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I feel I'm not a priority in my relationship - can it last?

  • 22-06-2020 7:22am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    I'm with my boyfriend 4 years. We're both late 40s. We used to live in the same village. After 2 years together, family members of his moved from our village to another town an hour away. To cut a long story short, my boyfriend missed them so much he decided to move also. They are a couple with 4 kids. I was really surprised and a bit upset when he told me he'd decided to move, but he's no commitments to me so that's his right. A lot of the times we only see each other for 1 night a week now due to the distance between us.

    Now I've come to realise that he's so content spending most of his time with them. During lockdown it was every day. They do a lot of things together.

    I feel they're the central part of his life, his priority, happy to see them all of the time and me some of the time.

    Saying that, I'm an independent person, not needy, have my own little cottage, but am finding this difficult at times. Things are fine otherwise in the relationship but this has put a dampener on things for me.

    Am I reasonable to be feeling this way?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭ronivek


    It is absolutely reasonable to feel the way you do about the situation.

    Did he discuss it with you at all at the time or did he just inform you he had made his decision and that was that? Were you living together at the time or at any stage?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    There wasn't really time to discuss it. He hadn't even planned on moving but, without giving all the details, he had to make a quick decision. He just said he didn't want it to affect our relationship.

    We've never lived together, no talk of it in the future. Anyway, it's not a place I would like to or that would suit me to live, for various reasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,457 ✭✭✭Tork


    I'm not sure the two of you are in the same relationship at all. Moving away like this was a huge step to take and a clear signal that you weren't a priority in his life. What did you say to him at the time? Was there any sort of discussion at all? After 2 years together at the time, the logical step might have been for the pair of you to move in together not for him to move away. I'd love more detail on what you said and did at the time. Did he ask you to move with him?

    How on earth can things be mostly fine when you're now a part time girlfriend? Have you had any sort of discussion with him about how he feels about the relationship now that it has gone backwards?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,457 ✭✭✭Tork


    There wasn't really time to discuss it. He hadn't even planned on moving but, without giving all the details, he had to make a quick decision. He just said he didn't want it to affect our relationship.

    We've never lived together, no talk of it in the future. Anyway, it's not a place I would like to or that would suit me to live, for various reasons.

    Sorry to be harsh here but I think you're being made a fool of. This guy decided to prioritise his family over his girlfriend and made a huge decision which would affect his relationship profoundly. How could it not? I get the impression that he more or less announced that he was off and you were left standing on the sidelines. He has demonstrated in the two years since that you're not important. Yet you're still going along with this, even though it's going nowhere. Why? Are you afraid of being single?

    Do the pair of you ever have proper conversations? I'm getting a sense that you don't really talk about the important things that are going on here. You've said you've not talked about the future. After 4 years, 2 years of which have been long-distance, I think you're entitled to be asking questions about where this is going. I think you're afraid to ask because you won't like the answers. That is, if he is honest. He has the best of both worlds here. He has his relatives to spend time with (filling a void that in his life that you weren't fulfilling?) and you for a bit of a diversion one night a week. Maybe he likes it that way - an almost commitment free relationship with a bit of regular sex thrown in. That isn't a proper relationship in any meaningful sense of the word.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭hairyprincess


    Were they his children who moved?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    No, neither of us have children.

    Tork, you've hit the nail on the head in all you've said.


  • Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭redfox123


    This is very strange I don’t get from your OP who exactly are these children and who is the couple? Why would he follow them when they move and spends all his time with another couple and their kids? If they are his kids, who is the couple?
    Either way this arrangement is going nowhere for you, you are just a (very) part time girlfriend who gets a few hours now and again when he is away from his pseudo family. Break it off with him, don’t be afraid of being single it’s far better than this sham.


  • Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭bitofabind


    It seems like at the point where most relationships are progressing, yours took a step in the other direction when your boyfriend took the decision to move away from you. Not many people would feel happy or secure with that.

    Have you had any discussions about where you both see the relationship going? Four years is a long time to have no real forward movement. Do you want to live together eventually, maybe get married, live a more integrated life?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,758 ✭✭✭Xterminator


    Hi Op

    i would ask what your long term aims for this relationship are? What are his long term goals? Are the 2 sets of goals compatible?

    have you sat down and talked about this stuff? if your both looking for casual companionship then perhaps this is a blip you can get by. If this is supposed to lead to a committed living together relationship then i think you are in big trouble as a couple.

    It is probably time for you to take stock here, and see if this relationship is meeting your needs, and if you think it has a future. Then when you know your own mind, I'd suggest a solemn heart to heart with your partner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,084 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    You are not a girlfriend in any sense of the word.

    If it suits you to be in a cash-free sexual exchange, then work away.

    But if you want more, you need to look elsewhere.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Emme


    OP did you post about him some time ago buying a house and not letting you get involved? If so your relationship was over then. I might have said to you (if it was you) that he was stringing you along until he found somebody he wanted to be serious with or he was happy on his own with the occasional bit of no strings sex thrown in. He's been using you ever since he moved and as long as you're willing to put up with crumbs he'll keep throwing on the ground for you to lap up.

    It's not easy but pick yourself up and move on Don't entertain him when he comes back to your area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    We have never really had a discussion at all about the future. I tried to bring our situation up with him recently, that I felt I wasn't a priority, that he'd moved away to be nearer to them. His only response was "I don't know what to say". I feel he should have said something about our relationship and how it was also important to him.

    I find this all difficult because when we do spend time together we get on and he treats me well. I feel though we're at an impasse and don't know how it can be overcome.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,323 ✭✭✭happyday


    Hi OP. I suppose really what it comes down to is is a visit once a week from a boyfriend of four years enough for you? He treats you well one day a week. Is that good enough? You are not being treated as an equal here. But if you are willing to put up with it then that's your decision.

    It seems very strange to me that his commitment is to another family and their children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,457 ✭✭✭Tork


    I was really surprised and a bit upset when he told me he'd decided to move, but he's no commitments to me so that's his right.

    So why did you feel after a 2 year relationship that there was no commitment there? There are many couples who are getting engaged or having children or preparing to buy a home together 2 years in. Yet you felt all you could do was stand by and watch your so-called boyfriend move his whole life for some family members he couldn't live without.

    I'm surprised you've put up with this for 2 years. By making that decision without consulting you, he was telling you a lot of things you ignored. He was telling you that you weren't as important as his brother/sister, nieces and nephews*. That he could make huge decisions without including you in them and not give your feelings any consideration. That your relationship wasn't fulfilling enough for him and that it wasn't filling an emotional hole in his life.

    You sound very passive and willing to accept treatment no right-thinking woman would. You should've taken the hint 2 years ago and ended this. That 2 years on you're still wondering can this work says a lot about your mindset and self-confidence. I can't see how much difference breaking up with this man would make to your life considering how rarely you actually see him. He's living an hour away and playing happy families with kids that aren't his. I bet you don't cross his mind as much as he crosses yours. Wake up and smell the coffee hun. You're being used.


    * This is a guess


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭Aseth


    I'm with my boyfriend 4 years. (...) I was really surprised and a bit upset when he told me he'd decided to move, but he's no commitments to me so that's his right.

    (...)we get on and he treats me well

    Tork actually summed it all up in his posts, really.
    I will just ad that you being in a relationship for 4 yrs and saying your bf has no commitments is quite shocking. About 2yrs in you should already know if you want to spend your life together(whether married or not), or have a house. Either you are too afraid to ask some serious questions about the 2 of you or your bf is in a very cosy space, where he can do whatever and you will still be around no matter what happens. Possibly both.

    I reread your original post and maybe he feels like he is missing out on having his own children and therefore is so involved with his family kids. You are late 40s so for you the only option is adoption(or maybe, but I'm not a doctor, in vitro?). Anyways it wouldn't be easy. But he at least owes you an honest answer so I think you two should have a conversation about what you want from this relationship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Emme


    Aseth wrote: »
    I reread your original post and maybe he feels like he is missing out on having his own children and therefore is so involved with his family kids. You are late 40s so for you the only option is adoption(or maybe, but I'm not a doctor, in vitro?). Anyways it wouldn't be easy. But he at least owes you an honest answer so I think you two should have a conversation about what you want from this relationship.

    From what the OP said he's not Dad material. If he can't make up his mind to commit to her it's unlikely he'd be able to commit to children of his own. A lot of older men have children with much younger women as an ego boost. They do very little caring for the children, just trot them out every now and then as proof of their virility at an advanced age, particularly if the children are boys.

    Eitherways the OP is being made a fool of. She should not stick around as a stopgap if he is looking for a brood mare.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,152 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hannibal_Smith


    Emme wrote: »
    From what the OP said he's not Dad material. If he can't make up his mind to commit to her it's unlikely he'd be able to commit to children of his own. A lot of older men have children with much younger women as an ego boost. They do very little caring for the children, just trot them out every now and then as proof of their virility at an advanced age, particularly if the children are boys.

    There are plenty of men out there who's circumstances have lead them to have children later in life and they are fantastic dads. Your age doesn't determine the type of parent you will be, your personality does.

    OP, you must have been so hurt when he moved away. Did you talk about it at the time? Do you think it's his way or no way a lot?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭Aseth


    Emme wrote: »
    From what the OP said he's not Dad material.

    But we are not judging his ability to be(or not) a good dad. He might feel like he is missing out and that might result in that type of behaviour.
    Anyway we can be only guessing but there is really only one way to find out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Emme


    Aseth wrote: »
    But we are not judging his ability to be(or not) a good dad. He might feel like he is missing out and that might result in that type of behaviour.
    Anyway we can be only guessing but there is really only one way to find out.

    The OP is in her late 40s. Suggesting that he spending time with children because he has missed out on having them (he hasn't, he's a man, he can do it any time he wants) won't help the OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,457 ✭✭✭Tork


    It's likely that your boyfriend doesn't want anything more than a part-time girlfriend. I have a friend a few years older than your boyfriend who currently has a part-time set-up. He has mostly lived on his own for years despite having a couple of relationships in that time. He really values his own space and is open about that. Before Covid-19, his friend used to come to his place at weekends and then they'd rarely see each other during the week. They go on holidays together too which he likes. We've had several conversations about her because she really annoys him at times but he can't keep away from her. I think he's leading her up the garden path a bit and using her for companionship but that's their issue to deal with. He likes her well enough and I'm sure he's very nice to her when she comes around. He enjoys their weekends together but is glad when Sunday night comes around and she goes home. He says he has a friend who has the same sort of thing going with a different lady. The point I'm making is that there are men out there who don't want a full-blown relationship. It's probably no coincidence that my friend and his mate are around the same age and are a bit set in their ways or in no rush to settle down again.

    The reason your boyfriend didn't know what to say is because he can't explain this away without letting the cat out of the bag. Something tells me he is very happy with the current set-up. Let's not forget he instigated all of this. He lives near these family members who are important to him, he has you for a bit of a distraction and his life is nice and uncomplicated and on his terms. You should read everything into what he didn't say when you tried to have this conversation with him. I suppose it's good that he didn't try to bull**** you by saying the relationship was important to him when it demonstrably isn't. Not being able to have conversations like this is a huge red flag in my book. It suggests the relationship is one-sided and that you don't feel confident or comfortable enough to talk to him properly. That is one more reason why you should cut your losses and leave him be. Unless you want to be a part-time girlfriend?


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  • Administrators Posts: 14,385 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    Are you happy in the relationship? Is it suiting you at the moment? Are you getting what you want from it/him?

    If you are, then carry on.
    If you're not, let him know. It will probably mean the end if the relationship because he is unlikely to move back. But you're not really in a relationship as it is. You're on standby.

    If you freed yourself from this you would either be happier alone, or free to maybe meet someone else.


  • Administrators Posts: 14,385 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    By the way, you ask "can it last?". I would say that is entirely dependent on you. It sounds like he has the perfect setup for himself. So he will happily go along like this for as long as you go along with it.


  • Posts: 1,007 [Deleted User]


    We have never really had a discussion at all about the future. I tried to bring our situation up with him recently, that I felt I wasn't a priority, that he'd moved away to be nearer to them. His only response was "I don't know what to say". I feel he should have said something about our relationship and how it was also important to him.
    Tork wrote: »
    The reason your boyfriend didn't know what to say is because he can't explain this away without letting the cat out of the bag.

    Bingo! "I don't know what to say ... because you're making a fair point but I have no intention of admitting that. You are not my priority and I don't want anything to change so I'll say no more on the subject."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    I was in a relationship similar to this. I felt lonely the whole time. Just leave, life is too short to be treated as a part time girlfriend with no true intimacy (apologies if there is some projection from my side!).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,281 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    Tork, I'd just like to add.. If your friend's female companion is happy with this set up, then it's their business. Just because it's unorthodox to a lot doesn't mean it can't work for two consenting people.
    So the OP, needs to clarify if this part time arrangement is what she signed up for and if she has communicated to her male friend that she is no longer happy with it.

    To thine own self be true



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,457 ✭✭✭Tork


    Tork, I'd just like to add.. If your friend's female companion is happy with this set up, then it's their business. Just because it's unorthodox to a lot doesn't mean it can't work for two consenting people.
    So the OP, needs to clarify if this part time arrangement is what she signed up for and if she has communicated to her male friend that she is no longer happy with it.

    I understand what you're saying but I deliberately omitted some of the details for privacy reasons. If you had the extra information, you might see it differently. But as you correctly pointed out, it's between them and maybe she is as happy as he is :) The reason I outlined the situation was to tell the OP that there are people out there who don't want a full blown relationship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Thanks for all your replies. For those who mentioned children, that isn't a factor in all of this.

    My emotions are all over the place today really. He visited me yesterday as I'd mentioned last week that I felt we needed to have a chat. So I said I've felt things are fizzling out a bit the last couple of weeks, that I found it tough especially during lockdown when he was reporting back to me what he was doing with this family when I was on my own for over 2 months. He said just because he spends a lot of time with them doesn't mean he's lost interest in me. Even though I've said this before when he was moving initially, I asked him to put himself in my shoes, how he'd feel if I moved to be closer to family, and he can see where I'm coming from. I've said they are his priority, the central part of his life now, our relationship I feel is only a small part. He said sure he's known one of them his whole life and that he's happy to see me whenever I want.

    Overall, he's not one for talking about his emotions. He's never told me he loves me, I don't know how unusual this is. I told him I loved him after about a year and he replied that he's not great at expressing how he feels, so I've never said it again.

    We do enjoy each other's company when together, I'm not necessarily pushing for the next step, but I actually feel now that they and him come as a unit. I remember when he told other family members and friends that he was moving initially, they asked him how I felt about it.

    This morning I feel that he feels he's reassured me that I am important to him and I should be feeling happier; however my gut is telling me that I'm not feeling on top of the world still.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,152 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hannibal_Smith


    How did you feel when he said he wasn't good at expressing his feelings after you told him you loved him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Emme


    This morning I feel that he feels he's reassured me that I am important to him and I should be feeling happier; however my gut is telling me that I'm not feeling on top of the world still.

    Listen to your gut and don't let him fob you off again. He'll keep fobbing you off because you've been happy to accept crumbs from him so far. If that's what you want fair enough, continue with him, but if your gut is telling you it's wrong you should listen to it.

    My advice is stop selling yourself short and don't let this man take you for a fool any longer. His priority is this family, not you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,457 ✭✭✭Tork


    This guy said a lot but it's what he didn't say that you need to pay attention to. He has never told you he loves you. He hasn't offered any solutions to this problem, apart from a wishy washy "You can see me any time you want". In other words, carry on as you were. You're still living where you are and you're still playing second fiddle to him and his family.

    Yet again, you're coming across as incredibly passive. Despite the noises you make about being independent and having your own place, you've put your life on standby for this man. You don't have a relationship that's going anywhere, you're with somebody who refuses to say he loves you and you're letting him call all the shots. Yet again, you (collectively) have demonstrated an inability to have a proper conversation on an emotional level. I'd say he's mostly glad he managed to bat away the proper conversation that needs to be had about this. You didn't have it and you know it.

    Your gut is screaming at you with this one. Isn't it time to listen to it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭Idle Passerby


    He couldn't even tell you he loves you OP. Its very sad to be wasting your time and affection on a man who sees you as a light distraction from the real focus in life. You've told him how you feel, positive and negative and his response to both is to shrug indifferently. You can do better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭cannotlogin


    You need to have the conversation you are avoiding, most likely because you know the answers you want aren't the answers you are going to get.

    Why aren't you living today?
    What future does he want for you both?
    Does he love you?

    Why are you letting him call all of the shots in your life? I think you might be better off single than in a part time relationship with someone who doesn't seem to care as much as you do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,281 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    Yea, op, it seems to me that when this started you were either happy to go along with this or else you hoped your OH would change.
    He however doesn't seem to want to change.
    Neither of you are wrong, you just now want different things.
    So you either need to have a very serious and honest conversation with him telling him exactly how you feel or else bite the bullet and let him go.
    Otherwise, this will go on for years to come.

    To thine own self be true



  • Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭redfox123


    If you were honest with yourself OP you would like a partner who builds a future with you and plans on moving in with you in that future. That’s not needy, it’s not asking too much it doesn’t mean you’re not independent, it basically means you hold some value on your own life and time, which is the basic you should have. You are not a pastime. You’re not a companion who is always available for when he has a spare few hours left.
    He has not even nearly hinted at any kind of future. I feel from your posts you believe if you give up on him it will have been 4 years wasted and it means you will be completely alone, and a small bit of spare time from this man is better than being alone all the time. But that’s not true because you are not happy with it, and it won’t change. you want someone to share you life with, no you don’t have to be together all the time but someone who has a desire to commit and make your lives together a priority. Not someone who makes you feel so unimportant.

    Why did you not bring up the question of you two living together? I think because you know deep down he does not want this. I would either just finish it with him or tell him how you really feel that after this long the relationship has no direction or purpose and the thought of things still being the same in ten years time deeply depresses you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,323 ✭✭✭happyday


    He's happy to see you whenever you want.

    Really? I'd be so insulted at this. Like you should be happy with that and what more do you want from him?

    What do you want OP? Would you like to be a couple in a committed relationship, living together and sharing your lives? Would you like to be loved? Would you like to be his number one priority? Would you like to get married?

    Or would you like to live apart but to see each other more often and do more things together?

    No one here has all the answers or even the full picture but I think you need to have a good chat with yourself first and see exactly what you want and where you would like this to go. And then see if what you have with him matches up to this.

    Then you will know what you need to do. Continue as you are or move on with your life without him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭Katgurl


    OP I would either leave this relationship completely or change status to 'someone you are seeing' while you shop around for a real partner (not sure how realistic the latter is given you've mentioned you love him.)

    You are wasting your time, bottom line. He is not committing to you, you should reciprocate similarly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Katgurl wrote: »
    OP I would either leave this relationship completely or change status to 'someone you are seeing' while you shop around for a real partner (not sure how realistic the latter is given you've mentioned you love him.)

    You are wasting your time, bottom line. He is not committing to you, you should reciprocate similarly.


    I think that sums it up really, "someone I am seeing", as it hasn't really progressed after all these years and due to our living circumstances now I can't see it happening either. Since I initiated the chat, things have returned to normal and he hasn't mentioned it since.

    I've just read this thread again and you've all given me food for thought. As I said already, besides this, everything is okay between us really but I find lately I'm becoming a little bit bored of just doing the same things - I'm feeling the relationship feels a little bit superficial, if that makes sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    OP here again. Re the family he moved closer to, recently he said to me he thinks and they think I don't like them because I haven't spent much time with them this year.

    For one, I haven't spent much time with anyone this year because of Covid. Secondly, we see less of each other now because of this move anyway, but I haven't gone out of my way to avoid them. He's asked me to visit them more regularly with him.

    I know I will never live in this house anyway because I'd absolutely no input into it, but this is another reason and it upset me when he said this about them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,323 ✭✭✭happyday


    Hi OP. It sounds like things haven't changed much. That wasn't nice to hear and it's hard to understand how they expected you to visit them in the last months. Do you like them? It's sounds like both they and your partner want things all their own way.


  • Administrators Posts: 14,385 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    Why are you still "with" him? Honest question. And think about the answer. What are you getting from the relationship? It seems everything is his way and every compromise is made by you.

    You know that you are entitled to be considered and a priority. You are entitled to say you are not happy with the situation and can't see how you will be happy with it. You are being held back in this pseudo-relationship and the longer you stay in it the longer you will be lonely.

    Do you want to live the rest of your life lonely?


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    happyday wrote: »
    Do you like them? It's sounds like both they and your partner want things all their own way.

    A different perspective.

    OP, he probably cares for you a lot, but its not likely love.

    Everybody in the relationship realises he is more fond of his family than you. Harsh, but there it is.

    From your last post you don't seem to reciprocate in travelling to meet him. Covid isn't an issue, because if you are close to him each week you are effectively exposed to his close family anyway.

    This man by what he has not said, and definitely by his actions has proven his family mean more. It was the case two years ago, and certainly now when your relationship has petered out to a once a week booty call.

    But, the two of ye are in this together. If the current arrangements are what he has to offer, expecting more IS unreasonable. Its for you to accept or not whats on offer.

    You accepting the current relationship or ending it are valid options, but so is what the man is doing. But, you only have control over your own actions.

    Good luck.


  • Administrators Posts: 14,385 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    Can I ask, have you ever actually voiced any of your feelings to him? Have you ever told him how you feel. In a way that he hears you and understands you?

    You just seem very very passive in all of this. And like you're still with him because "having a boyfriend" is better than being single. Even if you don't really "have" a boyfriend.

    Do you want a relationship? A proper adult relationship? If so then you need to talk to him. Openly and honestly. And come what may. It might mean changes to your relationship (although if changes are to happen it will be you doing the compromising!) or it might mean you break up and move on. You may or may not meet someone else, but could that be any worse than what you have now?

    Otherwise you'll be back here every few months wondering what's happening.

    The thing with his family is irrelevant. I wonder are they hinting at him that HE'S not seeing as much of you, rather than them? Or maybe they are as unaware as he is and think the world revolves around them. Either way, your issue is with him. Anything else is peripheral and not particularly relevant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,457 ✭✭✭Tork


    OP, you have two choices here. You can either stand on the sidelines of your life, wringing your hands, making the odd ineffective whimpering noise and letting this man run your life. Or you pull on your big girl pants and take control of your life for a change. Which one is it going to be?

    Your update changes nothing, only to add another item to your list of grievances. This is a list that has been mounting over time and you've been ignoring. Why? You don't have to give us the answer here but I hope you're being honest with yourself here. You sound like a woman with low self-esteem who is terrified of being single. Maybe you struggled throughout your life to meet anybody. Now that you're in your late 40s, you see this man as your only chance to avoid ending your days as an old lady with cats. Though the way this relationship is going, you'll probably end up with those cats anyway while he continues to live where he is. He has demonstrated repeatedly that you are not all that important to him. He probably enjoys your company in a part-time sort of way and that he has some regular sex when you come to visit. After that, you're out of sight, out of mind. It's quite sad that you value yourself so little.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,382 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    OP here again. Re the family he moved closer to, recently he said to me he thinks and they think I don't like them because I haven't spent much time with them this year.

    For one, I haven't spent much time with anyone this year because of Covid. Secondly, we see less of each other now because of this move anyway, but I haven't gone out of my way to avoid them. He's asked me to visit them more regularly with him.

    I know I will never live in this house anyway because I'd absolutely no input into it, but this is another reason and it upset me when he said this about them.

    Or, the family he's close to said 'What's the story with Mary, we haven't seen her in a long time, are you still seeing her?' and that has translated slightly differently when he told you.

    People haven't seen a lot of other people for nearly six months now. I've only seen my own mother once since Christmas because of covid.

    Anyway, why would they say something as odd as 'she mustn't like us when we haven't seen her in ages'. You said yourself you only see him once a week over the last two years, so they must have noticed before now that you weren't around as often. And he moved to be near them away from you. Regardless of their input into his situation they must have noticed that too.

    Chances are you came up in conversation for one reason or another and they asked what the story was and he gave them some bull**** answer. Actually he could have said, she doesn't really like visiting and prefers if I call to her, which implies that you are the one that doesn't want to call on him and by extension them.


    But to echo everyone else, what exactly are you getting out of this? It's nothing more than friends with benefits for him. If you continue, this time next year you will be in the exact same position. Is that what you want?

    There are questions that need to be asked and if they are ones you are reluctant to ask, it's often because you will get an answer you don't like and deep down you know this. Change is hard, but often it's for the better. You're not happy because this guy is not giving you what you want, that's not going to change.


  • Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭Jed and Dave


    Hi OP
    just a comment from personal experience, ive been here - you deserve to be a priority in your significant others life and plans, this is not going to do your self esteem any good in the long run. bit the bullet and meet someone who wants you to be at the centre of their universe.


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