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Quite possibly the best documentary I’ve viewed in ages.

  • 09-01-2020 10:38pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭


    It’s fairly long but well worth watching,trust me on that.


    Everything is a rich man’s trick.
    https://youtu.be/M8nE-8ctbTI


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,015 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    3.5hrs.....I'll pass.

    Could you give us a summary to help us decide if its actually worth watching?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,799 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    It has got a few decent reviews on IMDB.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4798606/


    3.5 hours is a long slog to get through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Hagar7


    NIMAN wrote: »
    3.5hrs.....I'll pass.

    Could you give us a summary to help us decide if its actually worth watching?
    Once you start watching it then it flies in,I was the same as you tbh but once it started then I watched it all the way through,it’s that sort of a doc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,535 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    NIMAN wrote: »
    3.5hrs.....I'll pass.

    Could you give us a summary to help us decide if its actually worth watching?

    This. Even a small hint to what it's about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Hagar7


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    This. Even a small hint to what it's about?
    It’s about how the conmen throughout the years get people to die for them in exchange for absolutely nothing at all.
    How the Skull and Bones (Masonic Lodge) cartel are laughing at everyone whilst dancing around a table killing an innocent victim,the richest people on earth making sure that wars are kept going,be it the Rothschild family,the Mafia the Royal Family,and especially the Bush Family,a good summary on how 8 people were posted on various areas to make sure JFK didn’t stand a chance of surviving,how Henry Ford helped the Germans in WW2 along with many others.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,327 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Hagar7 wrote: »
    It’s about how the conmen throughout the years get people to die for them in exchange for absolutely nothing at all.
    How the Skull and Bones (Masonic Lodge) cartel are laughing at everyone whilst dancing around a table killing an innocent victim,the richest people on earth making sure that wars are kept going,be it the Rothschild family,the Mafia the Royal Family,and especially the Bush Family,a good summary on how 8 people were posted on various areas to make sure JFK didn’t stand a chance of surviving,how Henry Ford helped the Germans in WW2 along with many others.

    What about it was particularly interesting or convincing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Hagar7


    King Mob wrote: »
    What about it was particularly interesting or convincing?

    Everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,327 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Did you do anything to verify that the facts presented in the documentary were actually true and accurately presented?
    If so, what did you do to verify this.

    If not, why did you find the documentary interesting or convincing?

    You aren't doing a very good job of selling the idea of people investing 3 hours of their time on a random internet documentary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Hagar7


    King Mob wrote: »
    Did you do anything to verify that the facts presented in the documentary were actually true and accurately presented?
    If so, what did you do to verify this.

    If not, why did you find the documentary interesting or convincing?

    You aren't doing a very good job of selling the idea of people investing 3 hours of their time on a random internet documentary.

    Sorry Thomas but if you don't want to bother with the documentary I posted then that's entirely your prerogative,many have though,have a nice day.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 343 ✭✭TwoMonthsOff


    Thanks for this. Will watch later.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    They Payseurs want you to think it’s the Rothschilds. There’s a long video about it on youtube.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,327 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Hagar7 wrote: »
    Sorry Thomas but if you don't want to bother with the documentary I posted then that's entirely your prerogative,many have though,have a nice day.

    Ok.
    So you didn't do anything to verify any of it's claims.
    You don't seem at all willing to discuss this documentary.

    I don't understand why people do this...:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,571 ✭✭✭weisses


    There is a lot you don't understand .... Back of with the third degree interrogation method of debating... Watch the documentary, then come back and have a discussion about it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,327 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    weisses wrote: »
    There is a lot you don't understand .... Back of with the third degree interrogation method of debating... Watch the documentary, then come back and have a discussion about it...
    "Why did you find the documentary convincing" and "what did you do to verify it was accurate" = the third degree? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Hagar7


    Ipso wrote: »
    They Payseurs want you to think it’s the Rothschilds. There’s a long video about it on youtube.

    Cheers,is there a link to it the nmate?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,035 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    I've seen it. Should be called "Everything is a conspiracy".

    Its bat**** crazy for the most part. If I remember correctly they say JFK was shot 16 times by 8 shooters or something. lol.

    Theres a reasonably interesting part which discusses Nazi funding. The rest is wild conjecture. Kinda like Zeitgeist. NWO, 9/11, JFK, Rothchilds etc. Basically one step away from lizard people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,354 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Hagar7 wrote: »
    It’s about how the conmen throughout the years get people to die for them in exchange for absolutely nothing at all.
    How the Skull and Bones (Masonic Lodge) cartel are laughing at everyone whilst dancing around a table killing an innocent victim,the richest people on earth making sure that wars are kept going,be it the Rothschild family,the Mafia the Royal Family,and especially the Bush Family,a good summary on how 8 people were posted on various areas to make sure JFK didn’t stand a chance of surviving,how Henry Ford helped the Germans in WW2 along with many others.

    Is the title of the documentary ‘Conspiracy Bingo’, by any chance?

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,035 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Claims from the movie

    "All terrorism is fake. It is military deception, practiced by the rich upon the poor in an ongoing class war."

    "All institutions of the American government are essentially a gangster syndicate; and everybody knows this."

    Lots of "everybody knows this", "we now know", "its been proven that" rhetoric rtc etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,354 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    We know know that we don’t need to bother watching the linked documentary. It has been proven. Everybody knows this.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    What about it was particularly interesting or convincing?

    Watch it find out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    weisses wrote: »
    There is a lot you don't understand .... Back of with the third degree interrogation method of debating... Watch the documentary, then come back and have a discussion about it...

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,435 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    King Mob wrote: »
    You aren't doing a very good job of selling the idea of people investing 3 hours of their time on a random internet documentary.

    Says an individual who has spent the last fourteen years on this site almost exclusively berating people for having opinions that disagree with their own.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,327 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    nullzero wrote: »
    Says an individual who has spent the last fourteen years on this site almost exclusively berating people for having opinions that disagree with their own.
    Weird how personal people are getting on this thread.
    Pretty telling that people are more interesting in taking a pop at me rather that talk about the documentary.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Ted_YNWA wrote: »
    It has got a few decent reviews on IMDB.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4798606/


    3.5 hours is a long slog to get through.

    JFK talked about secret societies before he died. It was his last speech; I believe.

    starts at 6 mins 30 seconds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,435 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    King Mob wrote: »
    Weird how personal people are getting on this thread.
    Pretty telling that people are more interesting in taking a pop at me rather that talk about the documentary.

    Nothing personal it's just an observation about your posting history. You spend an inordinate amount of your time arguing with people who's opinions differ from yours. Surely you can see the irony of you insisting that three and a half hours of your life should not be wasted by watching a documentary about conspiracy theories when conspiracy theories are largely the focus of your attention here? The focus of your attention as it happens since April 2006.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,327 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    nullzero wrote: »
    Nothing personal it's just an observation about your posting history. You spend an inordinate amount of your time arguing with people who's opinions differ from yours. Surely you can see the irony of you insisting that three and a half hours of your life should not be wasted by watching a documentary about conspiracy theories when conspiracy theories are largely the focus of your attention here?
    I didn't insist anything. I expressed my opinion that the documentary doesn't seem worth the investment of time given how the op hasn't given a good reason to watch it.

    I expressed my opinion about the topic at hand after asking the op to expand on their thoughts.

    Do you have an opinion on the documentary?
    Have you watched it?

    If you'd prefer to just hijack this thread to discuss me, then I'm not very interested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,435 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    King Mob wrote: »
    I didn't insist anything. I expressed my opinion that the documentary doesn't seem worth the investment of time given how the op hasn't given a good reason to watch it.

    I expressed my opinion about the topic at hand after asking the op to expand on their thoughts.

    Do you have an opinion on the documentary?
    Have you watched it?

    If you'd prefer to just hijack this thread to discuss me, then I'm not very interested.

    The documentary would appear to be on topic for this forum,although I haven't and probably will not watch it.

    You said and I quote... "Did you do anything to verify that the facts presented in the documentary were actually true and accurately presented?
    If so, what did you do to verify this.

    If not, why did you find the documentary interesting or convincing?

    You aren't doing a very good job of selling the idea of people investing 3 hours of their time on a random internet documentary."

    This would appear to me and I would suggest anyone else passing through this forum to be a pointedly demanding post.

    The OP shared a link to a documentary that is relevant to the topics one might expect to find being discussed on such a forum, you began to insist that they give you a good reason to watch it.

    I'm as entitled to express an opinion on your frankly OTT response to this person as you are to post in the way you did. I feel your intention was to hijack this thread, which ironically you have accused me of doing for taking you to task, although I wouldn't begin back seat modding like you have done with me.

    My point is valid, why complain about spending three and a half hours of your life watching a documentary about conspiracy theories when you have spent almost fourteen years of your life discussing that very topic?

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭wil


    I believe its a multilayered manyplayered international plot by the producers to get you to watch the documentary. The incontrovertible clues are dotted liberally throughout.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,327 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    nullzero wrote: »
    The documentary would appear to be on topic for this forum,although I haven't and probably will not watch it.

    You said and I quote... "Did you do anything to verify that the facts presented in the documentary were actually true and accurately presented?
    If so, what did you do to verify this.

    If not, why did you find the documentary interesting or convincing?

    You aren't doing a very good job of selling the idea of people investing 3 hours of their time on a random internet documentary."

    This would appear to me and I would suggest anyone else passing through this forum to be a pointedly demanding post.

    The OP shared a link to a documentary that is relevant to the topics one might expect to find being discussed on such a forum, you began to insist that they give you a good reason to watch it.

    I'm as entitled to express an opinion on your frankly OTT response to this person as you are to post in the way you did. I feel your intention was to derail this thread, which ironically you have accused me of doing for taking you to task, although I wouldn't begin back seat modding like you have done with me.

    My point is valid, why complain about spending three and a half hours of your life watching a documentary about conspiracy theories when you have spent almost fourteen years of your life discussing that very topic?
    Where did I complain about spending time on the documentary?

    What was demanding or over the top about my questions?

    Have you any thoughts on the documentary?

    As I've explained before I am interested in conspiraxy theories, I just dont believe the vast majority are not true and not convincing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    Where did I complain about spending time on the documentary?

    What was demanding or over the top about my questions?

    Have you any thoughts on the documentary?

    As I've explained before I am interested in conspiraxy theories, I just dont believe the vast majority are not true and not convincing.

    Which conspiracy do you believe? I have been here awhile, not yet seen you accept one, as true?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,327 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Which conspiracy do you believe? I have been here awhile, not yet seen you accept one, as true?

    Sorry, I have no interest in discussing myself further.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    King Mob wrote: »
    Where did I complain about spending time on the documentary?

    What was demanding or over the top about my questions?

    Have you any thoughts on the documentary?

    As I've explained before I am interested in conspiraxy theories, I just dont believe the vast majority are not true and not convincing.

    You watch it and tell us all why its not worth watching.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,435 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    King Mob wrote: »
    Where did I complain about spending time on the documentary?

    What was demanding or over the top about my questions?

    Have you any thoughts on the documentary?

    As I've explained before I am interested in conspiraxy theories, I just dont believe the vast majority are not true and not convincing.

    The interest you would appear to have is in the realm of disproving all and any conspiracy theories, which is perfectly fine by me, however your initial posts on this thread are demonstrably hostile and condescending in tone.

    Surely if you have no intention of watching the documentary the best course of action for a person of your persuasion would be to simply allow others who have watched it to discuss its merits amongst themselves. Any deviation from this began with you, I felt it may be useful to hold a mirror up for you to appreciate how others appropriate your contributions.

    My thoughts on the documentary have been outlined already, I most likely will not watch it, although I can appreciate why people posting on a conspiracy theory forum may find it interesting.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,327 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    You watch it and tell us all why its not worth watching.
    I don't think its worth watching because it doesnt seem to be any more verified or accurate than any number of three hour long conspiracy videos.

    Also The Nal watched the documentary and commented on it:
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112238313&postcount=18

    His comments confirm my suspicions about it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,435 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    King Mob wrote: »
    You aren't doing a very good job of selling the idea of people investing 3 hours of their time on a random internet documentary.

    I'm quoting this again as it shows where you raised questions about the validity of watching the documentary. Just for your records.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,327 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    nullzero wrote: »
    however your initial posts on this thread are demonstrably hostile and condescending in tone. .
    Please demonstrate why they are hostile, condescending or otherwise "OTT".
    nullzero wrote: »
    Surely if you have no intention of watching the documentary the best course of action for a person of your persuasion would be to simply allow others who have watched it to discuss its merits amongst themselves.
    .
    Or I could ask the op a question?

    And again given the responses before my post and after, and given the op responses to me and others, thr discussion you are imagining probably wasnt going to happen.
    nullzero wrote: »
    My thoughts on the documentary have been outlined already, I most likely will not watch it, although I can appreciate why people posting on a conspiracy theory forum may find it interesting.
    Why won't you watch it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,435 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    King Mob wrote: »
    Please demonstrate why they are hostile, condescending or otherwise "OTT".


    Or I could ask the op a question?

    And again given the responses before my post and after, and given the op responses to me and others, thr discussion you are imagining probably wasnt going to happen.

    Why won't you watch it?

    Why should I have to point out how something that you wrote and is demonstrably hostile and condescending when it is self evident that this is the case?

    This is your problem, you demand answers from people as if you are owed something. All anyone has to do to understand the tone of your posts is read them. You posturing in your typical obstinate manner makes no difference to this.

    I hadn't imagined any discussion as it happens, so I'm not sure where to go with that.

    I won't watch the documentary because I generally don't have that type of time on my hands.

    To be honest I just find it a little upsetting to see you here constantly fighting with people you look down your nose at in a never ending war of attrition that you have admittedly have become quite gifted at participating in. Surely there's more to life than arguing about things you feel you're too clever to believe in.

    Glazers Out!



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 784 ✭✭✭LaFuton


    its alrite. i watched it in one sitting back in 2017 in waterford.
    im not from waterford nor do i live there.
    enough said.

    that being said i sat thru 8 hours of The Arrivals one night. my poor brain...anyone seen it? bogey metaconspiracy stuff, changes ya, cant look at black and white checkered tiles the same or blondes in red, and that music, clint mansells fountain score... oh man
    you're not a conspiracy theorist until you sit thru that headf**k


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    King Mob wrote: »

    Also The Nal watched the documentary and commented on it:
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112238313&postcount=18

    His comments confirm my suspicions about it.

    so you havent got your own opinion,just parroting someone elses.

    maybe lay off on the questions then until you watched it yourself.

    Youre coming across pretty badly on these threads when you wont even look at something but fire out 101 questions interrogating anyone who dares go against youre spoon fed narrative.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,327 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    nullzero wrote: »
    Why should I have to point out how something that you wrote and is demonstrably hostile and condescending when it is self evident that this is the case?

    This is your problem, you demand answers from people as if you are owed something. All anyone has to do to understand the tone of your posts is read them. You posturing in your typical obstinate manner makes no difference to this.

    I hadn't imagined any discussion as it happens, so I'm not sure where to go with that.

    I won't watch the documentary because I generally don't have that type of time on my hands.

    To be honest I just find it a little upsetting to see you here constantly fighting with people you look down your nose at in a never ending war of attrition that you have admittedly have become quite gifted at participating in. Surely there's more to life than arguing about things you feel you're too clever to believe in.
    Again this is all just personal attacks based on your presumptions.

    I'm sorry that you are so offended by my tone.
    However I cannot control how sentistive some people are.

    But as its clear you only want to have a go at me and not discuss the topic, I'll leave it there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,327 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    so you havent got your own opinion,just parroting someone elses.

    maybe lay off on the questions then until you watched it yourself.

    Youre coming across pretty badly on these threads when you wont even look at something but fire out 101 questions interrogating anyone who dares go against youre spoon fed narrative.
    Again weirdly personal and inaccurate.
    Ive stated my opinion pretty clearly and I asked a grand total of two questions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    King Mob wrote: »
    What about it was particularly interesting or convincing?
    King Mob wrote: »
    Did you do anything to verify that the facts presented in the documentary were actually true and accurately presented?
    If so, what did you do to verify this.

    If not, why did you find the documentary interesting or convincing?
    King Mob wrote: »
    Do you have an opinion on the documentary?
    Have you watched it?
    King Mob wrote: »
    Where did I complain about spending time on the documentary?

    What was demanding or over the top about my questions?

    Have you any thoughts on the documentary?
    King Mob wrote: »

    Or I could ask the op a question?

    Why won't you watch it?

    Yes 2 questions.
    Pretending to be confused.
    Pretending that its all getting "personal".
    Your modus operandi is plain to see for all but your devoted follower.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,327 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    Yes 2 questions.
    Pretending to be confused.
    Pretending that its all getting "personal".
    Your modus operandi is plain to see for all but your devoted follower.
    Yes, 2 questions followed by attempts to clarify inaccurate personal comments.

    Again not interested in discussing myself as much as you guys are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    King Mob wrote: »
    Again not interested in discussing .

    the video cos you arent arsed to watch it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 886 ✭✭✭bb12


    have just started watching it...got to the part where he states that the duke of edinburgh's brother was a nazi and head of the SS. never heard this before so googled it and it turns out it was his brother in law and he was a senior member of the ss, not the head...so slightly misleading facts right there...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    bb12 wrote: »
    have just started watching it...got to the part where he states that the duke of edinburgh's brother was a nazi and head of the SS. never heard this before so googled it and it turns out it was his brother in law and he was a senior member of the ss, not the head...so slightly misleading facts right there...

    This kind of twisting of facts is a staple of the armature conspiracy theory documentary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,799 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    Mod

    Whatever King Mob's character is is not the topic of debate.

    The questions were valid, as the OP details were vague and short at the time.

    This back and forth is bringing thread off topic and ends here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,035 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    JFK talked about secret societies before he died. It was his last speech; I believe.

    starts at 6 mins 30 seconds

    Not surprisingly, you're yet again wrong, on both counts.

    The speech is from April 1961, two and a half years before he died. And if you had bothered to watch it all and not simply quote mine, its a speech about the Cold War and the Soviet Union.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 784 ✭✭✭LaFuton


    relax folks. watch The Arrivals doc, (if u can call it a doc)
    i think its even on utube
    take a bucket of salt with this one, its practically a comedy for conspiracy fans


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