Silage 2021

DBK1 · 13-05-2021 6:17pm

Track9 wrote: »

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Derrnoose quoted ( see below .) In Euros ..............

]Our best price would be €80.50 per roll plus €40 for delivery.[/I]

The above is for 15 - 20 rolls plastic.
Aewaitging price from Mc Rorys, a pain because one has to call them & then they call back.
Local Co-Op 88 e collected.

What brands are you pricing in both places? There is a big variation in quality on different brands.

Would you not just be better off getting it in the local co-op? You could just pick it up as you need it then instead of paying for it all now and looking at it in the shed then. At 20 rolls it’s not a big amount really and when you add the carriage cost you’ll only save about €5 a roll, that would be 17 or 18 cent a bale. With quality silage costing well above €20 a bale to make it’s not much of a saving for all the ringing around and organising.

Dunedin · 13-05-2021 7:54pm

DBK1 wrote: »

What brands are you pricing in both places? There is a big variation in quality on different brands.

Would you not just be better off getting it in the local co-op? You could just pick it up as you need it then instead of paying for it all now and looking at it in the shed then. At 20 rolls it’s not a big amount really and when you add the carriage cost you’ll only save about €5 a roll, that would be 17 or 18 cent a bale. With quality silage costing well above €20 a bale to make it’s not much of a saving for all the ringing around and organising.

Rang two local places yesterday. €90 in both places for black silowrap

mengele · 13-05-2021 10:38pm

Are 1st cuts going to run late this year? Weather is very mixed for those who cut early meaning everything might get delayed.

Reggie. · 13-05-2021 11:35pm

mengele wrote: »

Are 1st cuts going to run late this year? Weather is very mixed for those who cut early meaning everything might get delayed.

3 weeks behind around here

DBK1 · 13-05-2021 11:43pm

Reggie. wrote: »

3 weeks behind around here

Same here.

I walked some of my own this eve. It’s a lot heavier than I thought, starting to lodge now and worse starting to head out. Because it’s heavy it’ll need at least 2 good days after mowing to be dry enough for baling. Doesn’t look like there’s two full dry days coming at any stage in the next week so it could turn out to be poor silage by the time it’s cut.

Whenever a bit of dry weather does come now I’d say we’ll be busy, there’s a good bit around here nearly ready for cutting now.

roosterman71 · 14-05-2021 9:35am

My own crop is fairly light, though has bulked up in the last week. Aim to cut around June bank holiday. Not sure how it will work this year. Maybe run it a week later

Cerveza · 14-05-2021 9:37am

My neighbour has grass fever, he drives through his silage fields in the berlingo nearly every evening now.
The pubs need to open soon or he needs to stop watching evenflow videos possibly also.

roosterman71 · 14-05-2021 11:31am

Someone nearby is doing pit silage today. Tractors and trailers going up past the window here for the last couple of hours. I think it's a long draw. 7 different tractors gone up the road so far. Haven't seen any a second time yet. They don't come back by me when empty so they have a loop around somewhere

Reggie. · 14-05-2021 1:09pm

roosterman71 wrote: »

Someone nearby is doing pit silage today. Tractors and trailers going up past the window here for the last couple of hours. I think it's a long draw. 7 different tractors gone up the road so far. Haven't seen any a second time yet. They don't come back by me when empty so they have a loop around somewhere

John deeres

roosterman71 · 14-05-2021 1:46pm

Reggie. wrote: »

John deeres

Just one Deere. Massey, Valtra, 2 Case, 2 Fendts. Claas harvester

GrasstoMilk · 14-05-2021 5:12pm

At it here today

Mooooo · 14-05-2021 5:23pm

Some rain falling the last hour, hope anyone that chanced it gets it done before it hits

mengele · 14-05-2021 6:09pm

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

At it here today

Has it rained up there? Ground looks wet and mucky?

Reggie. · 14-05-2021 6:41pm

roosterman71 wrote: »

Just one Deere. Massey, Valtra, 2 Case, 2 Fendts. Claas harvester

Conroy?

roosterman71 · 14-05-2021 6:45pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Conroy?

Dunno. I'd imagine there's a few lads involved going by the number of trailers on the draw.

Waffletraktor · 14-05-2021 8:04pm

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

At it here today

Not being mean but that loader has a tough life.

jaymla627 · 14-05-2021 9:06pm

A lad wouldn't want to let the clutch slip

GrasstoMilk · 14-05-2021 11:44pm

Waffletraktor wrote: »

Not being mean but that loader has a tough life.

Can you hear the squeaks from across the pond

Tbf, small yards and sheds around here, would need to keep that loader if bought a bigger loader

GrasstoMilk · 14-05-2021 11:47pm

mengele wrote: »

Has it rained up there? Ground looks wet and mucky?

We got a shower, was pure luck tbh but got not real heavy rain that was everywhere else

Thats bad oul stone from our own quarry, cows walk in and out there, doesn't dry up very well

ruwithme · 14-05-2021 11:50pm

How do ye make enough of that nice 14th may green silage grass for cows though grasstomilk?

GrasstoMilk · 15-05-2021 12:03am

ruwithme wrote: »

How do ye make enough of that nice 14th may green silage grass for cows though grasstomilk?

Feed it well and cut 3 times
That crop av 5t/ha of DM

we've a good wedge of silage left over, aiming for all quality to feed milkers

GrasstoMilk · 15-05-2021 12:05am

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Feed it well and cut 3 times
That crop av 5t/ha of DM

we've a good wedge of silage left over, aiming for all quality to feed milkers

Not to long ago we'd have been end of May ppl but tbh there's v little difference in the crop

We don't graze our silage ground In spring either, that means there's that bit more there starting off

memorystick · 15-05-2021 12:26am

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

At it here today

Leaves not fully out in the middle of May. Tis mad Ted.

whelan2 · 15-05-2021 12:34pm

Birds are building their nests high up in the trees which is supposed be a sign of good weather

CloughCasey1 · 15-05-2021 12:43pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Birds are building their nests high up in the trees which is supposed be a sign of good weather

That or they are afraid of flooding!!

jaymla627 · 15-05-2021 5:17pm

ruwithme wrote: »

How do ye make enough of that nice 14th may green silage grass for cows though grasstomilk?

At current spot maize prices of 300 euro a ton the above silage is conservatively worth 65 euro a ton if got in the pit at our over 25% dm, looking at the long range forecast yesterday was the last chance to make anything that is going to be good enough for milking cows from 1st cuts

roosterman71 · 20-05-2021 9:46am

roosterman71 wrote: »

Someone nearby is doing pit silage today. Tractors and trailers going up past the window here for the last couple of hours. I think it's a long draw. 7 different tractors gone up the road so far. Haven't seen any a second time yet. They don't come back by me when empty so they have a loop around somewhere

roosterman71 wrote: »

Just one Deere. Massey, Valtra, 2 Case, 2 Fendts. Claas harvester

Reggie. wrote: »

Conroy?

A video of this outfit working was uploaded a few days ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cq7ibJcORg

_Brian · 20-05-2021 9:50am

Seen silage baled and wrapped outside Cavan yesterday. Decent looking crop in fairness.
Pity it got torrential rain Tuesday night and the field cut to shiit for the baling.

wrangler · 20-05-2021 9:51am

roosterman71 wrote: »

Just one Deere. Massey, Valtra, 2 Case, 2 Fendts. Claas harvester

Are you Kilbeggan horseleap somewhere, guys renting my land were cutting, 15km draw.

wrangler · 20-05-2021 9:54am

roosterman71 wrote: »

A video of this outfit working was uploaded a few days ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cq7ibJcORg

That's on my land

Butlers do all his work, great contractors

Sami23 · 20-05-2021 10:09am

wrangler wrote: »

That's on my land

Butlers do all his work, great contractors

Some lovely big fields there Wrangler

lakill Farm · 20-05-2021 10:14am

wrangler wrote: »

That's on my land

Butlers do all his work, great contractors

Only 10 years ago he had a JD with butterflies mowing for another contractor and delivering fert for Glanbia

wrangler · 20-05-2021 10:26am

Sami23 wrote: »

Some lovely big fields there Wrangler

Thanks,
It really shows the difference in the growth this year, one field was closed 15th March and had a good crop, the other field was closed 1st april, and had avery poor crop, it never got going once the weather turned cold.

wrangler · 20-05-2021 10:27am

lakill Farm wrote: »

Only 10 years ago he had a JD with butterflies mowing for another contractor and delivering fert for Glanbia

He got big very quick alright

Reggie. · 20-05-2021 10:30am

roosterman71 wrote: »

A video of this outfit working was uploaded a few days ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cq7ibJcORg

Them boys are based over in streete near me

roosterman71 · 20-05-2021 12:11pm

wrangler wrote: »

Are you Kilbeggan horseleap somewhere, guys renting my land were cutting, 15km draw.

Kilbeggan

GrasstoMilk · 20-05-2021 2:44pm

wrangler wrote: »

Are you Kilbeggan horseleap somewhere, guys renting my land were cutting, 15km draw.

Do they draw slurry to that?

Birdnuts · 20-05-2021 4:12pm

I would be wary of any silage cut before June this year given how poor conditions have been - its likely to be very poor in DM and basically mainly watery sh*te

lakill Farm · 20-05-2021 4:19pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Them boys are based over in streete near me

That 211 Blue Fendt and krone rake were over in collinstown yesterday evening. Its a fine job

roosterman71 · 20-05-2021 4:46pm

They must cover a huge chunk of the county

Reggie. · 20-05-2021 4:59pm

lakill Farm wrote: »

That 211 Blue Fendt and krone rake were over in collinstown yesterday evening. Its a fine job

Thats the fendt they were trying to sell me

wrangler · 20-05-2021 5:16pm

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Do they draw slurry to that?

Yep, the same fleet would be drawing slurry in January to an umbilical

endainoz · 20-05-2021 6:09pm

Birdnuts wrote: »

I would be wary of any silage cut before June this year given how poor conditions have been - its likely to be very poor in DM and basically mainly watery sh*te

https://www.met.ie/forecasts/monthly-forecast

Met Eireann long range forecast say things looking much better after next week. Looks like the madness will start soon after that though.

GrasstoMilk · 20-05-2021 6:11pm

Birdnuts wrote: »

I would be wary of any silage cut before June this year given how poor conditions have been - its likely to be very poor in DM and basically mainly watery sh*te

Tbh I'd rather fees low dm high dmd silage over high dm low dmd silage

If it was mown dry with with no out side moisture it should be over 20 at least
We put additive in ours

Bass Reeves · 20-05-2021 7:58pm

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Tbh I'd rather fees low dm high dmd silage over high dm low dmd silage

If it was mown dry with with no out side moisture it should be over 20 at least
We put additive in ours

If I had a choice between early 20'sDM/75-80DMD silage and 40-50's DM/68-73 DMD silage I would take the high DM silage any day for stores.

In dairying the feeding of ration can hide the true feeding value of low DM silage. In store systems high DM silage is the road more and more farmers are going down. Beef farming is highly cost sensitive. Now I know that dairying is unuitable to compensatory growth but it's a massive cost savings in drystock.

There is a huge issue with the transfer of dairying grazing and feeding data across in block to drystock without any real analysis or trials.

GrasstoMilk · 20-05-2021 9:54pm

Bass Reeves wrote: »

If I had a choice between early 20'sDM/75-80DMD silage and 40-50's DM/68-73 DMD silage I would take the high DM silage any day for stores.

In dairying the feeding of ration can hide the true feeding value of low DM silage. In store systems high DM silage is the road more and more farmers are going down. Beef farming is highly cost sensitive. Now I know that dairying is unuitable to compensatory growth but it's a massive cost savings in drystock.

There is a huge issue with the transfer of dairying grazing and feeding data across in block to drystock without any real analysis or trials.

Completely different scenarios but I know where you're coming from

Anything over 30% dm I find for milking cows I find its hard to get intakes with them, much more options if you've the high dmd silage

Personally if I was still carrying beef stock I would like them growing every day of the year, still reckon letting silage going past 4th leaf gives no extra gain
You'll get the same tonnes by getting it off and going for a second cut, you're only increasing stem and reducing leaf which is where the feeding is

ruwithme · 20-05-2021 10:26pm

Nothing beats a quailty 1st cut with a touch of bulk about it saved in the ideal conditions. 2nd & 3rd cuts can't come close.

A few locally must have taught we were never going to have a dry day again after today with the hurry to save silage in the early days of this week.showers,many quite heavy caught them out.

Nought worse than wet silage.

Mooooo · 20-05-2021 11:18pm

Bass Reeves wrote: »

If I had a choice between early 20'sDM/75-80DMD silage and 40-50's DM/68-73 DMD silage I would take the high DM silage any day for stores.

In dairying the feeding of ration can hide the true feeding value of low DM silage. In store systems high DM silage is the road more and more farmers are going down. Beef farming is highly cost sensitive. Now I know that dairying is unuitable to compensatory growth but it's a massive cost savings in drystock.

There is a huge issue with the transfer of dairying grazing and feeding data across in block to drystock without any real analysis or trials.

You'll see it straight away in the bulk tank re dmd of forage, particularly in winter milk with fresh calvers. Best performance we had was with 25 dm and 82dmd iirc. That was also from a pit, which prob would conserve lower dm silage better than bales imo so may contribute. Accept the point on dry stock. Wouldn't be gone on any additives unless there were concerns with excess N really. Roll the pit and cover it properly as good as any

Bass Reeves · 20-05-2021 11:49pm

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Completely different scenarios but I know where you're coming from

Anything over 30% dm I find for milking cows I find its hard to get intakes with them, much more options if you've the high dmd silage

Personally if I was still carrying beef stock I would like them growing every day of the year, still reckon letting silage going past 4th leaf gives no extra gain
You'll get the same tonnes by getting it off and going for a second cut, you're only increasing stem and reducing leaf which is where the feeding is

Ideally I like to cut it between the 23-28th of May. It gives about 70-73DMD silage at 40+DM. It maxes first cut and gives me about 60% of my silage needs usually. Second cut is usually not as good quality but adequate for the last 6-8 weeks of winter. Compensatory growth takes care of the rest. Drystock is no longer about efficiency or about growth it about cost

wrangler · 22-05-2021 10:18am

roosterman71 wrote: »

Someone nearby is doing pit silage today. Tractors and trailers going up past the window here for the last couple of hours. I think it's a long draw. 7 different tractors gone up the road so far. Haven't seen any a second time yet. They don't come back by me when empty so they have a loop around somewhere

You've probably noticed that there's slurry moving to day....... seems to be a shortage of tractors, they're expecting more to come.
Not really keeping the umbilical going at all

Silage 2021

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