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Irish Rail Jobs Discussion

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Does anyone know if irish rail hire software developers? Or is this all outsourced.

    To be honest if you are a software developer it would be the last place I would look at for a job

    Most companies like Irish Rail would use tender process to hire in companies to do any requirements like software dev, hiring and keeping a software dev on full time pay would be expensive compared to a tender process

    Or they would have Deloitte/Accenture etc in there telling them who to hire


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Does anyone know if irish rail hire software developers? Or is this all outsourced.

    I think CIE look after the IT side for all the companies and it's not outsourced or at least some of it isn't hence why there are so many IT issues.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    I think CIE look after the IT side for all the companies and it's not outsourced or at least some of it isn't hence why there are so many IT issues.

    CIE are in the process of moving into outsource.....if I tell you anymore I would need to kill you :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    CIE are in the process of moving into outsource.....if I tell you anymore I would need to kill you :P

    Outsourcing everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,536 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Following proud Irish Rail traditions then! Only bit of the group that really got in to outsourcing before


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭Blikes


    Heard nothing since the interview. I emailed them to ask but got no reply.

    Really annoying considering i went through all the hurdles. Did the aptitude and mechanical reason tests, did the months of waiting, spent time and money driving 300km to Dublin for the interview.

    The least they could do is tell you if you're in or out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,512 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Blikes wrote: »
    Heard nothing since the interview. I emailed them to ask but got no reply.

    Really annoying considering i went through all the hurdles. Did the aptitude and mechanical reason tests, did the months of waiting, spent time and money driving 300km to Dublin for the interview.

    The least they could do is tell you if you're in or out.

    They could contact you tomorrow and ask if you can start last Tuesday, that's what IE are like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    They could contact you tomorrow and ask if you can start last Tuesday, that's what IE are like.

    Handy few days off with pay :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭FACECUTTR


    Blikes wrote: »
    Heard nothing since the interview. I emailed them to ask but got no reply.

    Really annoying considering i went through all the hurdles. Did the aptitude and mechanical reason tests, did the months of waiting, spent time and money driving 300km to Dublin for the interview.

    The least they could do is tell you if you're in or out.

    Did you ever get a reply from Irish rail about that job you applied for ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    FACECUTTR wrote: »
    Did you ever get a reply from Irish rail about that job you applied for ?

    I never got anything back.....


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭FACECUTTR


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I never got anything back.....

    Very strange ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I never got anything back.....
    They were doing interviews a week or 2 ago for engineers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭TheQuietFella


    FACECUTTR wrote: »
    Very strange ?

    I applied for countless jobs without so much of an acknowledgment but that's

    the modern way of doing things I suppose. Not the correct way though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,512 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    I applied for countless jobs without so much of an acknowledgment but that's

    the modern way of doing things I suppose. Not the correct way though!

    True. It's not specific to Irish Rail.
    Lots of companies just leave interviewees hanging, never doing the courtesy of letting them know they were unsuccessful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    True. It's not specific to Irish Rail.
    Lots of companies just leave interviewees hanging, never doing the courtesy of letting them know they were unsuccessful.

    And having doing so for decades. It's never been easier, or cheaper fpr employers to have basic manners but you wouldn't want to hold your breath while waiting for replies to job applications.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭whiskeygirl


    Same last year when I applied for some summer station assistant job. Had what I would assume an expensive IR customised online aptitude test and an interview but nothing after. Couldn't get HR person on the phone and no reply to emails.

    It's fair enough nowadays to not get a reply for every job application, but if you've been interviewed and have made the effort and expense to attend in person, it's the least a company can do to inform you one way or the other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Faith+1


    Same last year when I applied for some summer station assistant job. Had what I would assume an expensive IR customised online aptitude test and an interview but nothing after. Couldn't get HR person on the phone and no reply to emails.

    It's fair enough nowadays to not get a reply for every job application, but if you've been interviewed and have made the effort and expense to attend in person, it's the least a company can do to inform you one way or the other.

    I hear you whiskeygirl. About 2 years ago I drove to Meath for an interview and didn't get as much as an e-mail to let me know I was unsuccessful. Seriously piss*d me off at the time as I wasn't working and it cost me a few quid to drive there and back, the least they could of done was let me know.


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    Faith+1 wrote: »
    I hear you whiskeygirl. About 2 years ago I drove to Meath for an interview and didn't get as much as an e-mail to let me know I was unsuccessful. Seriously piss*d me off at the time as I wasn't working and it cost me a few quid to drive there and back, the least they could of done was let me know.

    That's happened to me after several face to face interviews with various companies. For me it's the height of amateurism and total disrespect.

    I can totally accept that it is unrealistic to get a reply to every job application but if you have got to a stage that you have been interviewed than its totally out of order. Surely these organisations have heard of mail merge? Do up a generic 'Dear John' letter and add name to the database when you are declining application


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭FACECUTTR


    Very odd that nobody on here heard anything from them. Maybe there's something happening with recruitment.
    If I remember correctly the apprenticeship was supposed to start at the start of September.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    FACECUTTR wrote: »
    Very odd that nobody on here heard anything from them. Maybe there's something happening with recruitment.
    If I remember correctly the apprenticeship was supposed to start at the start of September.

    I think it is a joke they have sent nothing, not even a FU email.....terrible carry on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    Vacancy for an Engeneering operative in Portloise.

    Email recruitment@Irishrail.ie.

    It's on their website.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭Blikes


    I sent an email in August, a month after the interview asking for a follow up. They replied on the 24th August:

    "You will receive notification in relation to your interview in the coming weeks this process is still ongoing at this time.
    Kind regards,
    IE IM Recruitment"

    Nothing since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 204 ✭✭Hugh Jampton




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Anyone know what the minimum age requirement is for the seasonal customer service jobs currently been advertised for Irish Rail, thanks.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Anyone know what the minimum age requirement is for the seasonal customer service jobs currently been advertised for Irish Rail, thanks.

    16


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 876 ✭✭✭Lord Glentoran


    What’s the average time between application and follow up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭Blikes


    What’s the average time between application and follow up?

    Over a year from application to interview to hearing back for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    Check out their Web site, there are a few vacancies that might interest some of you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    Anyone in here from the Waterford area? Gatekeeper jobs are on the website.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,472 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Hilly Bill wrote: »
    Anyone in here from the Waterford area? Gatekeeper jobs are on the website.

    That must be on the Limerick junction line? All level crossings on the Waterford Dublin line are automated...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    road_high wrote: »
    That must be on the Limerick junction line? All level crossings on the Waterford Dublin line are automated...

    Rossinan and Kilmacow are manned still.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,472 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Rossinan and Kilmacow are manned still.

    Are they? I thought the lot were automated now. Surely they will be soon?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    road_high wrote: »
    Are they? I thought the lot were automated now. Surely they will be soon?

    Yep.
    Possibly, but Irish Rail's interpretation of soon might differ from ours:).

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    They have one poor lad controlling two crossings on the line. Is the salary correct on the add, yes its a basic job but its barly min wage. I thaught other gate keeper ads started on 30k.

    Your could prob count on one hand how many crossings have changed to automatic over the last 6 years. €1 million per crossing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    They have one poor lad controlling two crossings on the line. Is the salary correct on the add, yes its a basic job but its barly min wage. I thaught other gate keeper ads started on 30k.

    Your could prob count on one hand how many crossings have changed to automatic over the last 6 years. €1 million per crossing.

    Point of order, not all lads:)
    Actually just read your post properly.
    Just to clarify, two crossings one of which is a double gate. Six gatekeepers.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,472 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    They have one poor lad controlling two crossings on the line. Is the salary correct on the add, yes its a basic job but its barly min wage. I thaught other gate keeper ads started on 30k.

    Your could prob count on one hand how many crossings have changed to automatic over the last 6 years. €1 million per crossing.

    I hardly ever head south on the line but aren't all the crossings north of KK automatic now? Didn't realize there were still some manuals near Waterford.
    How does it work one guy covering two level crossings? Does he hop in the car close one and back to the next one? Surely one would be closed for ages!
    Didn't the gatekeeper live in the usual cottage beside the crossing and part of the deal was a free house?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    road_high wrote: »
    I hardly ever head south on the line but aren't all the crossings north of KK automatic now? Didn't realize there were still some manuals near Waterford.
    How does it work one guy covering two level crossings? Does he hop in the car close one and back to the next one? Surely one would be closed for ages!
    Didn't the gatekeeper live in the usual cottage beside the crossing and part of the deal was a free house?

    Yes from Mullinavat up, there are 21 crossings (10 between Waterford/Thomastown) and 18 are automatic.

    Id say he walks (if its just one person), yes likely closed for ages there was a long time where trains had to slow but they appear to have sorted that. Prob closes as soon as trains out of Waterford pass Waterford West (signal cabin).

    https://www.google.com/maps/@52.3271581,-7.156153,347a,35y,146.32h,44.88t/data=!3m1!1e3
    Point of order, not all lads
    Actually just read your post properly.
    Just to clarify, two crossings one of which is a double gate. Six gatekeepers.

    So do two gate keepers control it or just one?, I have only ever saw one usually on the Kilkenny side of Irish's Bar.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Yes from Mullinavat up, there are 21 crossings (10 between Waterford/Thomastown) and 18 are automatic.

    Id say he walks (if its just one person), yes likely closed for ages there was a long time where trains had to slow but they appear to have sorted that. Prob closes as soon as trains out of Waterford pass Waterford West (signal cabin).

    https://www.google.com/maps/@52.3271581,-7.156153,347a,35y,146.32h,44.88t/data=!3m1!1e3



    So do two gate keepers control it or just one?, I have only ever saw one usually on the Kilkenny side of Irish's Bar.

    Yes, just one.
    GK gets an indication that a train is en route and closes both gates(kilmacow). Gates are very near each other(100m approximately).

    Rossinan is a different XC and operated by another GK.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Lots of positions open for DART Expansion, National Control Center and City Centre Resignaling

    http://www.irishrail.ie/about-us/career-opportunities


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »

    Looking for 100 drivers.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2019/0102/1019897-train-drivers/

    There has been a long term legacy agreement not to advertise externally, change was always subject to agreement, looks like that is done with, but interestingly there appears to be no new agreement on this so I'll expect a particular union to have all sorts to say about this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Say in what respect?

    Im sure IE are saying any new agreement for the next pay row.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    GM228 wrote: »
    Looking for 100 drivers.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2019/0102/1019897-train-drivers/

    There has been a long term legacy agreement not to advertise externally, change was always subject to agreement, looks like that is done with, but interestingly there appears to be no new agreement on this so I'll expect a particular union to have all sorts to say about this.


    Nope, anyone internal can apply as well and there will be a shortage due to retirements etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    I thought it said 400 drivers? Internally be an easier comp, however they might need external to meet the number and female quota.

    Looks like a long process.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Political Wall Map


    Unions couldnt get involved in this one. The only reason they are looking at external recruitment is because of the low number of internal applicants that passed assesments the last time round. So unions could have no say in it. They need drivers and cant fill from internal staff. Its not IE that set the standards anymore so the only people who could have a potential problem would be the trainers, and since the training has changed in the last couple years to suit people with no railway experience..... nothing can really be said.....

    GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    anyone know what the routs assignment will be out if this ? Will you be able to work where you live i mean ? also where does the 32 weeks training take place?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Political Wall Map


    dashoonage wrote: »
    anyone know what the routs assignment will be out if this ? Will you be able to work where you live i mean ? also where does the 32 weeks training take place?

    Not really. Doest really work like that. But you could get lucky. Id say you will apply for either loco or dart. And then state preferred location either in the interview stage or during the application. 32 weeks training is in dublin. Either fairview, heuston or Inchicore.

    Jump on the chance. See how the application process goes and worry about the rest after it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 341 ✭✭lfc200


    Starting salary of €45K, are there shift rates, weekend rates etc on top of that or is that all in?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    lfc200 wrote: »
    Starting salary of €45K, are there shift rates, weekend rates etc on top of that or is that all in?

    No, its a single composite rate, no extra for weekends


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