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Small diesel SUV advice

  • 27-02-2021 3:49pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭


    Posting this on behalf of a friend. Looking to buy a small Diesel Suv to do around 25k a year. Budget is around 20k euros. Did a bit or research myself on this and it appears the Mazda Cx3 ticks alot of boxes. Folks on here might know better though. Thanx in advance:)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 517 ✭✭✭benji79


    Seat Arona or maybe the slightly bigger Ateca


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Is that 25k km or 25k miles per year? What sort of roads will it driven on? Small SUV crossovers are based on small city cars so the suspension and comfort won't be as good as a slight bigger car. For example something like a Qashqai would be a good bit more comfortable on long journeys over the smaller Juke, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Is that 25k km or 25k miles per year? What sort of roads will it driven on? Small SUV crossovers are based on small city cars so the suspension and comfort won't be as good as a slight bigger car. For example something like a Qashqai would be a good bit more comfortable on long journeys over the smaller Juke, etc.

    25km - will be travelling on the M50 plus trips to the West on rougher roads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,982 ✭✭✭User1998


    Probably no need to limit themselves to a diesel, anything over 25k I’d say go for diesel but at 25k I think either would suit. They would probably save a bit in fuel costs from a diesel but I’m guessing the resale value of the petrol would be higher in years to come


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 691 ✭✭✭richardsheil


    Mazda diesel engines are still very unreliable


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Mazda diesel engines are still very unreliable

    Really:( - what would be the most reliable diesel in this area??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭finalfurlong


    Birdnuts wrote: »
    Really:( - what would be the most reliable diesel in this area??
    Suzuki Vitara fairly rock solid in this segment.Getting a higher spec GL one would still undercut the more common ones vw/puegot bought in the segment.Mitsubishi ASX also very reliable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Vitara feels like it was designed over 10 years ago though especially the interior.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭finalfurlong


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Vitara feels like it was designed over 10 years ago though especially the interior.
    Yeah thats the trade off i suppose Bazz.Both it and mitsubishi seem to major on reliability than style.But if you wanted trouble free driving they do fit bill.List prices are well down on competitors though so it is well worth getting the higher spec to bring bit of improvement in equipment etc.Friend got a vitara sz t last year and is finding it a good overall package and when he was buying found that tiguan rav 4 etc were priced far higher.He intends to drive for long term in vitara and was not convinced the higher trade in value of the tiguan etc was as big a factor for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 808 ✭✭✭FrankC21


    Birdnuts wrote: »
    Really:( - what would be the most reliable diesel in this area??

    Renault's French turbocharged DCI engine, cheap to insure, cheap to run, €200 road tax. It so economical and reliable German Mercedes-Benz and Japan Nissan decided to use it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Nissan didn’t really have any say in what diesel engine they get to use :)
    Renault own 43% of Nissan.

    You are right about it being a good engine though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    FrankC21 wrote: »
    Renault's French turbocharged DCI engine, cheap to insure, cheap to run, €200 road tax. It so economical and reliable German Mercedes-Benz and Japan Nissan decided to use it.

    What models have that??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Any Merc fitted with a 1.5 litre or 1.6 litre diesel engine will be a Renault engine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,477 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Birdnuts wrote: »
    What models have that??

    A Class, B Class, CLA
    They badge them as 180d


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Thanx for the suggests folks - I know its getting harder and harder to source this type of vehicle with many companies stopping diesel engine production altogether. Just throwing it out there - are there hybrids/self chargers that could compete in this space too??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Toyota C-HR:

    https://www.carsireland.ie/2704578

    You will pay mad money for one though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Toyota C-HR:

    https://www.carsireland.ie/2704578

    You will pay mad money for one though.

    Does the Ford Puma Hybrid compete here??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    The Puma is a "mild" hybrid which is not the same as Toyota's hybrid system. You won't buy a Puma for 20k either, they only hit the market last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Any opinions folks on the Peogeot 2008 diesel?? - seems to get reasonable reviews online


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,289 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Is the new model within your budget? The new model only came out last year and the old one is very dated now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Is the new model within your budget? The new model only came out last year and the old one is very dated now.

    Just about


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