Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Hi all! We have been experiencing an issue on site where threads have been missing the latest postings. The platform host Vanilla are working on this issue. A workaround that has been used by some is to navigate back from 1 to 10+ pages to re-sync the thread and this will then show the latest posts. Thanks, Mike.
Hi there,
There is an issue with role permissions that is being worked on at the moment.
If you are having trouble with access or permissions on regional forums please post here to get access: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058365403/you-do-not-have-permission-for-that#latest

Saturday 5th January

  • 04-01-2019 11:58pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭


    I reckon Caro Des Flos is worth an E/W in the 13:35 at Wincanton.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭Goldcupfav


    Drummer Jack 4.45 Kempton.


  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭dclifford


    I reckon Caro Des Flos is worth an E/W in the 13:35 at Wincanton.

    Non Runner

    7.8kwp South facing, Slane.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 314 ✭✭ON ZEE BRIDLE


    New 12.55- Lord of the Rock win 3/1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,773 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Sand 3:25 - Eragon De Chanay at 11/1 should have a decent chance given track and conditions. 10lb claimer could just give it the edge it needs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,773 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    1:35 - can't be having Kapcorse at such a short price and reckon Johnson's horse will over turn it at 11/4.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    Sandown 3:00

    I’ve missed the price slightly but i think Halo Moon is pretty short to get involved here. He is on a decent mark and ran well in a similar race last year. He is getting a fair amount of weight from everything

    1 Pt EW 28/1 6 places SKY 25/1 @paddypower

    Wincanton 2:40

    I don’t need a lot of encouragement to go for a 3 figure price. Gallic Destiny was a decent flat horse and probably went to high in handicap mark before a few bad runs and a long time of the track. He ran with a tiny bit of promise on his first run back and if he improved it’s not totally out of the question he can get involved of this mark. 100/1 makes with worthwhile especially with the extra places on offer in most bookies.

    1 Point EW 100/1 4 places Paddy/Betfair 80/1 4 places elsewhere

    3:25 Sandown

    Eragon De Chanay looks a bit overpriced here given his course record. He is 2-3 here and is a decent price because of a poor run here last time out. Ill forgive him that run for the 10/1 in this race.

    1 Point win 10/1 Generally

    Cork 1:55

    This looks a step down in class for Jett, along with going back over hurdles a stone lower than his chase mark. Surly he has to go close here and 14/1 is very big.

    2 Points win 14/1lads/vc/coral/boyles


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,773 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Sandown 12:15 - Fukutoo, How'd they get away with that one :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭akelly02


    Theatre guide is my nap in the veterans , get 6 places in powers and get in the Q to collect :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭maximo31


    Sandown 12:15 - Fukutoo, How'd they get away with that one :)

    Japanese for sweating or something like that!:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭RivetingRoger


    Two ew bets today. Both @ 16/1.....Pete the feat and ball darc


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    Only one opponent for Laurina, sad state of affairs


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 568 ✭✭✭Auroras_encore


    No mare will touch her this season anyway, is she good enough for the ch only one way to find out


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Angliru


    Send Laurina over fences next year, looks like she's already been schooled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭RivetingRoger


    Laurina is a monster. Wont be beaten this year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭RivetingRoger


    Ball Darc finished


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    No mare will touch her this season anyway, is she good enough for the ch only one way to find out

    They should throw her in, with her allowance she should go close, looks absolute class


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,773 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Lads, very early to be popping the champagne corks on Laurina, it ran against a complete tree today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    Lads, very early to be popping the champagne corks on Laurina, it ran against a complete tree today.

    I always thought she looked class, today was never going to change my view. Very short for the Champion as it is though.

    Kilfenora has been in my tracker a while 3:05 Cork, money coming in for it now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭NaiveMelodies


    Buywise at 25s seems far too big!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Buywise at 25s seems far too big!

    Unlucky....very unlucky. I think he was going to go close


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭akelly02


    akelly02 wrote: »
    Theatre guide is my nap in the veterans , get 6 places in powers and get in the Q to collect :)



    Ah yea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    Shemale wrote: »
    Kilfenora has been in my tracker a while 3:05 Cork, money coming in for it now

    And delete, was going to back the winner til I saw this bollox getting backed. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭NaiveMelodies


    TheTorment wrote: »
    Unlucky....very unlucky. I think he was going to go close

    Made 5 lengths up between last two. Thought he wpuld have won handily tbh.
    Hard to believe the price of him though.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 568 ✭✭✭Auroras_encore


    Lads, very early to be popping the champagne corks on Laurina, it ran against a complete tree today.

    I wish I owned that "tree"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭RivetingRoger


    Lads, very early to be popping the champagne corks on Laurina, it ran against a complete tree today.

    One fair ignorant comment. Did u see either of its last 2 runs? 😛


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Made 5 lengths up between last two. Thought he wpuld have won handily tbh.
    Hard to believe the price of him though.

    Adam Wedge certainly thought so there!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,515 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    One fair ignorant comment. Did u see either of its last 2 runs? 😛

    Beat trees in all of its races so far, wouldnt touch it on fast, good ground if its entered in the champion hurdle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 314 ✭✭ON ZEE BRIDLE


    To call that a race today was a joke, i hope muliins runs her in the irish champion hurdle instead of going straight to chelts. If she does she will be backed off the boards and will prob start fav ahead of BD


  • Registered Users Posts: 298 ✭✭handsfree2


    Angliru wrote: »
    Send Laurina over fences next year, looks like she's already been schooled.

    I thought she looked slow and high over her hurdles too.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,773 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Laurina has had multiple entries to take on Champion Hurdle contenders but yet swerved them all to run that joke of a mares race. I don't think what the connections have done is accidental at all. I think it will run over 2m4 like it did today in the mares race at Cheltenham.


  • Registered Users Posts: 823 ✭✭✭Kauto


    Laurina has had multiple entries to take on Champion Hurdle contenders but yet swerved them all to run that joke of a mares race. I don't think what the connections have done is accidental at all. I think it will run over 2m4 like it did today in the mares race at Cheltenham.

    No they haven't done it accidentally. She hasn't run to date became of the ground. Why would they risk her on it this early in the season. She will be running on decent ground in Cheltenham so time enough.
    They think she is an absolute monster and in a poor champion hurdle she will lead home a WP forecast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Looks like she needs it soft. Will she get that at the festival?

    She will go the mares imo. Otherwise they would be testing her in top races before March.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭NaiveMelodies


    They'll have a fair idea of how she'd go against Melon, Sharjah et al and someones backed her to the extent she's extremely short based on anything done on track.
    I suppose the decision for them is 7 lbs off Beuver D'air and the rest or levels v Apples Jade?

    How many proper tests in open company did Annie Power get before her CH? World Hurdle?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    They'll have a fair idea of how she'd go against Melon, Sharjah et al and someones backed her to the extent she's extremely short based on anything done on track.
    I suppose the decision for them is 7 lbs off Beuver D'air and the rest or levels v Apples Jade?

    How many proper tests in open company did Annie Power get before her CH? World Hurdle?

    Certainly more than Laurina. Beat Zarkandar a couple of times on the snaff and had course form on good ground and went off around 3/1 in a weak enough Champ Hurdle. Laurina is nearly that price now and facing a 2 time champion in his prime and has never run on decent ground.


  • Registered Users Posts: 823 ✭✭✭Kauto


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Looks like she needs it soft. Will she get that at the festival?

    She will go the mares imo. Otherwise they would be testing her in top races before March.

    She doesn't need it soft but why risk her on it before you have to?

    They know exactly what they have, so why bottom her out before the big day. WPM a genius. Owner wants the CH and that is where she will run.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users Posts: 823 ✭✭✭Kauto


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Certainly more than Laurina. Beat Zarkandar a couple of times on the snaff and had course form on good ground and went off around 3/1 in a weak enough Champ Hurdle. Laurina is nearly that price now and facing a 2 time champion in his prime and has never run on decent ground.

    Well they think she is a fair bit better than Melon who was just beaten in the CH last year. Winner alright, winner alright


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    I just can't keep my mouth shut on this Laurina waffle any longer. The 4-1 currently on offer is a crap price. Who has she ever beat in open company? All of her form is on soft or heavier ground. This nonsense needs to stop. Anyone who thinks 4-1 is value needs their head examined.


    If she turns out to be as good as she is I am delighted for her and her connections. As it stands she is rated 152. This is the same rating as any of the current leading novice hurdlers. How many of those are 4-1 for the champion hurdle?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,515 ✭✭✭paddyisreal


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    I just can't keep my mouth shut on this Laurina waffle any longer. The 4-1 currently on offer is a crap price. Who has she ever beat in open company? All of her form is on soft or heavier ground. This nonsense needs to stop. Anyone who thinks 4-1 is value needs their head examined.


    If she turns out to be as good as she is I am delighted for her and her connections. As it stands she is rated 152. This is the same rating as any of the current leading novice hurdlers. How many of those are 4-1 for the champion hurdle?

    1000 percent agree with the above, bvd is rated 169 and she gets the allowance. Still has loads to find but at 4s its a crazy price.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,840 ✭✭✭Panrich


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    I just can't keep my mouth shut on this Laurina waffle any longer. The 4-1 currently on offer is a crap price. Who has she ever beat in open company? All of her form is on soft or heavier ground. This nonsense needs to stop. Anyone who thinks 4-1 is value needs their head examined.


    If she turns out to be as good as she is I am delighted for her and her connections. As it stands she is rated 152. This is the same rating as any of the current leading novice hurdlers. How many of those are 4-1 for the champion hurdle?

    Sounds like a good lay opportunity for you if you feel that strongly.

    The what has she beaten argument is a bit bogus as Buveur Dair could hardly have been more decisive than she has been in dispatching very inferior opponents. She’s beaten everything she’s faced on the snaff.

    You are right though in that she hasn’t been tested and might well fall short of what’s required when upped against the very best. I saw someone post that she’d need to improve a stone to challenge Apples Jade. The problem with that argument is that we don’t know her current ability and the handicapper doesn’t either. What we can say is that it’s north of 152. How far north is conjecture.

    The weight of money must tell something about the regard that she is held in by Willie and co. It’s not all mug punters money that has her where she is in the betting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Kauto wrote: »
    She doesn't need it soft but why risk her on it before you have to?

    They know exactly what they have, so why bottom her out before the big day. WPM a genius. Owner wants the CH and that is where she will run.

    All her form is on a bog. How do you know she will handle decent ground?


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users Posts: 3,840 ✭✭✭Panrich


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    All her form is on a bog. How do you know she will handle decent ground?

    That certainly is a question mark. None of her sires progeny have ever won a race in Ire/UK on ground with good in the description from very few opportunities admittedly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭RivetingRoger


    ground wont be good on day 1 lads, that's a given
    twill we watered to death if no rain
    ground wont be an issue
    good to soft at absolute best
    anything with soft in the name and with a race already run on it will be fine for her


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,034 Mod ✭✭✭✭The Mig


    They know what they have in Closutton lads. Doesn’t matter what she’s done or how she has looked. Bigger engine than Annie is what I’ve heard


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭NaiveMelodies


    The Mig wrote: »
    They know what they have in Closutton lads. Doesn’t matter what she’s done or how she has looked. Bigger engine than Annie is what I’ve heard

    They regularly don't know. If it was that straightforward they stable lads would be driving Lambos.

    They'll know when we know on the 12th.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Earendil


    They regularly don't know. If it was that straightforward they stable lads would be driving Lambos.

    They'll know when we know on the 12th.

    That doesn’t make sense.
    In general you can get an idea in a big yard by how a horse runs in its work against graded animals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭NaiveMelodies


    Earendil wrote: »
    That doesn’t make sense.
    In general you can get an idea in a big yard by how a horse runs in its work against graded animals.

    Of course, yeah.

    They don't how good a horse is going to be on the track though, i.e. that Laurina will be as good as Annie Power.

    Plenty of horses touted as machines by various yards have not been machines. It's not that simple.


Advertisement