â‚¬1m for forever home, where to live that's commutable to Dublin?

Lumen · 24-08-2016 5:51pm

Uriel. wrote: »

I know location, location, location etc but I'd be depressed spending that kind of money for those houses...

Also, such a "forever home" may end up underwater. :pac:

The residents of Sandymount appear to believe either (a) that their property is so valuable that it will be protected by the State at all costs, and/or (b) if they go down, Dublin is going down with them so what the hell.

I've always been a hill troll but horses for courses.

Elliott S · 24-08-2016 5:57pm

Dunno about anyone else but I'd much prefer a handsome 4-bed city red brick or townhouse to a countryside mini-mansion. I actually don't like the idea of having a very large house and hate gardening so the less, the better!

riclad · 24-08-2016 6:08pm

Anyone with kids needs a garden , you have to think how long does it take to go to school,
My friend lived on estate about a 15 minutes walk from town ,
When her kids reached 18 years old, she sold up,
bought a large house with 3 acres on it ,3 miles from town.
4 times bigger than the old house .
old house was 1000 sq ft.
Her kids could cycle or walk to visit friend s or go to a shop from the old house .
now it takes 15 minutes to drive to town .
Think how much time you spending driving to school, gym, football matches .
sports events if you live in a rural location.

the_syco · 24-08-2016 6:09pm

morrga wrote: »

Depends what OP what wants. City pad with limited space, traffic, noise or a country style mansion with huge gardens, peace and quiet of the countryside.

The latter, with a nearby train station that has trains regularly to Dublin, and that is also on the Dublin Nightlink service.

Eric Cartman · 24-08-2016 7:06pm

If you have 1m for a house , howth, portmarnock, malahide, skerries, dun laoighre, blackrock . Irelands east coast suburbs are your best bet. Wouldn't bother with the city as you get so much more house by only being 20-25 minutes by dart outside.

All irish houses have pretty awful sound insulation. I don't care what anyone says, spending anywhere near a million let alone over it on a house attached to , or within 10ft of another house , is a complete waste of money here. Its just not practical, especially if your children ever develop musical tendencies, or you like entertaining guests in the evening.

if you prefer a more rural vibe but very close to a village then this would be my pick : http://www.daft.ie/dublin/houses-for-sale/skerries/windermere-milverton-skerries-dublin-1191251/

if you want all the services on your doorstep then id be going for this : http://www.daft.ie/dublin/houses-for-sale/blackrock/virginia-seapoint-avenue-blackrock-dublin-1271501/

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Elliott S · 24-08-2016 7:38pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

All irish houses have pretty awful sound insulation.

All? I lived in a red brick terrace where not only could I not hear anything from next door, I couldn't hear anything from our sitting room next to my bedroom, even if someone was watching television in there. I now live in an apartment where the only time I hear the neighbours is when they are in the common hallway in front of our front door. And they have a baby!

Arcade_Tryer · 24-08-2016 11:09pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

if you prefer a more rural vibe but very close to a village then this would be my pick : http://www.daft.ie/dublin/houses-for-sale/skerries/windermere-milverton-skerries-dublin-1191251/

That is fabulous. Good taste.

Marcusm · 25-08-2016 1:57am

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

That is fabulous. Good taste.

Part two storey, part dormer but looks like it was constructed at the same time? Bizarre choice of construction.

lollpop · 25-08-2016 8:51am

With that budget I would definitely go for Dublin. Commuting from the surrounding counties when you have children (and have creche/school drop offs and collections) can be very stressful. I'd look for somewhere on a train line. I'm not that familiar with the areas on the south side but on the north side Clontarf & Raheny would be good choices, also Malahide is lovely but it's a little further out. They have good schools and plenty of outdoor places (parks/beaches) for kids. For that budget you'll get a pretty good size house, particularly if you're prepared to buy something around the 500-600 mark and add an extension/do it up yourself. A lot of the houses in desirable parts of these areas are old and being sold by elderly/deceased people so they need some work to bring them up to a modern standard.

Lux23 · 25-08-2016 1:52pm

Stheno wrote: »

Malahide would tick a lot of boxes.

I would go for Malahide too or maybe Dalkey.

markpb · 25-08-2016 1:55pm

lollpop wrote: »

With that budget I would definitely go for Dublin. Commuting from the surrounding counties when you have children (and have creche/school drop offs and collections) can be very stressful.

+1 to that.

I recently bought a house and paid €100k more to buy a smaller house on the southside than we could have bought on the northside but on the flipside, it's a five minute walk to the Luas, it's a ten minute drive to my office which is right beside my daughters creche and next year it'll take ten minutes to walk my eldest daughter to school. We leave home at 8:45 in the morning and we're home by 5:45 in the evening. Family time beats having a garden that we'd never see.

Edit: my children wake up at 5am and 6am so I get a *lot* of family time

spaceHopper · 25-08-2016 2:05pm

Look along the dart or LUAS Green line so you have easy access to the city for work, there is no point having a nice home only to spend all day in the car. I live in Shankill , would tick most of your boxes but I only see one house at 720K that might be suitable.

Also look at good bus services for example fox rock on the 46A route...

John_Rambo · 25-08-2016 9:22pm

Erica Powerful Vehemence wrote: »

Bloody hell that house is crap for the money, purely buying the view. No thanks. You would get a nicer and much bigger house for 300k outside Dublin.

And the proximity to the city, the good schools, excellent public transport links (DART and bus), good restaurants and cafés, the coastal setting beside the beach and close to parks, it's a well established, incredible area with a good community that boasts stunning amenities.

So, if you're interested in the above (which the OP is). It might actually good money for a house. He/she doesn't want a few hours commute from outside Dublin and then back again every day! A 300K "mansion" outside Dublin along with a grinding commute would be hell for a lot of people.

Just because you don't like beaches, parks, public transport, restaurants etc.. doesn't mean everyone else dislikes them. In fact, it's the opposite. The market proves that with the price tag on the house!

amtc · 25-08-2016 10:29pm

Castleknock for me...

riclad · 26-08-2016 9:40am

http://www.daft.ie/dublin/houses-for-sale/castleknock/the-cottage-strawberry-beds-castleknock-dublin-1271554/

if you look around, theres ordinary house,s with large gardens .
All over dublin .
Buy the house ,then add on 2 bedrooms, and a lounge, rec room .
Should be easy to get planning permission to build behind the house .
Even some corner houses on estates have large gardens .
Your commute should be 30 minutes max .

awec · 26-08-2016 11:07am

With that sort of budget you don't need to be screwing yourself over with a big commute.

100% buy in Dublin, somewhere along the green Luas or along the coast IMO. You won't be buying a small inner-city shoe box for that kind of cash.

26-08-2016 11:31am

Do you have to work in Dublin? If you could get similar work in Cork or Galway cities you could buy a savage house and a nice bit of land with it for less than your budget in either counties and be well within a hours commute to the city? I would be avoiding Dublin if at all possible if I was you, different of course if you are from there originally or have family there.

Elliott S · 26-08-2016 12:05pm

Erica Powerful Vehemence wrote: »

Do you have to work in Dublin? If you could get similar work in Cork or Galway cities you could buy a savage house and a nice bit of land with it for less than your budget in either counties and be well within a hours commute to the city? I would be avoiding Dublin if at all possible if I was you, different of course if you are from there originally or have family there.

Or like the place.

26-08-2016 12:16pm

Elliott S wrote: »

Or like the place.

I was just giving my opinion and another option by suggesting working elsewhere. Dublin is pretty much the last place in the country I would want to live myself.

Elliott S · 26-08-2016 12:18pm

Well, they said they need somewhere commutable to Dublin CC so I don't see the point in suggesting other parts of the country. They are not you.

superman28 · 26-08-2016 12:22pm

I agree that coastal locations are best if you have a decent budget,, I grew up in Howth, was a great place to live. 30 min Dart to city center,, on the coast,, grew up sailing,, good schools,, coastal walks,, safe,, If I could afford it I would be there now,,, second for me is Clontarf .. close to city,, again coastal walks,, nice parks,, good schools..

For that budget I would look there,, For me it's something like this maybe in Howth, then Clontarf then maybe Dalkey..

Theboinkmaster · 26-08-2016 2:18pm

superman28 wrote: »

I agree that coastal locations are best if you have a decent budget,, I grew up in Howth, was a great place to live. 30 min Dart to city center,, on the coast,, grew up sailing,, good schools,, coastal walks,, safe,, If I could afford it I would be there now,,, second for me is Clontarf .. close to city,, again coastal walks,, nice parks,, good schools..

For that budget I would look there,, For me it's something like this maybe in Howth, then Clontarf then maybe Dalkey..

Agreed on location but not a hope in hell would I buy that ugly yoke, can't believe they got planning for it and from the year it was built and those photos I'd say it's all style and no substance so really bad & cheap build quality.

26-08-2016 2:29pm

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

Agreed on location but not a hope in hell would I buy that ugly yoke, can't believe they got planning for it and from the year it was built and those photos I'd say it's all style and no substance so really bad & cheap build quality.

Amazing how taste differs, I was going to comment on how I really liked the house

Rew · 26-08-2016 2:37pm

superman28 wrote: »

For that budget I would look there,, For me it's something like this maybe in Howth, then Clontarf then maybe Dalkey..

For a million quid I would want a garden.

Dalkey, Sandycove, parts of Glenageary, parts of Dun Laoghaire would get my vote.

shootermacg · 26-08-2016 2:51pm

Goatstown for me. 5 minute walk to the Luas / Dundrum town centre.
Takes me around 15 minutes to cycle to Stephen's Green. Easy access to the M50. We send the kids to St Killians, just down the road, and hopefully, they'll be off to UCD afterwards which is also just down the road.

We lived in Sandyford originally, which was a bit remote but nice enough, but I'm happier where we are now. 1M will buy you a decent house there.

Elliott S · 26-08-2016 4:29pm

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

Agreed on location but not a hope in hell would I buy that ugly yoke, can't believe they got planning for it and from the year it was built and those photos I'd say it's all style and no substance so really bad & cheap build quality.

I think it's quite nice, if a little officey looking.

Pkiernan · 27-08-2016 6:57am

Stheno wrote: »

Malahide would tick a lot of boxes.

Agreed

Moonbeam · 27-08-2016 9:51am

Mr.S wrote: »

Commuting every day to Dublin? :eek: you'd go nuts.

It depends on where in Dublin and by what mode of transport and what time of day .
Maynooth to the city centre is about a 30 minute drive or 45 max on the train .

Moonbeam · 27-08-2016 9:55am

In Dublin I love Sutton ,Howth ,Malahide, Clontarf and Castleknock are all great locations . 1m won't go to far in some of them but they are great locations .

D0NNELLY · 27-08-2016 9:56am

http://www.daft.ie/11207426

Rew · 27-08-2016 10:46am

Moonbeam wrote: »

It depends on where in Dublin and by what mode of transport and what time of day .
Maynooth to the city centre is about a 30 minute drive or 45 max on the train .

I commuted from Maynooth, now im very happy to pay the premium to live closer to the city as it drove me mad.

3DataModem · 27-08-2016 10:47am

OhBlaDee5 wrote: »

We're in the very fortunate position to be moving back to Ireland and have a house budget of 1m. We're both Irish but been living in the US for past 10 yrs. Need somewhere that's commutable up to an hour to Dublin city centre. We're looking for the dream house. We have young children, looking for somewhere that has a nice community feel, good schools, reasonable transport links, and is generally a decent area to bring up a family. Would really appreciate suggestions. Looking at South/North Co Dublin, parts of Meath and Wicklow but tbh I feel I've been gone for Ireland for so long that I don't know areas anymore (granted I never really knew Wicklow). Thanks!

Howth. You can get a lot for that sort of money there right now, and it's a beautiful part of Dublin with a great local school and local stuff for kids.

markpb · 27-08-2016 2:35pm

Moonbeam wrote:

Maynooth to the city centre is about a 30 minute drive

At what time?

riclad · 27-08-2016 5:36pm

Between 5 and 7pm,mon-friday the roads all over dublin become very busy,
travelling by bus,luas or train is faster at those times.
Than driving a car
i presume the buyer wants a large house , a large garden, privacy and quiet ,So he wants to buy a 1 off , house , not a house thats 10 ft from his neighbours on a road, or in an estate .
my friend ,bought old house ,with 2 acres, knocked it down,
built house on the same site,
14 minutes drive from the local town.

Marcusm · 27-08-2016 9:17pm

riclad wrote: »

Between 5 and 7pm,mon-friday the roads all over dublin become very busy,
travelling by bus,luas or train is faster at those times.
Than driving a c
i presume the buyer wants a large house , a large garden, privacy and quiet ,So he wants to buy a 1 off , house , not a house thats 10 ft from his neighbours on a road, or in an estate .
my friend ,bought old house ,with 2 acres, knocked it down,
built house on the same site,
14 minutes drive from the local town.

Why assume that? The OP might very much want proximity to work and, more importantly, services and facilities. I paid a significant amount more than the OP proposes (also moved back from overseas) and I don't even have a 10 ft gap to my neighbour! Horses for courses.

SEPT 23 1989 · 27-08-2016 9:26pm

I would live by the sea nowhere else

Moonbeam · 28-08-2016 1:10pm

http://www.independent.ie/life/home-garden/homes/is-this-the-dream-dublin-home-for-city-dwellers-victorian-house-just-moments-from-grand-canal-dock-even-has-a-aga-34995775.html nice and central but small.

Eric Cartman · 28-08-2016 5:21pm

Moonbeam wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/life/home-garden/homes/is-this-the-dream-dublin-home-for-city-dwellers-victorian-house-just-moments-from-grand-canal-dock-even-has-a-aga-34995775.html nice and central but small.

895k and you have to pay for a parking permit. those notions can go die in a fire. That is pure insanity.

riclad · 28-08-2016 5:28pm

I Would buy a one off house with a large garden ,near a luas or railway station .
One with a large drive way, no permit needed .loads of space for 3 cars to
park .If i had 800k to spend.
Commute means to me , the person does not want to buy in an urban area ,or a city centre area .

28-08-2016 6:04pm

Eric Cartman wrote: »

895k and you have to pay for a parking permit. those notions can go die in a fire. That is pure insanity.

Absolute madness is right you woundn't be well in the head buying that place. If I was paying 895k for a house it would need a garage big enough for multiple cars never mind not even one off street parking spot.

Marcusm · 28-08-2016 7:05pm

Erica Powerful Vehemence wrote: »

Absolute madness is right you woundn't be well in the head buying that place. If I was paying 895k for a house it would need a garage big enough for multiple cars never mind not even one off street parking spot.

No interest in living in some of the leaflet parts of Dublin 4 or 6 so.

That being said I would not be in the slightest bit interested in that property for plenty of reasons apart from the parking.

28-08-2016 7:12pm

Marcusm wrote: »

No interest in living in some of the leaflet parts of Dublin 4 or 6 so.
.

None whatsoever, for a "forever home" countyside all the way.

dave 27 · 28-08-2016 7:22pm

As a blow in to Dublin if you still wanted to get that community feel I think greystones is a good bet. I'm from down the country and only been to greystones twice but my immediate impression was that it was a well off town with a buzz around it. Dart links to the centre of Dublin.
I may be wrong but I get the impression that it's the sort of new up and coming seaside town within commuting distance to Dublin but still in great location to visit the South East too

markpb · 28-08-2016 8:39pm

dave 27 wrote:

Dart links to the centre of Dublin.

People over estimate the Dart to Greystones. There's a 20 to 35 minute gap between trains *at rush hour*. Not terrible but not exactly metro either.

Elliott S · 28-08-2016 10:44pm

markpb wrote: »

People over estimate the Dart to Greystones. There's a 20 to 35 minute gap between trains *at rush hour*. Not terrible but not exactly metro either.

And the line is very prone to disruption as the Bray-Greystones portion goes around Bray Head.

awec · 28-08-2016 10:46pm

Erica Powerful Vehemence wrote: »

Absolute madness is right you woundn't be well in the head buying that place. If I was paying 895k for a house it would need a garage big enough for multiple cars never mind not even one off street parking spot.

There is more than just the size that determines the value of a house.

There is a reason it is cheap to build big houses in the sticks and it does not come without drawbacks.

Annasopra · 28-08-2016 11:30pm

markpb wrote: »

People over estimate the Dart to Greystones. There's a 20 to 35 minute gap between trains *at rush hour*. Not terrible but not exactly metro either.

Plus the extra cost. Its 10.80 return from Greystones and 6.85 from Bray - disgraceful 57% dearer

I would reccomend Greystones but that commuting cost is a disgrace

John_Rambo · 29-08-2016 12:09am

With that sort of money I'd strongly recommend the coastal villages on the DART line close to the city. Dalkey, Howth, Booterstown, Clontarf, Raheny etc... easy commute, good communities, schools and restaurants within walking/cycling access, easy access to the city.

No brainer.

Building something outside the county is cheaper for a reason. Avoid. Friends of mine did it and regret it. Hours in your car with difficult school/creche drop offs.

That house on the cul de sac in Grand Canal Dock is stunning. Cracking area, €50 parking permit that people are loosing it over isn't exactly a deal breaker!

riclad · 29-08-2016 12:19am

You can buy a house in county dublin , near the dart ,or a railway station , one with a large garden, not in an estate .
eg a large house does not need to be in the middle of nowhere .

â‚¬1m for forever home, where to live that's commutable to Dublin?

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