Sexism you have personally experienced or have heard of? *READ POST 1*

splashuum wrote: »

The person I offered to walk home ... lol

lol , well you learnt a lesson didn't you. You see it works like this us men who don't have feminism don't have bullet proof shields that keep us from harm.

Everyone knows if you embrace feminism you can go where ever you want and do what you want as nothing bad happens.

Calhoun wrote: »

Looks like Miss Piggy is spreading her sexist message again https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/education/creation-of-womenonly-university-posts-not-about-keeping-men-out-of-power-says-mary-mitchell-oconnor-38240808.html .

Sincerely hope she looses her seat ,I also hope this role is challenged legally. She is making way to much noise about how it's legal for their not to be some form of legal challenge.

It's frustrating because I think, in general, at senior levels having a pretty close to 50-50 split in gender is a good thing... not the most important thing obviously, but it has some positives and no negatives.



No negatives, unless you have people taking ham-fisted approaches to fixing the problem like this of course. Whether it's well-meaning or not, it's a stupid way to bring parity, you have to make sure there's a level playing field and no un-equal barriers and then let things take their course.

"The minister said terms like “may the best man win” or “the best man for the job” - while they may be throwaway terms - had “nestled far too comfortably into everyday language” and become the norm."

Jesus christ maybe focus on the important issues.

kazamo wrote: »

Unlikely to lose her seat....the other FG TD for Dun Laoghaire is Maria Bailey. Now theres a difficult choice on polling day if Bailey gets that far.

With the gender quotas, they are probably more likely to stay on the ticket than otherwise.

hots wrote: »

"The minister said terms like “may the best man win” or “the best man for the job” - while they may be throwaway terms - had “nestled far too comfortably into everyday language” and become the norm."

Jesus christ maybe focus on the important issues.

It's as sexist as refering to all bovine animals as 'cows' regardless of their gender

good one

The Specialist wrote: »

Hidden behind their ****ty paywall but the headline says it all - for those unfamiliar with this **** show, Maura is an Irish contestant who managed to both force herself on to a male who didn’t want it, and also “checked if she was giving him a boner” by lifting the bed sheets. A male would be fired off the show and vilified but this one is a “feminist icon”?!!! I’ve just reset my thoughts on R Kelly/Chris Brown thanks to this, 2 sound out misunderstood guys in fairness - icons for masculinity.

https://m.independent.ie/style/voices/dr-ciara-kelly-we-need-love-islands-maura-an-unexpected-feminist-icon-38266326.html

He was dull, vain and weak. She is funny, feisty and straight-talking. He didn't deserve Maura. In fact, I'm not sure if any of us do.

I find the last sentence hard to accept. I haven't followed the series, but nothing in the article that I recall suggests she is some sort of saint or a particularly amazing person. Perhaps it is an extension of an attitude I have wondered about: any man should be grateful if any woman is interested in them; while it's perfectly okay for women to be picky.

I see there’s a business in the Stephens Green centre advertising outside the centre with a picture of a lady looking up a mans kilt for the past few days. Given up skirting is due to be a criminal offense soon I don’t think I’m reaching to call this unacceptable?

py2006 wrote: »

Take a pic of it and post it here.

This is the same image that they’re using

https://www.avantages-harmonie.fr/avantages/centres-de-beaute/depil-tech-cergy/

(As at today anyway)

Calhoun wrote: »

However saying that i think in both cases we need to try and understand the barriers to reporting and see if we can resolve.

As I mentioned in another thread, a recent newspaper article happened to mention Women’s Aid were training the Gardai. It doesn’t give much confidence they would be trained in a gender-neutral way. Many men could be wary they might end up being blamed.

Deleted User wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/steve-hansen-criticised-for-saying-domestic-violence-is-not-a-gender-thing-1.3950005


So rugby coach says that Domestic Violence is not gender specific and gets hammered.
The important thing is that he was a police constable and called out to houses because of this but his experience is called "out-dated", because things have changed so much behind closed doors in 20 years.

There is a growing acceptance that men are vastly under-reported in domestic violence stakes (or just not believed) but that under representation is being used to hammer him.

In my close group of 3 guys, 2 of us have admitted to being physically (and emotionally) abused by a previous female partner.
One case drawing blood and a sexual assault, the other resulting in concussion.

Neither of us has reported it, does that mean it does not count?

i heard something on the radio yesterday i think. only caught a small bit of it.
they said 2 out of every 3 reported cases are fmale victims and 1/3 male victims. then said they estimate that 1 in5 women report it and 1 in 20 men report it.

if you work that out to estiamted total levels then that shows that men are victims twice as often as women

Silentcorner wrote: »

Our schools are about to embark on an initiative to reduce violence against women, our boys will be told/indoctrinated to believe that domestic abuse only impacts women.

Has anyone any info on this? I'm not sure I was aware of it.

Silentcorner wrote: »

That would tally with the belief (of people on the cold front of domestic abuse) that 70% of non reciprocal domestic abuse is committed by women on men.

We spend €17,000,000 per annum in services to abused women, we spend €750-850k on male victims.

Our schools are about to embark on an initiative to reduce violence against women, our boys will be told/indoctrinated to believe that domestic abuse only impacts women.

To be fair to the feminists, complaining and lobbying really pays off!

and they wonder why so many men hate this feminist nonscense
all the facts show men as the higher pecentage of victims but all recourses and talk is directed at women . all we get is blamed for it

Silentcorner wrote: »

The Istanbul Convention.

https://www.thejournal.ie/ihrc-istanbul-convention-4701842-Jul2019/

To combat "the epidemic of violence against women"....

Thanks.

The Irish Government has pledged an extra €1.5m in funding to tackle a rise in domestic and sexual violence.
The additional money will go towards frontline services combating rape, sexual assaults and gender based attacks.
Minister for Children and Youth Affairs Katherine Zappone said 16 organisations combating sexual violence in Ireland will benefit from the 10pc increase in core funding.
Counties that are lacking in domestic violence services will have 12 new outreach workers for women and children.
Areas in Galway, Carlow, Wicklow, Cork and Dublin are set to benefit from the increase in support.

"The new initiatives will also ensure that Ireland meets its international obligations under the Istanbul Convention."

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/government-pledges-1-5m-to-tackle-domestic-and-sexual-violence-38051265.html


It is really quite disappointing that international conventions should be so biased. In medicine, lots of conditions are more prevalent in one gender or the other, but we don't have such huge imbalances in services based on gender.

Silentcorner wrote: »

The Istanbul Convention.

https://www.thejournal.ie/ihrc-istanbul-convention-4701842-Jul2019/

To combat "the epidemic of violence against women"....

I think violence against anyone regardless of gender is a bad thing.

But surely instead of an "epidemic" it is actually at a historically low level?

naughtb4 wrote: »

I think violence against anyone regardless of gender is a bad thing.

But surely instead of an "epidemic" it is actually at a historically low level?

Exactly - like on many other subject - from poverty to wars, from air travel safety to health, there is a widespread belief that we're at the "worst point in history" when the reality is the polar opposite; The fact is that now, thanks to uselessly invasive media, we know about every single thing happening around; Combine it with ignorance, stupidity and the frankly daft idea that "we live to suffer" promoted by a number of religions, and you have the most classic of pessimistic cultures.

Recent example - a lot of people are certain there's something inherently wrong with aviation safety and that planes are falling from the skies like dead flies; The recent issues with the 737-MAX8 don't help, yet numbers don't lie - air travel is the safest it's ever been.

However,each single incident - even those who result in no casualties and hardly any property damage - get extensive media coverage. Compound it with ignorance about the subject matter and a widespread fear of flying (in some countries more than others), and hey presto, "get on a plane - you're going to die". I've spoken to people who haven't taken a holiday in years because they're "scared of all the crashes".

Interesting fact is, I don't actually believe there to be any "agenda" behind this originally, it's just an unexpected effect; What's going on, however, is that there ARE individuals and organizations who are taking advantage of the phenomena and embark in a fear mongering, facts-distortion campaign.

Cue back to the "extreme right / conservatives" political movements rising back from the deep grave they had been rightfully confined to...

iptba wrote: »

Has anyone any info on this? I'm not sure I was aware of it.

Important Disclaimer: I consider myself to be a very tolerant person in general. I am a straight hetero-sexual male (born male) with a wife and kids.....not married by the church, but have Christian beliefs and values. I hold the view that kids are best raised by a mother and a father, but I accept this is not always possible. I don't inflict my beliefs on others either. I am accepting of peoples sexual preference and will call a person by their preferred male/female preference. I draw the line at other titles and I believe you are born a male, or a female, regardless of your preference.

At my daughters school, they sent home the note about the upcoming sex ed and a leaflet to outline what would be taught. And while I accept other peoples preference, I vehemently disagree with the tripe they were offering up as sex ed. Their aim is to not only normalise, but seemingly promote same sex relationships. There was more information about same sex relationships and gender identity/reassignment than there was about sex between a man and a woman.

Why not teach the basics.....explain and encourage safe-sex with any gender and have a website with unbiased information they can access for further information? We could not in good conscience expose our child to that state sponsored nonsense. We teach our kids about choice and inform them that others make different choices and have different preferences.....but we don't try pretend that it is "normal" for boys to dress like girls. It is "different"....it is "okay" and it is nothing to be ashamed of, but it is not "normal" in our opinion. I think to teach nonsense to our kids we are doing them a great dis-service and setting them up for far more complicated and confusing young lives than is already ahead of them.

I hope I have not offended anyone, faux or otherwise. But while I do accept that there are people who fit the description which I do not classify as "normal", I want to be clear that I respect that others have their own opinions and views on what is "normal" and I don't judge people based on their preference, even if I don't understand it.

...Ghost... wrote: »

I would assume that men are more often victims of mental/emotional abuse, as their female partners will use the most effective tools in their arsenal. Emotional abuse is far more sinister and much more difficult to prove. In lots of cases, it starts with nagging and over time it becomes controlling and abusive to the point where the victim has no confidence and becomes little more than an abused house dog.

The double standards and statistics being revealed, but ignored are genuinely jaw dropping.

i dont know the breakdown but i would tend to agree that your right

Calhoun wrote: »

Looks like the media is caught up on what it should be more outraged on the fact that the head of the EC wants to force gender balance of that Leo won't totally appoint a woman over Phil Hogan.

People then wonder why anti eu sentiment grows.

The indo don't employ spell checkers, do they? Their article is littered with errors including "Me Varadkar warmed businesses to prepare for Brexit. " :rolleyes:

Feminists always crying over what they don't have and ignore the fact that many women hold positions of power.