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191 VW Golf petrol, yay or nay

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  • #92
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,297 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    NIMAN wrote: »
    I had a loan of a 1.0 petrol Polo today.

    Drove nice but I noticed it revd high.
    When my 1.6d would run at 1500rpm, the 1 litre petrol was 2500rpm.

    That's going to be tough on the juice surely?

    That would indicate that the it is making up for the smaller volume with higher rpm and that while the consumption is similar (you are trying to compare diesel to petrol but to keep it easier pretend petrol 1.5/1 litre) the life of the engine should be much shorter as the parts are moving roughly 1.5 times as often to the bigger engine leading to more wear. So if a 1.5 was good for 300k, in similar treatment the 1l is good for 200k.


  • #93
    Wildly Boaring
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,652 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    NIMAN wrote: »
    I had a loan of a 1.0 petrol Polo today.

    Drove nice but I noticed it revd high.
    When my 1.6d would run at 1500rpm, the 1 litre petrol was 2500rpm.

    That's going to be tough on the juice surely?

    Yes a 1 litre petrol will be harder on juice than a 1.6 diesel.

    We still bought the petrol ateca as my wife now does little to no long spins. She drives everyday but 30km max.

    Car was cheaper and in the long wrong should be cheaper on dpf and dmf


  • #94
    Toyotafanboi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    Worth noting that the 1.0 in the Polo isn't the same as the 1.0 in the Golf. I think judging potential fuel economy of a 1.6d vs a 1.0p engine based on nothing more than rpm is a bit naive, there's far more to it than that.


  • #95
    grogi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    Toyotafanboi wrote: »
    Worth noting that the 1.0 in the Polo isn't the same as the 1.0 in the Golf. I think judging potential fuel economy of a 1.6d vs a 1.0p engine based on nothing more than rpm is a bit naive, there's far more to it than that.

    You can have Polo with 1.0 MPI with 60 or 75 BHP. Or a 1.0 TSI with 95 or even 115 BHP. The latter two are the same that are found in Golf.

    MPI would revs very highly (~4000rpm at 120kmh in 5th gear), TSI has a much longer gearbox (~2500rpm at 120kmh in last gear)


  • #96
    Toyotafanboi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    grogi wrote: »
    You can have Polo with 1.0 MPI with 60 or 75 BHP. Or a 1.0 TSI with 95 or even 115 BHP. The latter two are the same that are found in Golf.

    Yes, but you don't really see many, if any of the Turbo TSI Polos in the wild, 98% would be 65bhp. I think the TSI only come with DSG too. Very unlikely NIMAN was driving a TSI. Just for anyone comparing reviews on the Polo 1.0 to that of the Golf, it's unlikely to be the same engine reviewed.

    My mam has a Polo with the 65bhp, it's excellent on fuel and sounds very very smooth for what it is. It's fairly sluggish over 80km/h though, that's be my biggest gripe with it.


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  • #97
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,971 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    My mistake, I just assumed the 1litre petrol I experienced in the Polo would be the same engine as in the Golf.

    That explains a lot!!


  • #98
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    What’s the 3 cylinder TSI like compared to the previous 1.2 TSI?


  • #99
    Rusky rusky
    Registered Users Posts: 947 ✭✭✭Rusky rusky


    Gael23 wrote: »
    What’s the 3 cylinder TSI like compared to the previous 1.2 TSI?
    Kind of fine. They less refined, idle at much higher rpm, have narrower torque band, although have more torque - 1400-4000rpm/175nm for 1.2 vs 2000-3500rpm / 200nm for 1.0. In other words 1.0 is more docile than 1.2, which is very punchy.


  • #100
    DaveyDave
    Registered Users Posts: 6,286 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Rusky rusky wrote: »
    Kind of fine. They less refined, idle at much higher rpm, have narrower torque band, although have more torque - 1400-4000rpm/175nm for 1.2 vs 2000-3500rpm / 200nm for 1.0. In other words 1.0 is more docile than 1.2, which is very punchy.

    I thought the 1.2 idled at around 900rpm? The 1 litre is around 1,000rpm.


  • #101
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Rusky rusky wrote: »
    Kind of fine. They less refined, idle at much higher rpm, have narrower torque band, although have more torque - 1400-4000rpm/175nm for 1.2 vs 2000-3500rpm / 200nm for 1.0. In other words 1.0 is more docile than 1.2, which is very punchy.

    Would you change out of a 1.2 into it?


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  • #102
    Rusky rusky
    Registered Users Posts: 947 ✭✭✭Rusky rusky


    DaveyDave wrote: »
    I thought the 1.2 idled at around 900rpm? The 1 litre is around 1,000rpm.

    The 1.0 def ab 900ish, the 1.2 I think is below 700. Will check over w/e as my wife drives the 1.2


  • #103
    Rusky rusky
    Registered Users Posts: 947 ✭✭✭Rusky rusky


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Would you change out of a 1.2 into it?
    I did, as the 1.2 was discontinued.


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