Interesting trait of Irish people

ILoveYourVibes · 21-11-2020 11:07pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Strange thing about horses in Ireland, it's either the Traveller "class" (settled or not) or upper middle class that generally have a thing for horses... which are you?

middle class personally. Not sure why that would interest you though?

But no its actually across the board.

Irish people are horse people. The amount of breeders yards ...all equine sports.

We dominate british racing. And we are a tiny country. its unreal.

Its even bigger rurally.

21-11-2020 11:26pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

middle class personally. Not sure why that would interest you though?
.

Surely upper middle. I am firmly middle class and from a working class background and I know nobody who owns a horse, or has risen one. I know people who have ridden camels though. That was me, on a trip to Arabia. Wouldn't recommend. Horrible animals.

If you mean interest in the horses as in popping down to the bookies, then there is that.

Mad_maxx · 21-11-2020 11:33pm

almost saying exactly the opposite of what we mean when talking to people

a nation of straight talking -" tell it like it is " merchants , we aint

ILoveYourVibes · 21-11-2020 11:39pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Surely upper middle. .

ugh ...i hate to say it ..but you are prob right.

I suck ! I hate myself!

I am firmly middle class and from a working class background and I know nobody who owns a horse, or has risen one.

I do ..but horses are their business.

If you mean interest in the horses as in popping down to the bookies, then there is that

Good luck next flutter. And you have one up on me ..i have never ridden a camel.

22-11-2020 12:06am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

ugh ...i hate to say it ..but you are prob right.

I suck ! I hate myself!

We all have some privilege, dont hate yourself!

Good luck next flutter. And you have one up on me ..i have never ridden a camel.

Well not me but I have friends, cousins and others who bet on the horses. Mugs game.

I stick to the lottery :-p

MouldyApple · 22-11-2020 12:17am

Two faced.
I've noticed in my line of work, all about people to their face but would report them within minutes or cut the arse off them when they left.

ILoveYourVibes · 22-11-2020 12:24am

MouldyApple wrote: »

Two faced.
I've noticed in my line of work, all about people to their face but would report them within minutes or cut the arse off them when they left.

Yeah. I just to tend to avoid people i don't like. Its not being super rude but not disingenuous.

brummytom · 22-11-2020 1:29am

Eating dinner really late... do you just eat Gaviscon for pudding?

Purple Mountain · 22-11-2020 2:14am

brummytom wrote: »

Eating dinner really late... do you just eat Gaviscon for pudding?

Eh, we wat dinner at 1PM?
Spuds, bacon and cabbage.

22-11-2020 2:35am

miss.paula wrote: »

Unlike most of the western world , we do not suffer from white guilt.
We where **** upon by imperialism, and dont feel we have to atone for the white devils past transgressions, it make for a surprise when POC play the race card and paddy tells them to **** off.
The well know trait of the Irish hot temper and willingness to throw down will take the wind out of the sails of the POC who would normally take umbrage at being one upped in the victim stakes.

You couldn't be more wrong. We were knee deep in imperialism. An approx 1/3 of the British army at one stage was made up of Irish. We were as much a part of imperialism as the average Yorkshire, Cardiff or Glasgow lad.

History can be quite uncomfortable at times. Not least for black people where people of their own race were often the ones selling them to the white people.

Lots of Irish people decried the Easter rising. Lots of Nationalist tradition people in NI are happy with the status quo.

Its not as black or white as you think.

22-11-2020 2:45am

miss.paula wrote: »

Stay in Ireland and starve in misery, or join the British army and get food/paid

What did I say that was wrong? Uncomfortable maybe, but not wrong.

The reason the Irish joined the British army is the same reason Jock from Scotland joined, Taffy from Wales, and Jaime from Northern England, money and a bit of adventure away from very boring, largely subsistence lives.

22-11-2020 2:53am

miss.paula wrote: »

Yep, as i guessed, Anglo Irish apologist

So you're simply going to ignore and throw childish comments. I could be the 3rd Earl of snooty Castle and as its an anonymous forum I could simply lie.

Instead of trying to come up with a reason for what I'm saying debate the content. Unless you can't and need to hide behind childish insults.

22-11-2020 2:59am

miss.paula wrote: »

More proof that i hit the nail on the head.

As much as I'd love to engage with an intellect as obvious as yours I doubt you'll be here a long time under this username.

uch · 22-11-2020 3:01am

Is there an arguement here for some Cake?

22-11-2020 3:03am

uch wrote: »

Is there an arguement here for some Cake?

Only for afternoon tea, and only with pinkie up.

uch · 22-11-2020 3:38am

Deleted User wrote: »

Only for afternoon tea, and only with pinkie up.

You can stick yer pinkie where you like once we can have Cake

bassy · 22-11-2020 3:39am

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

Does this mean all Belgians are action movie stars?

Van damme

whisky_galore · 22-11-2020 10:30am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

So you're simply going to ignore and throw childish comments. I could be the 3rd Earl of snooty Castle and as its an anonymous forum I could simply lie.

Instead of trying to come up with a reason for what I'm saying debate the content. Unless you can't and need to hide behind childish insults.

You're dealing with the kind of people who couldn't imagine Irish men joining the likes of the Connaught Rangers, Dublin Fusiliers, Munster Fusiliers for any reason other than being a stock nationalist bogeyman; West Brit, traitor, whatever you want to call it.

People still have fingers plugging their ears going la la la over the Civil War. The next set of centenaries are going to make for some uncomfortable reading. Such folks can only understand the White hat/Black hat narrative of a cowboy movie.

dxhound2005 · 22-11-2020 10:46am

Deleted User wrote: »

Only for afternoon tea, and only with pinkie up.

Good to see pinkie (pinky) being used here along with afternoon tea. Good old British English word, not an "Americanism" as was claimed on another thread.

Gregor Samsa · 22-11-2020 10:47am

bassy wrote: »

Van damme

That was the joke.

mulbot · 22-11-2020 11:02am

A determined ability to only marry those from within their own town lands. :eek:

RandomViewer · 22-11-2020 2:26pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Surely upper middle. I am firmly middle class and from a working class background and I know nobody who owns a horse, or has risen one. I know people who have ridden camels though. That was me, on a trip to Arabia. Wouldn't recommend. Horrible animals.

If you mean interest in the horses as in popping down to the bookies, then there is that.

Depends where you are from in Ireland, horses would be kept by members of all sections of society in Donegal, same for dogs, the further south you go the more class barriers seem to appear or " notions of bigness" as we would call them.

vriesmays · 22-11-2020 3:09pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I think you're talking about a time when education was elitist.

If you cannot think of many Irish people of varied backgrounds that have had a global impact in the OPs categories you're highly unlikely to be a candidate yourself.

Most Irish with a global impact were of Protestant background. That's fact.

22-11-2020 3:19pm

:rolleyes:

vriesmays wrote: »

Most Irish with a global impact were of Protestant background. That's fact.

Shur, gwan... the floor is yours. Name them.

As I said, the ones you'll mention came from a time when education was for the wealthy, which was largely the protesrant landed class. But, do please name these people that were a product of Irish culture, these Irish people.

And if you feel the need to identify those by hair colour or those that were left handed fire away.

And should we claim the likes of Conan Doyle, just because of religion. :rollseyes:

dxhound2005 · 22-11-2020 3:24pm

If animal ownership is a trait, then we are more into cattle and sheep than horses.

vriesmays · 22-11-2020 3:31pm

Deleted User wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Shur, gwan... the floor is yours. Name them.

Bram Stoker
Samuel Beckett
George Bernard Shaw
Jonathan Swift
Iris Murdoch
WB Yeats

You're welcome.

22-11-2020 4:01pm

vriesmays wrote: »

Bram Stoker
Samuel Beckett
George Bernard Shaw
Jonathan Swift
Iris Murdoch
WB Yeats

You're welcome.

Are you related to Iris Murdoch?

James Joyce
Seamus Heaney
Maeve Binchy
Roddy Doyle
John Connolly
John Banville
Eoin Colfer

Maybe a bit modern for your taste, but renowned authors.

However, the authors you mentioned were of Ireland and considered themselves Irish.

22-11-2020 4:04pm

BTW, can't believe you left out Oscar, hence I named seven.

22-11-2020 4:13pm

To add, Vriesmays, its not surprising Ireland has such a strong artistic heritage. In Chieftain times the 'bard' was as noble a profession as that of clergy or lawyer. So, yeah, its been there for centuries.

EmmetSpiceland · 22-11-2020 4:26pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

To add, Vriesmays, its not surprising Ireland has such a strong artistic heritage. In Chieftain times the 'bard' was as noble a profession as that of clergy or lawyer. So, yeah, its been there for centuries.

And let’s not forget the noble braigetoír.

22-11-2020 4:35pm

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

And let’s not forget the noble braigetoír.

Indeed they eventually evolved to give us James Galway.

McGinniesta · 22-11-2020 6:08pm

I thought we were supposed to be drunk begrudgers who live in thatched cottages and wear leprachaun outfits and listen to tweedly deedly bejaysus begorrah music all day.

Interesting trait of Irish people

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