Connacht Team Talk Thread V - The Friend Zone

BakeMeACake · 05-12-2019 8:13pm

ClanofLams wrote:

According to Linley Mackenzie in Irish Times this morning, hoping for Marmion & TOH to be back for interpros, McKeon resumed training this week and will be available for selection from next week on.

I know these guys would like to be back for the interpros, and if they are fit and ready then that's great. I do wonder if Connacht are just too dependent on a player's word that they are ok. SOB is a prime example of rushing players back. At the end of the day it is only a game of rugby and the alternatives are not shabby players

b.gud · 05-12-2019 8:57pm

BakeMeACake wrote: »

I know these guys would like to be back for the interpros, and if they are fit and ready then that's great. I do wonder if Connacht are just too dependent on a player's word that they are ok. SOB is a prime example of rushing players back. At the end of the day it is only a game of rugby and the alternatives are not shabby players

That is absolutely not how it works and funnily enough the example you provided is the perfect example of why it doesn't work the way you suggested.

Sean O'Brien was part of the Off the Ball Connacht rugby special a few weeks ago and on it he talked about how he felt he was ready to get back to playing for a few weeks and the S&C and coaching team told him he'd have to wait a bit longer until he was fully fit

BakeMeACake · 05-12-2019 9:46pm

b.gud wrote:

Sean O'Brien was part of the Off the Ball Connacht rugby special a few weeks ago and on it he talked about how he felt he was ready to get back to playing for a few weeks and the S&C and coaching team told him he'd have to wait a bit longer until he was fully fit

And yet both were proven wrong b.gud. He took a pretty innocuous hit which has him back at square one. So it would seem both player and S&C were at fault. And simply that was the only point I was trying to make. I love my rugby, and I know it's these guys careers, but the way SOB folded indicates poor decision making and poor understanding of how a body repairs itself by the folks making these decisions. And I would hope such mistakes are not repeated too often because there is a young person's livelihood at stake.

BakeMeACake · 05-12-2019 9:50pm

Anyway moving on, anyone know what's the story with David Horowitz. He seems to have fallen off the end of the world?

connachta · 05-12-2019 10:20pm

BakeMeACake wrote: »

Anyway moving on, anyone know what's the story with David Horowitz. He seems to have fallen off the end of the world?

Wasn't rated for Brumbies, isn't rated at all for Connacht, not a single minute vs Montpellier, the only game he was on the teamsheet...

b.gud · 05-12-2019 10:24pm

BakeMeACake wrote: »

And yet both were proven wrong b.gud. He took a pretty innocuous hit which has him back at square one. So it would seem both player and S&C were at fault. And simply that was the only point I was trying to make. I love my rugby, and I know it's these guys careers, but the way SOB folded indicates poor decision making and poor understanding of how a body repairs itself by the folks making these decisions. And I would hope such mistakes are not repeated too often because there is a young person's livelihood at stake.

A very good point I look forward to your detailed report which is full of regular read outs for targets SOB was hitting or missing. I'm particularly looking forward to hearing your thoughts on them with your years of experience in the s&c world.

Another thing that I'm really looking forward to are the quotes from SOB explaining how he was able able to convince the management and s&c team that he was fine to play even though all data said that he wasn't

BakeMeACake · 05-12-2019 11:03pm

b.gud wrote:

A very good point I look forward to your detailed report which is full of regular read outs for targets SOB was hitting or missing. I'm particularly looking forward to hearing your thoughts on them with your years of experience in the s&c world.

I leave it with your indignatious self. I wasn't trying to step on feet.

Bazzo · 05-12-2019 11:20pm

Mul, it's over

Oh.. that's who it is.

Tommybojangles · 06-12-2019 10:02am

Mul, it's over

BakeMeACake wrote: »

Anyway moving on, anyone know what's the story with David Horowitz. He seems to have fallen off the end of the world?

Was a totally wild punt in the first place I think. Turned out as expected, presume hell be gone at the end of the season

CowboyTed · 06-12-2019 11:31am

Tommybojangles wrote: »

Bit dramatic. I'd say hes very close to joining Bundee as our best player, with Butler, Tom Farrell and and in form Jack not too far behind

Huge heart... He gives weight to all players in the pack but fights like hell

ClanofLams · 06-12-2019 1:32pm

Mul, it's over

Surprising to see Makysmiw starting, wonder if it’s a bit of trying to have impact off the bench? Porch at full back isn’t ideal either, Healy must be injured? Porch probably hadn’t played 15 in a long time......

oneofakind32 · 06-12-2019 3:35pm

https://www.connachtrugby.ie/butler-returns-to-captain-connacht-in-champions-cup-clash-against-gloucester/

"while a late injury to Matt Healy sees John Porch switching from the wing to full back"

And Maksymiw over Dillane is an interesting call. Boyle not in the 23?

The inconsistency in the team/squad line up can't be a good thing

connachta · 06-12-2019 4:52pm

oneofakind32 wrote: »

https://www.connachtrugby.ie/butler-returns-to-captain-connacht-in-champions-cup-clash-against-gloucester/

"while a late injury to Matt Healy sees John Porch switching from the wing to full back"

And Maksymiw over Dillane is an interesting call. Boyle not in the 23?

The inconsistency in the team/squad line up can't be a good thing

I'm not worried about Porch, he can cause havoc with space allowed at FB

Otherwise I'm not complaining at all (compared to McCabe starting in Toulouse)
Close to our best team IMO (including Robb I love), except Maskymiw (and Burke/Murphy/Kerrins on the bench)

No rain expected. Connacht win. Optimistic, it's rare!

connemara man · 06-12-2019 5:37pm

The Friend Zone

I like Maksymiw has all the tools to be a top quality Lock. He's found out the hard way this year what it takes to play at the top level ( he looked shellshocked coming off against Leinster) just needs a bit of bite in his game and experience and gametime to take that next step.

And releasing Dilllane on Gloucester at 60 minutes I like the sound of that. He's more Mobile, and can empty the tank for that 20 odd minutes.

connachta · 06-12-2019 6:48pm

connemara man wrote: »

I like Maksymiw has all the tools to be a top quality Lock. He's found out the hard way this year what it takes to play at the top level ( he looked shellshocked coming off against Leinster) just needs a bit of bite in his game and experience and gametime to take that next step.

And releasing Dilllane on Gloucester at 60 minutes I like the sound of that. He's more Mobile, and can empty the tank for that 20 odd minutes.

Macksymiw isn't bad but does not gain meters, which is Connacht need..

connachta · 06-12-2019 7:16pm

Here's our medical joker
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/leone-nakarawa-has-been-fired-by-racing-for-his-post-world-cup-absence

Dreams, dreams..
Sale go for him.

BakeMeACake · 06-12-2019 10:08pm

I would say, as a Connacht supporter of many years, we continue to be a little weak when exposed by injury. But I think Friend has done a decent job in bringing players forward and allowing those weaknesses not to look quite so weak. So names are added to the equation and given their chance. Putting Ultan on the bench was some call but it allows Joe to show his stuff. And I think that's a good call.

realhorrorshow · 07-12-2019 4:25pm

Will Goddard playing 10 for Wegians, probably not what he had in mind when he signed. Josh Dunne is at 6.

connachta · 07-12-2019 7:28pm

realhorrorshow wrote: »

Will Goddard playing 10 for Wegians, probably not what he had in mind when he signed. Josh Dunne is at 6.

Interesting. Maybe a replacement for Horwitz next season.

MarinersBlues · 08-12-2019 10:22am

Mul, it's over

GGGGGAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEE

DDDDDDDDAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!

IT'S CHAMPIONS CUP BABY!

connachta · 08-12-2019 11:30am

MarinersBlues wrote: »

GGGGGAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEE

DDDDDDDDAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!

IT'S CHAMPIONS CUP BABY!

FFS YEAHHH LOVE THESE DAYS
C'MON CONNACHT!!!!!

Euphoriasean · 08-12-2019 2:04pm

Jesus cut open there.

Euphoriasean · 08-12-2019 2:09pm

Porch been unreal so far, great try.

Bazzo · 08-12-2019 2:14pm

Mul, it's over

Jesus BT going absolutely spare about how long scrums take. Way over the top. Bitching about scrums taking 30 seconds, if they think that's an issue maybe they should be watching league.

Euphoriasean · 08-12-2019 2:16pm

Bazzo wrote: »

Jesus BT going absolutely spare about how long scrums take. Way over the top. Bitching about scrums taking 30 seconds, if they think that's an issue maybe they should be watching league.

He always has some agenda.

testtech05 · 08-12-2019 2:18pm

Some Like It TOH

The wind seems to have fecked up my tv signal. Don't suppose anyone has a link for the game they could pm me?

Bazzo · 08-12-2019 2:25pm

Mul, it's over

Euphoriasean wrote: »

He always has some agenda.

Who is it? Healy?

macslash · 08-12-2019 2:27pm

Mul, it's over

Bazzo wrote: »

Who is it? Healy?

Ya Healy. Need a bit more of a lead with that wind. Although we tend to do okay against the wind.

Euphoriasean · 08-12-2019 2:28pm

Bazzo wrote: »

Who is it? Healy?

Yep

Utopia Parkway · 08-12-2019 2:30pm

Fainga'a off with an injury. Damn.

Copeland on.

Euphoriasean · 08-12-2019 2:31pm

Euphoriasean wrote: »

Yep

Where was the pillar support for blade there

Bazzo · 08-12-2019 2:36pm

Mul, it's over

macslash wrote: »

Ya Healy. Need a bit more of a lead with that wind. Although we tend to do okay against the wind.

Euphoriasean wrote: »

Yep

Should have guessed if there was absolute ****e being spewed on BT it'd be him.

Euphoriasean · 08-12-2019 2:37pm

Penalty in front of the posts. Nonsense from Gloucester, got what they deserved there.

Utopia Parkway · 08-12-2019 2:43pm

Wind looks like it's picking up there. Second half will be tough.

Utopia Parkway · 08-12-2019 2:45pm

Carty not kicking great lately.

Larbre34 · 08-12-2019 2:46pm

Even for Cipriani that was one of the stupidest things I've seen on a rugby field.

Thanks for the belly laugh Dan.

08-12-2019 2:48pm

Larbre34 wrote: »

Even for Cipriani that was one of the stupidest things I've seen on a rugby field.

Thanks for the belly laugh Dan.

Always staggers me that professional rugby players don't know the laws of the game.

That said, I agree with Healey, I suspect that Cippers miskicked that dropout.

realhorrorshow · 08-12-2019 3:02pm

We're really struggling to defend Gloucester's double option plays in midfield, rain might help us in that regard.

Bazzo · 08-12-2019 3:10pm

Mul, it's over

For ****s sake

Euphoriasean · 08-12-2019 3:10pm

That's a killer

BigRigsOnly · 08-12-2019 3:11pm

Get Conor Fitz on, Carty has been shocking apart from that offload in the first half ðŸ€¬

08-12-2019 3:11pm

Trash... we just dont have the quality to challenge in this competition.

DDC1990 · 08-12-2019 3:12pm

10 point swing there.

Gloucester get away with a man lying on the Connacht side slowing it down and the next phase of play get the intercept try.

08-12-2019 3:12pm

Mul, it's over

Not rolling away surely

08-12-2019 3:13pm

DDC1990 wrote: »

10 point swing there.

Gloucester get away with a man lying on the Connacht side slowing it down and the next phase of play get the intercept try.

Ball was clearly available, but Blade acted the cretin.

08-12-2019 3:14pm

That's three howlers in about 4mins.

Burkie1203 · 08-12-2019 3:16pm

Mul, it's over

Did Carty throw that intercept pass?

Euphoriasean · 08-12-2019 3:22pm

171170 wrote: »

Ball was clearly available, but Blade acted the cretin.

Yeah but you want your SH asking the question. It's a fine line.

Bazzo · 08-12-2019 3:23pm

Mul, it's over

Starting to go pretty badly now....

Utopia Parkway · 08-12-2019 3:25pm

Carty struggling for form since coming back from the World Cup. Seems like he's been replaced in every game he's started recently.

Connacht Team Talk Thread V - The Friend Zone

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