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23-01-2014, 11:24   #31
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Heard something on the radio the other morning about the RSA handing out high-vis vests to schoolkids. It'll be like a mandatory uniform for everyone who isn't in a car soon.
Can't embed vimeo, ugh.

http://vimeo.com/84694389

edit: oh, never mind. I see tomasrojo linked to it above.
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23-01-2014, 11:27   #32
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It's unrelenting.

There's another campaign under way in the West advising pedestrians to "make themselves safer". Hi-viz is inevitably part of the mix. No mention of traffic law enforcement, or chronic lack of same.

AGS apparently believes that cyclists and pedestrians have a "social responsibility" to ensure their own safety by making themselves "visible to traffic".

That's asking a lot of my Sam Browne. Still, it could be worse:







Postscript: http://www.seattle.gov/transportatio...ssingflags.htm


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Heard something on the radio the other morning about the RSA handing out high-vis vests to schoolkids. It'll be like a mandatory uniform for everyone who isn't in a car soon.


It's also turning children into high-visibility mobile PR installations: http://www.electricireland.ie/ei/res...munity/RSA.jsp
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AGS apparently believes that cyclists and pedestrians have a "social responsibility" to ensure their own safety by making themselves "visible to traffic".
Visible to what traffic? What are cyclists, are they not traffic? Are they street furniture or something?

I don't get this

"cyclists



and traffic".
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Still, it could be worse:
Holy ****. That video is ****ing insane.
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23-01-2014, 12:28   #36
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It's weird how we don't see hoards of dead or injured ninja cyclists lining the roads of ireland. Or just people wearing high viz with no lights.
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Or just people wearing high viz with no lights.
i've actually seen a lot of cyclists adopt this approach
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It's unrelenting.

There's another campaign under way in the West advising pedestrians to "make themselves safer". Hi-viz is inevitably part of the mix. No mention of traffic law enforcement, or chronic lack of same.
To be fair, I can't see a mention of hi-viz there. The advice to walk towards oncoming traffic is probably wrong as you approach a blind bend though.

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AGS apparently believes that cyclists and pedestrians have a "social responsibility" to ensure their own safety by making themselves "visible to traffic".
That's farcical. Let's be world-leaders in shifting the burden of responsibility to the vulnerable party. Go us.

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Still, it could be worse:
Came across the Kirkland business before.

Here are their FAQs. Fascinating!

http://www.kirklandwa.gov/depart/Pub...ags_-_FAQs.htm
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I think most drivers see cyclists
Yay, that's good news.
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i've actually seen a lot of cyclists adopt this approach
Yes tonnes of people in non high viz, in high viz, in lycra, in casual clothing all with no lights.

Seems dangerous, right, but I don't see anyone being knocked down.
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I don't see anyone being knocked down.
That's nice.
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That's nice.
it is nice
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Yes tonnes of people in non high viz, in high viz, in lycra, in casual clothing all with no lights.

Seems dangerous, right, but I don't see anyone being knocked down.
Maybe you'd see them if they had lights....
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To be fair, I can't see a mention of hi-viz there. The advice to walk towards oncoming traffic is probably wrong as you approach a blind bend though.

It was mentioned in the local radio report, but not on their website. I can't find anything on the Garda website.



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Holy ****. That video is ****ing insane.

Nuts, isn't it? The evaluation showed they were wasting everyone's time (except for motorists'), which should have been no surprise imo. I'm inclined to trot out the old "only in America" cliche, but I'm afraid that when it comes to hivisteria and helmetophilia this country can hold its own.

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Yes tonnes of people in non high viz, in high viz, in lycra, in casual clothing all with no lights.

Seems dangerous, right, but I don't see anyone being knocked down.
What are you talking about? You don't witness an accident so it must not have happened? How illogical is that?

This morning on my way to work I was hit by a car, as she overtook me with oncoming traffic while I was overtaking a stationary bike (man putting his daughter on the child seat). She didn't have room for the maneuver but continued on anyway. The lady continued driving because she was in shock, I caught up with her and asked her WTF was she doing. Her response said it all "I didn't think ...bla bla bla". She didn't even know what to do in an accident. The traffic started moving again and she moved off.

Every day there are incidents on the trip to work. Some of the stuff you witness is mental.

Cars actually swerving for cyclists like lunatics. A go pro is a fantastic investment.

Helmets, high viz gear and lights are essential. It's idiotic to venture out without.



Expensive lights and high viz clothing (gloves, bib & coat) couldn't prevent stupid people doing stupid things.
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