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Art O'Neil challenge 2017

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  • Registered Users Posts: 7 ragsod


    Djoucer wrote: »
    It can get very icy.

    Usually, roads are ok up until Stone Cross. Paths after m50 can be a bit icy/frosty. Climb to stone cross is grand. Road is grippy. From stone cross, the road can get very icy and slippery. You can usually run up the middle or on verge but can be a bit dicey. Some of the downhills can be a bit sketchy.

    I expect it to be frosty as soon as you take the turn for stone cross based on previous years. Once you take the short cut through the private lands, roads are Ok.

    If it doesn't rain too much tomorrow, it shouldn't be too bad.



    Same experience from 2015. Climb from cross to the road highpoint was steep and slippy where compressed by cars. So a fair bit of jumping from middle to verge and back. The descent on the road had a few black ice patches but could still run fast with a few hairy moments.

    As in 2015 I have a bit of a footwear dilemma due to the road conditions. In that year I opted to wear my trail shoes for the road section. Grip was nice to have but I was hobbled by CP1: knees, hips, ITB all cramping. I don't think I could live with that again so wearing road shoes with a bit more cushioning. However, they have poor grip at the best of times. Thankfully I discovered something called razor-siping and spent last night customizing the soles of my runners with a stanley knife. Will see how that one works out for me :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 glasshopper


    That's interesting Ragsod - razor-siping. i'm the same when it comes to long runs on the trail shoes. Mine are Merrell all out rush and are minimal - almost free runs. hips and knees at risk there. I think i'll stick the Adidas boost on for more cushion and pray the continental rubber sole keeps a grip.

    Big question for me now is what to do tomorrow night before the start. i might register first, then go drop off the car at sandyford luas. otherwise there's a lot of hanging around. is there somewhere in the castle to stay warm and relax between 11 and 1am?
    what do people do? register earlier and go to the cinema or?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 ragsod


    Big question for me now is what to do tomorrow night before the start. i might register first, then go drop off the car at sandyford luas. otherwise there's a lot of hanging around. is there somewhere in the castle to stay warm and relax between 11 and 1am?
    what do people do? register earlier and go to the cinema or?



    That worked for me previously when I lived close to town. Register and bag drop at 8. Home to sleep for a few hours and then back in at 12:30 for a 2am start.

    Am living out of town now so will head in at 10:30 to register and wait around. You will find plenty of floor space - a little chilly in there IIRC, but no problems.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 620 ✭✭✭Djoucer


    You can wait in the castle. Plenty of chairs and space to relax. It's warm too so you can take off your layers.

    Van outside hot drinks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭opus


    Best of luck to everyone tonight!

    I'm both disappointed & relieved (if that's possible!) not to be taking part :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭DogSlySmile


    AON 17 won by Andrew Tuckey (who has some top runs at UTMB and WS100 under his belt)

    Djoucer with a fantastic 2nd place


  • Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭badbeatcentral


    Congrats Djoucer, I'm amazed at the times of the top 5, I completed it in a guided group for Leg 2 and 3 and found it very heavy underfoot particularly coming down to the finish from Art's Cross.

    Unbelievably well organised event, looking forward to next year if I'm lucky enough to get a spot again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭Gravale


    Two walking clubs did the Art O'Neill walk today. Ground conditions very wet, making for heavy going throughout the mountain section.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 thespeed03


    I was a newbie doing AON this year. It's probably the best event i've ever taken part in. Had no navigation experience at all so spent a few hours online in the weeks leading up to the event learning how to use a map and compass.
    The roads after Stone Cross were pretty icey alright but you could run without too much bother on the very edge of the road on either side.
    Up on the mountains it was all snow, one of my toes is still a bit numb from the freezing even 2 weeks later!! I lost my map shortly after the start of the last section but luckily had recce'd the route a few weeks previous and had taken a mental note of a few compass bearings (the actual bearings were wrote on my lost map) so eventually found my way.
    Great great great event, can't say enough good words about it.
    I Snapchat storied (Few pics but mainly videos) the event and uploaded it to YouTube to give a few friends of mine an idea of whats involved. YEP...most of them think anyone who does it is completely barmy after watching it :-) haha!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭Gravale


    No navigation experience at all, a few hours learning online how to use a compass, lost your map, mental notes of a few bearings, frozen big toe...... Well done! You were lucky that the weather wasn't as dreadful as it might have been.

    So, have you a Youtube link to share with us? We'd like to see a real barmy runner in action.

    Is this you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31Lt25kefkw


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13 thespeed03


    Yep that's me. I couldn't post the link up. Some journey. An amazing experience!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 thespeed03


    Here we go again, it's finger crossing time, many trying again??? 
    Price has gone up a bit but in fairness it goes to a good cause so i'm not too bitter about it. What's peoples thoughts?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    thespeed03 wrote: »
    Here we go again, it's finger crossing time, many trying again???
    Price has gone up a bit but in fairness it goes to a good cause so i'm not too bitter about it. What's peoples thoughts?

    SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13 thespeed03


    Heard rumours of over 1000 applications :O


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭The Noble Nudge


    1000!! so far up 300 from last year...was hoping to take part....


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭opus


    Friend of mine is keen but as always with this event I'm on the fence. Will decide over the w/end as have 'til the 18th.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 thespeed03


    The timeline for getting prepared is tight this year so was a bit on the fence myself but have managed to book some time off over Christmas in the hope of doing recces if getting a spot, gonna be an intense 7 weeks if I do!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭The Noble Nudge


    Has anyone a gps or strava file for it to have a look...


  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭Gravale


    The full GPS route from Dublin Castle to the finish in Glenmalure. Mind you, it's my own recorded track.
    AON (modern).gpx


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 thespeed03


    Has anyone a gps or strava file for it to have a look...
    Strava: https://www.strava.com/activities/831759930 The last 5km is missing as my watch dies but you are on the way to table track (the home stretch) there so nav is not needed for it, you're pretty much home :-)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13 thespeed03


    thespeed03 wrote: »
    Has anyone a gps or strava file for it to have a look...
    Strava: https://www.strava.com/activities/831759930 The last 5km is missing as my watch dies but you are on the way to table track (the home stretch) there so nav is not needed for it, you're pretty much home :-)
    What is interesting...If you go in to my Strava Link, view the fly-bys, look for someone called Shane and you will see how it can go drastically wrong in the mountains.


  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭Gravale


    Maps of the route from CP1 to CP2 and then CP2 to Glenmalure.

    CP1 to CP2.jpg

    CP2 to Glenmalure.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭Gravale


    Do the Challenge from your armchair:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ga2QlFOOp4


  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭Gravale


    One or two hiking clubs organise their own Art O'Neill Challenge a week before or after the official one. Here's one from a few years ago:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P21_5lTb3E


  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭Gravale


    Another club Art O'Neill Challenge outing in 2017:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ7-waDXlI8


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭The Noble Nudge


    Can you change what you sign up for as in running to a hybrid or vice versa....
    Sitting on the fence still....


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 thespeed03


    Can you change what you sign up for as in running to a hybrid or vice versa....
    Sitting on the fence still....
    I think you can change from the Ultra to the Hybrid but not the other way around. Think the Ultra has more spots available but more people apply for the Ultra so it's a bit of a catch 22.
    My advice.....If you are entering go for the Ultra. If you can get a couple of recces done it eases the uncertainty, and at least you can drop back to the Hybrid if you don't fancy the ultra in the week leading up to it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭opus


    I've thrown my name in the hat for the ultra despite some misgivings :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭The Noble Nudge


    thespeed03 wrote: »
    I think you can change from the Ultra to the Hybrid but not the other way around. Think the Ultra has more spots available but more people apply for the Ultra so it's a bit of a catch 22.
    My advice.....If you are entering go for the Ultra. If you can get a couple of recces done it eases the uncertainty, and at least you can drop back to the Hybrid if you don't fancy the ultra in the week leading up to it.

    Ah it was more a training over Christmas type thing...
    What to do


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  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭Lostnfound


    Can you change what you sign up for as in running to a hybrid or vice versa....
    Sitting on the fence still....

    I'm a past "victim" of the AON. I strongly recommend you do it, it's a great event, a real tester of your inner strength.

    It's important to do the recce's of Checkpoint 1 to 2 and CP2 to the finish.

    You can enter the Ultra and then when you get to CP1 revert to the Hybrid. If you do the recce's, can read a map and trust yourself you will be fine with the Ultra.

    There's an info evening about a week before which is very helpful.


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