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Saving/Applying for a mortgage 2015/16/17/18/19

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    123Katie wrote: »
    Sorry if this sounds like a silly question,

    Lets say I have been loan approved and paid my deposit on a new home,

    When do my actual mortgage payments begin?

    Thank you

    One month after (usually) the mortgage is drawdown.

    I drew down my mortgage on a Wednesday, their solicitor got the money the next day and we got keys on the Friday, but our mortgage account was active from the Wednesday so we will pay our first payment one month after this.

    You haven't drawndown yet so the account isn't active yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 176 ✭✭Powerfairy


    gezz36 wrote: »
    We did have to tell them date to issue funds, give them a date for 3 days before closing so no hold ups. I was happy when funds were with my solicitor, no hold on our end then. I did end up ringing mortgages direct to see what stage they were at when all documents went in. Ring every morning and afternoon if you have to. Also contact home insurance to have your policy emailed to you so you can email directly to mortgages if they have not received it. Double check they have everything else outstanding and they have solicitor bank details to transfer, much quicker than a cheque. Best of luck!

    Thanks that's solid advice, I will give them a call first thing to follow up. I think i need to be more pushy about it! Thanks!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,021 ✭✭✭whatever76


    thanks for that - such a head wreck and just dont know how to play it ( congrats on your purchase ) ... such a sellers market at the moment , not to mention Esate Agents !!
    Im begining to think that maybe my plan b as well but will just have to wait and see !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭flashforward


    Anyone concerned about rising interest rates with the latest markets falling and talk of hikes?

    If it is to happen I wonder how long it would take banks here to react


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,781 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Anyone concerned about rising interest rates with the latest markets falling and talk of hikes?

    If it is to happen I wonder how long it would take banks here to react

    Rates are only going one way, it's just a question of when.
    Crystal ball time as to when they start to go up and by how much as with a lot of this.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭fg1406


    izzyflusky wrote: »
    Happened to my parents. Broken banister, door glass cracked, rubbish everywhere... The solicitor was onto them though and they ended up having to issue a check to cover some of the costs. Very unpleasant.

    OK mine wasn’t that bad at least! It was still awful to walk into a property that was filthy with food mashed into carpets and a stale dirty smell and kids artwork drawn directly onto the walls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭bricky06


    I have been reading this thread for some time and found it very useful so thanks for all the info and tips.

    We have just started out on this whole process. If anyone can recommend a good solicitor we would really appreciate it. We are ftbs and are currently looking at a new development in Wicklow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,723 ✭✭✭Villa05


    Anyone concerned about rising interest rates with the latest markets falling and talk of hikes?

    You won't go too far wrong if you fix now for 10 years at a time when rates are at record lows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,723 ✭✭✭Villa05


    Anyone concerned about rising interest rates with the latest markets falling and talk of hikes?

    You won't go too far wrong if you fix now for 10 years at a time when rates are at record lows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭TheShow


    123Katie wrote: »
    Sorry if this sounds like a silly question,

    Lets say I have been loan approved and paid my deposit on a new home,

    When do my actual mortgage payments begin?

    Thank you

    Not until a month after you drawdown the mortgage/close the sale usually.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11 123Katie


    TheShow wrote: »
    Not until a month after you drawdown the mortgage/close the sale usually.

    Thank you for the advice


  • Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭danmanw8


    Simona1986 wrote: »
    Saving 1k a month at the moment and have about 16k saved so far. Problem is we're still n Dublin so to get anything decent we're looking at 250-300k. Very difficult with the lending limits as we only make 65k between us. Also we do not want to buy an apartment or a 'starter home' with the difficulty in trading up under the new rules. We're both under 30 though so we can hang on a year or two.

    I feel very sorry for people in Dublin, I don't know how people are able to buy houses there at all :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭izzyflusky


    Question for those who have gone through the process of buying. How long did it take for the sign of sale agree to go up on daft?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,997 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    izzyflusky wrote: »
    Question for those who have gone through the process of buying. How long did it take for the sign of sale agree to go up on daft?

    Thats pretty much the estate agents job. Some don't bother updating even after its sold.


  • Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭Lolle06


    izzyflusky wrote: »
    Question for those who have gone through the process of buying. How long did it take for the sign of sale agree to go up on daft?

    Sometimes you have to „nudge“ the EA a bit, to get them to mark the property as „sale agreed“ or „sold“ - and even afterwards they often leave the ads still online as proof of their successful work.

    Normally they should mark a property as „sale agreed“ as soon as a deposit is paid and details are exchanged. But some EA‘s are fairly slow in updating their ads accordingly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 603 ✭✭✭zedhead


    When we went sale agreed on the first property (that eventually fell through), the agent wouldn't mark it as Sale Agreed. They said they never do until contracts are signed as the buyer could pull out prior to that. They don't arrange viewings and tell anyone that call up the situation and put them on a list to be contacted should the sale fall through. We were inexperienced so accepted their explanation - and of course the sale fell through around 8 months later.

    The 2nd property we went sale agreed on (and the one we bought and are living in now), the ad was marked sale agreed within hours of the deposit being paid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭JDD


    8 months later??? Did you withdraw?

    I'd be a little wary of an EA who won't mark an advert sale agreed. It means they're happy for you to get gazumped. I know sometimes the advert acts as a good portal so that if a potential buyer rings up you can say "oh that's gone sale agreed but we do have a lovely similar property in the area...". Having said that, EAs are not short of buyers at the moment so I'd be cynical and think it's left up in case there's another buyer who'll pay more out there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 603 ✭✭✭zedhead


    JDD wrote: »
    8 months later??? Did you withdraw?

    I'd be a little wary of an EA who won't mark an advert sale agreed. It means they're happy for you to get gazumped. I know sometimes the advert acts as a good portal so that if a potential buyer rings up you can say "oh that's gone sale agreed but we do have a lovely similar property in the area...". Having said that, EAs are not short of buyers at the moment so I'd be cynical and think it's left up in case there's another buyer who'll pay more out there.

    It was in a chain and the vendors were buying a bank sale house which kept pushing out closing. Eventually the vendors cancelled the sale - said they couldn't handle the stress of the delays of the purchase side of the chain, they were on the verge of splitting up over it apparantly (I kept an eye out and the property didn't go up for sale again nor has it appeared on Property Price Register, so it appears they just decide to stay put).

    We learnt out lesson on it, and thankfully the next house went from sale agreed to us getting keys in roughly 3 months with no major hiccups.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭izzyflusky


    We have only gone sale agreed this week. I transfered the booking deposit yesterday (sent proof) and should have cleared today. I'll wait a few more days to see just in case.
    The sellers were eager to move on (after previous buyers had to pull out) but you hear so many horror stories...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,144 ✭✭✭stargazer 68


    We are closing next week and the property is still not sale agreed on daft or myhome.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭stryker mcqueen


    Are overdrafts a big no no when saving? I have a small one of €300 , i have dipped into it every month and pretty much consider it part of my wage at this stage ,but no big deal to get rid of it ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭Michellenman


    Are overdrafts a big no no when saving? I have a small one of €300 , i have dipped into it every month and pretty much consider it part of my wage at this stage ,but no big deal to get rid of it ....

    I had a €200 one and broker advised it wasn't an issue as long as I never went over it and had a dd bounce etc. About 2 months before applying I tried to stop using it except for €50 here or there every couple of months, some months were more successful than others. It might not be an issue but doesn't look great if you are counting as part and of salary at this stage. Maybe try wean your way off it over then couple of salary payments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭izzyflusky


    Just to update on my question earlier. I spoke to the EA and he said that once the survey is done and I'm happy with it then the sign of sale agreed goes up. Happy enough with that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭sullydublin


    izzyflusky wrote: »
    Just to update my question earlier. I spoke to the EA and he said that once the survey is done and I'm happy with it then the sign of sale agreed goes up. Happy enough with that.

    Once you've put a deposit on a house the EA should put sale agreed signs up and likewise on daft and my home etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭sullydublin


    Question for anyone who has recently completed selling and buying recently. How long does the process take? We are sale agreed to a first-time buyer and we are buying a new build. It's my view that should speed things up?


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭Bargain_Hound


    Received mortgage approved today. Delighted. New build which is not due for completion for another 6-7 months. Approval lasts 6 months, due to sign contracts next week.

    What happens if sale does not close until just after 6 months? Do I need to reapply? Concious as the approval also has a 3.5 x salary exemption. Feeling anxious handing over the full deposit on signing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭conormc1984


    Received mortgage approved today. Delighted. New build which is not due for completion for another 6-7 months. Approval lasts 6 months, due to sign contracts next week.

    What happens if sale does not close until just after 6 months? Do I need to reapply? Concious as the approval also has a 3.5 x salary exemption. Feeling anxious handing over the full deposit on signing.

    You will just get an extension when it running out, need to supply bank with some statements again, think its more so just to prove that you still have income. Similar is happening to me. The exception will remain too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭chrismon


    Hi all.
    We have most of our deposit saved over the past 15 months, few quid to deposit and we have our goal.
    We are looking to apply for a mortgage at the minute.
    Do ye recommend a broker or doing it all ourselves (every euro counts at this stage).
    Is there anything to look out for when researching mortgaged apart from the usual fixed/variable rates etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 223 ✭✭syndrome777


    Received mortgage approved today. Delighted. New build which is not due for completion for another 6-7 months. Approval lasts 6 months, due to sign contracts next week.

    What happens if sale does not close until just after 6 months? Do I need to reapply? Concious as the approval also has a 3.5 x salary exemption. Feeling anxious handing over the full deposit on signing.



    I had income exception, and when my AIP expired and we replied, the exemption limit was higher (banks do that a few times a year) and we could not get the exemption.
    Check with your bank about that.
    I was with AIB and was wormed initially that we will be reassessed with the "new" exemption limit when are AIP expires
    this was last year when AIB only had AIP for 6 months, now they have for 12, so if you are not with them, maybe it would be wise to go and get you AIP from them as well.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭elainers


    Received mortgage approved today. Delighted. New build which is not due for completion for another 6-7 months. Approval lasts 6 months, due to sign contracts next week.

    What happens if sale does not close until just after 6 months? Do I need to reapply? Concious as the approval also has a 3.5 x salary exemption. Feeling anxious handing over the full deposit on signing.

    Try get a loan offer clause in your contract so at least you'll get your deposit back if you don't get approval at drawdown. Not ideal as you wouldn't get the house but better than losing your deposit. Also could you save over the next six months to close the gap and not require an exemption?


  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭sullydublin


    chrismon wrote: »
    Hi all.
    We have most of our deposit saved over the past 15 months, few quid to deposit and we have our goal.
    We are looking to apply for a mortgage at the minute.
    Do ye recommend a broker or doing it all ourselves (every euro counts at this stage).
    Is there anything to look out for when researching mortgaged apart from the usual fixed/variable rates etc.

    Use a broker who gets paid by the banks. Thats what we need.


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭Bargain_Hound


    I had income exception, and when my AIP expired and we replied, the exemption limit was higher (banks do that a few times a year) and we could not get the exemption.
    Check with your bank about that.
    I was with AIB and was wormed initially that we will be reassessed with the "new" exemption limit when are AIP expires
    this was last year when AIB only had AIP for 6 months, now they have for 12, so if you are not with them, maybe it would be wise to go and get you AIP from them as well.

    Had you already accepted the loan offer and signed contracts though? That's the stage I'm at now signing but hoping come 6 months when the house is more than likely not going to be complete that I can just apply for a loan offer extension to get over the line. Bank manager didn't seem concerned as she suggested I will only need to provide up to date payslips and bank statements to push the offer out another 6 months. I'm guessing this is not the exact same as applying for approval in principle new application again? not 100% sure what to believe.
    elainers wrote: »
    Try get a loan offer clause in your contract so at least you'll get your deposit back if you don't get approval at drawdown. Not ideal as you wouldn't get the house but better than losing your deposit. Also could you save over the next six months to close the gap and not require an exemption?

    Saving the whole amount in difference in 6 months not really an option combined with the level of rent currently being paid right up to move time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 223 ✭✭syndrome777


    Had you already accepted the loan offer and signed contracts though? That's the stage I'm at now signing but hoping come 6 months when the house is more than likely not going to be complete that I can just apply for a loan offer extension to get over the line. Bank manager didn't seem concerned as she suggested I will only need to provide up to date payslips and bank statements to push the offer out another 6 months. I'm guessing this is not the exact same as applying for approval in principle new application again? not 100% sure what to believe.

    No we weren't at that stage, however that doesn't matter as the reason why you are extending the offer does not matter to the bank.
    I just know any extension is assessed under current rules and levels
    (I work in the bank so I know )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭TheShow


    Received mortgage approved today. Delighted. New build which is not due for completion for another 6-7 months. Approval lasts 6 months, due to sign contracts next week.

    What happens if sale does not close until just after 6 months? Do I need to reapply? Concious as the approval also has a 3.5 x salary exemption. Feeling anxious handing over the full deposit on signing.

    The reapply part is “straight forward” enough, just up to date payslips and bank statements.

    The exception could be an issue though, as it depends on what level of drawdowns have completed with an exception up to that point. If you’re running into the latter half of the year I’d be mildly concerned. In 2017 most banks stopped doing exceptions around July as they hit their quotas. Best to clarify exactly with your bank in relation to how the exemption will be treated. I.e. will it carry on with the reapproval without issue, or will they need to reapply for an exception.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭JDD


    I asked our BOI mortgage advisor specifically about this point. We got our AIP in mid-January, with an exemption, to last for six months. We're hoping to buy a new build which may not be finished until July. She said that there would be no problem with getting an extension of a couple of months - with the exemption - as long as our circumstances hadn't changed: i.e. we'll probably have to submit payslips and bank statements again. But there seemed to be no issue regarding the exemption.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 83 ✭✭goofy141


    Has anyone had hassle getting an exemption from PTSB?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    goofy141 wrote: »
    Has anyone had hassle getting an exemption from PTSB?

    I had no issues - but we had a a good savings history, no other financial commitments and a large deposit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 521 ✭✭✭Bargain_Hound


    JDD wrote: »
    I asked our BOI mortgage advisor specifically about this point. We got our AIP in mid-January, with an exemption, to last for six months. We're hoping to buy a new build which may not be finished until July. She said that there would be no problem with getting an extension of a couple of months - with the exemption - as long as our circumstances hadn't changed: i.e. we'll probably have to submit payslips and bank statements again. But there seemed to be no issue regarding the exemption.

    I've got an approval with an exception with 2 banks. Waiting to sign contracts next week. Both banks provided the same answer when I asked them about expiry of the loan offer on a new build. Both confirmed they haven't had a situation yet where the renewal of the exception on a new build has failed. I'm still not 100% confident in the answers, it really sounds like nobody knows what will happen, just as much as nobody in the banks probably know how many exceptions have actually been given out vs. drawn down.

    Although once the property contracts have a clause put on them to be subject to your loan funding, at least the deposit is not lost if your approval is not extended - just 6 months waiting for nothing - which in my opinion is nearly as bad as loosing your deposit :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭JDD


    I know what you mean bargain-hound. It's the main reason why we're still looking at second hand houses and will do right up to the day we'll have to give the full deposit on a new house. Exemptions aren't counted as exemptions until they are drawn down, so the risk would be that BOI are keeping a tally of the exemptions given, and once the six months is up that €450k or whatever they are lending you becomes fair game for another applicant. Plus you'd have to take your chances with another underwriter. But I'm hoping it doesn't come to that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭TheShow


    JDD wrote: »
    I asked our BOI mortgage advisor specifically about this point. We got our AIP in mid-January, with an exemption, to last for six months. We're hoping to buy a new build which may not be finished until July. She said that there would be no problem with getting an extension of a couple of months - with the exemption - as long as our circumstances hadn't changed: i.e. we'll probably have to submit payslips and bank statements again. But there seemed to be no issue regarding the exemption.

    I’d be looking for that in writing, just to be sure.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 157 ✭✭dev_ire


    Sorry if this is asked/answered but is there any way to track interest rates on a semi up to date basis?

    If you are on variable can they change daily, weekly, monthly? Does it happen whenever without notice?


  • Registered Users Posts: 249 ✭✭gargargar


    Just wondering how people find KBC to deal with?

    I am going through preapproval at the moment and the person I am dealing with is very relaxed. You might almost say a celtic tiger attitude. I applied for preapproval with EBS 3 years ago and they almost wanted a blood sample. Went through my bank statements with a fine-tooth comb. It may be that that will happen with KBC as I progress.

    Has anybody experience with a couple of institutions? Are KBC more relaxed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,217 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Finally. Finally. Signing contracts early next week.
    After going sale agreed in October it's been a long slog but I *think* its getting to the close now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭teaontap


    gargargar wrote: »
    Just wondering how people find KBC to deal with?

    I am going through preapproval at the moment and the person I am dealing with is very relaxed. You might almost say a celtic tiger attitude. I applied for preapproval with EBS 3 years ago and they almost wanted a blood sample. Went through my bank statements with a fine-tooth comb. It may be that that will happen with KBC as I progress.

    Has anybody experience with a couple of institutions? Are KBC more relaxed?

    I've had the opposite experience haha. KBC were terrible and EBS have been great so far really relaxed and accommodating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 427 ✭✭izzyflusky


    gargargar wrote: »
    Just wondering how people find KBC to deal with?

    I am going through preapproval at the moment and the person I am dealing with is very relaxed. You might almost say a celtic tiger attitude. I applied for preapproval with EBS 3 years ago and they almost wanted a blood sample. Went through my bank statements with a fine-tooth comb. It may be that that will happen with KBC as I progress.

    Has anybody experience with a couple of institutions? Are KBC more relaxed?

    I went through a broker but found KBC very relaxed also. They had queries about some transactions in my statements, genuine ones that I was expecting but I thought they would have wanted documentation to support my explanations but nope, an email was enough. I could have said anything basically.


  • Registered Users Posts: 249 ✭✭gargargar


    teaontap wrote: »
    I've had the opposite experience haha. KBC were terrible and EBS have been great so far really relaxed and accommodating.

    That's weird isn't it. Maybe it also it comes down to who you are dealing with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭purpleisafruit


    gargargar wrote: »
    That's weird isn't it. Maybe it also it comes down to who you are dealing with.
    I dealt with AIB and there was no questions other than the fact that a woman with the same name as my wife living in the same area had some terrible credit history. We've come across it in the past too with previous credit applications too!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 b.o.d.


    ELM327 wrote: »
    2000/2050 is generally the banks figure for non-child couples.. each child (with AIB+BOI anyway) added 250.

    Do you much is it for a single person with children ?

    long time lurker but trying to get things together to start the process now so need to ask a few questions :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭Michellenman


    Anyone do a house inspection before closing? We are getting the keys on Monday (*dances*) but I want to make sure the place is clear and empty and hasn't been trashed in the last 8 months. Is there anything in particular to look out for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    Anyone do a house inspection before closing? We are getting the keys on Monday (*dances*) but I want to make sure the place is clear and empty and hasn't been trashed in the last 8 months. Is there anything in particular to look out for?
    Congratulations!!

    No advice though, but good luck!


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