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Mount Argus parish records

  • 20-08-2015 12:43am
    #1
    Qualitymark
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    Are the parish records for Mount Argus in Dublin online?


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  • #2
    shanew
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    I dont believe Mount Argus was a parish.. what timeframe are you interested in ?

    "..constituted as a parish in 1974..." see here (dublindiocese.ie)


  • #3
    Qualitymark
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    My grandmother was baptised there in 1917. Can't find any record.


  • #4
    shanew
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    Qualitymark wrote: »
    My grandmother was baptised there in 1917. Can't find any record.

    for that timeframe I'd try Rathmines, or a civil cert - the NLI films for Rathmines cover up to 1906, the NLI site and the records on IrishGenealogy seem to cover the same range.

    for reference - these are the nearby parishes, all too 'recent' for NLI films :

    Harold's Cross - Constituted 1935 from Rathmines and a small section from Rathgar and Terenure
    Rathgar - Constituted in 1882 from Rathmines
    Terenure - Constituted in 1894 from Rathfarnham


  • #5
    pinkypinky
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    You could try calling them. I wanted info once on someone who put up a plaque in the church and they were very helpful on the phone.

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  • #6
    Qualitymark
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    shanew wrote: »
    for that timeframe I'd try Rathmines

    Tried. They said all their records had been sent to Rathmines.
    pinkypinky wrote: »
    You could try calling them.

    Tried Rathmines. They knew nothing of any Mount Argus records.

    A last hope was that they might somehow have found their way online.

    Surprising, seeing as they were the DMP church and are now the Garda church.


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  • #7
    pinkypinky
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    But did you call Mount Argus themselves?

    http://www.mountargusparish.ie/contact-us/

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • #8
    Qualitymark
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    pinkypinky wrote: »
    But did you call Mount Argus themselves?

    http://www.mountargusparish.ie/contact-us/

    I did. They said their records had been sent to Rathmines. Rathmines knows nothing of them.


  • #9
    Hermy
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    I'd get back onto Mount Argus, tell them what response you got from Rathmines, and maybe they can tell you who to contact.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • #10
    Qualitymark
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    I did; they didn't. Don't worry, I was just asking here in case the records had gone online and someone knew.


  • #11
    Hermy
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    Qualitymark wrote: »
    I did; they didn't. Don't worry, I was just asking here in case the records had gone online and someone knew.

    Sorry about that - it's frustrating the lack of help you received from them.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



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  • #12
    Qualitymark
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    Hermy wrote: »
    Sorry about that - it's frustrating the lack of help you received from them.

    They really weren't unhelpful, the records just seem to have dropped through a black hole somehow. Maybe they'll reappear online.


  • #13
    pinkypinky
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    I wonder if the Diocesan archives have any ideas? Their website says they don't have that particular parish but it's probably worth a phone call.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • #14
    shanew
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    can I just double check something I'm not clear on - you mentioned asking Rathmines about Mount Argus records, but have you looked through, or asked for a search, of the records for Rathmines ?

    Since Mt. Argus was effectively a chapel of ease for the parish, any records should have been noted in the Rathmines registers - usually transferred from notes made by the priest that carried out the baptism.


  • #15
    Qualitymark
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    shanew wrote: »
    can I just double check something I'm not clear on - you mentioned asking Rathmines about Mount Argus records, but have you looked through, or asked for a search, of the records for Rathmines ?

    Since Mt. Argus was effectively a chapel of ease for the parish, any records should have been noted in the Rathmines registers - usually transferred from notes made by the priest that carried out the baptism.

    Yes, and Rathmines have found another record for me, but they don't know anything about Mount Argus records. I was in a few times, thinking if I asked different people someone might know, but no, they know nothing of Mount Argus records.

    Originally I rang Mount Argus about this - I have the date and everything, there's even a card from the time, I know the name of the sponsor and the person being baptised. They said they had no records, and their records had been sent to Rathmines at some stage in recent years. Then I went to Rathmines (where I'd been to ask for other things) and they said they didn't have the Mount Argus records.

    It's odd; I also can't find my uncle's baptism - his parents were living in Baggot Street, so the baptism could have been in Haddington Road or in Rathmines, where his mother was staying with her mother after a difficult birth. No sign of the baptism anywhere - Joseph Plunkett was his godfather…


  • #16
    tabbey
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    Qualitymark - Lower Baggot Street was in the parish of Saint Andrew, Westland Row. I do not know if your relative was in Upper or Lower, but Lower has much more houses.
    As for Mount Argus, as Shanew has said, the records of baptisms there, were not Mount Argus records, they were Rathmines records. Asking for Mount Argus records will only confuse the register custodians.


  • #17
    Qualitymark
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    Thanks - Upper Baggot Street, unfortunately, near the hospital.

    It's a pity the Rathmines records aren't put online. I think I might have a better chance if I could search for myself.


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