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Atlantic crossings and Shannon

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  • 29-11-2020 8:17pm
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    Ish66
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    Do aircraft flying high over Shannon/Ireland to Europe etc talk to Shannon airport ? Would anyone have an ATC link to that frequency, Thank you.


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    Avoation1091
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    The SNN ATC do speak to flights from US - EU around Shannon. This link has the SNN ATC

    https://www.liveatc.net/search/?icao=SNN

    You can here some flights speak to the ATC in SNN. They also speak to Shanwick. Some of the atlantic air space is controlled by them. Im not sure if thats in that link but that is based near SNN. Flights departing SNN-US also request clearance from them if im not wrong.


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    Gaoth Laidir
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    They don't talk to Shannon Airport ATC, only the control centre at Ballygireen.


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    faoiarvok
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    Gaoth Laidir wrote: »
    They don't talk to Shannon Airport ATC, only the control centre at Ballygireen.

    Ballygirreen is Shanwick Radio, relaying between aircraft and controllers at Prestwick in Scotland for the Shanwick Oceanic Control Area. Shannon Control is at Ballycasey in Shannon. Shannon Approach, Tower & Ground are at the airport.


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    smurfjed
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    Gaoth Laidir wrote: »
    They don't talk to Shannon Airport ATC, only the control centre at Ballygireen.

    Shanwick control the Atlantic and not the Shannon FIR, so crews will speak to Shannon ATC entering and exiting the Atlantic. I also understand that the Shannon ATC are controllers, whilst Shanwick are radio operators who relay information to/from Prestwick in Scotland.


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    JW7
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    I was listening to SNN control high (West/Coastal) yesterday for about an hour, curious to know why you can hear aircraft contacting them over Atlantic east bound, SNN confirming identification then nothing, as they head over Ireland towards UK


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    cml387
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    Thats normally all they need to do until they leave Shanwick airspace and are handed on to London or wherever.


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    HTCOne
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    JW7 wrote: »
    I was listening to SNN control high (West/Coastal) yesterday for about an hour, curious to know why you can hear aircraft contacting them over Atlantic east bound, SNN confirming identification then nothing, as they head over Ireland towards UK

    They check in approx 300nm off the West Coast as that's about your range limit of Secondary Surveillance Radar and VHF. There's so little traffic now pretty much everyone gets their flight plan route and very little vectoring or level changes for crossing traffic is required relatively speaking, not to mention much of the comms are done via CPDLC now.


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    Storm 10
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    If you listen to Shannon 124.700 or 135.6 you will hear Shannon controllers handing them over to Shanwick for a West bound flight or talking to them as they come East and are handed over by Shanwick, Shannon controls a very large area of the Atlantic, Shanwick have a large number of frequencies the most popular are 5680 and 5616 on HF time of day also affects them so the change around to suit.


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