Newbridge Chat Thread

GavMan · 07-01-2018 1:03pm

Conspectus wrote: »

My daughters friend works in Kavanagh's in the courtyard. Was talking to her earlier and she was telling me that they are moving to the old Terry Michaels premises in the next month or 2.

Things with that development obviously moving along well

WishUWereHere · 07-01-2018 1:29pm

richiek83 wrote: »

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Dunnes Stores had plans from 2008 for a significant extension of their shopping centre that included a multi-storey car park and retail units facing the main road. These plans were replaced in recent years with a more conservative and scaled back plan to regenerate and improve the centre. From reviewing the councils site, this is currently with ABP as the decision to grant was appealed with the main issue in the appeal being the wall Dunnes Stores constructed being inconsistant with the Newbridge LAP. A decision was due on the 13th December but the most recent update indicated that this is delayed due to the backlog of cases that ABP are currently dealing with. It is however at Board level which would indicate that a decision is not far off

Am amazed that SC is still trading. I haven't set foot in there for the past number of years. Noticed the Newsagent was gone. Are there many of the other shops still open? The key place? Peter Marks? Chemist? Veggie guy? Butcher?

IMO, that wall done them more harm than good. Wonder are they regretting ever building it?

jayzusb.christ · 07-01-2018 2:52pm

Happy New Year, everyone.

I am currently staying in a friend's in Newbridge (cat-sitting while he's on holidays, in fact) but need to get to Dublin city centre tomorrow before 9am to start a new job.
I am just wondering if it's worth getting the 7.15 JJ Kavanagh coach from the Bank of Ireland? It's cheaper than the train but I don't know if I can rely on the times.

Thanks a million

Brian

GavMan · 07-01-2018 3:01pm

jayzusb.christ wrote: »

Happy New Year, everyone.

I am currently staying in a friend's in Newbridge (cat-sitting while he's on holidays, in fact) but need to get to Dublin city centre tomorrow before 9am to start a new job.
I am just wondering if it's worth getting the 7.15 JJ Kavanagh coach from the Bank of Ireland? It's cheaper than the train but I don't know if I can rely on the times.

Thanks a million

Brian

Brian, for peace of mind, get the train. It's the first day back at school after xmas and M7 Upgrade works have started. One breakdown or accident and you will be snookered as there is no hard shoulder in many spots. Rush hour is well and truly on at the that time. My wife drives it everyday

jayzusb.christ · 07-01-2018 3:05pm

Hi Gav,

Thanks a million for the advice. The train it is so!

Ken. · 07-01-2018 4:15pm

WishUWereHere wrote: »

Am amazed that SC is still trading. I haven't set foot in there for the past number of years. Noticed the Newsagent was gone. Are there many of the other shops still open? The key place? Peter Marks? Chemist? Veggie guy? Butcher?

IMO, that wall done them more harm than good. Wonder are they regretting ever building it?

Peter marks still there, Chemist still there, Timpsons(key cutting) still there. All else gone.

WishUWereHere · 07-01-2018 8:54pm

GavMan wrote: »

Brian, for peace of mind, get the train. It's the first day back at school after xmas and M7 Upgrade works have started. One breakdown or accident and you will be snookered as there is no hard shoulder in many spots. Rush hour is well and truly on at the that time. My wife drives it everyday

Just been up & back to Dublin & can concur there are no hard shoulders on the Mway from the bundle of sticks heading up. I'd just like to say GavMan is giving sound advice here. Get the train!

WishUWereHere · 07-01-2018 8:56pm

Conspectus wrote: »

Peter marks still there, Chemist still there, Timpsons(key cutting) still there. All else gone.

All? Has the 'restaurant' gone also ( as far as I am aware, Dunne's owned it )? Wow, must be the proverbial ghost town there then.

Thanks for the heads up Conspectus. Can safely say nothing there to entice me back so!

Ken. · 07-01-2018 9:38pm

Sorry, The time piece is still there. That's dunnes own so didn't include it above. I must say the food their has improved greatly in the last while.

ando · 08-01-2018 3:32pm

WishUWereHere wrote: »

IMO, that wall done them more harm than good. Wonder are they regretting ever building it?

That wall is unbelievable. Goes to show what type of people run Dunnes.. I'm sure they'll knock it if they feel they're losing money in the near future. It'll make them look silly though so they may keep it up even if they're losing money.. who knows. Silly immature playground acting

lanomist · 08-01-2018 6:42pm

I see the road from Main Street thriugh Liffey Terrace is closed until St. Parricks day to enable road restructuring and drainage for the area. Big inconvenience for residents as regards parking ECT.

circular flexing · 08-01-2018 9:26pm

ando wrote: »

That wall is unbelievable. Goes to show what type of people run Dunnes.. I'm sure they'll knock it if they feel they're losing money in the near future. It'll make them look silly though so they may keep it up even if they're losing money.. who knows. Silly immature playground acting

I left Newbridge a few years ago - where is the wall that everyone is talking about here?

As an aside, a decision is due on the planning application appeal for the land beside Roseberry Hill

http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/249158.htm

Ken. · 08-01-2018 9:31pm

circular flexing wrote: »

I left Newbridge a few years ago - where is the wall that everyone is talking about here?

As an aside, a decision is due on the planning application appeal for the land beside Roseberry Hill

http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/249158.htm

You use to be able to drive in to Dunnes carpark and drive straight over to DID,world of wonder, etc.

As soon as supervalu moved in to the old Atlantic homecare building Dunnes blocked up the wall so you now have to leave dunnes carpark and drive around the back and in to that retail park by its main entrance. Hope that makes sense.

circular flexing · 08-01-2018 9:32pm

Conspectus wrote: »

You use to be able to drive in to Dunnes carpark and drive straight over to DID,world of wonder, etc.

As soon as supervalu moved in to the old Atlantic homecare building Dunnes blocked up the wall so you now have to leave dunnes carpark and drive around the back and in to that retail park by its main entrance. Hope that makes sense.

Yep makes perfect sense. Thanks! Seems like quite a silly move from Dunnes alright.

Cazale · 08-01-2018 9:35pm

ando wrote:

That wall is unbelievable. Goes to show what type of people run Dunnes..

Sure didn't they threaten to clamp their staff before if they parked their cars in the car park at Christmas when they were working.

Cazale · 08-01-2018 9:43pm

Progress is being made on the design of the long awaited Newbridge skate park.

Kildare County Council said last week that: â€œtenders have been received for the skate park and it is hoped to assess and award the work by the end of January. A start date for the work is dependent on when the successful contractor can start.â€

Last year, the location was approved by local councillors at Moorefield road at the green park area beside Woodies car park.Â

Some residents of Moorefield Park raised concerns about the decision due to fears over possible anti-social behaviour, maintenance of the facility, parking, and the loss of the green space to the town.

However, campaigners said that because of the site's proximity to the main road, passive surveillance would prevent any anti-social behaviour. Â Cllr Paddy Kennedy voted against the location and councillors all insisted at CCTV cameras being installed at the skate park to prevent any problems occurring. Once the contractor is selected, the design has to come back before the councillors for consideration.

WishUWereHere · 08-01-2018 10:37pm

circular flexing wrote: »

As an aside, a decision is due on the planning application appeal for the land beside Roseberry Hill

http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/249158.htm

Thanks for the heads up on this CF. The date is tomorrow, how long does it take for the findings to be uploaded? I live in Roseberry Hill, and have a vested interest in the outcome here. They want to build almost 400 houses, and another 100 in the field opposite the entrance to RH yet for us to head off, we have to contend with a traffic light controlled single lane bridge? :eek:

Crazy set-up.

richiek83 · 09-01-2018 10:58am

No appeal has been made against Lidl's development for the new distribution centre and a section of the relief road. Full planning permission has now been granted. I believe that Lidl already may have started the tendering process with total cost expected to be somewhere between €30-€35 million.

GavMan · 09-01-2018 12:36pm

richiek83 wrote: »

No appeal has been made against Lidl's development for the new distribution centre and a section of the relief road. Full planning permission has now been granted. I believe that Lidl already may have started the tendering process with total cost expected to be somewhere between €30-€35 million.

Is there any info out there on when/if the rest of the relief road will be completed or how it will be funded?

richiek83 · 09-01-2018 1:05pm

No expected completion date. It is an objective of the Local Area Plan which runs to 2019. However, no commitment to completion date. Delivery will be expected to be done by the Private Sector (ie developers). A new bridge will be required over the Liffey and it is not clear who will fund this. KCC did put this new bridge (and possibly link road from Great Connell towards Liffey) in its application for the Local Government Infrastructure Housing Activation Fund. However, the Govt and Dept of Environment didn't provide funding. Three projects in Kildare North (Naas, Maynooth and Sallins) received funding and none in Kildare South.

Cazale · 09-01-2018 1:12pm

richiek83 wrote:

No appeal has been made against Lidl's development for the new distribution centre and a section of the relief road. Full planning permission has now been granted. I believe that Lidl already may have started the tendering process with total cost expected to be somewhere between â‚¬30-â‚¬35 million.

I live in Liffey Hall and assumed this was going to be completed when they were doing the warehouse. Disappointed to hear they are only going so far with it.

richiek83 · 09-01-2018 3:04pm

To be honest, KCC always disappoints when it comes to Newbridge. Their attitude against the town is beyond a joke and has been for many years despite it being the biggest town in the county for the last two censuses.

The Eastern and Midland Regional Assembly is preparing a new regional and economic strategy and are currently looking for submissions. Our best bet is to make submissions and request that Newbridge is designated a Tier 1 Growth Town up to 2040. That way, we might get more investment from local and central Govt.

GavMan · 09-01-2018 4:24pm

Cazale wrote: »

I live in Liffey Hall and assumed this was going to be completed when they were doing the warehouse. Disappointed to hear they are only going so far with it.

Initially I thought the same and was disappointed to hear. I'll be writing to TD's and local reps on the issue

Cazale · 11-01-2018 3:37pm

Construction of the Lidl warehouse to start in April with 100 new jobs when it's open.

RTighe · 12-01-2018 4:26pm

Cazale wrote: »

Construction of the Lidl warehouse to start in April with 100 new jobs when it's open.

Its going to be a nightmare when its finished with the artics going from lidle warehouse up to hillborough / athgarvan / kilcullen direction,

It's pretty appalling already as it is

WishUWereHere · 13-01-2018 3:48pm

RTighe wrote: »

Its going to be a nightmare when its finished with the artics going from lidle warehouse up to hillborough / athgarvan / kilcullen direction,

It's pretty appalling already as it is

Won't be a nighmare for those who benefit jobwise from the project.

This all goes down to complete lack of foresight by those making the decisions.

CeilingFly · 13-01-2018 5:32pm

RTighe wrote: »

Its going to be a nightmare when its finished with the artics going from lidle warehouse up to hillborough / athgarvan / kilcullen direction,

It's pretty appalling already as it is

Glass half empty?

Here's the half full view

It will take almost all artics from the great connell road, it will take the Lidl, great connell & athgarvan traffic away from Pfizer roundabout - reducing traffic issues there dramatically in both morning and evening rush hour. A knock-on effect of reducing traffic delays going into Newbridge and also giving an alternative route for residents in the estates on the great connell road.

Very few artics go from Lidl warehouse to Athgarvan and this won't mean any extra.

RTighe · 18-01-2018 12:58pm

CeilingFly wrote: »

Glass half empty?

Here's the half full view

It will take almost all artics from the great connell road, it will take the Lidl, great connell & athgarvan traffic away from Pfizer roundabout - reducing traffic issues there dramatically in both morning and evening rush hour. A knock-on effect of reducing traffic delays going into Newbridge and also giving an alternative route for residents in the estates on the great connell road.

Very few artics go from Lidl warehouse to Athgarvan and this won't mean any extra.

not half empty, Just my own observation from being on that road for about 18 years.

personally i'd be delighted if this is the case

RTighe · 18-01-2018 1:00pm

WishUWereHere wrote: »

Won't be a nighmare for those who benefit jobwise from the project.

This all goes down to complete lack of foresight by those making the decisions.

From a job point of view I agree.

circular flexing · 18-01-2018 8:23pm

WishUWereHere wrote: »

Thanks for the heads up on this CF. The date is tomorrow, how long does it take for the findings to be uploaded? I live in Roseberry Hill, and have a vested interest in the outcome here. They want to build almost 400 houses, and another 100 in the field opposite the entrance to RH yet for us to head off, we have to contend with a traffic light controlled single lane bridge? :eek:

Crazy set-up.

The decision date got pushed back to 6th February.

lanomist · 19-01-2018 10:44pm

I read today that the Great wall of Dunnes is there to stay. KCC heared several objections to the wall but ruled that Dunnes were entitled to build it as they held no intrest in any property in Newbridge retail park.

beertons · 19-01-2018 10:53pm

lanomist wrote: »

I read today that the Great wall of Dunnes is there to stay. KCC heared several objections to the wall but ruled that Dunnes were entitled to build it as they held no intrest in any property in Newbridge retail park.

Money talks. No doubt a few bills swayed that appeal.

roy rodgers · 20-01-2018 1:14am

Since that wall we've never shopped in dunnes...but in fairness dunnes were always a my way no way company. So they can fucçcck off with themselves!!!!.
The place should be knocked into a car park be worth more to the town!

WishUWereHere · 20-01-2018 10:44am

roy rodgers wrote: »

Since that wall we've never shopped in dunnes...but in fairness dunnes were always a my way no way company. So they can fucçcck off with themselves!!!!.
The place should be knocked into a car park be worth more to the town!

Same here. Learnt ( on this site ) recently that there are hardly any shops aside from Dunne's still doing business in that excuse for a SC.

Dunne's actions enhances my belief they are an embarrassment to Newbridge.

CeilingFly · 20-01-2018 10:13pm

WishUWereHere wrote: »

Same here. Learnt ( on this site ) recently that there are hardly any shops aside from Dunne's still doing business in that excuse for a SC.

Dunne's actions enhances my belief they are an embarrassment to Newbridge.

Dunnes own the whole centre and as leases ended, dunnes took back ownership of the units.

They now have planning for full redevelopment which will start later this year.

As for the wall - it stops those motorists that sped through it to save 30 seconds.

It was always two separate developments and I can't see the issue.

Only shopped there once as its a fairly depressing centre that reeks of the 70's

Ken. · 20-01-2018 11:17pm

In fairness to Dunnes theirs not many in town that employ more people. Pfizer and maybe Tesco are the only 2 I can think of. Whitewater if you combine all the stores.

GavMan · 22-01-2018 9:15am

CeilingFly wrote: »

As for the wall - it stops those motorists that sped through it to save 30 seconds.

It was always two separate developments and I can't see the issue.

Indeed they are 2 developments but the wall was spiteful from Dunnes. As soon as Super Valu came along, up went the wall but Dunnes appeared to have cut their nose off to spite their face.

If I was inclined to shop in SuperValu, and I couldn't get something I needed in there, I would have walked around to Dunnes and more than likely got it (bigger store, more stock, etc). Now that I can't I wouldn't bother. So they are losing trade in some way shape or form.

They were unlikely to lose customers to SuperValu on a long term basis because SV can't compete with them on size, range and they are dearer than Dunnes.

Now with the new courtyard development, the wall really ruined the flow down to them and they will lose further walk in trade.

Shame really. But ho hum. I use Tesco online anyway so no skin off my nose.

ando · 22-01-2018 1:02pm

I've uploaded what I think the relief road will look like after everything is completed.. if it gets completed! Does anyone know if this is an accurate guess of the planned path/trajectory of the relief road after the Lidl roundabout?

richiek83 · 22-01-2018 3:46pm

Ando, that looks about right. Seen on kfm facebook page that KCC when asked by Cllr Lynch for an update on this section, stated that it will form part of an application to the Local Infrastructure Housing Activation Fund. The Dept of Environment must be talking about doing a second tranche of this fund. Remember, Newbridge and Kildare South as a whole missed out in the first tranche.

tommyboy26 · 22-01-2018 10:40pm

how will the lidl section of the relief road tie into the dual carrage from newbridge towards toughers?

GavMan · 23-01-2018 11:57am

tommyboy26 wrote: »

how will the lidl section of the relief road tie into the dual carrage from newbridge towards toughers?

There's an existing exit built beyond the hedge near where the lanes merge approaching Pfizer

Visible here: https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.1939478,-6.7655812,586m/data=!3m1!1e3

richiek83 · 23-01-2018 3:07pm

Hi folks,

Decision due on Courtyard SC extension on the 25th Jan. They responded to subsequent further information in late December.

tommyboy26 · 23-01-2018 4:59pm

GavMan wrote: »

There's an existing exit built beyond the hedge near where the lanes merge approaching Pfizer

yea i am aware of that. my question was if a truck comes out of the new warehouse and wants to go to dublin how does he get from the new roundabout across the dual carriage way?

richiek83 · 23-01-2018 6:10pm

The new roundabout will be on the dual carriageway (5 arm roundabout I think is planned) with one of those arms for access to the relief road and consequently the Lidl Warehouse.

richiek83 · 26-01-2018 12:41pm

Courtyard SC Extension granted planning permission by KCC. Conditions not yet uploaded to site.

tommyboy26 · 26-01-2018 11:19pm

richiek83 wrote: »

Courtyard SC Extension granted planning permission by KCC. Conditions not yet uploaded to site.

so what happens now? do they have to wait for any objections or can they move ahead with construction when ever they like?

circular flexing · 26-01-2018 11:22pm

tommyboy26 wrote: »

so what happens now? do they have to wait for any objections or can they move ahead with construction when ever they like?

They have to wait for objections I believe. Interested parties have 4 weeks to appeal to An Bord Pleanala.

aodh_rua · 27-01-2018 2:03pm

circular flexing wrote: »

They have to wait for objections I believe. Interested parties have 4 weeks to appeal to An Bord Pleanala.

You can only appeal if you submitted an official objection during the planning process.

lanomist · 27-01-2018 5:51pm

Was just wandering who owns the old " Irish ropes hostel " Beside the whitewater shopping centre. It's a terrible eyesore when you come in to town from the Killcullen direction surely if the whitewater own it they would have developed it.

ando · 28-01-2018 10:26am

lanomist wrote: »

Was just wandering who owns the old " Irish ropes hostel " Beside the whitewater shopping centre. It's a terrible eyesore when you come in to town from the Killcullen direction surely if the whitewater own it they would have developed it.

I think there’s some sort of protection on that building, which is madness as yes if it’s the same building that I think you’re on about it really does need to be knocked

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