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Royal Enfield

  • 21-09-2019 10:40pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3


    Thinking of getting one.

    Anyone got one?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    New model or an older one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,513 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    OP is banned so don't hold your breath! :)

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭zubair


    Lol, must have been a bold boy on an old acc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭WestWicklow1


    I have a 2019 Himalayan......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭Breezin


    Thinking of getting one.

    Anyone got one?

    2019 Interceptor 650.

    What's this banned business? Not very RE


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  • Registered Users Posts: 244 ✭✭Pythagorean


    I have a 2005 Bullet 500, 4 speed kickstart model, basically a 1950s bike with some concessions to modernity (indicators, etc). Surprisingly nice to ride, good handling, great 1950s British big single experience. :) Stay away from motorways, though. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭Breezin


    Thinking of getting one.

    Anyone got one?

    Which one are you thinking of?


  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭Nabidana


    Breezin wrote: »
    2019 Interceptor 650.

    Hey breezin,

    How do you find the interceptor?

    NBD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭Breezin


    Nabidana wrote: »
    Hey breezin,

    How do you find the interceptor?

    NBD.

    Hi Nabidana. The Interceptor 650 is a joy to ride, pure and simple. One of the most common comments made is that it just puts a smile on your face :p

    Most of the reviews are 95% positive, and the recent MCN face-off with the Triumph Street Twin, which the RE won, was an out and rave. All reviewers report some niggles, but they are minor -- and they would do that anyway.

    I have 1,100 miles up now, and haven't been able to ride as much as I would like, but I can't get enough of it. I've had Japanese in-line fours in the past, and my last bike was a Bullet, but the Interceptor is in a different league.

    Not the fastest, but I didn't buy it for speed. (I won't bore you with the ongoing cost in insurance premiums of my three penalty points incurred for speeding in a car years ago.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    With rumor of a 650cc Himalayan doing the rounds I wouldn't touch a new Himalayan just yet, and looking at the specs on the RE range in Bikeworld they're last years stock (new stock at rear disc brakes and other little mods).

    I fancy the 500 Classic if I wanted a little play thing for weekend spins.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,790 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    With rumor of a 650cc Himalayan doing the rounds I wouldn't touch a new Himalayan just yet, and looking at the specs on the RE range in Bikeworld they're last years stock (new stock at rear disc brakes and other little mods).

    I fancy the 500 Classic if I wanted a little play thing for weekend spins.

    tbh, on a bike of that performance a drum on the rear is fine. better feel too.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,105 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    galwaytt wrote: »
    tbh, on a bike of that performance a drum on the rear is fine. better feel too.

    Crap for maintenance tbh. I wouldnt recommend one over disks. No thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,790 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    listermint wrote: »
    Crap for maintenance tbh. I wouldnt recommend one over disks. No thanks.

    potato/potatoe (no H-D joke intended), but rear calipers are the most often ignored anyway.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭WestWicklow1


    With rumor of a 650cc Himalayan doing the rounds I wouldn't touch a new Himalayan just yet, and looking at the specs on the RE range in Bikeworld they're last years stock (new stock at rear disc brakes and other little mods).

    I fancy the 500 Classic if I wanted a little play thing for weekend spins.

    Bought my Himalayan in July from Bikeworld and it has a rear disc. I don't think any Himalayan had rear drum.

    Keep waiting for the new model and you'll never ride.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,513 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    listermint wrote: »
    Crap for maintenance tbh. I wouldnt recommend one over disks. No thanks.

    Rear disc brakes are a pita for seizing up on a lot of bikes. Drums you just have to turn an adjuster every once in a while. Slightly more awkward for getting the rear wheel off.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,105 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Rear disc brakes are a pita for seizing up on a lot of bikes. Drums you just have to turn an adjuster every once in a while. Slightly more awkward for getting the rear wheel off.

    Rusty springs and offset pads.

    No thanks . There's a reason it's cheap technology and it's not for simplicity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,105 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    galwaytt wrote: »
    potato/potatoe (no H-D joke intended), but rear calipers are the most often ignored anyway.

    They shouldn't be if one wants to master slow control.

    Key feature for slalom. Turning circle amongst other things like riding in the wet. Stay away from the fronts unless necessary


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    galwaytt wrote: »
    tbh, on a bike of that performance a drum on the rear is fine. better feel too.

    I get what you're saying, and I never use a rear brake unless like my GS its linked. But if I'm going to buy a new bike (or anything else for that matter) I want the current model.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,790 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    I get what you're saying, and I never use a rear brake unless like my GS its linked. But if I'm going to buy a new bike (or anything else for that matter) I want the current model.

    I hear ya, but this is a Royal Enfield we're talking about......

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,790 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    listermint wrote: »
    They shouldn't be if one wants to master slow control.

    Key feature for slalom. Turning circle amongst other things like riding in the wet. Stay away from the fronts unless necessary

    You're comment, I get :) :



    ...but what I meant was that from a maintenance perspective that they're one of the most ignored....on a bike full dress tourer esp so, not such an issue on more open architecture bikes where at least you can actually see the thing

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭mattser


    galwaytt wrote: »
    I hear ya, but this is a Royal Enfield we're talking about......

    What do you mean ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    Disc wears out you swop it, pretty straight forard, not so a drum lining.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    mattser wrote: »
    What do you mean ?

    The new Royal Enfield is still a 60 year old design.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭Breezin


    listermint wrote: »
    Rusty springs and offset pads.

    No thanks . There's a reason it's cheap technology and it's not for simplicity.

    Had a Bullet for years, and other than the very occasional turn on the adjuster never had to pay attention to the rear brake. It just worked.

    (But this is academic, as it's been pointed out the the Himalayan has a rear disc, as has the Interceptor.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,513 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    H_Lime wrote: »
    Disc wears out you swop it, pretty straight forard, not so a drum lining.

    The only time I ever wore out a rear disc was because the caliper seized!

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    The only time I ever wore out a rear disc was because the caliper seized!

    Not the disc faults that you allow brakes seize:D

    I have two rear wheels with drum linings worn. So what does that involve
    ...pull wheel, remove trye and tube, cut and remove spokes, buy new hub, buy new spokes/nipples, have respoked, buy new bearings, install new bearings, re shod tube n tyre and pull asunder again in 1000 miles to retrue and then yer sorted. Time and money there my man!

    Versus

    Pull caliper, remove wheel, remove disc, fit new disc, fit caliper, reinstate wheel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,513 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Shouldn't have let the shoes score the drum :p

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    Shouldn't have let the shoes score the drum :p

    They didn't, they wore the drum linings down;)

    Dont get me wrong, my fav bike has a drum rear whos performance is sweet, but I accept its a bigger pain than an hydraulic dics braked model when the linings are shot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,513 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The lining is the friction material attached to the shoes.

    Scrap the cap!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    The lining is the friction material attached to the shoes.

    For sh1ts n giggles, jap bike with drum rear from '88. Cheapest oem supplier being Megazip prices in $
    Hub; 246.47 Shoes; 53.14 Spoke set: 119.56 Bearings; 33
    100 to have wheel built and say 35 euro dismount/mount and balance tyre = €535. Even if you use spurious pads and bearings your over 500 squid:cool:

    Same bike from '89 went disc rear.
    Ebc disc and pads 79 gbp.

    The reason why I have all this info to hand and bother having an opinion about it???

    20191023-190629.jpg
    My 88 dr. Drum is worn as the eagle eyed might spot (shoes are new)

    20191023-190612.jpg
    My 89 dr and its disc is worn.
    Ones a half hour fix and the others a pain the left bollix and a big dent in the wallet;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭Breezin


    Anyway... the oul' Enfield is great altogether, discs and all! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,790 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    H_Lime wrote: »
    They didn't, they wore the drum linings down;)

    Dont get me wrong, my fav bike has a drum rear whos performance is sweet, but I accept its a bigger pain than an hydraulic dics braked model when the linings are shot.

    You're not incorrect: but insofar as a person who should maintain a caliper to keep it not-sticking...........they shouldn't let a drum braked bike down to that level either, no ?

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,513 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    You need to include the cost of the caliper rebuild H :)

    A thorough clean might do the job for a while, but if it needs new pistons and seals that's far from cheap.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    galwaytt wrote: »
    You're not incorrect: but insofar as a person who should maintain a caliper to keep it not-sticking...........they shouldn't let a drum braked bike down to that level either, no ?
    Bought with it like that my friend, the refurb is ongoing and i might add never ending;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,105 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    You need to include the cost of the caliper rebuild H :)

    A thorough clean might do the job for a while, but if it needs new pistons and seals that's far from cheap.

    About twenty euro. I think that's fairly cheap...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    "You need to include the cost of the caliper rebuild H

    A thorough clean might do the job for a while, but if it needs new pistons and seals that's far from cheap."

    Lol i dont because my whole point is the cost difference relating to changing a worn drum vs a worn disc.
    But ok as you ask, genuine seals and pistons set 92 dollars which is 71gbp plus the pads and disc at 79gbp, a grand total of 150 gbp which is 173 euro versus....535 euro for the drum;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,513 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Fair enough!

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,513 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    listermint wrote: »
    About twenty euro. I think that's fairly cheap...

    Love to know where you can get proper seals for 20 euro, never mind pistons.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,105 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Love to know where you can get proper seals for 20 euro, never mind pistons.

    Anywhere

    I've rebuilt my front and rear calipers.

    The front ones two years ago. The rears this year.

    https://m.ebay.ie/itm/151799600790?ViewItem=&item=151799600790

    Here's a rear set the same ones I used.

    My brakes are perfect now.

    I don't get why people think a set of seals needs to cost an arm and a leg......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭WestWicklow1


    What's the title of this thread? Is it...

    Royal Enfield
    or
    Drum brake
    or
    Cost of seals


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,513 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Ok mod :rolleyes:

    PS 20 quid per piston just for no-name seals is not cheap, pistons themselves wear out and are expensive.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭Breezin


    Ok mod :rolleyes:


    Ah here. There's enough friction in this thread already! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,105 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Ok mod :rolleyes:

    PS 20 quid per piston just for no-name seals is not cheap, pistons themselves wear out and are expensive.

    Yesterday it was where can you get such seals. Had a feeling you'd come back with some no name nonsense.

    Anyway I've had enough of the jibe. I provided you with an example that's in my bike with no issues over a year. Have you rebuilt any brakes yourself? So far I've done this and two Volvo calipers in the last 3 months


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,105 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    I dropped into Bikeworld on Thursday after I passed my test that Interceptor in Orange is a very tidy looking bike.

    It's dying for a trade in. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭IrishGrimReaper


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    I dropped into Bikeworld on Thursday after I passed my test that Interceptor in Orange is a very tidy looking bike.
    And so it begins... :pac:

    Buy it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭Breezin


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    I dropped into Bikeworld on Thursday after I passed my test that Interceptor in Orange Candy Crush is a very tidy looking bike.


    I can't disagree. Take a test ride and you'll really feel the love.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    I dropped into Bikeworld on Thursday after I passed my test that Interceptor in Orange is a very tidy looking bike.

    Every time I'm in there I look at the whole RE range, they're all lovely bikes. But I'm way too big for any of them, at a stretch the Himalayan might fit me but I get off a 1200 GS in the mornings and ride a 650 Versy's work bike and even that feels small and under powered.

    I was in BW on Thursday too. Because they give a generous discount to the emergency, frontline and security service's BW are always my first port of call.


  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭Nabidana


    Breezin wrote: »
    Hi Nabidana. The Interceptor 650 is a joy to ride, pure and simple. One of the most common comments made is that it just puts a smile on your face :p

    Most of the reviews are 95% positive, and the recent MCN face-off with the Triumph Street Twin, which the RE won, was an out and rave. All reviewers report some niggles, but they are minor -- and they would do that anyway.

    I have 1,100 miles up now, and haven't been able to ride as much as I would like, but I can't get enough of it. I've had Japanese in-line fours in the past, and my last bike was a Bullet, but the Interceptor is in a different league.

    Not the fastest, but I didn't buy it for speed. (I won't bore you with the ongoing cost in insurance premiums of my three penalty points incurred for speeding in a car years ago.)

    Cheers Breezin.

    Will be purchasing a new bike in the new year and have narrowed it down to three.


    RE Interceptor 650
    Triumph Bonneville
    H-D Iron 883 (Dare I say, I've considered a Street 750 too)

    Have a budget of about 8.5K.

    Thoughts folks?

    Thanks
    NBD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,790 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Nabidana wrote: »
    Cheers Breezin.

    Will be purchasing a new bike in the new year and have narrowed it down to three.


    RE Interceptor 650
    Triumph Bonneville
    H-D Iron 883 (Dare I say, I've considered a Street 750 too)

    Have a budget of about 8.5K.

    Thoughts folks?

    Thanks
    NBD.

    You need to ride them.

    You could love the Triumph.....and find the seat height too high. You could ride the 883 and love the bike....but find it not punchy enough. The Interceptor could well be perfect. A neighbour bought a span new Street 750 a few months ago and I think it's a nice bike. No idea what it's like to ride, though.

    Either way, don't buy anything without sitting on them and at least making vroom-vroom noises :D

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    galwaytt wrote: »
    Either way, don't buy anything without sitting on them and at least making vroom-vroom noises :D

    This is important, and try your best get a test ride.

    I've only bought one bike without a test ride, and regretted it within the first 30 minutes of buying.

    I bought a beautiful Kawasaki Z1000 with my heart and couldn't wait to take delivery of it. By the time I'd rode it from Bikeworld to the Phoenix Park I knew I was going to sell it.

    I think in the end I had it for 3 months, I loved it to look at but hated riding it.


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