

What's he on about? Who would want to watch him in a rom com, he's not good looking and has serious weight isssues.

KilOit · 02-04-2019 11:39pm

Don't like the guy but one thing I saw of him was the skit he did with mark wahlberg and Mark was going through his workout routine and diet, James was just making fun of the whole workout, yes he's joking but nothing to be proud of to be some fat slob that puts zero effort into exercise, I'd say Mark just thought he was a lazy wanker

beertons · 02-04-2019 11:40pm

Think he had a go at being the milk tray man, but ate them all.

Lorelli! · 02-04-2019 11:42pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

What's he on about? Who would want to watch him in a rom com, he's not good looking and has serious weight isssues.

I was joking in my post but he could actually do a romcom very well if you saw him in Gavin and Stacy.

I don't know about a more serious romantic role though probably for the reasons he says tbf to him.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 02-04-2019 11:43pm

Tess Holiday would be attractive if she lost the weight.

Corden has nothing going for him in the looks department.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 02-04-2019 11:45pm

Lorelli! wrote: »

I was joking in my post but he could actually do a romcom very well if you saw him in Gavin and Stacy.

I don't know about a more serious romantic role though probably for the reasons he says tbf to him.

Yeah as the goofy funny friend.

It would be ridiculous to cast him in a leading man, love interest role in Hollywood.

Lorelli! · 02-04-2019 11:51pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Yeah as the goofy funny friend..

He did play the funny friend but he also had a few serious moments in it as well with Nessa and they had a baby together.

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

It would be ridiculous to cast him in a leading man, love interest role in Hollywood.

That's what he's saying, that he's shut out as an option for those roles.

ligerdub · 02-04-2019 11:55pm

Pherekydes wrote:

Come on, if there was such a position then Corden wouldn't get through basic training.

Next test: 20 chin ups!

That would be one rep in his case.

castletownman · 02-04-2019 11:57pm

The irony is lost on this guy.

He essentially got his break, and subsequently made a career, out of being a 'funny fat guy'

Franz Von Peppercorn · 02-04-2019 11:59pm

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Tess Holiday would be attractive if she lost the weight.

Corden has nothing going for him in the looks department.

Really? I’d say he’d look good. Like turtle.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 03-04-2019 12:01am

With his money he could be in good shape in less than a year. Private gym, personal trainer at the house. Nutritionist. I mean you don’t need all that but it makes it easier.

gormdubhgorm · 03-04-2019 12:04am

There is a fella in America who is comparable to James Corden -

Kevin James
From 'King of Queens' fame.

He knows the roles he is suited to
He plays the eejit in the 'King of Queens' and constantly makes fun of his own weight (as the above quote shows.)

When he played the action hero it was a comedy like 'Mall Cop'

But if you put an overweight fella in an action hero role - lead in a serious romance type film it would very quickly be an unintentional comedy, I think.

Pherekydes · 03-04-2019 12:05am

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

With his money he could be in good shape in less than a year. Private gym, personal trainer at the house. Nutritionist. I mean you don’t need all that but it makes it easier.

Do you mean bariatric surgery and liposuction?

gormdubhgorm · 03-04-2019 12:06am

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

With his money he could be in good shape in less than a year. Private gym, personal trainer at the house. Nutritionist. I mean you don’t need all that but it makes it easier.

Exactly that is the bit that really annoyed me.
If he feels that left out he has plenty of chance to rectify it much easier than the less well off person.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 03-04-2019 12:11am

Pherekydes wrote: »

Do you mean bariatric surgery and liposuction?

Naw. He could lose the weight in a year. Less. 1 pound a week is 52 pounds.

Richard Hillman · 03-04-2019 12:11am

When you look at all the people who made millions and built their careers off the Rom-Com industry, Jennifer Aniston, Matthew McConnaughty, Katherine Heigl etc, they are good looking people but they don't just wake up and stay good-looking. They actually put some work into looking healthy and make sacrifices.

I would imagine Jennifer Aniston would love nothing more than to be sitting on her backside all day, eating pizza but she stayed healthy and made an absolute fortune from it. She wouldn't have got the roles if she didn't. These people actually worked for it, outside of their acting abilities.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 03-04-2019 12:12am

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Exactly that is the bit that really annoyed me.
If he feels that left out he has plenty of chance to rectify it much easier than the less well off person.

Plenty of time in the morning too. I mean it’s a busy enough job but he could easily afford 60-90 minutes. And hire a cook.

Pherekydes · 03-04-2019 8:31am

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Naw. He could lose the weight in a year. Less. 1 pound a week is 52 pounds.

Yeah, but that would take some effort!

Triceratops Ballet · 03-04-2019 9:03am

I think James Corden could easily play a romantic lead, I could see him in the one of those inane Love Actually type roles. There's literally no reason he couldn't be. He could play that funny sweet self effacing type that Hugh Grant used to play.

Worth pointing out too that Idris Elba for all his handsomeness, and fitness and buckets of charm etc also never gets cast in romantic lead roles either, he's spoken about that too. Hollywood is obviously invested in keeping a certain type in those roles.

JohnnyFlash · 03-04-2019 9:42am

I really dislike James Corden, with that fake laugh and his small dead beady eyes. Extremely insincere sort of guy. Wouldn’t surprise me if he was a sociopath.

gormdubhgorm · 03-04-2019 11:31am

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I really dislike James Corden, with that fake laugh and his small dead beady eyes. Extremely insincere sort of guy. Wouldn’t surprise me if he was a sociopath.

I have not considered that angle!
To me I think he is a guy with a massive chip on his shoulder despite his success and fame.

It all started fairly early in his career as well when the mask slipped a bit.
He himself even admitted he was a 'brat'

https://www.digitalspy.com/showbiz/a341795/james-corden-on-bafta-win-i-was-ungracious-ungrateful-and-bratish/

I am not sure his 'emotional moments in speeches' are put on or not?
He has done very well for himself I think, but the fella seems extremely insecure.

gormdubhgorm · 03-04-2019 11:34am

Triceratops Ballet wrote: »

I think James Corden could easily play a romantic lead, I could see him in the one of those inane Love Actually type roles. There's literally no reason he couldn't be. He could play that funny sweet self effacing type that Hugh Grant used to play.

Worth pointing out too that Idris Elba for all his handsomeness, and fitness and buckets of charm etc also never gets cast in romantic lead roles either, he's spoken about that too. Hollywood is obviously invested in keeping a certain type in those roles.

So it would turn into a self-effacing comedy type role if Corden was cast as lead?
It is exactly what he seems to rallying against now the 'fat funny fella' role.

valoren · 03-04-2019 11:45am

He is claiming that if you are unattractive and overweight then you are effectively blacklisted from getting cast as the lead in romantic roles, that the best you can hope for is to be the comic relief sidekick, supporting character. I think there is a cognitive dissonance at play with Corden. He is overweight and doesn't exactly possess Matinee good looks. If he lost 50 pounds he won't miraculously transform into a sex symbol getting rom-com scripts thrown his way. He trades on the force of his personality which ironically plays up to the "jolly fat man" trope and stereotype. He's been in the business a long time and should know that no studio in their right mind would invest money into producing a run of the mill rom com with overweight leads. To do so would require material far above and beyond the regurgitated "Matthew McConnaughy always leaning in the poster" stuff they churn out regularly. It would need to be something like My Big Fat Greek Wedding where it is actually written by a left field looking lead character for a studio to commit and take a risk. Corden himself grasps that he made his own break by co-writing a good, well received show.

Think about the famed romantic comedies, Billy Crystal in When Harry Met Sally, Jack Lemmon in the Apartments even Tom Hanks in Sleepless in Seattle. Not exactly Adonis' in the looks and physique department are they? Yet they got the roles through sheer talent and likability.

BeerWolf · 03-04-2019 12:03pm

Some women are feeders!

Franz Von Peppercorn · 03-04-2019 12:23pm

valoren wrote: »

He is claiming that if you are unattractive and overweight then you are effectively blacklisted from getting cast as the lead in romantic roles, that the best you can hope for is to be the comic relief sidekick, supporting character. I think there is a cognitive dissonance at play with Corden. He is overweight and doesn't exactly possess Matinee good looks. If he lost 50 pounds he won't miraculously transform into a sex symbol getting rom-com scripts thrown his way. He trades on the force of his personality which ironically plays up to the "jolly fat man" trope and stereotype. He's been in the business a long time and should know that no studio in their right mind would invest money into producing a run of the mill rom com with overweight leads. To do so would require material far above and beyond the regurgitated "Matthew McConnaughy always leaning in the poster" stuff they churn out regularly. It would need to be something like My Big Fat Greek Wedding where it is actually written by a left field looking lead character for a studio to commit and take a risk. Corden himself grasps that he made his own break by co-writing a good, well received show.

Think about the famed romantic comedies, Billy Crystal in When Harry Met Sally, Jack Lemmon in the Apartments even Tom Hanks in Sleepless in Seattle. Not exactly Adonis' in the looks and physique department are they? Yet they got the roles through sheer talent and likability.

See I think you are wrong about whether he would be good looking if not fat, I think he would be - hard to see what else is wrong with his features. So it is up to him.

Drumpot · 03-04-2019 12:37pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

But if you put an overweight fella in an action hero role - lead in a serious romance type film it would very quickly be an unintentional comedy, I think.

There is no way James Cordon playing John McCalain squeezing through this tunnel would turn into an unintentional comedy.

Trigger Happy · 03-04-2019 12:47pm

He wears the same watch brand as Bond, but wrong model.

Lorelli! · 03-04-2019 3:42pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

It all started fairly early in his career as well when the mask slipped a bit.
He himself even admitted he was a 'brat'.

Ah stop :pac: admitting that fame went to his head early on in his career is hardly proof he's a sociopath!!

valoren wrote: »

He is claiming that if you are unattractive and overweight then you are effectively blacklisted from getting cast as the lead in romantic roles, that the best you can hope for is to be the comic relief sidekick, supporting character. I think there is a cognitive dissonance at play with Corden. He is overweight and doesn't exactly possess Matinee good looks.

I don't think it's cognitive dissonance. What he's saying is true but alot of actors do get typecast and there's other things that would effect his chances too not just his weight.

Unlike someone say like James Gandolfini, he kind of has a babyish face and his public persona plays up to the mischievous childlike character that he's played before so if you want to do diverse roles as an actor, you should probably keep a bit of mystery about yourself.

El Weirdo · 03-04-2019 4:31pm

valoren wrote: »

... He is overweight and doesn't exactly possess Matinee good looks. ...

Manatee, on the other hand...

Mrcaramelchoc · 03-04-2019 4:41pm

He's the fat lad on the telly is he?

Sleepy · 03-04-2019 5:35pm

Wasn't the Paul Potts biopic he did essentially a Rom-Com?

Does James Corden - want to be the next James Bond or something?

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