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ButtersSuki · 19-10-2020 10:41pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

This “the GAA is essential for the country’s mental health” nonsense is getting on my wick. I wish these GAA sycophants would realise there are people in this country who couldn’t give a toss about the GAA.

Do you know what would be good for the country’s mental health? Less of a focus on the GAA.

It seems that most would agree would my assertion above - 67% of those interviewed in the Amarach Reseach Poll on Claire Byrne Live tonight voted "no" to playing the Championships this year. And yet Colm O'Rourke and David Brady are on talking about GAA like it's the most important thing in the world again full of cliches and "ah shure look it" type soundbytes. FFS. :rolleyes:

ButtersSuki · 19-10-2020 10:43pm

Ha! Ha!

O'Rourke droped a bomb there for Claire Byrne with his teachers unions are "good at doing stupid things" comment. Lol.

DeanAustin · 19-10-2020 10:55pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

It seems that most would agree would my assertion above - 67% of those interviewed in the Amarach Reseach Poll on Claire Byrne Live tonight voted "no" to playing the Championships this year. And yet Colm O'Rourke and David Brady are on talking about GAA like it's the most important thing in the world again full of cliches and "ah shure look it" type soundbytes. FFS. :rolleyes:

That would mean that 33% of people would enjoy it. If it was a low risk activity and could bring joy to one third of the country, I'd say it's something worth doing.

I'm not a GAA fan by the way. But at the moment, soccer is about the brightest thing in my week (now they've taken golf away) and I genuinely look forward to the games. If one third of our population, almost 2 million people, felt the same about GAA then it should go ahead.

ButtersSuki · 20-10-2020 7:02am

DeanAustin wrote: »

That would mean that 33% of people would enjoy it. If it was a low risk activity and could bring joy to one third of the country, I'd say it's something worth doing.

I'm not a GAA fan by the way. But at the moment, soccer is about the brightest thing in my week (now they've taken golf away) and I genuinely look forward to the games. If one third of our population, almost 2 million people, felt the same about GAA then it should go ahead.

No. It was 24%, with the rest undecided.

Not sure what census you’re using to get your population base either btw - it’s the republic only.

generalgerry · 20-10-2020 7:13am

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Ha! Ha!

O'Rourke droped a bomb there for Claire Byrne with his teachers unions are "good at doing stupid things" comment. Lol.

He said the same thing when he was on head to head against the ASTI representative on the radio the other week. This was at the time that the union was suggesting that the teachers should go on strike.

DeanAustin · 20-10-2020 7:42am

ButtersSuki wrote: »

No. It was 21%, with the rest undecided.

Not sure what census you’re using to get your population base either btw - it’s the republic only.

Ok, so that’s something that could make 1 million people in the ROI happy. Well worth doing if it’s deemed sufficiently low risk on that basis. Life is **** enough as it is.

ButtersSuki · 20-10-2020 8:25am

DeanAustin wrote: »

Ok, so that’s something that could make 1 million people in the ROI happy. Well worth doing if it’s deemed sufficiently low risk on that basis. Life is **** enough as it is.

By that logic if 1million people decide not to wear masks that’s ok then?

fire_man · 20-10-2020 8:26am

Mark just let the guests speak.Very frustrating listening to that.

DeanAustin · 20-10-2020 8:38am

ButtersSuki wrote: »

By that logic if 1million people decide not to wear masks that’s ok then?

Then you aren't reading my post. I said "if it's deemed sufficiently low risk". Not wearing masks is deemed high risk.

ButtersSuki · 20-10-2020 9:04am

DeanAustin wrote: »

Then you aren't reading my post. I said "if it's deemed sufficiently low risk". Not wearing masks is deemed high risk.

No, I read your post alright. Your central point is that if enough people want it they should get it.

As someone who works in a hospital and who has access to a lot more information than you have on this I can tell you it's not low risk.

DeanAustin · 20-10-2020 9:19am

ButtersSuki wrote: »

No, I read your post alright. Your central point is that if enough people want it they should get it.

As someone who works in a hospital and who has access to a lot more information than you have on this I can tell you it's not low risk.

Well you're willfully ignoring what I wrote then. In two posts, I said "if it's deemed sufficiently low risk". Read what I posted, not what you want me to have posted.

How many cases have resulted from inter county GAA games so far?

Softshoulder · 20-10-2020 10:54am

Jess Kelly on this morning with an "amazing app" that tells you what song based on humming it.

She said Shazam you have to sing. No you don't, humming works too.

Jess Kelly is so uninformed. Tech expert my arse, I think her target audience must be 60 year olds who type with one finger.

parttime · 20-10-2020 11:12am

Totally agree with you. And that young fella she has on talking about phones on techtalk at the weekend. Jesus wept

ButtersSuki · 20-10-2020 12:23pm

DeanAustin wrote: »

Well you're willfully ignoring what I wrote then. In two posts, I said "if it's deemed sufficiently low risk". Read what I posted, not what you want me to have posted.

How many cases have resulted from inter county GAA games so far?

Did I say there were any? It's just that they can't seem to control themselves thereafter. You are very much aware that several outbreaks have been linked to post-match celebrations (incl. by players) at club level. There haven't been inter county games save for this past weekend so it's too early to tell - but let's just ignore that.

And let's ignore the fact that O'Rourke and Brady have a financial interest in the games going ahead with their various punditry and commercial gigs. Brady even managed to slip in his AIB ad tagline "I honestly believe we're closer as a society more now than ever" (or whatever it is) into the proceedings last night.

DeanAustin · 20-10-2020 12:53pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Did I say there were any? It's just that they can't seem to control themselves thereafter. You are very much aware that several outbreaks have been linked to post-match celebrations (incl. by players) at club level. There haven't been inter county games save for this past weekend so it's too early to tell - but let's just ignore that.

And let's ignore the fact that O'Rourke and Brady have a financial interest in the games going ahead with their various punditry and commercial gigs. Brady even managed to slip in his AIB ad tagline "I honestly believe we're closer as a society more now than ever" (or whatever it is) into the proceedings last night.

I'd imagine the GAA will be come down like a tonne of bricks on any player seen to be breaking guidelines with the bad press they got. Counties won't participate in the same stupidity that some of the clubs did. If they do, they should be absolutely hammered for it.

You may have a point on O'Rourke and Brady. They have a vested interest. I just think that if something could bring joy to 1 million people and could be done safely, they should do it. Life's rubbish at the moment, GAA could genuinely give people something to look forward to.

I wouldn't watch it myself but I know soccer really is the only bit of light for me in this ****show. I genuinely look forward to the games every week.

mr_edge_to_you · 20-10-2020 2:08pm

DeanAustin wrote: »

Life's rubbish at the moment, GAA could genuinely give people something to look forward to.

I wouldn't watch it myself but I know soccer really is the only bit of light for me in this ****show. I genuinely look forward to the games every week.

It would be great to be able to afford Sky Sports to be able to watch football/GAA. Unfortunately, when you're trying to pay a mortgage, 2 car loans, feed 2 children on €300 a week paying for a premium tv subscription isn't really an option.

DeanAustin · 20-10-2020 2:33pm

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

It would be great to be able to afford Sky Sports to be able to watch football/GAA. Unfortunately, when you're trying to pay a mortgage, 2 car loans, feed 2 children on €300 a week paying for a premium tv subscription isn't really an option.

I'd imagine so. As patronising as this sounds, I feel massively for people in your position at the moment. It's f**king horrible.

And it's a very fair point you make so I think the government should do what they can to make as many games as possible free to air and not allow SKY to gouge people like the Premier League did. An extra €15-€20 for individual matches from people on top of their multiple subscriptions when the world is struggling is immoral in my opinion.

It's no wonder so many take the dodgy box option.

Softshoulder · 20-10-2020 2:39pm

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

It would be great to be able to afford Sky Sports to be able to watch football/GAA. Unfortunately, when you're trying to pay a mortgage, 2 car loans, feed 2 children on €300 a week paying for a premium tv subscription isn't really an option.

Sounds like you're living beyond your means. 2 car loans?

You've only been getting 300 for a few weeks and it's back to 350 now.

So you and your wife will be getting 2800 a month. Let's say 1200 on a mortgage, that leaves 400 a week, plenty!

And I'm sure you took a 6 month mortgage break meaning you would have been saving a bomb during the previous 6 months.

20-10-2020 3:01pm

Softshoulder wrote: »

Sounds like you're living beyond your means. 2 car loans?

You've only been getting 300 for a few weeks and it's back to 350 now.

So you and your wife will be getting 2800 a month. Let's say 1200 on a mortgage, that leaves 400 a week, plenty!

And I'm sure you took a 6 month mortgage break meaning you would have been saving a bomb during the previous 6 months.

Its not! It's only back to €350 if you earned over €400 per week before Covid. Many people don't.
I earned €397 a week , I lost my job in September and I now get €300 a week. I would give anything to have a job right now. Believe me very few people who are on the PUP want to be sitting at home during Winter, its absolutely soul destroying.

I am single. I don't think €400 a week left over after paying mortgage is that much for the OP. Not with 2 kids, insurance, car tax, NCT, heating and lighting bills, groceries, petrol, bin charges, property tax, medical expenses...........and 2 car loans. Many people need 2 cars as most people in a couple are both working to pay for the mortgage. Kids have to be dropped to creche/school/ sports and a 2nd car is a necessity especially in the country.

You sound completely out of touch.

Softshoulder · 20-10-2020 3:12pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Its not! It's only back to €350 if you earned over €400 per week before Covid. Many people don't.
I earned €397 a week , I lost my job in September and I now get €300 a week. I would give anything to have a job right now. Believe me very few people who are on the PUP want to be sitting at home during Winter, its absolutely soul destroying.

I am single. I don't think €400 a week left over after paying mortgage is that much for the OP. Not with 2 kids, insurance, car tax, NCT, heating and lighting bills, groceries, petrol, bin charges, property tax, medical expenses...........and 2 car loans. Many people need 2 cars as most people in a couple are both working to pay for the mortgage. Kids have to be dropped to creche/school/ sports and a 2nd car is a necessity especially in the country.

You sound completely out of touch.

No one needs 2 car loans. I have no sympathy.

I find it hilarious people trying to keep up with the Jones's maxing themselves out.

Step 1 of being financially responsible is saving up for 6-12 months of living expenses. I could get 0 social welfare for the next 6 months and I'd still be able pay my bills.

I'm telling ya, if I got a 6 month payment break on rent, getting 350 a week, I'd be laughing. Jeez, how do people on the dole survive at all eh?

mr_edge_to_you · 20-10-2020 3:42pm

Softshoulder wrote: »

Sounds like you're living beyond your means. 2 car loans?

You've only been getting 300 for a few weeks and it's back to 350 now.

So you and your wife will be getting 2800 a month. Let's say 1200 on a mortgage, that leaves 400 a week, plenty!

And I'm sure you took a 6 month mortgage break meaning you would have been saving a bomb during the previous 6 months.

I swear if you said that to me face to face I would probably deck you. I'll refrain from name calling here though.

I am not living beyond my means. Thankfully as a result of prudent financial planning I am somewhat able to whether this storm. We haven't had to request any holidays/breaks etc but its impacting on our savings massively. We've also had to scale back any unnecessary spending - such as Sky TV.

Mortgage is only one thing you have to worry about. Health insurance, mortgage protection policy, electricity, heating, insurance (home and car), motor tax, fuel for cars, local property tax, TV licence fee, doctors/dentists/pharmacy, grocery shopping, broadband and phone bills. Last week €65 of my PUP was spent on a GP consultation and prescription because of a back injury.

Up until August this year I never received a cent in state support as an adult (bar of course child support). Since losing my job a few months back I've received a fraction of what I paid in PAYE/USC earlier in the year through the PUP.

Softshoulder · 20-10-2020 3:51pm

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

I swear if you said that to me face to face I would probably deck you. I'll refrain from name calling here though.

I am not living beyond my means. Thankfully as a result of prudent financial planning I am somewhat able to whether this storm. We haven't had to request any holidays/breaks etc but its impacting on our savings massively. We've also had to scale back any unnecessary spending - such as Sky TV.

Mortgage is only one thing you have to worry about. Health insurance, mortgage protection policy, electricity, heating, insurance (home and car), motor tax, fuel for cars, local property tax, TV licence fee, doctors/dentists/pharmacy, grocery shopping, broadband and phone bills. Last week €65 of my PUP was spent on a GP consultation and prescription because of a back injury.

Up until August this year I never received a cent in state support as an adult (bar of course child support). Since losing my job a few months back I've received a fraction of what I paid in PAYE/USC earlier in the year through the PUP.

Health insurance is not that important.

Mortgage protection is about 10 euro a month at most...

Heating costs have dropped about 40%.

TV licence is 12 euro a month.

Phone bill can be had for 10 euro a month.

mr_edge_to_you · 20-10-2020 4:00pm

Softshoulder wrote: »

Health insurance is not that important.

Yes it is. Its very important.

Softshoulder wrote: »

Mortgage protection is about 10 euro a month at most...

No its not.

Softshoulder wrote: »

Heating costs have dropped about 40%.

No they haven't. I don't use oil or gas.

Softshoulder wrote: »

TV licence is 12 euro a month.

True

Softshoulder wrote: »

Phone bill can be had for 10 euro a month.

True but may not suit everyone.

Softshoulder · 20-10-2020 4:03pm

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

Yes it is. Its very important.

No its not.

No they haven't. I don't use oil or gas.

True

True but may not suit everyone.

How do you heat your house then?

How much is mortgage protection?

Think you need to look at your finances and costs buddy!

mr_edge_to_you · 20-10-2020 4:16pm

Softshoulder wrote: »

How do you heat your house then?

How much is mortgage protection?

Think you need to look at your finances and costs buddy!

I use an energy efficient geo thermal heatpump which runs on a low rate night meter.

Mortgage protection is €10 per month if your mortgage is €100k repayable over 10 years, under your own name/single applicant. Curious to know what sort of a house you live in or what sort of life you live?

I'm an accountant.

SAMTALK · 20-10-2020 4:20pm

Softshoulder wrote: »

How do you heat your house then?

How much is mortgage protection?

Think you need to look at your finances and costs buddy!

Jeez will you give it a rest !

It's not up to you to tell him what he should and shouldnt have. This is a hard time for everyone and judgemental people like you are tiring.

DeanAustin · 20-10-2020 4:25pm

Softshoulder wrote: »

No one needs 2 car loans. I have no sympathy.

I find it hilarious people trying to keep up with the Jones's maxing themselves out.

Step 1 of being financially responsible is saving up for 6-12 months of living expenses. I could get 0 social welfare for the next 6 months and I'd still be able pay my bills.

I'm telling ya, if I got a 6 month payment break on rent, getting 350 a week, I'd be laughing. Jeez, how do people on the dole survive at all eh?

I love how other people project their stereotypes on others. That's pretty poor. You don't know the poster - you've no right to judge them or why they have two car loans.

You can really see a smug unpleasantness from some people throughout this pandemic.

mr_edge_to_you · 20-10-2020 4:39pm

DeanAustin wrote: »

I love how other people project their stereotypes on others. That's pretty poor. You don't know the poster - you've no right to judge them or why they have two car loans.

You can really see a smug unpleasantness from some people throughout this pandemic.

Its a mad world and a mad time.

Its funny when he refers to "keeping up with the Jones" because I'm not so sure the Jones' are driving an 8 year old Hyundai car!

Softshoulder · 20-10-2020 11:31pm

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

Its a mad world and a mad time.

Its funny when he refers to "keeping up with the Jones" because I'm not so sure the Jones' are driving an 8 year old Hyundai car!

Car loan on an 8 year old car?

You're going wrong if you have a loan on an 8 year old car.

Piehead · 20-10-2020 11:47pm

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yosser hughes · 21-10-2020 1:13pm

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

Its a mad world and a mad time.

Its funny when he refers to "keeping up with the Jones" because I'm not so sure the Jones' are driving an 8 year old Hyundai car!

Do you have a car loan on an 8 year old car?

ButtersSuki · 23-10-2020 8:57am

Thankfully they’ve ditched “Sportschat with Ciara and Quinny”; “Sportschat with Shane and Quinny” isn’t much better btw but at least you know now at least one of the two of them have watched the sport they’re talking about - even if it’s not Quinny.

fire_man · 23-10-2020 4:05pm

Can't understand how Quinny is still on the payroll.The sports on breakfast show is pointless. Only or two topics discussed and all other sports ignored.

zell12 · 24-10-2020 10:17am

Ciara Kelly has quit twitter
Twitter obituary: the account of Ciara Kelly passed away this evening after a long battle with irritable gowl syndrome.

sassyj · 24-10-2020 10:20am

zell12 wrote: »

Ciara Kelly has quit twitter
Twitter obituary: the account of Ciara Kelly passed away this evening after a long battle with irritable gowl syndrome.

As a person who craves attention, I imagine she'll be back at some stage.

ButtersSuki · 24-10-2020 11:08am

zell12 wrote: »

Ciara Kelly has quit twitter
Twitter obituary: the account of Ciara Kelly passed away this evening after a long battle with irritable gowl syndrome.

Not sure if you’re being serious or not? Has she really ditched twitter?

hamburgham · 24-10-2020 12:58pm

Her twitter account has been deleted.It is a bit odd as she was saying during the week that she was addicted to it. Was she getting abuse? It couldn’t have anything to do with her Covid views , could it? She was one of the few who was saying that the restrictions are an overreaction.

ButtersSuki · 24-10-2020 1:21pm

hamburgham wrote: »

Her twitter account has been deleted.It is a bit odd as she was saying during the week that she was addicted to it. Was she getting abuse? It couldn’t have anything to do with her Covid views , could it? She was one of the few who was saying that the restrictions are an overreaction.

Might be more to do with her doxxing of a rape victim.

redbuck · 24-10-2020 2:16pm

From what I’ve seen on Twitter I think some far right people were endorsing her views. She was being called the Irish Katie Hopkins.

I’d quit too if someone compared me to that witch.

redbuck · 24-10-2020 2:19pm

If Shane Coleman ever quits I wonder could we get the dream team of Dr Kelly and Paul Williams on air?

ButtersSuki · 24-10-2020 2:24pm

redbuck wrote: »

From what I’ve seen on Twitter I think some far right people were endorsing her views. She was being called the Irish Katie Hopkins.

I’d quit too if someone compared me to that witch.

Oh lol!

Loving “the Irish Katie Hopkins” nickname!

ButtersSuki · 24-10-2020 2:24pm

redbuck wrote: »

If Shane Coleman ever quits I wonder could we get the dream team of Dr Kelly and Paul Williams on air?

Williams was ok with Brendan O’Connor this morning. He hasn’t changed.

zerosugarbuzz · 24-10-2020 2:28pm

I very much dislike Ciaras Me Me Me way of presenting and could never have her on for very long before switching off. But, she has been brave and in my view quite right about the over reaction to Covid. The majority of the sheep in media are just scaremongering in their echo chamber.

zerosugarbuzz · 24-10-2020 2:30pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Williams was ok with Brendan O’Connor this morning. He hasn’t changed.

Seriously? Williams sounds so bad he should never be left near a microphone. Shouda been a Garda as he is a useless journalist.

ButtersSuki · 24-10-2020 2:34pm

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

I very much dislike Ciaras Me Me Me way of presenting and could never have her on for very long before switching off. But, she has been brave and in my view quite right about the over reaction to Covid. The majority of the sheep in media are just scaremongering in their echo chamber.

She’s done more than her fair amount of scaremongering herself. She keeps using the example that we are going for more restrictions than any other EU country; when she knows full well the reason for that is because of the acute bed (and ICU beds in particular) shortage and in Ireland, and comparative ratio to all other EU countries.

ButtersSuki · 24-10-2020 2:36pm

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

Seriously? Williams sounds so bad he should never be left near a microphone. Shouda been a Garda as he is a useless journalist.

Yeah I was quite surprised myself tbh but he did about 5mins on John Gilligan and the hun found in Spain.

Btw, we’ll soon have to call him Dr. Paul Williams as he’d doing a PhD at the moment. He didn’t mention this btw, but that’s what he’s doing!

wirelessdude01 · 24-10-2020 2:36pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Might be more to do with her doxxing of a rape victim.

Very publicly as well. That woman was fairly vocal in what happened with dear Ciara.

zerosugarbuzz · 24-10-2020 2:53pm

ButtersSuki wrote: »

She’s done more than her fair amount of scaremongering herself. She keeps using the example that we are going for more restrictions than any other EU country; when she knows full well the reason for that is because of the acute bed (and ICU beds in particular) shortage and in Ireland, and comparative ratio to all other EU countries.

She is not scaremongering, we actually do have more restrictions that any other EU country. And why should we all be on lockdown because we dont have enough ICU beds. At best get more ICU beds and staff and at worst strongly advise anyone at risk to self isolate. If I were in the vulnerable groups I would not expect everyone to stay in on my behalf.

ButtersSuki · 24-10-2020 2:57pm

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

She is not scaremongering, we actually do have more restrictions that any other EU country. And why should we all be on lockdown because we dont have enough ICU beds. At best get more ICU beds and staff and at worst strongly advise anyone at risk to self isolate. If I were in the vulnerable groups I would not expect everyone to stay in on my behalf.

That post really shows how little you know about hospitals and ICU beds.

You need 4 x trained ICU nurses for every ICU bed, not to mention other equipment. Even if the Govt. tomorrow opened an ICU only hospital with 1000 beds there’s not enough ICU nurses out there to staff them. There’s not enough to staff 10 new beds. Guess how many ICU-trained nurses are sitting on their holes doing nothing or are unemployed in Ireland right now? Zero.

You say get more beds like it’s flicking a switch. Ffs. :rolleyes:

And that’s why it’s scaremongering.

ButtersSuki · 24-10-2020 3:00pm

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

She is not scaremongering, we actually do have more restrictions that any other EU country. And why should we all be on lockdown because we dont have enough ICU beds. At best get more ICU beds and staff and at worst strongly advise anyone at risk to self isolate. If I were in the vulnerable groups I would not expect everyone to stay in on my behalf.

Possibly the most uninformed post I’ve seen on boards in a long time, and that’s saying something. Actually wondering are you trolling now.

I hope you or your family aren’t in need of the health service now or on the future if that’s your attitude.

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