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The Irishman (Scorsese, De Niro, Pesci and Pacino)

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    #32
    TiGeR KiNgS
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    Wish this had of been done sooner in their careers.
    Unfortunately both are well and truly past there prime.


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    #33
    BaZmO*
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    https://www.facebook.com/181106145413545/videos/453710198153137/


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    #34
    Agent Coulson
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    Confirmed last night at Cannes nearly 10 years after the OP.
    EXCLUSIVE: Martin Scorsese’s mob picture The Irishman has landed at STX Entertainment in a huge deal for international rights that could be a recent record for Cannes. We’re hearing the buy could be worth as much as $50 million. It was struck very late Saturday night L.A. time after lengthy negotiations that went through the night and comes after Fabrica de Cine closed a deal with Paramount at week’s end to finance the film. That’s similar to the structure set last year at Cannes for Scorsese’s Silence — to the tune of some $100 million. Paramount will retain domestic on the picture, which hopes to reunite Scorsese with Robert De Niro, Joe Pesci and Harvey Keitel, as well as to team Al Pacino with Scorsese for the first time in their storied careers.

    This is by far the biggest deal of this Cannes and the project the marketplace has been waiting for. In the run-up to the festival, all the talk had been of how this was going to be Amazon’s year, with the major disrupter’s five titles, including fest opener Cafe Society. Now, with this and the Molly’s Game deal, which Deadline also broke, one can argue Cannes 2016 reps STX’s coming of age as a genuine global player.

    “We could not be more excited or privileged to have secured the international rights to this incredible motion picture,” said STX international president David Kosse. “Fabrica de Cine’s vision and support in putting together this film is incredible. Martin Scorsese is one of the world’s most accomplished filmmakers and The Irishman is precisely the kind of premiere tentpole programming that will help distinguish STX as we continue to build our studio and especially our infrastructure overseas.”

    The bidding war in the days running up to and during Cannes sawalmost everyone kicking the tires. The final bids came down to Universal, Fox and STX going toe-to-toe with Lionsgate along with Stuart Ford’s IM Global and Alex Walton’s Bloom also in the mix. This is not only a major get for STX but will energize what has been a modest sales market to date.

    The ambitious new studio now has a major tentpole film to feed through its output deals and also a major title to self-distribute in the UK once Kosse, a highly respected veteran, launches its new distribution outfit. STX announced the opening of its international division earlier this year with Kosse at its helm. STX Motion Picture Group chairman Adam Fogelson and Kosse had previously worked together at Universal. They hired Shyama Friedenson, who had worked in international marketing at Paramount, StudioCanal and Lionsgate. So they’re well-equipped to launch The Irishman.

    “We value STX’s passion and belief in this project,” said Fabrica chairman and chief executive Gaston Pavlovich. “Seeing the dynamism of their team, the experience of their senior executives, and their shared vision for creating powerful content, we decided to entrust STX Entertainment with The Irishman as the best possible partner to handle the international distribution for this project. They are passionate about film and were excited to be such an important part of creating this long-awaited collaboration between the legendary actors and director, which will be a milestone in film history. The Irishman is an event on a global scale, and Adam and David are innovative and entrepreneurs with one of the best executive teams working in the business today.”

    http://deadline.com/2016/05/martin-scorsese-the-irishman-stx-huge-deal-mob-films-cannes-1201756232/


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    #35
    Sad Professor
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    I've moved this into a new thread, Agent. Too many old faces best forgotten in that other thread.


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    #36
    The Black Oil
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    I remember De Niro discussing this on the David Letterman show, must have been 5-6 years ago. Had been wondering what was going on with it.

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

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    #37
    Skerries
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    what's the plot?
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    #38
    Boo Radley
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    Skerries wrote: »
    what's the plot?

    It's a dark and gritty superhero story of a man with powers such as:

    - The gift of the gab

    - Cute whoreness

    - Super-human hospitality skills

    Basically Scorsese wants in on the Marvel action.


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    #39
    Agent Coulson
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    It's based on the life of Frank Sheeran who before he died confessed to killing Jimmy Hoffa.

    It will be based on the book.... I Heard You Paint Houses.

    It's also the movie that will bring Joe Pesci out of retirement.


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    #40
    WHIP IT!
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    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    It's based on the life of Frank Sheeran who before he died confessed to killing Jimmy Hoffa.

    It will be based on the book.... I Heard You Paint Houses.

    It's also the movie that will bring Joe Pesci out of retirement.

    It all sounds great and I enjoyed the book... but I can't help thinking all of the stars have just gotten too old in the meantime... hopefully I'm wrong and it's a cracker...


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    WHIP IT! wrote: »
    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    It's based on the life of Frank Sheeran who before he died confessed to killing Jimmy Hoffa.

    It will be based on the book.... I Heard You Paint Houses.

    It's also the movie that will bring Joe Pesci out of retirement.

    It all sounds great and I enjoyed the book... but I can't help thinking all of the stars have just gotten too old in the meantime... hopefully I'm wrong and it's a cracker...
    With the right script and a director like Scorcese they will all be back to their best, I have no doubt. Perhaps the Swansong the likes of De Niro have been waiting for the last 5 to 10 years


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    #42
    shazzerman
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    With the right script and a director like Scorcese they will all be back to their best, I have no doubt. Perhaps the Swansong the likes of De Niro have been waiting for the last 5 to 10 years

    A director like Scorsese in the 1970s-1980s (and a couple of outstanding films in the 1990s), maybe; post-millennium Marty has been a bit of an embarrassment, I think.


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    #43
    Canadel
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    shazzerman wrote: »
    A director like Scorsese in the 1970s-1980s (and a couple of outstanding films in the 1990s), maybe; post-millennium Marty has been a bit of an embarrassment, I think.
    Bit of an exaggeration?

    Though I'll admit The Wolf of Wall Street was one of the worst supposedly good movies I've ever been subjected to. Total trash.

    This new adventure doesn't excite me in the slightest. It's been done. Numerous times. Move on.


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    #44
    shazzerman
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    Canadel wrote: »
    Bit of an exaggeration?

    Though I'll admit The Wolf of Wall Street was one of the worst supposedly good movies I've ever been subjected to. Total trash.

    This new adventure doesn't excite me in the slightest. It's been done. Numerous times. Move on.

    Yeah, maybe a tad exaggerated there. Still, I've not been impressed with most everything Scorsese's done in features since Casino. The Aviator was about the best film he's directed since that masterpiece. Not holding my breath for The Irishman - but there is a small hope that the cast might decide that this is something of a special occasion and decide to go for it.


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    #45
    ScummyMan
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    shazzerman wrote: »
    Yeah, maybe a tad exaggerated there. Still, I've not been impressed with most everything Scorsese's done in features since Casino. The Aviator was about the best film he's directed since that masterpiece. Not holding my breath for The Irishman - but there is a small hope that the cast might decide that this is something of a special occasion and decide to go for it.

    That's more than a tad exaggerated imo. The Departed is one of the best films of the last 20 years, and Shutter Island and Gangs of New York weren't exactly duds.


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    #46
    Agent Coulson
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    This is also a film that everyone involved has wanted to make for a nearly decade I see it myself as probably there swansong to the era they all come from.


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    #47
    Duggy747
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    Aaah poo, Joe Pesci has apparently said no to the film. :(


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    #48
    Sad Professor
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    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Aaah poo, Joe Pesci has apparently said no to the film. :(

    That's been misreported. He has said no in the past because he's retired but Scorsese still thinks he can convince him.


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    #49
    ricero
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    Why did pesci retire in the first place ? Great actor


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    #50
    Agent Coulson
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    ricero wrote: »
    Why did pesci retire in the first place ? Great actor

    To make music from what I remember and just enjoy life.


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    shazzerman wrote: »
    Deleted User wrote: »
    With the right script and a director like Scorcese they will all be back to their best, I have no doubt. Perhaps the Swansong the likes of De Niro have been waiting for the last 5 to 10 years

    A director like Scorsese in the 1970s-1980s (and a couple of outstanding films in the 1990s), maybe; post-millennium Marty has been a bit of an embarrassment, I think.
    Wolf of Wall Street, Vinyl, Boardwalk Empire in the last 5 years alone...all outstanding. I mean what is not an embarrassment if they are?


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    #52
    shazzerman
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Wolf of Wall Street, Vinyl, Boardwalk Empire in the last 5 years alone...all outstanding. I mean what is not an embarrassment if they are?

    A director like Scorsese, not a producer like Scorsese...(1 episode on Boardwalk, same with Vinyl). My disappointment with Scorsese comes from comparing his best work with his recent work. It is the enormous gulf between them that I find "a bit embarrassing." To me, The Departed and The Wolf of Wall Street are embarrassing films - I cringe through large swathes of both when I have to watch them. The Wolf of Wall Street, in terms of filmmaking art, is nowhere near the level of Casino, for instance (both films share something in terms of narrative and themes). The Departed is just ugly characters shouting at each other, put over with Scorsese's affinity for the genre - but I hated it. Casino, The King of Comedy, Taxi Driver and Raging Bull are four of the very best American films ever made; nothing in the 2000s comes close to any of those, for me - and two of them actually make me feel embarrassment when I watch them. I think the problem might be Scorsese's ramping up what Bordwell calls the "intensified continuity" style; aligning this with what I see as a mis-match between director and screenplay - on The Departed, William Monahan didn't have the relationship with Scorsese that Schrader, Mardik Martin,and Pileggi had, for example. The script is completely plot-driven, with the characters an uninteresting bunch of nervous tics and uninspired dialogue. The only scene that really works in The Departed, I think, is the opening "I don't want to be a product of my environment. I want my environment to be a product of me" sequence. It works as a call-back to other great Scorsese scenes more than anything else (Mean Streets, Goodfellas), but the rest of the film lets it down. The Wolf of Wall Street is, for me, just another bunch of even uglier characters, making more noise, and very little of it having any relationship with great cinema.


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    Canadel
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Wolf of Wall Street, Vinyl, Boardwalk Empire in the last 5 years alone...all outstanding. I mean what is not an embarrassment if they are?
    One of the worst movies ever made.

    Probably the worst supposedly good movie I've seen.

    Total amateurish trash.

    The Departed I think is a very good movie though.


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    #54
    McLoughlin
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    Hugo is a fantastic film and the way 3D is used by Scorsese is amazing but its 3D so no one cared about it.


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    Sad Professor
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    The problem with Wolf of Wall Street is that it makes no judgments on its characters and offers no answers either. But this is also part of its brilliance. As much as we scoff at the moralism of Hays code films, it's still hard to deal with a film so utterly benefit of redemption. The film feels like Scorsese's answer to Scarface and Wall Street, very moral films that were trying to denounce their vile protagonists but only succeeded in glorifying them even further. Ironically by totally embracing Belfort's worldview and by actively trying to glorify his excesses, Scorsese captures the sickness of greed from the inside better than any other film ever has.

    We may hate now, but it's a very important film. And I think time will show that.


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    A bit OTT on the Wolf of Wall Street....are people looking for some moral decision making by the director or what? Embarrassment and one of the worst films ever made...hardly! I thought Scorcese captured perfectly the greed and arrogance of a time, and depicted it with the looseness it deserved. Ugly characters yes, but many of the great characters are, Gorden Gecko the perfect example.

    Vinyl was a close to 2 hour pilot if i remember correctly, it was a movie in its own right and really outstanding. Scorcese is a long way from losing his touch. Vinyl was the last thing he did and I thought it was up there with the best pilots I had ever seen.


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    shazzerman
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    A bit OTT on the Wolf of Wall Street....are people looking for some moral decision making by the director or what? Embarrassment and one of the worst films ever made...hardly! I thought Scorcese captured perfectly the greed and arrogance of a time, and depicted it with the looseness it deserved. Ugly characters yes, but many of the great characters are, Gorden Gecko the perfect example.

    Vinyl was a close to 2 hour pilot if i remember correctly, it was a movie in its own right and really outstanding. Scorcese is a long way from losing his touch. Vinyl was the last thing he did and I thought it was up there with the best pilots I had ever seen.

    One man's "looseness" is another man's "reverence."


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    #58
    JP Liz V1
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    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Aaah poo, Joe Pesci has apparently said no to the film. :(

    Chazz Palminteri as replacement for Joe?
    https://forumofgames.com/




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    #59
    cowboyBuilder
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    shazzerman wrote: »
    A director like Scorsese in the 1970s-1980s (and a couple of outstanding films in the 1990s), maybe; post-millennium Marty has been a bit of an embarrassment, I think.


    The Departed and Wolf of Wall street ... excellent films.

    Maybe you are right about Gangs of New York tho ..


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    Sad Professor
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    Gangs of New York is really good, just compromised by studio interference in post-production.


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    JohnFalstaff
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    Sad Professor wrote: »
    Gangs of New York is really good, just compromised by studio interference in post-production.

    I'll defend The Wolf of Wall Street all day long as one of Scorsese's best, but Gangs of New York is a bit of a mess. It has its moments, and a great central performance form Daniel Day Lewis, but studio interference must have been way beyond post-production; anytime Cameron Diaz is on screen the whole thing comes crashing down.


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