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Where is the #HomeToVote crew this year?

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  • 22-05-2019 12:21pm
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    PhilOssophy
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    There must be no likes to be had this time around....


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    King of Kings
    Registered Users Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭King of Kings


    PhilOssophy wrote: »
    There must be no likes to be had this time around....

    They only care for certain agendas.


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    kowloon
    Registered Users Posts: 13,316 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    They came home, they're still at home.


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    #4
    [Deleted User]
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    Maybe they were aborted ?


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    [Deleted User]
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    lol aw diddums


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    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users Posts: 5,752 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    I'd guess they are not giving a sh*t wherever they may be. Like the rest of us.


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    ganmo
    Registered Users Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    divorcees can't afford plane tickets


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    Captain Flaps
    Registered Users Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭Captain Flaps


    Divorce affects a much smaller set of people, and it's just the terms around divorce that are changing. If it was being allowed for the first time it would be much different. It's disingenuous to compare the two but I think you know that.


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    Cryptopagan
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    A referendum to amend the rules surrounding divorce is welcome and necessary, but hardly earth-shattering stuff, hence why it’s not getting attention from international news media like the gay marriage and repeal votes, and it’s certainly not going to inspire a home to vote campaign. Ireland’s big divorce referendum was back in the mid 90s.


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    meeeeh
    Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    They have to scrape the barrel to find someone to oppose the referendum (cue David Quinn), it feels more as a bit administration than proper referendum. Why is divorce in constitution anyway?


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    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    King of Kings wrote: »
    They only care for certain agendas.

    Different groups of people prioritise different political issues according to their ideological beliefs? STOP THE PRESSES!!!


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    PhilOssophy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭PhilOssophy


    meeeeh wrote: »
    Why is divorce in constitution anyway?

    Because marriage is in there.


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    Realt Dearg Sec
    Registered Users Posts: 10,829 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    King of Kings wrote: »
    PhilOssophy wrote: »
    There must be no likes to be had this time around....

    They only care for certain agendas.
    Unlike you, who obviously cares about all issues to an exactly equal degree.


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    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    There's no emotive agenda on this one.
    As usual turnout will plummet.

    No interest in the running of the country, only in the latest "must have"


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    Floppybits
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    No likey, no votey


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    Loafing Oaf
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    meeeeh wrote: »
    Why is divorce in constitution anyway?

    You'd need to read up on what the country was like when the constitution was drawn up in 1937.


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    King of Kings
    Registered Users Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭King of Kings


    Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »
    Unlike you, who obviously cares about all issues to an exactly equal degree.

    I was going to say no you are wrong. But on mature reflection (what a phrase!! Thank BL senior); i value my vote so i show up to them all . So emotionally i dont value all issues equally but maybe in practice I do. You may have a point.


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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    PhilOssophy wrote: »
    There must be no likes to be had this time around....

    I didn’t personally agree with the #hometovote campaign. Only those who fully fulfil the requirements should vote and had the result been close, the high visibility of the campaign could have sparked serious challenges. And then because the margin was large, it made no difference. So either way, it didn’t make sense.

    But I kinda love it now for the bitterness some people appear to carry around for it. As above.


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    Realt Dearg Sec
    Registered Users Posts: 10,829 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    King of Kings wrote: »
    I was going to say no you are wrong. But on mature reflection (what a phrase!! Thank BL senior); i value my vote so i show up to them all . So emotionally i dont value all issues equally but maybe in practice I do. You may have a point.

    But try considering it from the perspective of someone whose circumstances aren't the exact same as yours. Say, if you lived abroad, maybe you would have to make decisions about which issues you are going to prioritise in terms of making the journey home to vote? I mean, you would hardly vote in them all if you lived thousands of miles away and had limited money, right?


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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    Cryptopagan wrote: »
    A referendum to amend the rules surrounding divorce is welcome and necessary, but hardly earth-shattering stuff, hence why it’s not getting attention from international news media like the gay marriage and repeal votes, and it’s certainly not going to inspire a home to vote campaign. Ireland’s big divorce referendum was back in the mid 90s.

    And that WAS bitter. Moreso than the 8th Ref last year. And it barely passed too. I was shocked reading about it recently. Only 9000 votes, I think. Dublin and a handful of other constituencies dragged it over the line. I believe in one of the ‘Yes’ constituencies, the winning margin was only 44 votes. :eek:


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    harry Bailey esq
    Registered Users Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    Probably all off having abortions.


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    Realt Dearg Sec
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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    And that WAS bitter. Moreso than the 8th Ref last year. And it barely passed too. I was shocked reading about it recently. Only 9000 votes, I think. Dublin and a handful of other constituencies dragged it over the line. I believe in one of the ‘Yes’ constituencies, the winning margin was only 44 votes. :eek:

    Another referendum where we were told repeatedly by our moral superiors that it would undermine the very bedrock of Irish society. Yet here we are, somehow soldiering on, the social fabric somehow still intact.


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    King of Kings
    Registered Users Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭King of Kings


    Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »
    But try considering it from the perspective of someone whose circumstances aren't the exact same as yours. Say, if you lived abroad, maybe you would have to make decisions about which issues you are going to prioritise in terms of making the journey home to vote? I mean, you would hardly vote in them all if you lived thousands of miles away and had limited money, right?

    Maybe i wouldnt vote at all.

    Many of those #hometovote would have been voting illegally.
    Still on the register but living aboard.
    Dept of foreign affairs says one must ordinarily be resident on 1st sept preceding year. Probably fair to say most of those #hometovote werent.


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    Realt Dearg Sec
    Registered Users Posts: 10,829 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    King of Kings wrote: »
    Maybe i wouldnt vote at all.

    Many of those #hometovote would have been voting illegally.
    Still on the register but living aboard.
    Dept of foreign affairs says one must ordinarily be resident on 1st sept preceding year. Probably fair to say most of those #hometovote werent.

    I've no idea, but that's probably a reasonable assertion to be fair.


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    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 19,998 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    PhilOssophy wrote: »
    There must be no likes to be had this time around....

    Chortle Chortle Chortle. Another thinly veiled "young people/the left are stupid" thread.

    There should be a mega thread for this guff.


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    #26
    Fan of Netflix
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭Fan of Netflix


    It doesn't look as good on instagram or twitter flying home to vote for some inbred Fine Gael or Fianna Fail councillor. The #hometovote brigade have much pressing issues such as taking a selfie in the mirror. A bunch of vain narcissists that jumped jumped ship abroad and left the rest of us to fester in this cesspit.


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    Berserker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    meeeeh wrote: »
    Why is divorce in constitution anyway?

    Everything is in the constitution here for some reason. Reckon a right to a home will be the next big referendum. They'll be launching their GoFundMe campaigns to cover the cost of their travel home for that one. That referendum will be a hoot and a half.


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    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 19,998 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Fan of Netflix wrote: »
    It doesn't look as good on instagram or twitter flying home to vote for some inbred Fine Gael or Fianna Fail councillor. The #hometovote brigade have much pressing issues such as taking a selfie in the mirror. A bunch of vain narcissists that jumped jumped ship abroad and left the rest of us to fester in this cesspit.

    Christ that's an angry post.

    Maybe the divorce referendum hasn't had the same coverage as the recent high profile referenda. Maybe it Isn't as important to anyone as the other referenda.

    I'd bet the farm that overall turnout will be well below the gay marriage and abortion across all demographics

    The old people will be out in force to vote as they usually do. But this time there isnt the same clear young/old divide in how they will vote.


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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »
    Another referendum where we were told repeatedly by our moral superiors that it would undermine the very bedrock of Irish society. Yet here we are, somehow soldiering on, the social fabric somehow still intact.

    Very true. Though I would never favour quickie divorce coming in. That truly would devalue the whole thing. But two years is long enough to wait!


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    IamtheWalrus
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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Very true. Though I would never favour quickie divorce coming in. That truly would devalue the whole thing. But two years is long enough to wait!

    Isn't it a case of letting the 2 individuals make their own choice without the state deciding?


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    recedite
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    meeeeh wrote: »
    Why is divorce in constitution anyway?
    I like to think of the constitution as a locked chest, and the politicians have to come to us if they want the key.
    Sure we can open it up, take out the divorce framework rules and hand them over. Then they can mess around with those rules all they like.
    But they have to ask first.
    If we really value something, we keep it in the Constitution.


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