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The Last Word

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Absolutely. The world is a worse place for partisan media. You'd think Matt, of all people, would know that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,037 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Should be more impartial. It's important that people hear both sides of an argument. Otherwise it's just Fox News all over again

    Its unprofessional.

    The host of TV shows and debates is meant to be impartial.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,869 ✭✭✭Ahwell


    How come the same posters were never in the George Hook thread railing against his complete lack of impartially? Or is being biased OK, as long as it reflects your own set of biases?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,270 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    The Last Word boiled my blood yesterday.

    They brushed over the Simon Zebo racism accusation in the game against Ulster. It got about 45 seconds, with the usual "theres no place for this in the game" comment from the contributor being the size of what was said.

    Contrast that to the discussion that was had on the show following the Raheem Sterling incident against Chelsea a few weeks ago. It got loads of air time.

    I think its a case of Matt deciding that rugby fans are jolly good blokes who pass around hip flasks while soccer fans are scumbag hooligans.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    What time did they cover that story at?

    Racing didn't release their statement saying it was racist abuse until very late in the day yesterday.

    Even Off the Ball had to rejig their schedule to cover the racist aspect of it as they were caught out by the timing of the statement.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,270 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    What time did they cover that story at?

    Racing didn't release their statement saying it was racist abuse until very late in the day yesterday.

    Even Off the Ball had to rejig their schedule to cover the racist aspect of it as they were caught out by the timing of the statement.

    About 6.50. Wallace gave a short answer when asked to comment by Matt and then he moved on to talk with Wallace and Francis about Joey Carbery for about 5 minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    They had about 5 minutes of the show to discuss the weekends rugby at the point of which the statement was released, around the time they rugby segment started. Wallace and Francis wouldn't have seen the statement at that point, so they answered as well as could be expected.

    I don't think there was any editorial decision to ignore a racist incident just because it was rugby.


  • Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭Dr_serious2


    Telling that there has not been any post on here in a month before yesterday. People are tuning out and Matt can thank his PC self and his snowflake production team.


  • Registered Users Posts: 751 ✭✭✭quintana76


    Telling that there has not been any post on here in a month before yesterday. People are tuning out and Matt can thank his PC self and his snowflake production team.

    Get woke go broke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,270 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    Hurrache wrote: »
    They had about 5 minutes of the show to discuss the weekends rugby at the point of which the statement was released, around the time they rugby segment started. Wallace and Francis wouldn't have seen the statement at that point, so they answered as well as could be expected.

    I don't think there was any editorial decision to ignore a racist incident just because it was rugby.

    Zebo tweeted about "Django winning in the end" on Sunday. Cooper and the contributors would have been well aware of that.

    Did they spend a few minutes talking about it on yesterdays show seen as they would have had over 24 hours to fully digest the Racing statement.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Dayton Wide Oyster


    Doing a Games slot now - wow another fantastic bit from the content creating geniuses at today fm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Makes me glad I've mostly stopped listening. Drivetime is as dull as dishwater but at least it doesn't make me want to throw things at the radio. It's a sorry slow decline for a once excellent radio show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Dayton Wide Oyster


    I could see Ferg D;arcy or maybe the Louise Duffy show doing a games slot....WTF would Matt Cooper know, he probably hasn't played one since Atari was out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,037 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I have more or less stopped listening to the show now.
    It just grinds on me too much.
    Usually RTE1 for me at that time, sometimes NT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭jay0109


    Cooper has run the show into the ground. It used to be serious, current affairs, sport etc and heavy hitting. Now it's gone very consumerish, a magazine type show. If thats what Today FM want, they should perhaps look at getting a younger presenter in that would be closer to the target audience they seem to be going after.

    Today FM did the same to their Sunday morning show a few years back. Sam Smyth ran a very good programme, a real alternative to Marian Finucane. But he fell foul of God and the show moved on to total dumbed down puff radio. Last I heard it had morphed into a Mario Rosenstock promo vehicle.
    Grand, there probably is some sort of an audience for that type of stuff. But I'm not one of them


  • Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭canonball5


    jay0109 wrote: »
    Cooper has run the show into the ground. It used to be serious, current affairs, sport etc and heavy hitting. Now it's gone very consumerish, a magazine type show. If thats what Today FM want, they should perhaps look at getting a younger presenter in that would be closer to the target audience they seem to be going after.

    Today FM did the same to their Sunday morning show a few years back. Sam Smyth ran a very good programme, a real alternative to Marian Finucane. But he fell foul of God and the show moved on to total dumbed down puff radio. Last I heard it had morphed into a Mario Rosenstock promo vehicle.
    Grand, there probably is some sort of an audience for that type of stuff. But I'm not one of them

    Jesus wept, has anyone heard that Mario Rosenstock show? I've no idea what they were thinking, it's a shambles of a show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Dayton Wide Oyster


    canonball5 wrote: »
    Jesus wept, has anyone heard that Mario Rosenstock show? I've no idea what they were thinking, it's a shambles of a show.

    Mario's only talent is how he was able to stretch a career for nearly 20 years...he was funny up till about 2005 and has gone downhill and overexposed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,526 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    canonball5 wrote: »
    Jesus wept, has anyone heard that Mario Rosenstock show? I've no idea what they were thinking, it's a shambles of a show.

    I accidentally found myself in a car one sunday morning and that show came on. Luckily i crashed shortly afterwards, which broke the radio


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,037 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Flicked on to it tonight in the car.

    They were discussing parents with alcohol issues.

    Some woman was chatting, giving her point of view, experiences etc.

    It was at the end when Matt said "thanks Larissa Nolan".
    Doesn't she do TV/film and music reviews for the show too?
    She is a real jack of all trades, or why do TodayFM have such a limited supply of contributors?

    Is it because they refuse to speak to a large section of those involved in the media due to their ban?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,616 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Larissa has become the 'go to female contrarian' for The Last Word.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭PhoneMain


    Larissa has become the 'go to female contrarian' for The Last Word.


    Not to forget Karl Deiter who was spouting some rubbish about extending school hours with no research or science behind it. I don't know what the outcome was, I turned over fairly quick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,037 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Funny, I like Karl, usually fairly honest about the homelessness crisis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Dayton Wide Oyster


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Flicked on to it tonight in the car.

    They were discussing parents with alcohol issues.

    Some woman was chatting, giving her point of view, experiences etc.

    It was at the end when Matt said "thanks Larissa Nolan".
    Doesn't she do TV/film and music reviews for the show too?
    She is a real jack of all trades, or why do TodayFM have such a limited supply of contributors?

    Is it because they refuse to speak to a large section of those involved in the media due to their ban?
    theyre limited by the times ban, that's why they're stuck with AOife Barry from the Journal (and others from that "news site") who wouldn't get near another tv/radio show, Roe McDermot, Jennifer Gannon.....They've also had Louise Duffy doing TV and the week in review bit on Fridays (in fairness she wasn't bad at the Friday Gig when she put a shrill sjw in her place)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,037 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I really think MC is past his sell-by on TLW now.

    But I have no idea who could replace him, probably someone even more right-on and PC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Dayton Wide Oyster


    NIMAN wrote: »
    I really think MC is past his sell-by on TLW now.

    But I have no idea who could replace him, probably someone even more right-on and PC.

    might go female for this role Gannon, Barry or Roe McDermott....ugghhhhh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,616 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Matt has gone down the "both sideism" strategy and often holds meaningless debates with extreme views on both sides with the usual suspects.

    The 11pm show on Virgin Media is now doing the same thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,037 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Matt has gone down the "both sideism" strategy and often holds meaningless debates with extreme views on both sides with the usual suspects.

    The 11pm show on Virgin Media is now doing the same thing.

    Have only ever caught that show a handful of times, and its awful generally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    Yeah he's from he communications clinic, whatever that is, the other McDermott is on 2FM at the same time as The Last Word.

    Did they mention that other footballers at the awards show were asked dance questions too? Mbappe had to actually dance!

    The Communications Clinic?

    A great bunch of lads...and the delightful Terry Prone.

    Google “Kate Fitzgerald” and “The Communications Clinic”.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭5555555555


    theyre limited by the times ban, that's why they're stuck with AOife Barry from the Journal (and others from that "news site") who wouldn't get near another tv/radio show, Roe McDermot, Jennifer Gannon.....They've also had Louise Duffy doing TV and the week in review bit on Fridays (in fairness she wasn't bad at the Friday Gig when she put a shrill sjw in her place)

    Can someone please tell Matt that Jennifer Gannon writes for the Irish Times ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Dayton Wide Oyster


    5555555555 wrote: »
    Can someone please tell Matt that Jennifer Gannon writes for the Irish Times ?

    sadly i think she's freelance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭dirkmeister


    I had to take a phone call just as they were beginning to discuss the New Zealand story this evening.

    I presume my radio avoided having my boot put through it at the complete reluctance to call a spade a spade?!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    I had to take a phone call just as they were beginning to discuss the New Zealand story this evening.

    I presume my radio avoided having my boot put through it at the complete reluctance to call a spade a spade?!?

    Was worse than that, the female contributor admonished the kiwi press for hammering the family and claimed it was another example of prejudice against travellers, that the woman who the kid threatened with having her brains knocked out, was worse as she called him a little ****

    She also described the offenses as minor and that there were two sides to every story


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,037 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Was worse than that, the female contributor admonished the kiwi press for hammering the family and claimed it was another example of prejudice against travellers, that the woman who the kid threatened with having her brains knocked out, was worse as she called him a little ****

    She also described the offenses as minor and that there were two sides to every story

    Glad I didn't hear that piece today, my blood would have boiled.

    No, the NZ authorities called it like it was. The mayor even called them ar$eholes ffs!! To make a mayor use that language you can guess how pissed off he was.

    And there was a fully documented trail of destruction and unpaid bills on the families travels over there. To try to defend them shows just how afraid we are in this country to say anything bad about travellers.

    They weren't even Irish, they were British so they should get slagged fully without fear of any rebuke.

    Yet another example of how TLW has gone so PC that it doesn't want to offend anyone any more (except white males perhaps?)


  • Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭Dr_serious2


    Matt has no courage at all, never challenges these people about their crazy stance on almost every issue.

    He had Aoife Barry on talking about the Gillete Ad during the week. Jesus wept.

    What exactly qualifies her to speak on that matter, as a matter of interest?

    Next week: Jennifer Gannon discusses quantum physics; Pamela Joyce on the origins of Aboriginal languages and Eoghan McDemott (from the Communications Clinic) talks about the hottest must-have bikinis for summer 2019.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭jay0109


    4.30 - 5pm every Friday on TLW is Liberal HQ. As mentioned above, the NZ story was turned into having a go at the Kiwi's for showing 'prejudice against the Irish' :confused:
    Kate Brennan Harding actually said that!

    It was clear she didn't know the full story because the audio they played of that 7yo threatening the woman with the camera phone took place at the beach. Kate claimed it was from the court house where the child was in angst being surrounded by adults in authority positions and so he had to fight back to protect his corner. It was a stunning angle to take but she got away with it, no challenege from the 2 others.

    Cooper went for the 'what-aboutery' angle. Irih people rubbish at home as well as abroad he said, sure have you seen the canals in Dublin when the good weather hits and everyone is out drinking. And he's seen a video of people dumping rubbish from their cars at some cross-roads in ballygobackwards.

    And that is why we have such a problem in this country with law and order and basic civility. It's never the minorities fault, it's always someone else's. The media and those in positions of influence are always ready to pass the buck on to the back of the general populace rather than go hard on the few who make life so hard for everyone else.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Dayton Wide Oyster


    just saw that Harding twitter page....just ughhhhh

    Someone called her out for her bending over backwards for them and she said its only a family guilty of littering an petty pilfering....yikes this is the same as Louise o Neill and John Connors defending the aldi break in last year


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 113 ✭✭Prince William


    Kate Brennan Harding looks like the kind of girl who doesn't wear bikinis


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Dayton Wide Oyster


    Kate Brennan Harding looks like the kind of girl who doesn't wear bikinis
    probably gets offended if you offer to hold the door for her

    seems to get ahead/picked up in media is being an offended twat on twitter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    just saw that Harding twitter page....just ughhhhh

    Someone called her out for her bending over backwards for them and she said its only a family guilty of littering an petty pilfering....yikes this is the same as Louise o Neill and John Connors defending the aldi break in last year

    Yeah, she also claims to have worked with pavee point, your run of the mill right on liberal who's arrogance is only matched by their lack of common sense

    Apart from clearly never talking to regular people, they hold the same people in contempt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    just saw that Harding twitter page....just ughhhhh

    Someone called her out for her bending over backwards for them and she said its only a family guilty of littering an petty pilfering....yikes this is the same as Louise o Neill and John Connors defending the aldi break in last year


    I just had a look there now...she got schooled that person. Had to resort to old tried and trusted grammar nazi routine in the end.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    probably gets offended if you offer to hold the door for her

    seems to get ahead/picked up in media is being an offended twat on twitter

    Sure what do you need to get in the door at the likes of the last word other than complete devotion to PC orthodoxy?

    These are largely incredibly boring and intellectual mediocrities when you strip away the standard scripted Liberal dogma which you can see coming a mile away

    No original thought at all, just regurgitated left wing talking points they learned in whatever social studies degree they sat, our third level institutes are Liberal madrassas today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    There’s a simple solution here - send these Irish/British Travellers the video clip of Ciara Kelly saying travellers and their caravans are welcome in her neighbourhood in Greystones. When they arrive they can all sing “Come Bye Ah” together whilst toasting marshmallows over the campfire at night discussing the price of free range pheasant and prossecco in Cavistons, talking about how woke they all are, and watching the Gillette ad on repeat....and all that good stuff. All The Last Word’s Liberal Ladies and Men could move too to create a Republic Of Greystones with Ciara as the President, and Matt could be VP. Win win for everyone - esp. anyone outside of Greystones.


  • Registered Users Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Jayesdiem


    That one Sarah Maria Griffin made me switch off when they brought up the whole Fairytale of New York/f@ggot issue. Infinitely offended.


  • Registered Users Posts: 822 ✭✭✭newcavanman


    It says a lot about the current state of the Last Word, that this page has no activity in a week and a half . This evening Matt Cooper interviewed a Malawian woman in Direct Provision , for over 10 years , who is running in the local elections for the Social Democrats . As expected he gave her a very easy interview , lots of nice fluffy questions. Then he asked how she got to Ireland . He asked why she hadnt claimed asylum in the first EU country she arrived in .She was a bit hazy on the details but said she had flown direct from Ethiopia to Dublin . Im sure a quick check by him or one of his staff would have confirmed that direct flights from Ethiopia to Ireland began in 2015 , six years after this woman claimed she had done the journey. Also, Addis Ababa is 1800 miles from Malawi,he never bothered to ask might she have felt safe anywhere else on in sub saharan Africa , without having to travel all the way to Ireland. This is what is destroying the listening audience for Radio in this country . It seems to be essential in the media these days to have a full on left wing liberal disposition, anad a need to embrace every bleeding heart story that crosses your path. And what ever you do, dont dare ask any akward questions .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,645 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Ah but you see, he can't ask those tough questions for fear of being called a racist, same goes for the easy ride our nomadic friends get and the scumbags with multiple convictions who had hard up bringings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭jay0109


    She seems to have trafficked her 2 kids over to Ireland a few years after she got here or at least thats how it sounded. I was shocked at that but of course Cooper just let her talk away and never quizzed her on that bizarre tale


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,037 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Cooper is a joke at this stage.

    Thats why I tuned out a long time ago. Used to listen to the show religiously too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Was listening on Wednesday to the TV section whilst cooking. They had a feature on the "Top 30 Box Sets You See Before you Die". The guests were Gordon Hayden (who usually knows his stuff) and the head of digital from Today FM - who clearly didn't and isn't a tv reviewer (unlike the two female tv reviewers who haven't watched The Wire :rolleyes:). I didn't catch her name so apologies on that. Anyway, Matt says I'll read out the list. He gets to B and she starts interrupting incessantly. between her, Gordon and Matt they don't even know of I suspect at least 5 of the 30 shows....which is pretty poor IMO.

    They also discussed The Ted Bundy Tapes on Netflix. They talked for a while about it incl. elements like how they reconstructed some of the visuals, how they enhanced the audio etc. Matt said he had watched Episode 1 but wouldn't be watching the others - now I may be way off on this but I took it from his tone that he wouldn't be watching because Bundy's victims were women. It felt like some sort of virtue signalling protest. I'll again state I may be 100% wrong on this, but that's how it came across to me anyway. I have a difficulty with this coming from a seasoned journalist as if anything in order to comment on it he should have watched it all - even if only to criticise it afterwards. Did anyone else get this vibe from it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    jay0109 wrote: »
    She seems to have trafficked her 2 kids over to Ireland a few years after she got here or at least that's how it sounded. I was shocked at that but of course Cooper just let her talk away and never quizzed her on that bizarre tale


    It's just the latest in a long line of questions that need to be asked that he has shied away from. And ironically, it's this sort of unwillingness to ask uncomfortable questions that sows the seeds that lead on to Brexit and Donald Trump. That groundswell of support for Peter Casey should have been seen by the likes of Matt as a sign that they're not doing their jobs properly. But no, they simply dismissed his vote as small-minded racist Irish folk and did the old "move on, nothing to see here" shtick.


  • Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭Dr_serious2


    Compare Matt Coopers interview of Ibrahim Halawa with that of Neil Prendiville. Cooper fawns all over him while Prendiville has him squirming in his chair.


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