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Cavity vents for timber frame house

  • 19-02-2014 3:08pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 25


    Hello,
    My OH and I have recently bought a timber frame house that have never had cavity vents put into the walls. I know it's a requirement to have them and would like to get them fitted as soon as possible but it's very hard to find a tradesman who knows much about them. I've been reading different posts on boards and found Drillvent being recommended by people. Are these the best option? Can anybody fit them in? The house is located in Galway area. Any help or advise would be very much appreciated.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭cork2


    Most carpenters would fit them for you or to be honest anyone else with a bit of common sense. You need high level vents and low level vent to best create a cross draft. Drill vents you literally dril a 3/4" hole and push in the vent job done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,790 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    +1 on Drillvent. At work we use them as the std vent now - almost never the old Perp vent.

    All you need is a drill bit - instructions for fitting are on the Drillvent site

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  • Registered Users Posts: 15 ploki90


    MonsieK wrote: »
    Hello,
    My OH and I have recently bought a timber frame house that have never had cavity vents put into the walls. I know it's a requirement to have them and would like to get them fitted as soon as possible but it's very hard to find a tradesman who knows much about them. I've been reading different posts on boards and found Drillvent being recommended by people. Are these the best option? Can anybody fit them in? The house is located in Galway area. Any help or advise would be very much appreciated.

    hello!
    hope the new house and venting job has gone well for you. i am in the middle of buying a timber frame house myself. its about 10 or 12 years old. some of the vents on the outside walls had been poorly installed, even plastered over. the surveyor believed this could lead to rotting of the timber frame and wanted to perform a borescope test (basicly send in a scope and check it out) but wants to charge €350 extra ontop of his outstanding fees. were any of these concerns raised with you or had you any issuse with damp because of poor ventilation? i feel like i am being lead up the path here a bit


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,141 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    ploki90 wrote: »
    hello!
    hope the new house and venting job has gone well for you. i am in the middle of buying a timber frame house myself. its about 10 or 12 years old. some of the vents on the outside walls had been poorly installed, even plastered over. the surveyor believed this could lead to rotting of the timber frame and wanted to perform a borescope test (basicly send in a scope and check it out) but wants to charge €350 extra ontop of his outstanding fees. were any of these concerns raised with you or had you any issuse with damp because of poor ventilation? i feel like i am being lead up the path here a bit
    Get a second opinion or pay up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 ploki90


    thanks BRYAN!
    i am working on that.
    wanted to also hear from someone on the same side as myself (buyer/owner).
    ive talked to 3 professionals about the potential issues and they have all given vague cautious opinions. would like to hear from people with direct experience on the matter.
    cheers.


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,141 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    Of course they have given vague cautious opinions, you haven't directed them to check out the actual situation?


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 ploki90


    like i said. i want to hear from owner/buyers point of view. thanks for your advice of "Get a second opinion or pay up". i know thats the ultimate solution, but that involves €350+. i am a bit flush for cash at the mo. buying a house and all... plus this work would be invasive. this would also be an issue as i dont own the property. anyway, thanks again Bryan.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 MonsieK


    Hi ploki90,
    Yes, we have got the vents inserted and all is well, thanks.
    I understand your concerns as we were in a similar situation. We have got the survey done and the engineer recommended to have them installed asap. He didn't notice any dampness and the house was in a great condition (only 7 years old) so we weren't too worried but he also recommended the test. To be honest a lot of them will say that as they want to cover themselves in case something goes wrong. You could get a second opinion and pay for it or get the test done and also pay for it. Perhaps there's no need to worry just have them vents fixed but imagine if you do buy the house and it turns out that there is damage done? You will end up paying a lot more than 350 euro to fix it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15 ploki90


    thanks MonsieK
    i have done more research on the development since. the feedback has been all good. i will probably go a similar route as yourself and put in some extra vents. then i should have no worries.
    good luck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 MonsieK


    Great. I'd say if there's no visible dampness inside of the house you're fine. And like you said putting a few extra vents should help. Best of luck with it. Hope you get the house. If you have any other questions send me a PM, will be happy to help.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5 sean_ie


    Hi MonsieK,

    I discovered this old thread while searching for solutions to a similar issue I have with a timber frame house I bought 8 months ago. It was built in 2001 without any vents on the external stone block leaf, so the air gap between the timber frame and external stone leaf is not properly vented. Can I ask you who you got to put vents in your walls? Can you recommend any companies?

    Thanks

    MonsieK wrote: »
    Great. I'd say if there's no visible dampness inside of the house you're fine. And like you said putting a few extra vents should help. Best of luck with it. Hope you get the house. If you have any other questions send me a PM, will be happy to help.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 MonsieK


    Hi sean_ie,
    It's been quite some time since I've got them done. I'll have to go through my emails to see if I can find who's fitted them. I'll send you a PM in a day or two. I'm guessing you're based near Galway?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 sean_ie


    Hi MonsieK,

    that'd be great if you could dig back to see who fitted them. I'm in Dublin but even if you have someone that you used over in Galway it could help me to find someone closer to home. Thanks again and look forward to receiving your PM.

    Thanks,

    Seán


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 notadrummer


    Hi Monsiek and Sean_ie,

    I, too, have same issue - house built in 2001 has no gable end weep vents.

    No visible dampness inside but I really would like vents placed on gable end before next winter and this led me to drill vents, and this thread. Drill vents seems the easiest solution.

    Who did you get to install them? I am based in Galway city. A PM would be great if you ever see this post :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 sean_ie


    Hi, I ended up ordering a box of clear drill weep vents on line from amazon. I put them in myself. I live in a very exposed site and was worried the vents would allow water in when the rain and wind is heavy. So I just put them in at the base around 3 sides. I didn't put any on the front of the house as it is sea facing and the wind and rain can get fierce at times. Maybe I should put them in under the roof and at the 1st floor level too but boring holes through the external brick is a worrying prospect in such an exposed location. since there is no sign of damp and the timbers look good I thought just at the base would be enough.

    I used an sds drill with a 2.5cm drill bit to bore the holes. Not the best. The automatic hammer action does not leave a perfectly smooth hole. Better to use a diamond core drill bit instead. Unfortunately I couldn't find one with the right size so that's why I used an standard sds drill.

    You need to be careful not to go too deep otherwise you'll hit the membrane protecting the timber frame. That's why I did it myself, because I wouldn't trust someone else to pay attention when drilling the holes and they'd end up damaging the membrane.

    Once drilled, it was a challenge to get the vents fitted in to the holes neatly. They're a tight fit and when I hammered them in many of them cracked. I found hammering them in with a piece of wood worked best. Still trying to get them flush with the wall was also an issue because you've got to drill the holes at a precise angle.

    Hope that helps.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 notadrummer


    Thanks Sean - half tempted to borrow a drill and do it myself but drilling through concrete is certainly not something I am used to. Thanks for your detailed experience of it though !


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