Does Sinn Fein have a social media problem?

FrancieBrady · 23-02-2021 9:50pm

blanch152 wrote: »

Between the five of them, they still have the vast majority of people in this country voting for them.

And they'll keep swapping power as their vote share continues to drop. The main two...from 86% to just over 40%.

Anyway, way off topic.

blanch152 · 23-02-2021 10:14pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

And they'll keep swapping power as their vote share continues to drop. The main two...from 86% to just over 40%.

Anyway, way off topic.

Not necessarily.

The social media problem of Sinn Fein is probably why 75% plus of voters will swap between all other parties except Sinn Fein.

FrancieBrady · 23-02-2021 10:23pm

blanch152 wrote: »

Not necessarily.

The social media problem of Sinn Fein is probably why 75% plus of voters will swap between all other parties except Sinn Fein.

That's great...show us the data on that one?

blanch152 · 23-02-2021 11:07pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

That's great...show us the data on that one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Irish_general_election

Sinn Fein's highest vote was 24.5% in the last general election. Unless and until they get over 25%, my proposition holds.

FrancieBrady · 23-02-2021 11:09pm

blanch152 wrote: »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Irish_general_election

Sinn Fein's highest vote was 24.5% in the last general election. Unless and until they get over 25%, my proposition holds.

Before the last election you were putting a ceiling of 18% on them. They are now running much higher in the polls at around 28-30%. Obviously social media 'problems' are not living up to your expectations.

Edgware · 26-02-2021 7:47pm

S.F. claim to be in government in the North when things are good. When they are not they said "its Westminster controls the budget" Even when the FFFG Green government are messing up in the South SF still cant seem to break the 30% mark in the polls. Some of their younger TDs who have capabilities are never heard while all we get is McDonalds who is getting a bit wearying, Louise O Reilly ( who was a good Health spokesperson and should have been left there) and "Up the Ra" Cullinane who is spokesperson for "stating the bloody obvious"

blanch152 · 28-02-2021 1:36am

https://www.independent.ie/news/sinn-fein-urges-councillor-paddy-holohan-to-remove-post-backing-beauty-salon-owner-40136910.html

As long as SF have gobsh!tes like Holohan representing them, they will continue to have a social media problem.

"In another Facebook post, Mr Holohan said you can “bet your house” gardai would not attend a meat plant in the same numbers as those who attended Ms McTiernan’s beauty salon. “Aldi has 100s of People a day pass through, this shop probably wouldn’t see 100 a month,” he said."

What a clown, but there are still people on here that will defend him.

Brendan Bendar · 28-02-2021 8:21am

blanch152 wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/news/sinn-fein-urges-councillor-paddy-holohan-to-remove-post-backing-beauty-salon-owner-40136910.html

As long as SF have gobsh!tes like Holohan representing them, they will continue to have a social media problem.

"In another Facebook post, Mr Holohan said you can “bet your house” gardai would not attend a meat plant in the same numbers as those who attended Ms McTiernan’s beauty salon. “Aldi has 100s of People a day pass through, this shop probably wouldn’t see 100 a month,” he said."

What a clown, but there are still people on here that will defend him.

Correct and right, can’t se the big picture, sure hadn’t we gloamers here ‘attacking’ the Gardai for feeling Megaphone Murphy’s collar early in the morning when the world and his wife knows if it was later by invitation, the Jobstown mob would be there, bristling with Samsungs and IPhone6Ss to make as much trouble as possible.

Boy Blue would be there agitated as ever.:D

FrancieBrady · 28-02-2021 10:23am

blanch152 wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/news/sinn-fein-urges-councillor-paddy-holohan-to-remove-post-backing-beauty-salon-owner-40136910.html

As long as SF have gobsh!tes like Holohan representing them, they will continue to have a social media problem.

"In another Facebook post, Mr Holohan said you can “bet your house” gardai would not attend a meat plant in the same numbers as those who attended Ms McTiernan’s beauty salon. “Aldi has 100s of People a day pass through, this shop probably wouldn’t see 100 a month,” he said."

What a clown, but there are still people on here that will defend him.

The problem with Holohan is not so much himself (Although he is a liability and the SHinners should get rid) but the selective attention to him on social media, and the 'quality' of our councillor stock in the country in general. A 'councillor' in this country of any party is liable to do or say anything.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/commentanalysis/arid-20175093.html

https://www.pbp.ie/calls-for-public-apology-over-fascist-comments-from-fine-gael/

blanch152 · 01-03-2021 3:10pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The problem with Holohan is not so much himself (Although he is a liability and the SHinners should get rid) but the selective attention to him on social media, and the 'quality' of our councillor stock in the country in general. A 'councillor' in this country of any party is liable to do or say anything.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/commentanalysis/arid-20175093.html

https://www.pbp.ie/calls-for-public-apology-over-fascist-comments-from-fine-gael/

You are indeed correct that any councillor of any party is liable to do or say anything.

The problem for Sinn Fein is that in playing Stupid Councillor Bingo, the person with the Holohan card is calling Full House, before anyone else marks their card.

blanch152 · 02-03-2021 12:56pm

The social media problems of Sinn Fein continue.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/sinn-fein-mp-hazzards-china-solidarity-tweet-prompts-backlash-40141595.html

A tweet from one of their MPs has resulted in a backlash from the Alliance, Greens, SDLP, FF, UK Labour, and interestingly Amnesty International.

Quite a stir that one has made.

astrofool · 02-03-2021 10:54pm

blanch152 wrote: »

The social media problems of Sinn Fein continue.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/sinn-fein-mp-hazzards-china-solidarity-tweet-prompts-backlash-40141595.html

A tweet from one of their MPs has resulted in a backlash from the Alliance, Greens, SDLP, FF, UK Labour, and interestingly Amnesty International.

Quite a stir that one has made.

While it is fun to stir, I presume all members of the Alliance, Greens, SDLP, FF, UK Labour have stopped buying and are giving away all items they own that were made in China, in solidarity of course.

StupidLikeAFox · 03-03-2021 12:34am

astrofool wrote: »

While it is fun to stir, I presume all members of the Alliance, Greens, SDLP, FF, UK Labour have stopped buying and are giving away all items they own that were made in China, in solidarity of course.

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Ah cmon now, a sinn fein representative has praised Xi for eradicating inequalities and asserted "solidarity" with the Chinese regime, while Xi has presided over a stupid number of human rights abuses.

You could have said you agree, or disagree, or disagree but think he has the right to free speech, or that his views don't align with sinn fein, or any other number of logical conclusions, etc etc

Instead you go through some serious mental gymnastics to try and deflect to *everyone else* apart from either sinn fein or the guy who tweeted How in jaysus' name does the opposition buying Chinese goods even factor into your thinking here? Like you can be in favour of ff/fg/sf or whoever, but if you get to this level of deflection you need to seriously consider your level of critical thinking. Its symbolic of a political system like the USA, where you pick a colour (red or blue) instead of a political party - we do not want to go down that road.

Some of the sinn fein leadership are very capable - but this weird cult-like following that they have cultivated, that they are the saviours to "FFG" and "Liebour", is bizarre. No political party is perfect, sinn fein followers would do well to understand that sometimes its OK to criticise the party or its representatives

Hotblack Desiato · 03-03-2021 1:03pm

astrofool wrote: »

While it is fun to stir, I presume all members of the Alliance, Greens, SDLP, FF, UK Labour have stopped buying and are giving away all items they own that were made in China, in solidarity of course.

Ridiculous.

That tweet is pure CCP propaganda.

So, what's SF's stance on the oppressed people of Hong Kong shortly about to be re-colonised? :rolleyes:

Hotblack Desiato · 03-03-2021 1:04pm

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

No political party is perfect, sinn fein followers would do well to understand that sometimes its OK to criticise the party or its representatives

Old habits and all, in the past that'd get you face down in a ditch in Monaghan.

blanch152 · 03-03-2021 2:25pm

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Ridiculous.

That tweet is pure CCP propaganda.

So, what's SF's stance on the oppressed people of Hong Kong shortly about to be re-colonised? :rolleyes:

They won't care what happens them, they have been freed from the yoke of British imperialism. That they lose all democratic freedoms as a result is the price you pay to be free from the Brits.

FrancieBrady · 03-03-2021 2:30pm

Folks, you are mistaking 'social media problems' with dislike of a political stance.

If somebody picks out a single policy of Trump or Biden or any western leader, I for one, do not take it as a general endorsement, nor should others. Easy targets and venting with agendas and all that.

Fann Linn · 03-03-2021 2:35pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Folks, you are mistaking 'social media problems' with dislike of a political stance.

If somebody picks out a single policy of Trump or Biden or any western leader, I for one, do not take it as a general endorsement, nor should others. Easy targets and venting with agendas and all that.

Exactly, it's comedy central in this place. Wasn't too long ago the boyos in FG rolled out the red carpet to vice president of China, including Coveney, Noonan and others and welcomed them here and there were no concerns over human rights etc.

Brendan Bendar · 03-03-2021 2:35pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Folks, you are mistaking 'social media problems' with dislike of a political stance.

If somebody picks out a single policy of Trump or Biden or any western leader, I for one, do not take it as a general endorsement, nor should others. Easy targets and venting with agendas and all that.

No mistake here, we are well able to evaluate these policies.

No need for ‘sermons’ I would suggest.

FrancieBrady · 03-03-2021 3:00pm

Fann Linn wrote: »

Exactly, it's comedy central in this place. Wasn't too long ago the boyos in FG rolled out the red carpet to vice president of China, including Coveney, Noonan and others and welcomed them here and there were no concerns over human rights etc.

Yes, the age old 'integrity problems' have been replaced with the new fangled 'social media problems'.

Good loser · 04-03-2021 1:17am

Fann Linn wrote: »

Exactly, it's comedy central in this place. Wasn't too long ago the boyos in FG rolled out the red carpet to vice president of China, including Coveney, Noonan and others and welcomed them here and there were no concerns over human rights etc.

The problems with the Uighers and the wiping out of democracy in Hong Kong became well known after the visit of Xi to Ireland.

Good loser · 04-03-2021 1:23am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Folks, you are mistaking 'social media problems' with dislike of a political stance.

If somebody picks out a single policy of Trump or Biden or any western leader, I for one, do not take it as a general endorsement, nor should others. Easy targets and venting with agendas and all that.

Consider also SF's endorsement of the criminal drug dealing Maduro regime in Venezuela.

Brendan Bendar · 04-03-2021 8:26am

Good loser wrote: »

Consider also SF's endorsement of the criminal drug dealing Maduro regime in Venezuela.

Consider also their opposition to the Special Criminal Court.

James Brown · 09-03-2021 5:11pm

Good loser wrote: »

The problems with the Uighers and the wiping out of democracy in Hong Kong became well known after the visit of Xi to Ireland.

So the PRC had a grand reputation on human rights, right up until then?

Good loser · 10-03-2021 9:29pm

James Brown wrote: »

So the PRC had a grand reputation on human rights, right up until then?

The Uighers and Hong Kong were step changes downwards by Xi - and for the worse.

Read at the time that Ireland was one of the few European countries he could visit without potentially noticeable protests.
See where the recent coup in Myanmar has been described in China as a 'major cabinet reshuffle'!!!

StupidLikeAFox · 28-03-2021 12:01pm

Mary lou posted this yesterday. Somehow a campaign targetting people committing welfare fraud is now similar to helping out your mates with vaccines, and its somehow Leos fault as well.

If FG tried this stunt (tried to associate Mary Lou with some unrelated scandal she had no part in) they would feel the full force of the provisional online army

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10159472938701332&id=58340031331

29-03-2021 9:34pm

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/sinn-fein-confirms-two-party-supporters-based-in-serbia-are-involved-in-managing-its-facebook-accounts-40251974.html

Turns out that SF have two administrators for their social media accounts based in Serbia. I wonder what that’s all about? Are these Good Republicans Irish, is this a part time/unpaid role, and why didn’t they choose some of their thousands of extremely dedicated and vocal online supporters to take up the role instead? They also have over 200 employees so you’d imagine you could a few of them to do this work as part of their role.

It’s a very unusual story, and I don’t think we’ve heard the last of it.

L1011 · 29-03-2021 9:45pm

The trawl of TDs accounts after the rather awful Sindo cartoon did not come out well for SF. Or the Soc Dems tbh.

If you're going to make a thing of a witch reference being misogynistic, maybe make sure you never, ever made the same reference about another female party leader.

That Serbia thing is clearly absolute nonsense of the highest order too. To have two random unnamed supporters in a distant country that are both somehow trusted enough to admin major accounts is utterly implausible.

blanch152 · 30-03-2021 9:13am

Deleted User wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/sinn-fein-confirms-two-party-supporters-based-in-serbia-are-involved-in-managing-its-facebook-accounts-40251974.html

Turns out that SF have two administrators for their social media accounts based in Serbia. I wonder what that’s all about? Are these Good Republicans Irish, is this a part time/unpaid role, and why didn’t they choose some of their thousands of extremely dedicated and vocal online supporters to take up the role instead? They also have over 200 employees so you’d imagine you could a few of them to do this work as part of their role.

It’s a very unusual story, and I don’t think we’ve heard the last of it.

Most likely it is a way to avoid SIPO rules in some way. I would guess it is more of a financial issue rather than a social media one.

Hoboo · 30-03-2021 9:19am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/sinn-fein-confirms-two-party-supporters-based-in-serbia-are-involved-in-managing-its-facebook-accounts-40251974.html

Turns out that SF have two administrators for their social media accounts based in Serbia. I wonder what that’s all about? Are these Good Republicans Irish, is this a part time/unpaid role, and why didn’t they choose some of their thousands of extremely dedicated and vocal online supporters to take up the role instead? They also have over 200 employees so you’d imagine you could a few of them to do this work as part of their role.

It’s a very unusual story, and I don’t think we’ve heard the last of it.

From the Indo, that's like quoting a negative story about FG from An Phoblacht.

Brendan Bendar · 30-03-2021 9:38am

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

Mary lou posted this yesterday. Somehow a campaign targetting people committing welfare fraud is now similar to helping out your mates with vaccines, and its somehow Leos fault as well.

If FG tried this stunt (tried to associate Mary Lou with some unrelated scandal she had no part in) they would feel the full force of the provisional online army

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10159472938701332&id=58340031331

You see ‘Welfare Fraud’ is ok Fox... ‘Shure aren’t they one of our own’

StupidLikeAFox · 30-03-2021 9:47am

Hoboo wrote: »

From the Indo, that's like quoting a negative story about FG from An Phoblacht.

Nice attempt at deflection but was also reported in the examiner and SF have confirmed it to be true, so not sure what your point is

blanch152 · 03-04-2021 1:58pm

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/former-facebook-manager-based-in-dublin-and-serbia-runs-sinn-fein-social-media-here-and-us-40269972.html

Seems like Sinn Fein are working hard and spending a lot of money on fixing their social media problems.

Does Sinn Fein have a social media problem?

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