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Farming on hen harrier land

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  • 10-08-2018 7:37pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭


    What's the best (or only) way to manage rushes on hen harrier land. What are the other restrictions on such land RE drainage/ploughing etc. Or is there a good website with this info?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    lalababa wrote: »
    What's the best (or only) way to manage rushes on hen harrier land. What are the other restrictions on such land RE drainage/ploughing etc. Or is there a good website with this info?

    When you say hen harrier land- are you in a scheme?

    In my case- licking rushes allowed and topping not allowed between March 15th and July 15th.

    Rushes should be topped according to the photo attached.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭lalababa


    I am researching unique types of farming in Ireland.Many thanks. Are the measures very farm specific? Good god! You can only top half the field and in linear alternating lines! Yet you are allowed lick? Can you lick all fields? I heard you cannot lick? Any more info. greatly appreciated.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    lalababa wrote: »
    I am researching unique types of farming in Ireland.Many thanks. Are the measures very farm specific? Good god! You can only top half the field and in linear alternating lines! Yet you are allowed lick? Can you lick all fields? I heard you cannot lick? Any more info. greatly appreciated.

    Yeah half the field- no silage/baling in the area that we have designated for glas. Less than 40units of artificial nitrogen/acre/year.

    Really it’s about creating a sward greater than 100mm.

    The glas guidelines are in the link below. There is a page of what is required for the scheme and the payments etc.

    https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/farmerschemespayments/glas/

    There is also a new scheme to promote hen harrier development and is more results based than actions. I am not in this scheme so know very little about it.

    The actions In this one are farm specific AFAIK

    http://www.henharrierproject.ie


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭50HX


    Have hen harrier land in as part of the glas measure

    Can I top away/weed rush lick in strips at this of year


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    50HX wrote: »
    Have hen harrier land in as part of the glas measure

    Can I top away/weed rush lick in strips at this of year

    I don’t know about the licking but definitely no topping.

    Also as far as I know, you can lick the entire place but top in the strips.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭50HX


    No topping at any stage of the year?


  • Registered Users Posts: 532 ✭✭✭PoorFarmer


    50HX wrote:
    Have hen harrier land in as part of the glas measure

    50HX wrote:
    Can I top away/weed rush lick in strips at this of year


    As far as I can remember from the GLAS specs you can only lick if the ground conditions dictate that it's to difficult to top. Topping is the preferred method though and only outside of the dates specified.
    I would suspect that the licking could only be done in strips also or it would defeat the whole purpose of trying to create a habitat


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,161 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    We are not in the Hen Harrier scheme but reading the GLAS specifications rushes are integral to their breeding habitat and are not considered a noxious weed - therefore weed licking is out. According to the specs if grazing cannot prevent rushes taking over 70% of the parcel than rotational cutting of no more than 50% of the parcel is allowed.
    See page 19 - 6. Hen Harrier in the link - https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/media/migration/farmingschemesandpayments/glastranche1/GLASTranche1Spec161015.pdf


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭50HX


    Base price wrote: »
    We are not in the Hen Harrier scheme but reading the GLAS specifications rushes are integral to their breeding habitat and are not considered a noxious weed - therefore weed licking is out. According to the specs if grazing cannot prevent rushes taking over 70% of the parcel than rotational cutting of no more than 50% of the parcel is allowed.
    See page 19 - 6. Hen Harrier in the link - https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/media/migration/farmingschemesandpayments/glastranche1/GLASTranche1Spec161015.pdf

    That's what i've been reading but can't find any dates to adhere to


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    50HX wrote: »
    That's what i've been reading but can't find any dates to adhere to

    Page 31 of the specs- no control of rushes from 15th of March to 15th of July.

    https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/media/migration/farmingschemesandpayments/glastranche3/GLAS3Specification031116.pdf


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭50HX


    Page 31 of the specs- no control of rushes from 15th of March to 15th of July.

    https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/media/migration/farmingschemesandpayments/glastranche3/GLAS3Specification031116.pdf

    Your spot on, thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭Shadow Dancer


    Depends as well which tranche you are under I believe. If you are in tranche 1, you can top any time of year (to the best of my knowledge).


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    Depends as well which tranche you are under I believe. If you are in tranche 1, you can top any time of year (to the best of my knowledge).

    I got that from reading the guidelines too. I’ve contacted my ag advisor to verify that.

    I hope you’re right.


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