Famous Dublin pubs that are no more

ShyMets · 13-06-2020 9:55am

Mcdaids on Harry St do something similar. They have Established 1779. Now technically that's correct, as there has been a building on that site since 1779. But its only been a pub for about 150 years or so

Chalk McHugh · 14-06-2020 11:21am

It's hard to imagine people sipping beer and spirits in the Brazen Head back in 1198. Wonder what the clientelle was like. Or the dress code? Did they shut up shop for a couple of hours during the day? What were the toilets like? Or bit of music? Anyone got any pictures?

ShyMets · 14-06-2020 11:33am

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

It's hard to imagine people sipping beer and spirits in the Brazen Head back in 1198. Wonder what the clientelle was like. Or the dress code? Did they shut up shop for a couple of hours during the day? What were the toilets like? Or bit of music? Anyone got any pictures?

Its probably the case that there has been a building on that site since 1198.

But we can be pretty sure of two things; A: it was always a pub & B: its not the same building

roycon111 · 23-07-2020 4:44pm

Great article on the Depeche Mode photo i posted a few months back in the Hill16 pub for anyone who hasn't seen it. From the always great (if a little bit twee) Dublin by pub

https://www.dublinbypub.ie/news/blog/jack-charlton-depeche-mode

tricky D · 23-07-2020 5:32pm

roycon111 wrote: »

Great article on the Depeche Mode photo i posted a few months back in the Hill16 pub for anyone who hasn't seen it. From the always great (if a little bit twee) Dublin by pub

https://www.dublinbypub.ie/news/blog/jack-charlton-depeche-mode

I've just had a big penny drop.

I now remember the 'little old dear' from when I lived on Mountjoy Square. The Jack Charlton connection is a bit ironic as she was the only living soul on the street during that day during Italia 90 in a surreal deserted city scene like from The Twilight Zone where she was the only creature or machine stirring.

23-07-2020 7:14pm

ShyMets wrote: »

Its probably the case that there has been a building on that site since 1198.

But we can be pretty sure of two things; A: it was always a pub & B: its not the same building

What is the oldest building continuously occupied as a pub in Dublin? Does anyone know?

It just might be the Brazen Head, built 1754. which does seem to have operated continuously since then.

Obviously 1198 is pure fantasy, as (I suspect) is their claim to have accommodated Robert Emmet, and later, Michael Collins, as they planned for revolution.

Kaybaykwah · 23-07-2020 7:31pm

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

It's hard to imagine people sipping beer and spirits in the Brazen Head back in 1198. Wonder what the clientelle was like. Or the dress code? Did they shut up shop for a couple of hours during the day? What were the toilets like? Or bit of music? Anyone got any pictures?

The Vikings were big on Aurora Borealis, and there was a weak but quaint attempt at an early led light scheme. The original owner was from an old Viking settler family. The Anglo-Norman/Irish couple that bought him out later added the little barrels that later transmogrified into the coffee tables that Irish pubs became known for in later times. The led lights were simply jars filled with fireflies strung over the bar. That little feature had everything to do with the fact the place became the best pick up joint after the bog that later became known as the Phoenix Park.

L1011 · 23-07-2020 8:26pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

What is the oldest building continuously occupied as a pub in Dublin? Does anyone know?

It just might be the Brazen Head, built 1754. which does seem to have operated continuously since then.

Obviously 1198 is pure fantasy, as (I suspect) is their claim to have accommodated Robert Emmet, and later, Michael Collins, as they planned for revolution.

With the volume of the core city removed by the Wide Streets Commission post 1758; there's really not a lot of older non-ecclesiastical or administrative buildings left in the core. And I don't think any of the 1600s Aungier or Thomas Street buildings were pubs, or more accurately, still are in the case of at least of the old Thomas Street ones. The shortly to be opened "Johns" on Thomas Street is on the site of a 17th century pub but it hasn't been a pub for centuries either.

Its possible that some of the County Dublin village pubs are older. The Blue Light claims to be "300" for instance.

Busman Paddy Lasty · 23-07-2020 10:06pm

L1011 wrote: »

Its possible that some of the County Dublin village pubs are older. The Blue Light claims to be "300" for instance.

Man O'War and The Balrothery Inn claim over 400 years in existence. Way off topic but interesting.

Kaybaykwah · 24-07-2020 2:44am

Busman Paddy Lasty wrote: »

Man O'War and The Balrothery Inn claim over 400 years in existence. Way off topic but interesting.

It is said that Christ himself used to visit Sean's bar in Athlone, after mass.

Carfacemandog · 24-07-2020 3:07am

schemingbohemia wrote: »

Haven't been around there in ages but grew up nearby (Ballyboden) thought that place would be there forever.

Just an update - it's now a funeral home that looks strangely like a cafe or interior design studio from the outside.

https://i.prcdn.co/img?regionKey=2QX02VKVMuURZriAYjI8Nw%3D%3D

ShyMets · 24-07-2020 10:32am

L1011 wrote: »

With the volume of the core city removed by the Wide Streets Commission post 1758; there's really not a lot of older non-ecclesiastical or administrative buildings left in the core. And I don't think any of the 1600s Aungier or Thomas Street buildings were pubs, or more accurately, still are in the case of at least of the old Thomas Street ones. The shortly to be opened "Johns" on Thomas Street is on the site of a 17th century pub but it hasn't been a pub for centuries either.

Its possible that some of the County Dublin village pubs are older. The Blue Light claims to be "300" for instance.

The Mullingar House in Chapelizod claims to have established in the mid 1600's. Which is plausible as it was once a coach house and Inn

L1011 · 24-07-2020 11:08am

ShyMets wrote: »

The Mullingar House in Chapelizod claims to have established in the mid 1600's. Which is plausible as it was once a coach house and Inn

NIAH says no to either the building age or the continuous use, though; albeit its not always 100% accurate

https://www.buildingsofireland.ie/buildings-search/building/50060641/mullingar-house-main-street-chapelizod-dublin-20-dublin-city

There really aren't that many 17th century or earlier non church/admin buildings around; cause they were built out of wood mostly. Brick started being heavily used in the mid/late 17th century in Dublin so those are the bulk of the oldest.

tabbey · 24-07-2020 6:53pm

Busman Paddy Lasty wrote: »

Man O'War and The Balrothery Inn claim over 400 years in existence. Way off topic but interesting.

How about the boot Inn at the back of the airport?

Busman Paddy Lasty · 24-07-2020 8:20pm

tabbey wrote: »

How about the boot Inn at the back of the airport?

1593 apparently. Beats the Man O'War by two years if all claims can be proven.

Gavin "shels" · 27-07-2020 9:36pm

O'Shea's aka The Merchant on the Quays looks like it may be closed down or just getting a very deep clean...

Strumms · 03-08-2020 9:57pm

Gavin shels wrote: »

O'Shea's aka The Merchant on the Quays looks like it may be closed down or just getting a very deep clean...

It’s a bit of an institution so hopefully just a deep clean. Nothing of their social media that would in anyway suggest its closing time.

Clon63 · 04-08-2020 4:25pm

Saw that Bakers on Thomas Street is not reopening. More a lical pub than a famous pub. Close enough to work though so had a few pints there.

Strumms · 05-08-2020 2:23am

So did I... always a nice spot for pre vicar st drinks... a really nice old school boozer.

BonnieSituation · 05-08-2020 10:51am

Clon63 wrote: »

Saw that Bakers on Thomas Street is not reopening. More a lical pub than a famous pub. Close enough to work though so had a few pints there.

That's a shame. Was my grandad's local along with the Clock up until he died in 97, well, til 94 before he got really sick.

Shame to see it go.

I dread that Tom Kennedy's might go the same way.

L1011 · 05-08-2020 10:52am

Kennedy's and the Clock are both open as it stands; so I'd expect they'll be OK

Around the corner the Lark Inn's signage is down.

BonnieSituation · 05-08-2020 10:54am

L1011 wrote: »

Kennedy's and the Clock are both open as it stands; so I'd expect they'll be OK

Around the corner the Lark Inn's signage is down.

I haven't dandered near town at all since April really. Phew.

Bonniedog · 05-08-2020 11:07am

Rodgers on Thomas St. Across the lane from Vicar St. Was owned by two mad old brothers (1980s) who only opened when they felt like it!

Used to go in the odd time when working on street. One time, the chap who was with me copped on that one of the brothers was topping his pint up out of the cold tap!

When he complained we were thrown out.

O'Reillys/The Limelight further up the street near Guinnesses was another mad shop, also owned by two brothers from Cavan. Used to be good spot until they got a pool table and load of dirtballs moved in. Thomas Street had a lot of good pubs until numbers working around the place dropped - Winstanleys, Irish distillers etc. Thomas House was great music venue in 80s. Long before current place of same name.

L1011 · 05-08-2020 12:01pm

Sackville has gone again. Statement on their website

BonnieSituation · 05-08-2020 12:03pm

L1011 wrote: »

Sackville has gone again. Statement on their website

Sake.

That's bad news. Was delighted with it reopening.

tabbey · 05-08-2020 2:29pm

[quote="Bonniedog;114223933". One time, the chap who was with me copped on that one of the brothers was topping his pint up out of the cold tap!

When he complained we were thrown out.
[/quote]

I hope you mentioned it when their licence was up for renewal or at least reported it to the environmental health officer.

Bonniedog · 05-08-2020 3:44pm

tabbey wrote: »

I hope you mentioned it when their licence was up for renewal or at least reported it to the environmental health officer.

Of course I did

As for the license, I think - not 100% on this - that Vicar St. bought the old pub and that's where they got their license.

Haven't been up Thomas St. in years but seem to recall hearing that Lynch's was gone. Used to be called the "Gunman's". And apparently that was connected not to anything recently but to arms dump Robert Emmet had on the premises in 1803! That was a real nice old pub. Building must have been hundreds of years old.

doughef · 06-08-2020 7:48am

Gavin "shels" wrote: »

O'Shea's aka The Merchant on the Quays looks like it may be closed down or just getting a very deep clean...

Is that not a direct provision Centre these days?

Gavin "shels" · 06-08-2020 12:55pm

doughef wrote: »

Is that not a direct provision Centre these days?

The accommodation upstairs I think, not the bar itself.

L1011 · 06-08-2020 5:57pm

New owners of the Sackville (same directors as Mulligan and Haines on Dame Street) have said they'll reopen it

roycon111 · 11-09-2020 1:40pm

Two uploaded to Wikipedia today

The Foggy Dew in 1987
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bar_in_Fownes_Street,_Temple_Bar,_in_1987_(geograph_2053796).jpg

O'Hooley's in 1993
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:OHooleys_Bar,_Gardiner_Row_(geograph_3301827).jpg

Geuze · 11-09-2020 1:44pm

L1011 wrote: »

Around the corner the Lark Inn's signage is down.

I took a seat at the bar there, with an empty seat between me and the next customer.

Later, my friend arrived, and moved to take the empty seat.

The customer frisked my friend, as he wanted to check he wasn't an undercover Garda.

He subsequently explained he is related to both the Hutch and Kinahan families.

Cienciano · 12-09-2020 10:09pm

roycon111 wrote: »

Two uploaded to Wikipedia today

The Foggy Dew in 1987
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bar_in_Fownes_Street,_Temple_Bar,_in_1987_(geograph_2053796).jpg

O'Hooley's in 1993
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:OHooleys_Bar,_Gardiner_Row_(geograph_3301827).jpg

LOL, I remember the weird graffiti fad back then of putting arrows on the end of the letter Y.

Open the Pubs · 17-09-2020 4:25pm

Any news on pubs closing for good because of pandemic/restrictions?

septictank · 17-09-2020 4:31pm

Cienciano wrote: »

LOL, I remember the weird graffiti fad back then of putting arrows on the end of the letter Y.

Came from The Who, Was a Mod thing, any letter you could stick an arrow on was cool.

Ned Led Zeppo · 17-09-2020 4:36pm

anncoates wrote: »

The New Inn

Bartley Dunnes (Break for the border now roughly on the site)

William Tell (Hairy Lemon now on the site)

The Falcon Inn (Bleeding Horse now on the site although I think it was also called that pre-Falcon)

Bartley Dunnes used to do a savage salad roll, the size of a submarine. :mad:

L1011 · 17-09-2020 6:34pm

Open the Pubs wrote: »

Any news on pubs closing for good because of pandemic/restrictions?

Handful so far. Donaghmede Inn, Bakers Thomas Street, Queens in Dalkey, McCanns, Cardiff Inn, Pimlico Tavern

I'd expect most of those to reopen with new operators when its all blown over, could be quite some time though. Queens is probably going to be redeveloped and the Pimlico Tavern's goodbye post implied that its going to be converted to another use; however it being D8 it could just be a restaurant bar!

killbillvol2 · 17-09-2020 7:41pm

L1011 wrote: »

Handful so far. Donaghmede Inn, Bakers Thomas Street, Queens in Dalkey, McCanns, Cardiff Inn, Pimlico Tavern

I'd expect most of those to reopen with new operators when its all blown over, could be quite some time though. Queens is probably going to be redeveloped and the Pimlico Tavern's goodbye post implied that its going to be converted to another use; however it being D8 it could just be a restaurant bar!

The Pimlico Tavern has risen from the dead a few times. I wouldn't write it off yet!

Open the Pubs · 17-09-2020 8:01pm

L1011 wrote: »

Handful so far. Donaghmede Inn, Bakers Thomas Street, Queens in Dalkey, McCanns, Cardiff Inn, Pimlico Tavern

I'd expect most of those to reopen with new operators when its all blown over, could be quite some time though. Queens is probably going to be redeveloped and the Pimlico Tavern's goodbye post implied that its going to be converted to another use; however it being D8 it could just be a restaurant bar!

That is good news! Was concerned there would be a wipeout, but not too bad so far.

Is there a reason many pubs that are open now, are only open 3-4 days a week with reduced hours? Is it something to do with the Wage subsidy scheme. I'm back down the country at the moment but the few pubs here that have been open the past few months are only opening from Thurs/Fri to Sunday at the moment.

L1011 · 17-09-2020 9:06pm

Lack of business - not down to the subsidy scheme. And its happening in Dublin too, the pub near my office is Wednesday-Sunday only currently. They tried full operation for the first two weeks or so and had staff paid to come in to stare at the wall Monday/Tuesday.

The drop-in-for-a-pint customers that kept the lights on early in the week aren't going in for dinner. Some will be back when the €9 rule is dropped.

Hodors Appletart · 17-09-2020 10:22pm

rumours locally that the cardiff will be developed into apartments

beertons · 18-09-2020 9:26am

I service vending machines in pubs. Had 50 sites before all this, around Dublin. Currently only 25 open now. And it's not looking good for the rest of them.

Hynes, formerly The Bannerman, in Stoneybatter is gone. Apartments.

L1011 · 18-09-2020 9:37am

Hynes was up for sale for redevelopment last year, no planning in yet.

Unknownability · 18-09-2020 10:34pm

L1011 wrote: »

Hynes was up for sale for redevelopment last year, no planning in yet.

Glad I get into that one, unusual in it having a snooker room at the front.

BonnieSituation · 19-09-2020 2:29am

Unknownability wrote: »

Glad I get into that one, unusual in it having a snooker room at the front.

I have spent the last 15years saying I must pop in. I even lived in Stoneybatter back in 2011, and got too hung up on having O'Gara's as my local to go anywhere else.

Sake. That's my own fault.

L1011 · 19-09-2020 2:30am

I've been to 596* different pubs in Dublin and didn't make it in there, so don't be too hard on yourself!

*using licence number counting. Take out some duplicates and add in places that have closed and its more like 610

BonnieSituation · 19-09-2020 2:41am

Given a similar proclivity to yourself it's just bad pub attendance management.

jkmanc1974 · 19-09-2020 2:05pm

Presume with the Donaghmede Inn gone leaves no pub around for a massive catchment area?

The Master · 19-09-2020 2:11pm

jkmanc1974 wrote: »

Presume with the Donaghmede Inn gone leaves no pub around for a massive catchment area?

Nearest Pubs are now
Madigan's in Kilbarrack
Foxhound in Greendale
Raccecourse in Baldoyle
Or The various pubs in Raheny

Sultan of Bling · 19-09-2020 2:12pm

The Master wrote:

Nearest Pubs are now Madigan's in Kilbarrack Foxhound in Greendale Raccecourse in Baldoyle Or The various pubs in Raheny

I heard the foxhound is not opening either

Famous Dublin pubs that are no more

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