Baby On Board

_Dara_ · 25-01-2018 5:47pm

Jack Kanoff wrote: »

Women between the age of 17-45 who use the dart, train and commuter services quite a bit if the abuse of disability travel passes is anything to go by

Hope you carry those chips on each shoulder to balance you out. Spread the load.

Whispered · 25-01-2018 5:56pm

Public transport is one thing. I was genuinely taken aback at the fact heavily pregnant women were left standing in the coombe waiting room while men sat. Every 20 mins or so a nurse had to come out and announce that pregnant women had priority on the seats. Absolutely shameful to be honest.

Huntergonzo · 25-01-2018 5:58pm

_Dara_ wrote: »

Well sure, look. How many people do you think will go to the bother of getting one of those? The odd loser? Grand, I’ll take my chances.

Fair enough.

pgj2015 · 25-01-2018 6:00pm

GLaDOS wrote: »

I'll always, always give up my seat for someone who looks like they need it.

It's not always obvious though, so I think the badges are a good idea.

Really? people going around wearing badges like the ones we had for out 6th birthday.

https://www.google.ie/search?q=will+mckenzie+badge&rlz=1C1DSGQ_enIE519IE519&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi-pIi_y_PYAhXlCsAKHUu1AJoQ_AUICigB&biw=1366&bih=662#imgrc=4eeR3ZemzzAprM:

iamwhoiam · 25-01-2018 6:05pm

Whispered wrote: »

Public transport is one thing. I was genuinely taken aback at the fact heavily pregnant women were left standing in the coombe waiting room while men sat. Every 20 mins or so a nurse had to come out and announce that pregnant women had priority on the seats. Absolutely shameful to be honest.

I saw that happen too . Mainly a certain group of people which I will refrain from mentioning as I will be jumped on
I saw one tiny five foot nurse come out and shout at the men to have manners and get up off her womens chairs .I wanted to clap

Saruhashi · 25-01-2018 6:17pm

Mystery Egg wrote: »

I'm pregnant and I've got a badge. My husband got it for me because I've got extreme pain in my right hip due to multiple historic surgeries that the pregnancy has aggravated.

You'll all be delighted to learn that I've not once been offered a seat. At one stage en route to work I actually had to get off the luas to sit briefly to relieve the hip pressure and then get back on to another luas. I thought I was going to collapse. I'm sure if I did I'd be left to crawl home on my hands and knees as I deserve for the crime of having a child.

Pregnant women can't take medication for pain so it's not as manageable as usual.

Prior to getting pregnant myself I've always, always offered my seat to anyone that I thought might need it - elderly, pregnant or disabled. Thanks to the ridiculous attitudes visible in this thread that kind of practice is on the wane.

You'll all be old and sick one day.

Yes, and when I'm old and sick and I need a seat on the train or bus I will ask politely and if I get a "no" then I will ask the next person.

Instead of standing around wearing my pathetic little badge and hoping that someone will notice me.

You could have just said "excuse me, I'm struggling a bit here and I'm pregnant could I please take your seat". I reckon most people would be agreeable to that.

Depending on which door you use on the luas, and how busy it is there's a chance that you'd only even be spotted by a couple of people who are sitting in seats.

Most people I see on public transport have their attention on their phones or other distractions. What are you doing? Standing around waiting to be noticed?

Did you at least try to get attention? Do you sigh really loudly and talk to yourself saying "just me and my badge here, standing around all day, punished for the crime of having a child"? :pac:

If you ever asked me for my seat I'd gladly oblige. No problem whatsoever.

Otherwise, I'll be looking at my phone or reading my book, trying to avoid eye contact with the other passengers.

There's no point standing around hoping to be noticed and then giving out because nobody gave you a seat. You want a seat? Ask politely.

"Oh no but I might get a rude answer". Well, if proabbly less than 1% chance of a rude answer is enough to make you choose to endure extreme pain then that's on you too.

Huntergonzo · 25-01-2018 6:20pm

Skylar Massive Serf wrote: »

A Baby on Board sticker gets you nothing but the possibility of someone standing up and offering you their seat if the bus or train is full. Why on earth would any reasonably normal person go to the bother of faking a sticker for that vague possibility.
If they do, they obviously have problems or issues so shur let them have the seat.

Look some people are shameless and would try anything just for the hell of it, they are out there.

Anyway personally I tend not to read badges or pins or anything of that sort, I'm far more likely to notice that a woman is pregnant rather than a badge she's wearing to tell me that she is pregnant.

Mystery Egg · 25-01-2018 6:27pm

Saruhashi wrote: »

Yes, and when I'm old and sick and I need a seat on the train or bus I will ask politely and if I get a "no" then I will ask the next person.

Instead of standing around wearing my pathetic little badge and hoping that someone will notice me.

You could have just said "excuse me, I'm struggling a bit here and I'm pregnant could I please take your seat". I reckon most people would be agreeable to that.

Depending on which door you use on the luas, and how busy it is there's a chance that you'd only even be spotted by a couple of people who are sitting in seats.

Most people I see on public transport have their attention on their phones or other distractions. What are you doing? Standing around waiting to be noticed?

Did you at least try to get attention? Do you sigh really loudly and talk to yourself saying "just me and my badge here, standing around all day, punished for the crime of having a child"? :pac:

If you ever asked me for my seat I'd gladly oblige. No problem whatsoever.

Otherwise, I'll be looking at my phone or reading my book, trying to avoid eye contact with the other passengers.

There's no point standing around hoping to be noticed and then giving out because nobody gave you a seat. You want a seat? Ask politely.

"Oh no but I might get a rude answer". Well, if proabbly less than 1% chance of a rude answer is enough to make you choose to endure extreme pain then that's on you too.

Hey I'll do wtf I like ta. You've got issues :pac:

Saruhashi · 25-01-2018 6:28pm

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Sadly they don’t feel shame. They can’t relate to anyone but themselves but that goes for a lot of people. I’m convinced it’s the way they were dragged up.

But on the other side you've got people who don't want to take responsibility for themselves.

You can look at folks and call them shameless and say they haven't been raised properly but it's far more likely that they just haven't noticed.

If I'm sitting in the little group of 4 on the LUAS facing backward should my head be on a swivel at every stop making sure that nobody standing behind me needs a seat?

If folks want a seat then they should take some responsibility and ask for a seat instead of expecting the whole world to keep an eye out for them coming on to public transport so we can all offer out seat in unison.

If you're in that much pain or if you're really struggling then ask for help. Instead of assuming that everyone around you is a terrible person who doesn't care or want to help. Probably they never even noticed you exist.

Saruhashi · 25-01-2018 6:29pm

Mystery Egg wrote: »

Hey I'll do wtf I like ta. You've got issues :pac:

Everyone's got issues.

Maybe I should get a badge...

Jack Kanoff · 25-01-2018 6:33pm

_Dara_ wrote: »

Hope you carry those chips on each shoulder to balance you out. Spread the load.

Thank you for your concern, much appreciated.

Mystery Egg · 25-01-2018 6:33pm

Love too be mansplained on tinternet

People with no experience of pregnancy or disability saying righteously what they'd do, instead of just having a bit of care for your fellow man. It's genuinely funny watching people bend over backwards to defend being d1ckheads

jooksavage · 25-01-2018 6:35pm

Jesus what a f***ed up thread. My wife was pregnant last year. We're both rather shy, retiring types so initially we didn't say anything when people (yes, women too) would cheerfully ignore the pregnant girl standing beside them on tube. But after a while, especially as the bump went from big to huge, we started getting more and more annoyed... initially we'd politely ask for a seat. It got more and more infuriating - I could see people avoiding eye contact, deliberately going out of their way to pretend they couldn't see my poor, encumbered wife. Towards the end of the pregnancy, we'd instinctively pick the person who had made the most obvious attempt to ignore her and she'd tell them bluntly "I need this seat."

I think the badge is a good idea. It might work for people who genuinely haven't noticed the pregnant lady in their carriage or for those who aren't 100% sure if their kind offer won't be rebuffed (it never will!). It probably won't make any difference to the alarming number of complete sh**heads we encountered though.

eviltwin · 25-01-2018 6:37pm

Saruhashi wrote: »

But on the other side you've got people who don't want to take responsibility for themselves.

You can look at folks and call them shameless and say they haven't been raised properly but it's far more likely that they just haven't noticed.

If I'm sitting in the little group of 4 on the LUAS facing backward should my head be on a swivel at every stop making sure that nobody standing behind me needs a seat?

If folks want a seat then they should take some responsibility and ask for a seat instead of expecting the whole world to keep an eye out for them coming on to public transport so we can all offer out seat in unison.

If you're in that much pain or if you're really struggling then ask for help. Instead of assuming that everyone around you is a terrible person who doesn't care or want to help. Probably they never even noticed you exist.

I'd always have asked but it shouldn't have to reach the point where someone obviously pregnant, disabled or elderly has to ask. It's basic manners to let someone struggling have a seat. Can't really see the issue there.

kylith · 25-01-2018 6:42pm

Saruhashi wrote: »

Yes, and when I'm old and sick and I need a seat on the train or bus I will ask politely and if I get a "no" then I will ask the next person.

Instead of standing around wearing my pathetic little badge and hoping that someone will notice me.

You could have just said "excuse me, I'm struggling a bit here and I'm pregnant could I please take your seat". I reckon most people would be agreeable to that.

Depending on which door you use on the luas, and how busy it is there's a chance that you'd only even be spotted by a couple of people who are sitting in seats.

Most people I see on public transport have their attention on their phones or other distractions. What are you doing? Standing around waiting to be noticed?

Did you at least try to get attention? Do you sigh really loudly and talk to yourself saying "just me and my badge here, standing around all day, punished for the crime of having a child"? :pac:

If you ever asked me for my seat I'd gladly oblige. No problem whatsoever.

Otherwise, I'll be looking at my phone or reading my book, trying to avoid eye contact with the other passengers.

There's no point standing around hoping to be noticed and then giving out because nobody gave you a seat. You want a seat? Ask politely.

"Oh no but I might get a rude answer". Well, if proabbly less than 1% chance of a rude answer is enough to make you choose to endure extreme pain then that's on you too.

And you're damn right.

Many moons ago I went to the Czech Republic. While on the bus an elderly woman walked up and started reefing me out of it in Czech. I dont' speak a word of the language, but the meaning was clear 'Get up out of that chair, you young pup, have some common decency'.

Ever since then I have, when I have had need to, asked for a seat if there are none. I will hobble up to someone and say clearly, 'Excuse me. I'm on crutches at the moment, could I have that seat please?'

Funnily enough I see plenty of 'well bred' young people pretending they don't see elderly, infirm, or heavily pregnant people on public transport, but junkie-scrote-looking types will practically force someone they think needs it to take their seat.

Bitches Be Trypsin · 25-01-2018 6:43pm

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Sadly they don’t feel shame. They can’t relate to anyone but themselves but that goes for a lot of people. I’m convinced it’s the way they were dragged up.

I'm sorry but I find this really rude and offensive towards the younger generation. Not everyone was brought up poorly and is selfish.

pgj2015 · 25-01-2018 6:43pm

jooksavage wrote: »

Jesus what a f***ed up thread. My wife was pregnant last year. We're both rather shy, retiring types so initially we didn't say anything when people (yes, women too) would cheerfully ignore the pregnant girl standing beside them on tube. But after a while, especially as the bump went from big to huge, we started getting more and more annoyed... initially we'd politely ask for a seat. It got more and more infuriating - I could see people avoiding eye contact, deliberately going out of their way to pretend they couldn't see my poor, encumbered wife. Towards the end of the pregnancy, we'd instinctively pick the person who had made the most obvious attempt to ignore her and she'd tell them bluntly "I need this seat."

I think the badge is a good idea. It might work for people who genuinely haven't noticed the pregnant lady in their carriage or for those who aren't 100% sure if their kind offer won't be rebuffed (it never will!). It probably won't make any difference to the alarming number of complete sh**heads we encountered though.

if you bluntly asked me for my seat you wouldn't get it, just because you decided to have a child does not give you the right to force people to give up their seat, what if you bluntly told someone with a hidden disability you wanted their seat? someone with two prosthetic feet perhaps.

Huntergonzo · 25-01-2018 6:46pm

eviltwin wrote: »

I'd always have asked but it shouldn't have to reach the point where someone obviously pregnant, disabled or elderly has to ask. It's basic manners to let someone struggling have a seat. Can't really see the issue there.

Absolutely right, people in those circumstances certainly shouldn't have to ask. But if there is a problem which isn't visible then I think people should ask, I know some are more shy than others but as they say, a shy priest never got a parish. Just ask, and if you get a rude answer just from someone then forget they ever existed and ask the next person.

But badges, nope, I'm not in favour.

kylith · 25-01-2018 6:48pm

pgj2015 wrote: »

if you bluntly asked me for my seat you wouldn't get it, just because you decided to have a child does not give you the right to force people to give up their seat, what if you bluntly told someone with a hidden disability you wanted their seat? someone with two prosthetic feet perhaps.

Then that person could say 'I'm terribly sorry, I have a disability and need to sit', then the pregnant person can ask someone else if no-one has volunteered.

Not everyone decides to have a child. Sometimes it just happens; see other threads in this forum for further discussion. Nevertheless, pregnancy causes all sorts of issues, complications, and stresses (easy dislocations, anyone?) and what you are saying is 'I don't give a toss if you're in physical pain as long as my fat ass gets a nice comfy seat'. You sound like the type of person who would let a door slam in someone's face.

eviltwin · 25-01-2018 6:49pm

pgj2015 wrote: »

if you bluntly asked me for my seat you wouldn't get it, just because you decided to have a child does not give you the right to force people to give up their seat, what if you bluntly told someone with a hidden disability you wanted their seat? someone with two prosthetic feet perhaps.

There is no force involved, you're perfectly entitled to say no but if the request has been made politely and the person is struggling why would you say no?

pgj2015 · 25-01-2018 6:56pm

kylith wrote: »

Then that person could say 'I'm terribly sorry, I have a disability and need to sit', then the pregnant person can ask someone else if no-one has volunteered.

Not everyone decides to have a child. Sometimes it just happens; see other threads in this forum for further discussion. Nevertheless, pregnancy causes all sorts of issues, complications, and stresses (easy dislocations, anyone?) and what you are saying is 'I don't give a toss if you're in physical pain as long as my fat ass gets a nice comfy seat'. You sound like the type of person who would let a door slam in someone's face.

You would think being pregnant was a terminal illness or something, like standing for 5 minutes is going to kill them, as someone said earlier pregnant women in africa walk miles with jugs of water on their heads and another baby hanging off them in extreme heat.

if i saw a pregnant woman or elderly person were in need of a seat, I would gladly give them it but if im asked bluntly no chance on principle. some people are in their own world on a train or bus, nothing wrong with that if that makes them happy.

_Dara_ · 25-01-2018 7:01pm

pgj2015 wrote: »

if i saw a pregnant woman or elderly person were in need of a seat, I would gladly give them it but if im asked bluntly no chance on principle.

If someone with a hidden disability bluntly asked you, same story? What are you classing as blunt also?

Fighting Tao · 25-01-2018 7:01pm

Saruhashi wrote: »

But on the other side you've got people who don't want to take responsibility for themselves.

You can look at folks and call them shameless and say they haven't been raised properly but it's far more likely that they just haven't noticed.

If I'm sitting in the little group of 4 on the LUAS facing backward should my head be on a swivel at every stop making sure that nobody standing behind me needs a seat?

If folks want a seat then they should take some responsibility and ask for a seat instead of expecting the whole world to keep an eye out for them coming on to public transport so we can all offer out seat in unison.

If you're in that much pain or if you're really struggling then ask for help. Instead of assuming that everyone around you is a terrible person who doesn't care or want to help. Probably they never even noticed you exist.

I didn’t realise that I had to narrow it so much to ensure that it was obvious that people the other end of the dart/luas/whatever out of view shouldnt have to check the whole carriage to see who needs a seat.

the_pen_turner · 25-01-2018 7:04pm

I would be the first at to offer my seat if I thought someone needed
But if someone said it to me it would a firm no. Just on principle

pgj2015 · 25-01-2018 7:05pm

_Dara_ wrote: »

If someone with a hidden disability bluntly asked you, same story? What are you classing as blunt also?

obviously, no one likes being told what to do, it gets you no where to be rude to someone while asking for something from that person.

Fighting Tao · 25-01-2018 7:05pm

Bitches Be Trypsin wrote: »

I'm sorry but I find this really rude and offensive towards the younger generation. Not everyone was brought up poorly and is selfish.

I meant to say "that goes for a lot of people of all ages". However, please don't let me stop you being offended. Sure that's the point of the internet it appears. Offended people everywhere as a result of what strangers say on it.

_Dara_ · 25-01-2018 7:08pm

pgj2015 wrote: »

obviously, no one likes being told what to do, it gets you no where to be rude to someone while asking for something from that person.

Ah grand. Just people asking rudely then. Fair enough. A pregnant woman asking politely would be okay, I'm sure?

colm_mcm · 25-01-2018 7:09pm

_Dara_ wrote: »

No, they wont. You’ll have to prove that you’re pregnant.

Will there be an expiry date on them?

Mystery Egg · 25-01-2018 7:10pm

Okay. So a significant portion say "if you need a seat fukc you, I want my seat I'm entitled blah blah".

Then there's the "if you want a seat ask for one" crowd who interpret a badge notifying you of pregnancy or disability as passive aggression.

And finally there's the "I'll gladly give you a seat but NOT if you ask" crowd.

Moral of the story seems to be don't be sick, old, disabled or pregnant basically. Cool cool

_Dara_ · 25-01-2018 7:11pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Will there be an expiry date on them?

I'm not sure. I mean, it's a badge. Anyone who wears one whilst not pregnant - what a fucking loser.

pgj2015 · 25-01-2018 7:12pm

Mystery Egg wrote: »

Okay. So a significant portion say "if you need a seat fukc you, I want my seat I'm entitled blah blah".

Then there's the "if you want a seat ask for one" crowd who interpret a badge notifying you of pregnancy or disability as passive aggression.

And finally there's the "I'll gladly give you a seat but NOT if you ask" crowd.

Moral of the story seems to be don't be sick, old, disabled or pregnant basically. Cool cool

moral of the story is also don't be rude and self entitled if you want a seat.

splinter65 · 25-01-2018 7:14pm

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Do women want equality or not? Why should a man,in this day and age,get up to give a (non pregnant, non older) lady his seat?

I’m a woman and this is what some other women seem to want:
They want to be treated like childlike severely intellectually restricted creatures in social aspects (if I go out to a bar or a nightclub I don’t need to take any personal responsibility for protecting my own safety by not becoming totally incapacitated by drink or drugs).
In employment aspects they want to be rewarded for work the same as their male colleagues irregardless of experience ability or sometimes even qualifications , so not equality actually, they want to have an advantage based on gender.
Sexism in fact.

kylith · 25-01-2018 7:15pm

_Dara_ wrote: »

Ah grand. Just people asking rudely then. Fair enough. A pregnant woman asking politely would be okay, I'm sure?

I think we're getting bogged down in the 'pregnant' issue.

What about people on crutches? Can they get stuffed because it was their own recklessness that got them injured?? Old people can take a hike cos they should have toped themselves before they got so frail they couldn't stand for a long time? Maybe disabled people just shouldn't leave the house?

kylith · 25-01-2018 7:15pm

pgj2015 wrote: »

moral of the story is also don't be rude and self entitled if you want a seat.

So if they ask nicely that's ok and you'll give them your seat?

pgj2015 · 25-01-2018 7:16pm

kylith wrote: »

So if they ask nicely that's ok and you'll give them your seat?

100%

Mystery Egg · 25-01-2018 7:22pm

pgj2015 wrote: »

moral of the story is also don't be rude and self entitled if you want a seat.

I've never in my life been rude to someone on public transport. I've experienced rudeness many times though.

ceadaoin. · 25-01-2018 7:23pm

splinter65 wrote: »

I’m a woman and this is what some other women seem to want:
They want to be treated like childlike severely intellectually restricted creatures in social aspects (if I go out to a bar or a nightclub I don’t need to take any personal responsibility for protecting my own safety by not becoming totally incapacitated by drink or drugs).
In employment aspects they want to be rewarded for work the same as their male colleagues irregardless of experience ability or sometimes even qualifications , so not equality actually, they want to have an advantage based on gender.
Sexism in fact.

Get a grip ffs. A heavily pregnant woman preferring to sit down because she might feel dizzy or in pain (SPD, look it up) is not asking to be treated like a special snowflake. It's common human decency and courtesy, and how people should aim to treat others, regardless of their sex. Same for elderly, disabled or injured people. Somehow it's only pregnant women who bear the brunt of moaning though. Wonder why that is?

Going by this thread, some people have such a chip on their shoulder about women that the thoughts of them even getting a seat on a bus or train over someone else leaves them seething. It's pathetic and a sad indictment of society. I mean, it's a seat on public transport. If that's all you have to get worked up about, well done, you must not have many serious worries in your life.

pgj2015 · 25-01-2018 7:23pm

Mystery Egg wrote: »

I've never in my life been rude to someone on public transport. I've experienced rudeness many times though.

I didn't say you were rude to someone on public transport, someone earlier said he bluntly told people on trains he wanted their seat for his pregnant wife.

25-01-2018 7:26pm

the_pen_turner wrote: »

I would be the first at to offer my seat if I thought someone needed
But if someone said it to me it would a firm no. Just on principle

You're so cool

Bitches Be Trypsin · 25-01-2018 7:26pm

Fighting Tao wrote: »

I meant to say "that goes for a lot of people of all ages". However, please don't let me stop you being offended. Sure that's the point of the internet it appears. Offended people everywhere as a result of what strangers say on it.

People are generally offended when posters are as rude and offensive as you come across.

splinter65 · 25-01-2018 7:28pm

If anything sums up the pathetic state of modern feminism it is this sad little badge which you must wear if you want someone to let you sit on public transport if you are pregnant.
Because now that we’ve insisted that we want to be treated no different to men, and men have been beaten into submission and are taking our concerns on board (hurrah) we find that we actually do want to be treated differently.
And instead of just accepting that there were going to be some drawbacks in this brave new world, some women are going to ask for special treatment by wearing a badge like a small child at a birthday party.
It’s an absolute joke.

_Dara_ · 25-01-2018 7:29pm

kylith wrote: »

I think we're getting bogged down in the 'pregnant' issue.

What about people on crutches? Can they get stuffed because it was their own recklessness that got them injured?? Old people can take a hike cos they should have toped themselves before they got so frail they couldn't stand for a long time? Maybe disabled people just shouldn't leave the house?

People seem to be taking exception to pregnant women above all those other categories though.

kylith · 25-01-2018 7:32pm

_Dara_ wrote: »

People seem to be taking exception to pregnant women above all those other categories though.

As said upthread, I wonder why that is...

_Dara_ · 25-01-2018 7:34pm

the_pen_turner wrote: »

I would be the first at to offer my seat if I thought someone needed
But if someone said it to me it would a firm no. Just on principle

If someone approaches you and politely explains their disability, you would refuse them the seat? If yes, what is your reasoning? What principle are you abiding by in refusing a seat to someone who needs it and politely asks you for yours?

ceadaoin. · 25-01-2018 7:36pm

splinter65 wrote: »

If anything sums up the pathetic state of modern feminism it is this sad little badge which you must wear if you want someone to let you sit on public transport if you are pregnant.
Because now that we’ve insisted that we want to be treated no different to men, and men have been beaten into submission and are taking our concerns on board (hurrah) we find that we actually do want to be treated differently.
And instead of just accepting that there were going to be some drawbacks in this brave new world, some women are going to ask for special treatment by wearing a badge like a small child at a birthday party.
It’s an absolute joke.

Until males have the capability to become pregnant then in this situation the sexes can never be treated "equally". Do you really need that explaining to you?

If you get angry about pregnant women being offered a seat, but not disabled people then you might want to examine why that is

splinter65 · 25-01-2018 7:37pm

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Get a grip ffs. A heavily pregnant woman preferring to sit down because she might feel dizzy or in pain (SPD, look it up) is not asking to be treated like a special snowflake. It's common human decency and courtesy, and how people should aim to treat others, regardless of their sex. Same for elderly, disabled or injured people. Somehow it's only pregnant women who bear the brunt of moaning though. Wonder why that is?

Going by this thread, some people have such a chip on their shoulder about women that the thoughts of them even getting a seat on a bus or train over someone else leaves them seething. It's pathetic and a sad indictment of society. I mean, it's a seat on public transport. If that's all you have to get worked up about, well done, you must not have many serious worries in your life.

Old people are not wearing a badge that says “over 65” disabled people are not wearing a badge saying “disabled”
Can you really not see that repeating “we don’t want special treatment we only want equal rights! Stick your chivalry where the sun don’t shine I can hold the door open for myself!” Quickly followed by “ im pregnant and even though you can’t become pregnant I need special treatment and you must accommodate me” is just ridiculous ?

25-01-2018 7:38pm

splinter65 wrote: »

Old people are not wearing a badge that says “over 65” disabled people are not wearing a badge saying “disabled”
Can you really not see that repeating “we don’t want special treatment we only want equal rights! Stick your chivalry where the sun don’t shine I can hold the door open for myself!” Quickly followed by “ im pregnant and even though you can’t become pregnant I need special treatment and you must accommodate me” is just ridiculous ?

Nobody is saying that except in your head

kylith · 25-01-2018 7:39pm

splinter65 wrote: »

Old people are not wearing a badge that says “over 65” disabled people are not wearing a badge saying “disabled”
Can you really not see that repeating “we don’t want special treatment we only want equal rights! Stick your chivalry where the sun don’t shine I can hold the door open for myself!” Quickly followed by “ im pregnant and even though you can’t become pregnant I need special treatment and you must accommodate me” is just ridiculous ?

How about: I'm pregnant and I'm in a lot of pain because hormones are causing the bones in my pelvis to separate, can I have your seat please?

the_pen_turner · 25-01-2018 7:44pm

_Dara_ wrote: »

the_pen_turner wrote: »

I would be the first at to offer my seat if I thought someone needed
But if someone said it to me it would a firm no. Just on principle

If someone approaches you and politely explains their disability, you would refuse them the seat? If yes, what is your reasoning? What principle are you abiding by in refusing a seat to someone who needs it and politely asks you for yours?

That was supposed to be a reply to the post where the poster says they singled out someone and grilled them into moving.
If someone politely had a quite word then I would obviously.

currants · 25-01-2018 7:45pm

splinter65 wrote: »

If anything sums up the pathetic state of modern feminism it is this sad little badge which you must wear if you want someone to let you sit on public transport if you are pregnant.
Because now that we’ve insisted that we want to be treated no different to men, and men have been beaten into submission and are taking our concerns on board (hurrah) we find that we actually do want to be treated differently.
And instead of just accepting that there were going to be some drawbacks in this brave new world, some women are going to ask for special treatment by wearing a badge like a small child at a birthday party.
It’s an absolute joke.

Whhoosh-thats the sound of "modern feminism" going over your head.
Its about equality and women supporting women. Not women being treated the same as men and beating men into submission- are you sure you're a woman?
If you are and are/were able to be pregnant, maintain perfect balance and not suffer any painful side effects from 28lbs of extra baby and fluid then good for you. Not everyone else is as lucky so I'd offer them a seat if I was able to.
People on public transport are a mix of selfish twats and generous souls, some are happy to watch pregnant women and elderly folk who are unsteady on their pins stand. some are decent folk who offer up their seat.

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