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Giro D'Italia 2019 - General Thread

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  • #52
    [Deleted User]
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    MPFGLB wrote: »
    Sean Kellys grandson

    His first grandson I wonder ?...definitely a cyclist I'd say

    Not a chance with that DNA :P


  • #53
    sy
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Not a chance with that DNA :P

    Hmm, thinking of a certain cyclocross star's family genetics ;)


  • #54
    Daroxtar
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    DNA isn't everything. Jim Corr......


  • #55
    Tim76
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    Open field for this one with no Froome there and INEOS racing with no individual dedicated leader. Simon Yates is back for another crack at it after last years blow up. Past winner Vincenzo NIabbli & Tom Dumoulin will be on the start line



    ODDS from Betfair


    I,ll try stick up some daily stage previews but if any one else wants to do a few I wont complain.[/QUOTE]

    Got Lopez at 12/1 with PP


  • #56
    CramCycle
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    For those with Satellite or are close enough to the East Coast, S4C are showing the Giro, in the same way TG4 used to show it, so you can get the visuals if wanted.


  • #57
    Torres09
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    MPFGLB wrote: »
    I agree ...too British orientated

    And also Oral Chennaoui's voice is irritating

    I would love to see an Italian rep in the studio and/or a winner like Andy Hampstead or Ryder Hesjedal or Ivan Basso someone with a different view

    Jaysus she's the female version of Colin Murray who covered the snooker, another irritating presenter..in the same studio aswell!!!!!


  • #58
    dastardly00
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    I came across this comprehensive preview and ranking of the climbs in the Giro. It's a good read.

    https://www.podiumcafe.com/2019/5/9/18535816/the-2019-giro-ditalia-mountains-preview


  • #59
    neris
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    Was talk on the cyclingpodcast last night that they might have to pull the Gavia climb on stage 16 and change it to 2 climbs of the Mortirolo due to snow. Apparently the snow banks by the road are high and the organisers are afraid they might collapse.


  • #60
    terrydel
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    neris wrote: »
    Was talk on the cyclingpodcast last night that they might have to pull the Gavia climb on stage 16 and change it to 2 climbs of the Mortirolo due to snow. Apparently the snow banks by the road are high and the organisers are afraid they might collapse.

    Who cares if the organisers collapse :pac:


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  • #61
    neris
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    From cyclingnews.com
    The passage over the Gavia has been a concern for some time and the Giro d’Italia’s race director Mauro Vegni said that a plan B had been made for the eventuality that the Gavia is not accessible. He did not divulge what that route entailed but said that the previously reported double ascent of the Mortirolo was not a possibility.

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/authorities-working-to-clear-gavia-of-snow-ahead-of-giro-ditalia-queen-stage/


  • #62
    dastardly00
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    I wonder why the double accent of the Mortirolo is not a runner


  • #63
    Finnrocco
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    dastardly00 wrote: »
    I wonder why the double accent of the Mortirolo is not a runner

    Some lads might be lapped


  • #64
    Steve SilverMint
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    Not much interest in todays stage, pan flat boring cycling. At least once today is out of the way the next few stages look really good.


  • #65
    Finnrocco
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    I actually don't really like the high mountain stages.

    Usually nothing really happens until the last few kms.

    I know you have long range breaks but typically one strong team just rides and gets rid of everyone bar the 4 or 5 strongest team leaders, most lads are hanging on and trying to protect their GC place.

    Maybe its for the better in general that no one is capable of doing 200 kms jaunts across 4 big mountains and winning by 7 minutes.


  • #66
    Lumen
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    Finnrocco wrote: »
    I actually don't really like the high mountain stages.

    Usually nothing really happens until the last few kms.

    I know you have long range breaks but typically one strong team just rides and gets rid of everyone bar the 4 or 5 strongest team leaders, most lads are hanging on and trying to protect their GC place.

    Maybe its for the better in general that no one is capable of doing 200 kms jaunts across 4 big mountains and winning by 7 minutes.

    Yeah, but Team Idiots aren't anywhere near the GC lead and the other contenders have to break Roglič.

    I hope the brief pre-Giro Nibbles-Yates Twitter spat doesn't get in the way of them tag-teaming Roglič. Maybe there will be a mass pile-on from the assembled ranks of young riders with nothing to lose.


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  • #67
    lissard
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    dastardly00 wrote: »
    I wonder why the double accent of the Mortirolo is not a runner

    Apparently it would make a long ridiculously tough stage even longer.


  • #68
    velo.2010
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    Not looking good for Slovenian cycling. All stemming from that Austrian/German Operation Aderlass. Initially, it was thought the impact on pro cycling would be limited to the Austrian cyclists that were busted, but this news points to a larger doping ring... potentially!
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bahrain-meridas-milan-erzen-under-uci-investigation-for-doping-links/


  • #69
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    velo.2010 wrote: »
    Not looking good for Slovenian cycling. All stemming from that Austrian/German Operation Aderlass. Initially, it was thought the impact on pro cycling would be limited to the Austrian cyclists that were busted, but this news points to a larger doping ring... potentially!
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bahrain-meridas-milan-erzen-under-uci-investigation-for-doping-links/



    Not good for Bahrain, they already have a DS and rider suspended as part of this.


  • #70
    odyssey06
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    Conor Dunne's tour diary... sounds like the hotel from hell.
    https://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/cycling/conor-dunnes-giro-ditalia-diary-of-the-fiveandahalf-hour-stage-fourandahalf-of-that-was-a-cafe-ride-38139529.html

    With mould on the walls, holes in the bedclothes and a severe lack of toilet paper, our post-apocalyptic overnight dormitory was the kind of place you'd have second thoughts sheltering in if it was the only building standing in a storm. Thankfully, there was no restaurant and we had to go next door for dinner...

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #71
    Daroxtar
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    I know it sounds like a bit of a tired cliche but I'd say you'd enjoy going for a few pints with Conor


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  • #72
    neris
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    Gavias out for Tuesday and new route
    The Passo Gavia has been removed from Tuesday’s queen stage of the Giro d'Italia to Ponte di Legno, with race director Mauro Vegni confirming that the risk of further snow, avalanches and ice-covered roads made it too risky to cover the highest climb of this year's race

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/giro-ditalia-passo-gavia-removed-due-to-avalanche-threat/


  • #73
    retalivity
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    Where are the stage threads for yday or today? Or were there any??


  • #74
    gordongekko
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    retalivity wrote: »
    Where are the stage threads for yday or today? Or were there any??

    Here's yesterday's. https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057983172

    Feel free to set up today's


  • #75
    dastardly00
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    gordongekko wrote: »
    Here's yesterday's. https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057983172

    Feel free to set up today's

    That was Fridays stage


  • #76
    retalivity
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  • #77
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  • #78
    CramCycle
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    Spoilers, no matter how minor in the relevant stage threads.


  • #79
    Finnrocco
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    Finnrocco wrote: »
    I actually don't really like the high mountain stages.

    Usually nothing really happens until the last few kms.

    I know you have long range breaks but typically one strong team just rides and gets rid of everyone bar the 4 or 5 strongest team leaders, most lads are hanging on and trying to protect their GC place.

    Maybe its for the better in general that no one is capable of doing 200 kms jaunts across 4 big mountains and winning by 7 minutes.

    I actually love the high mountain stages, loads of things happen from the first kms.

    Guess when there's no team controlling the race you get more lads giving it a go.........


  • #80
    neris
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    5


  • #81
    velo.2010
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    D7isQnnU8AEeUue.jpg:large
    The Night's Watch choose a new form of transport to defend the Wall!


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  • #82
    Tim76
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    velo.2010 wrote: »
    D7isQnnU8AEeUue.jpg:large
    The Night's Watch choose a new form of transport to defend the Wall!

    :D


  • #83
    [Deleted User]
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    Brilliant Velo !!!! :D


  • #84
    cunavalos
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    https://video.eurosport.nl/wielrennen/giro-d-italia/2019/de-fietswissel-van-roglic-beelden-van-binnen-de-ploegwagen-na-de-plaspauze_vid1201929/video.shtml

    In car footage from the Jumbo Visma car after they stopped for a nature break and then got word of Roglic mechanical. Also shows the sticky bottle that earned Roglic a 200CHF fine


  • #85
    dastardly00
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    cunavalos wrote: »
    https://video.eurosport.nl/wielrennen/giro-d-italia/2019/de-fietswissel-van-roglic-beelden-van-binnen-de-ploegwagen-na-de-plaspauze_vid1201929/video.shtml

    In car footage from the Jumbo Visma car after they stopped for a nature break and then got word of Roglic mechanical. Also shows the sticky bottle that earned Roglic a 200CHF fine


    I think he should have got a time penalty... 20 seconds maybe.
    I'm actually surprised he didn't, considering it's Italy and they ideally want Nibbles to win.


  • #86
    Raam
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    dastardly00 wrote: »
    I think he should have got a time penalty... 20 seconds maybe.
    I'm actually surprised he didn't, considering it's Italy and they ideally want Nibbles to win.

    UCI comms make the decision not the race organisers. Gotta hope that they can make decisions independent of the country that they are in. That said, when I saw it, I was expecting a time penalty.


  • #87
    [Deleted User]
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    They had it easy in 2014 vs 2019

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1ABVyCvHH4


  • #88
    nafisjedriel
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    I think it'll be Nibali, Yates, Roglic top 3 at the end but not necessarily in the that order.


  • #89
    terrydel
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    nafisjedriel wrote: »
    I think it'll be Nibali, Yates, Roglic top 3 at the end but not necessarily in the that order.

    Cant stand Yates, smug, arrogant, annoying Brit, the type you meet on ski holidays who loves to tell you how good they are.

    First Grand Tour I've watched a bit of in years, its actually been enjoyable, probably mainly due to Sky/whatever they are called now being a non factor in it.


  • #90
    Raam
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    terrydel wrote: »
    Cant stand Yates, smug, arrogant, annoying Brit, the type you meet on ski holidays who loves to tell you how good they are.

    First Grand Tour I've watched a bit of in years, its actually been enjoyable, probably mainly due to Sky/whatever they are called now being a non factor in it.


    Christ, what did I just read?


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  • #91
    EC1000
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    terrydel wrote: »
    ...meet on ski holidays ....

    You mean the type of people that like to tell you that they go on ski holidays?


  • #92
    Daroxtar
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    terrydel wrote: »
    Cant stand Yates, smug, arrogant, annoying Brit, the type you meet on ski holidays who loves to tell you how good they are.

    First Grand Tour I've watched a bit of in years, its actually been enjoyable, probably mainly due to Sky/whatever they are called now being a non factor in it.

    Ah, I think you're being a bit harsh on him. I think he was on the wind up at the start and it backfired. I don't mind a little bit of banter. I thought Nibali was funny inviting Roglic around to look at his trophies.
    Up til Yates fell apart within touching distance of the finish in the Giro last year he came across as one of the most humble, honest guys in the peleton. He was almost too nice. When he went for the Vuelta he put up a far tougher front and held his nerve to claim the win so I'd say he was just trying the same here. Tom Dumolin did almost the same after his mugging at the Vuelta and came back much more cynical.
    Amateur psychologist in me thinks he was the skinny lad who punched way above his weight and pulled the local stunner only to have his heart broken when she left him on his prom night to go off with the local jock. That's the kind of thing that'll change your outlook.


  • #93
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    Just thinking it's been a shocking bad Giro for Dimension Data. Have they even been in a break???


  • #94
    neris
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Just thinking it's been a shocking bad Giro for Dimension Data. Have they even been in a break???

    Listening to the cycling podcast from yesterday and one caller mentioned how bad they were. You'd nearly forget they were in the race or even existed


  • #95
    irishrover99
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    Any chance we can just have another Giro in July instead of the Golly Gosh, G Wizz crap that i'm expecting to see and hear.
    Brilliant race and excellent stage again today and that's been with Yates been out of form and Tommy D out after stage 2.


  • #96
    irishrover99
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    Conor Dunne must have been suffering like a dog

    https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/giro-ditalia/mortirolo-descent-cold-giro-ditalia-riders-poured-hot-tea-try-warm-425237


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  • #97
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    I think they mentioned him either today or Sunday and not being easy having to 90kg over the stage.


  • #98
    coco0981
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    Just caught the highlights of today's stage. The conditions on the Mortirolo looked fairly brutal. It's hard to see Roglic not losing more time over the next few days, although tomorrow's stage isn't that bad. Maybe he can recover in time for Friday and Saturdays stages. He'd need to take the most of a minute back off Carapaz before the TT, can't see it happening


  • #99
    neris
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    Rumours going around last 2 days that Carapaz is off to the Man City of cycling next year. Going to be a very crowded GT roster when theres only 3 GTs and 5 or 6 GT leaders


  • #100
    Finnrocco
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    Lots of stuff going round about a flotillas of motorbikes ahead of Nibali group, was surprised how the Roglic group made no inroads on them.


  • #101
    Finnrocco
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    Dunbar is going well, 22nd overall.

    You would wonder what he should do - sit up, lose 40 minutes and have an easy day with the sprinters then go up road next day, try win stage?

    Or should he keep riding with the front group as long as he can, and stay up in the Top 25 ?


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