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Some Wrestling News & Rumours 2019 Thread ***NO CHAT***

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    horrible news seems to have been a very nice person from what i can see going up on twitter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 779 ✭✭✭bot43


    TimesArrow wrote: »
    jeez thats tragic. think she went out with matt hardy for a while. i remember her being incredibly hot when i was a young lad

    Matts wife twtted a smiling and blow a kiss emoji not long after the story broke. She is getting it in the neck since.

    Whether its in relation to Ashley who knows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭savemejebus


    MrMac84 wrote: »
    Jesus! What drugs was she into? Roids seems the obvious one. Hadn’t heard of the prostitution ones

    Not sure which drugs but the prostitution stories first surfaced as part of this article https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/the-sex-queen-of-l-a-230295/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    bot43 wrote: »
    Matts wife twtted a smiling and blow a kiss emoji not long after the story broke. She is getting it in the neck since.

    Whether its in relation to Ashley who knows.

    Anything I've ever seen or read from her makes me think she is just the worst type of social media attention seeker so I wouldn't put it past her. A total clown.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    J. Marston wrote:
    Anything I've ever seen or read from her makes me think she is just the worst type of social media attention seeker so I wouldn't put it past her. A total clown.

    She is a 24 karat cúnt, simply put


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    ERG89 wrote: »
    She is a 24 karat cúnt, simply put

    Yeah, nasty bit of work.

    Trailer trash with money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,363 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Anything I've ever seen or read from her makes me think she is just the worst type of social media attention seeker so I wouldn't put it past her. A total clown.

    Is that reby hardy ? I saw the table for 3 with her, angle and orton's wife's and she came across loud and abrasive. Orton has lucked out there btw.


    Anyway very very sad news about Ashley Massaro dying. 39 is no age to be dying at. It said tragic death which could be taken several ways but I won't speculate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    I find Reby Sky refreshing to be honest. She may be a **** but at least she wears that on her sleeve amongst a sea of fake media trained airheads.

    RIP Ashley. Maria Kanellis put up a very touching tweet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,894 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Very sad 39 years of age is so young and leaves behind a 19 year old daughter.

    RIP.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Impact being Impact, they never signed Progress Women's Champion, Jordynne Grace to a deal, but she's been a free agent there the whole time.

    https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/report-jordynne-grace-never-signed-impact-wrestling-company-scrambling-sign-her


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    WWE should sign her up. She's got a unique look, built like a female Rhyno. That's meant in the most complimentary way! She's jacked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    And apparently Scarlett Bordeaux has requested her release too


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    J. Marston wrote: »
    WWE should sign her up. She's got a unique look, built like a female Rhyno. That's meant in the most complimentary way! She's jacked.
    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    And apparently Scarlett Bordeaux has requested her release too

    Anyone being released or wanting to be released from their contracts with X company will probably now be weighing up their options knowing the professional wrestling landscape is changing and that WWE isn't the be all, and end all it once was.

    Like Bob Dylan said and titled his 3rd album, the times they are a-changin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    And apparently Scarlett Bordeaux has requested her release too

    Scarlett should take care with her next move. Wasn't so long ago they fed her to the botchmaster


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,867 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    And apparently Scarlett Bordeaux has requested her release too

    Has she been in your dungeon for long?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    Impact being Impact, they never signed Progress Women's Champion, Jordynne Grace to a deal, but she's been a free agent there the whole time.

    https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/report-jordynne-grace-never-signed-impact-wrestling-company-scrambling-sign-her

    She's officially signed with them now.

    https://twitter.com/JordynneGrace/status/1130220783551287299


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    Scarlett should take care with her next move. Wasn't so long ago they fed her to the botchmaster

    Her boyfriend (Killer Kross) asked for his release recently. Like a few there he has more suitors now than when he last signed a contract.
    Above any company Impact can't afford to lose the names they have. She is quite popular for them online for obvious (men stop scrolling when they see her) reasons


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,363 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Ashley Massaro appears to have died from suicide. That's utterly tragic if true.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Ashley Massaro appears to have died from suicide. That's utterly tragic if true.

    Some more details are coming to surface.

    Specifically this Twitter link and thread which contains a link to Massaro's affidavit when she sued WWE.

    https://twitter.com/ChrisBrosnahan/status/1129794890492198912

    Might warrant a thread of it's own.


  • Registered Users Posts: 773 ✭✭✭TimesArrow


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    Some more details are coming to surface.

    Specifically this Twitter link and thread which contains a link to Massaro's affidavit when she sued WWE.

    https://twitter.com/ChrisBrosnahan/status/1129794890492198912

    Might warrant a thread of it's own.

    Sweet Jesus.. I don’t know what to say to that.. another example in be long list of Vince and the company being rotten to the core..


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  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    TimesArrow wrote: »
    Sweet Jesus.. I don’t know what to say to that.. another example in be long list of Vince and the company being rotten to the core..

    It's a shocking read to be honest. This is one rotten example from reading the affidavit.
    Vince did at least apologize for what I went through, but then stressed that if I disclosed this incident it would ruin the relationship between the WWE and the US Military.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,483 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    Every day I've less and less an interest in this horrible company , how Vince has avoided any sort of comeuppance for all the shady stuff this company has done or has gone through I'll never know but that story is some pretty damning and grim reading , Poor girl


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,363 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Jesus h Christ that affidavit she gave is hard to read. If that had happened in today’s climate they wouldn’t have hushed it up. Also **** wwe and the us military’s connection. It’s the same with the NFL and the US military and that faux patriotism that’s become more prevalent in recent years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,441 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Hopefully this will get out in the public now and got more media attention. WWE won't be able to avoid backlash from this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    TimesArrow wrote: »
    Sweet Jesus.. I don’t know what to say to that.. another example in be long list of Vince and the company being rotten to the core..

    I'm genuinely thinking of writing a book at this stage. Long, shady history with this company. Its really turning me off the whole thing


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,164 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    That's absolutely disgraceful. Hopefully Vince finally gets dragged into the open about this. What a scumbag. It's also another death knell in my interest in pro wrestling tbh :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    sadly its not just pro wrestling with these stories especially if the military are involved horrific stuff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 502 ✭✭✭sirmanga


    A horrible read. Although, it would be interesting to see if Maria and others would corroborate the story. Right now, all we have is the word of a dead woman. And she later reached out to WWE to apologise. I wouldn't be so quick to call out WWE on this just yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    sirmanga wrote: »
    A horrible read. Although, it would be interesting to see if Maria and others would corroborate the story. Right now, all we have is the word of a dead woman. And she later reached out to WWE to apologise. I wouldn't be so quick to call out WWE on this just yet.

    This should absolutely be called out, if it were any other company it'd be called out, why should the WWE be excluded and when you've the owner actively encouraging her not to report the what happened to her cause military & patriotism, to hell with it.

    Maybe she apologized out of regret for being dragged into said lawsuit. Also if you believe this, WWE only found out about the affidavit after she had passed. Which I find very difficult to believe.

    https://www.ringsidenews.com/2019/05/17/ashley-massaro-apologized-to-wwe-prior-to-her-death/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 502 ✭✭✭sirmanga


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    This should absolutely be called out, if it were any other company it'd be called out, why should the WWE be excluded and when you've the owner actively encouraging her not to report the what happened to her cause military & patriotism, to hell with it.

    Maybe she apologized out of regret for being dragged into said lawsuit. Also if you believe this, WWE only found out about the affidavit after she had passed. Which I find very difficult to believe.

    https://www.ringsidenews.com/2019/05/17/ashley-massaro-apologized-to-wwe-prior-to-her-death/

    What I mean is, if it turns out the story is indeed true, WWE should be called out, but not until then.

    Right now, all we have is the affidavit from a dead women. And it relates to a court case that WWE won.

    It's dangerous to simply take a story at face value, even as horrific as Ashley's.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    This should absolutely be called out, if it were any other company it'd be called out, why should the WWE be excluded and when you've the owner actively encouraging her not to report the what happened to her cause military & patriotism, to hell with it.

    Maybe she apologized out of regret for being dragged into said lawsuit. Also if you believe this, WWE only found out about the affidavit after she had passed. Which I find very difficult to believe.

    https://www.ringsidenews.com/2019/05/17/ashley-massaro-apologized-to-wwe-prior-to-her-death/

    It should absolutely be called out and hopefully the same scrutiny is put on the WWE that smaller companies faced over similar issues.

    Then again Vince and co have previous, even in just recent memory, of brass necking their way through controversy when it suits them. Jimmy Snuka and the Saudi shows just two examples of same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    Why are people arguing with the guy who says "it should be called out IF TRUE"? Are people actually arguing "I don't care if it's true, I don't like WWE anyway so I'm willing to accept it at face value..." Would you hold a company or person you like to the same kind of scrutiny? That's a horrible attitude to have tbh: "I don't like you for my own reasons therefore I'm willing to accept anything anyone says about you to validate that, no matter how horrific that is, I don't need proof."

    This was in court. It's the word of someone who reportedly had serious addiction issues. Addicts are known for having a difficult relationship with the truth. She names witnesses, some of whom aren't involved with WWE now, who can come out and confirm it. WWE won that court case and she sent an apology to them afterwards. So it's gone through the courts and WWE's innocence has been proven.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭weareallmarks


    This was exactly what I was going to write but wasnt interested in taking the barrage of abuse that would go with it.

    Everyone should find court documents, timelines and interviews of the people involved before jumping to conclusions. I understand that it would be the only excercise alot of you get, but maybe searching for truth instead of jumping on the first thing might be a good idea.


    leggo wrote: »
    Why are people arguing with the guy who says "it should be called out IF TRUE"? Are people actually arguing "I don't care if it's true, I don't like WWE anyway so I'm willing to accept it at face value..." Would you hold a company or person you like to the same kind of scrutiny? That's a horrible attitude to have tbh: "I don't like you for my own reasons therefore I'm willing to accept anything anyone says about you to validate that, no matter how horrific that is, I don't need proof."

    This was in court. It's the word of someone who reportedly had serious addiction issues. Addicts are known for having a difficult relationship with the truth. She names witnesses, some of whom aren't involved with WWE now, who can come out and confirm it. WWE won that court case and she sent an apology to them afterwards. So it's gone through the courts and WWE's innocence has been proven.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 502 ✭✭✭sirmanga


    leggo wrote: »
    Why are people arguing with the guy who says "it should be called out IF TRUE"? Are people actually arguing "I don't care if it's true, I don't like WWE anyway so I'm willing to accept it at face value..." Would you hold a company or person you like to the same kind of scrutiny? That's a horrible attitude to have tbh: "I don't like you for my own reasons therefore I'm willing to accept anything anyone says about you to validate that, no matter how horrific that is, I don't need proof."

    This was in court. It's the word of someone who reportedly had serious addiction issues. Addicts are known for having a difficult relationship with the truth. She names witnesses, some of whom aren't involved with WWE now, who can come out and confirm it. WWE won that court case and she sent an apology to them afterwards. So it's gone through the courts and WWE's innocence has been proven.

    Exactly. There is a lot to criticise WWE for, such as grabbing money from the blood soaked hands of the Saudis.
    But an unverified story of a brutal assault from over a decade ago, that has no supporting evidence, and an affidavit from a now deceased woman who later apologised to the company she was suing? No, you simply can't use this as another example of WWE's callousness. Unless more evidence comes to light, this is nothing more than an allegation without evidence.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    May have been a bit hasty in jumping with what I posted, emotionally jumped the gun after what I read in the affidavit yesterday.

    It's funny that weareallmarks said this
    Everyone should find court documents, timelines and interviews of the people involved before jumping to conclusions, but maybe searching for truth instead of jumping on the first thing might be a good idea.

    That could be flipped around on those who continue to believe the bull**** peddled about Michael Jackson. Yet somehow people still continue to buy into the inconsistent narrative peddled against him.

    But that's off-topic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭weareallmarks


    re jacko (off topic) there are court docs that have been sealed after he paid off alleged victims. over 200 mil paid to families. Very different, docs are SEALED in those cases!

    In the Massaro case, all is easily accessible but people are deeeeelighted to hop off 1 story and not investigate.
    But at the end of the day, the poor woman felt the best option was to take her own life. Very sad
    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    May have been a bit hasty in jumping with what I posted, emotionally jumped the gun after what I read in the affidavit yesterday.

    It's funny that weareallmarks said this

    That could be flipped around on those who continue to believe the bull**** peddled about Michael Jackson. Yet somehow people still continue to buy into the inconsistent narrative peddled against him.

    But that's off-topic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    AJ Styles has signed his last contract with WWE, which he revealed in an interview with Newsweek.
    I can tell you that this contract that I’ve signed is my last. This is the perfect place for me to be. It’s family-oriented, I have no problem taking my family to the shows. It’s a PG product, which I enjoy. I’m in the best place I can be for my career.

    https://www.newsweek.com/aj-styles-wwe-interview-contract-monday-night-raw-1431939


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    AJ Styles has signed his last contract with WWE, which he revealed in an interview with Newsweek.



    https://www.newsweek.com/aj-styles-wwe-interview-contract-monday-night-raw-1431939

    crazy 3 or 4 years ago no one thought Aj would ever be in wwe no hes of the biggest stars and a lifer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    this is great thing set up by lillian garcia never relised ashley had a daughter that age

    https://twitter.com/RealMickFoley/status/1131202294278688768?s=20


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,441 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    sky88 wrote: »
    this is great thing set up by lillian garcia never relised ashley had a daughter that age

    https://twitter.com/RealMickFoley/status/1131202294278688768?s=20

    Fair play to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,221 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    WWE have given a statement on the Ashley rape allegations...
    We reached out to WWE about the 2006 affidavit that included a claim by Ashley Massaro that she was sexually assaulted in 2006 while on tour in Kuwait. WWE issued the following response:

    “WWE is saddened by the death of Ashley Massaro, and we reiterate our condolences to her family. However, we regret that her attorney Konstantine Kyros, who filed multiple cases against WWE, lost all of them, and was sanctioned multiple times by the Court for repeated misconduct and false allegations, is using Ashley’s death to further his malicious campaign against WWE by releasing an affidavit that she submitted to the Court and later apologized to WWE for being involved with, so we wish to make certain things crystal clear.

    1. At no time was Vince McMahon or the management of WWE ever informed by Ashley Massaro or anybody else that she had been sexually assaulted, drugged, raped or sodomized by a military doctor with a nurse standing guard while on a goodwill tour in 2007 to U.S. military bases in Kuwait. In fact, if she ever articulated such a claim to WWE, we would have reported it immediately to the Base Commander.

    2. At no time was there ever a meeting with Vince McMahon, Kevin Dunn, John Laurinaitis or other company executives in which she told them of such a claim and was instructed to keep it quiet.”

    https://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/wwe-statement-on-sexual-assault-claims-made-in-2016-by-ashley-massaro/

    Quite a hostile denial of any wrongdoing on their end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,894 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    What a nasty nasty nasty company.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    Her 15 page affidavit is here if anyone wants to read it for themselves.

    https://wweconcussionlawsuitnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Ashley-Massaro-Affidavit-Clean-11.1.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    What a nasty nasty nasty company.

    How is it nasty?! They have to acknowledge this because it’s a huge accusation that can do so much damage so quickly, they didn’t ask for this to happen! Also the rebuttal is aimed at her lawyer, who does have a hard-on for getting WWE and is likely to go back to this well, while remaining respectful of her.

    Also, worth keeping in mind, she apologised for this!!! I’m wary of saying stuff like “Are those the actions of a victim?” because those comments are usually so far off base, but come on. Why go back and apologise if what you’re saying is true?

    People want to believe what they want to believe about WWE and will just ignore all evidence that challenges that. This is why we have courts, judges and due process instead of letting the public make decisions. Again, all it takes is one person involved to come out and corroborate her story. She’s named several of them. So far? None. I hope nobody here ever gets hit with accusations like this and I hope that, if you do, people give you more of a chance to defend your innocence than you’re giving WWE here. Maybe then you’ll understand how messed up what you’re doing is.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm surprised at that statement from WWE because I assumed there was at least some truth in the affidavit in which case I would have expected them to keep shtum. For them to come out so strongly is unexpected.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    honestly just seems like a standard corporate denial statement from lawyers any company would write


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 502 ✭✭✭sirmanga


    I don't see why people are saying WWE's response is nasty. None of us know if Ashley was telling the truth, so WWE is entitled to defend itself from such a horrible story.

    If the company had remained silent, the same people calling them nasty would be calling them out for their silence.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    sky88 wrote: »
    honestly just seems like a standard corporate denial statement from lawyers any company would write

    You think? Generally they're a bit less definitive and use more weasel words rather than categorical specific denial.


  • Registered Users Posts: 48,990 ✭✭✭✭Lithium93_


    sirmanga wrote: »
    I don't see why people are saying WWE's response is nasty. None of us know if Ashley was telling the truth, so WWE is entitled to defend itself from such a horrible story.

    If the company had remained silent, the same people calling them nasty would be calling them out for their silence.

    Well given that she signed that affidavit under penalties of perjury (which is a federal offence), you'd want to assume/hope/think she was telling the truth for her sake, otherwise she'd have been looking at 5 years in prison. That said it does vary on a State by State basis in the States.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 502 ✭✭✭sirmanga


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    Well given that she signed that affidavit under penalties of perjury (which is a federal offence), you'd want to assume/hope/think she was telling the truth for her sake, otherwise she'd have been looking at 5 years in prison. That said it does vary on a State by State basis in the States.

    That still doesn't mean she was telling the truth. If all someone has to do to prove they are telling the truth is submit an affidavit, then there would be no need for courts


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