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The Running Master

  • 10-01-2014 8:52pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭


    I’ve decided to have another crack at keeping a log. As I’ve publicly announced that I’m going after the Irish M45 5k record of 15:22, I thought it only fair that I document my training and hold myself to account – publicly; at my age I should know better, especially given the current state of my fitness. Oh well.

    So, I was out for about 4 weeks during December – small problem with my achilles, peroneals, soleus, and a bit of P.F. to boot. Although it’s all pretty much sorted, there is some residual discomfort. So I need to be careful.

    Rather than just log the boring running stuff, I’m hoping to drop in a few accounts of some of my interesting life experiences. I’ve worked in the UK and Kenya as a physical therapist/business owner looking after many household names. I’ve also worked as a journalist, sub editor and editor on a national tabloid in Southern Africa – some great stuff from those days; I spent a day with Nelson Mandela. I went on to own a rather unsuccessful national tabloid in Cyprus – some great stories from my time there, especially concerning The Cypriot Mafia.

    To keep things from getting stale, I’ll drop in some anecdotes. Starting next week with, Linford Christie, Doping, The Banana, and Me - Nuff Respect!

    The running this week:
    Sunday – 8 miles; last 3 miles picked up the pace.
    Monday – 6 miles easy with 8x100m pick-ups
    Tuesday – 6 miles easy
    Wednesday - a.m. 6 miles easy p.m. 6 miles, incl 4 @ LT
    Thursday – 6 miles easy with Paddy the Kenyan – PtK’s training for the Tralee Marathon;)
    Friday – a.m. 6 miles easy + p.m. 6 miles moderate progression – picked it up from 2.5 miles to 5 miles. Felt laboured.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭barryoneill50


    Stazza wrote: »
    I’ve decided to have another crack at keeping a log. As I’ve publicly announced that I’m going after the Irish M45 5k record of 15:22, I thought it only fair that I document my training and hold myself to account – publicly; at my age I should know better, especially given the current state of my fitness. Oh well.

    So, I was out for about 4 weeks during December – small problem with my achilles, peroneals, soleus, and a bit of P.F. to boot. Although it’s all pretty much sorted, there is some residual discomfort. So I need to be careful.

    Rather than just log the boring running stuff, I’m hoping to drop in a few accounts of some of my interesting life experiences. I’ve worked in the UK and Kenya as a physical therapist/business owner looking after many household names. I’ve also worked as a journalist, sub editor and editor on a national tabloid in Southern Africa – some great stuff from those days; I spent a day with Nelson Mandela. I went on to own a rather unsuccessful national tabloid in Cyprus – some great stories from my time there, especially concerning The Cypriot Mafia.

    To keep things from getting stale, I’ll drop in some anecdotes. Starting next week with, Linford Christie, Doping, The Banana, and Me - Nuff Respect!

    The running this week:
    Sunday – 8 miles; last 3 miles picked up the pace.
    Monday – 6 miles easy with 8x100m pick-ups
    Tuesday – 6 miles easy
    Wednesday - a.m. 6 miles easy p.m. 6 miles, incl 4 @ LT
    Thursday – 6 miles easy with Paddy the Kenyan – PtK’s training for the Tralee Marathon;)
    Friday – a.m. 6 miles easy + p.m. 6 miles moderate progression – picked it up from 2.5 miles to 5 miles. Felt laboured.
    Excellent, looking forward to following your log, good luck with that goal...respect....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Definitely a log to keep an eye on.

    (And a person to get drunk to hear the real stories :) )

    In all seriousness, that's a bold goal to throw out there.
    How far off the goal are you? What paces would the above runs be done at?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    Thanks AMK.

    If I were to even smell a pint I'd have no chance with that lofty goal of 15:22. Been off the drink for over 2 years. On the last final warning from the wife.

    In November I'd say I was in and around 16 shape: I did a local 10k and went the wrong way twice and twanged my leg. But the lad who won the 5k (16:34) ran the first two miles with us before we turned off. That's what makes me think I was in about 16 shape.

    I'm a good few pounds overweight and need to get them off sharpish. But I don't think it'll take long to get back in half decent base shape. Probably in about 17:30 shape at the moment.

    I have a Forerunner 110 but I only use it to measure runs. The watch is kept for workouts. I run by feel. But I'd say the easy runs range between 7:15-7:45 pace. The LT run was probably 6 pace - normally 5:20-5:30. Tonight's progression probably got down to 5:40 pace but not for long: I didn't want to cross over the threshold.

    So, give me a few weeks and I'll have some interesting session (runs that is) to post.

    You've got me gasping for a pint...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    Slight hangover from imaginary pints.

    Saturday 11th Jan.

    Beautiful morning for an easy 6 miles out and back along the canal towpath. Sun shining, the rowers out on the canal, the snap and swoosh of oars, lovely ladies out walking and jogging (all of them, including the really old uns, giving me cheeky little looks that suggest desire: what can I say? Still got it). Legs were a bit tired but nothing serious.

    AIS and some dynamic stuff before the run.
    Myrtles and a few extras, V.R. Foam rolling, and AIS, after the run.

    Summary.
    56 miles for the week – 9 runs
    Two moderate progressions
    One LT
    Two double days
    One session of 8x100m strides in an easy run

    Plan for next week
    Add on two extra doubles
    Increase the long run from 8-10 miles
    Keep the two progression runs, the LT run, and the strides
    More structured approach to the strength stuff
    Mileage: about 70 – 11 runs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    AIS? Myrtles?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    RayCun wrote: »
    AIS? Myrtles?

    AIS - Assisted/Active isolated stretching - check out Ger Hartmann's 'Hope On A Rope' And Wharton on AIS - change your life.:)

    Myrtle and other good stuff, check out Jay Johnson's site.

    Gotta learn how to do links:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    To create a link, go to the site you want to link to, and copy the address from the navigation bar. Then come back to your post and paste the address in
    http://nikerunning.nike.com/nikeplus/us/v2/en_US/pdf/myrtl.pdf

    the fancier version is to have a word in your post, myrtl, highlight it, and then click the little icon over your post that shows a little world and a link. Then paste the address into the dialog box and click OK.

    then you can progress to linking videos ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    Great stuff, Ray. Thanks very much. I'm gonna be linking away like a good-un. Can't wait to show the kids that their old fella isn't a balatron/luddite. You've made my day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    Here's a link to Jake Krong's blog: He's a 1:05 half and 2:20:41 marathon guy. I liaise with him and help out with some suggestions for workouts. His blog's great, with loads of good stuff. You should really take a read.

    There are quite a few guys on The Fast Running Blog that I help. Many of them have gone from 3:30/4hrs down to 2:30/2:40/2:50 in pretty quick time. But I'll post their details another time - just want to ask if they mind.

    Many of the people on The Fast Running Blog are from Utah and many are Mormons. They are decent people and don't shove their beliefs on you. It's a good site to have a look around.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    Jakers, it worked. Have it. Who's the daddy?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Stazza wrote: »
    Jakers, it worked. Have it. Who's the daddy?

    Ray?

    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    Sunday 12th Jan

    10 miles relaxed. Let the wife go out for her little pootle first – had nothing to do with the rain. How gallant.

    Nice run apart from trying to avoid the puddles and flooded roads. Felt a bit more like I was running rather than recovering from injury. My right leg feels much improved and I’m hopeful that I’ll be able to cope with the harder stuff that I’ll be introducing in February.

    AIS and a few dynamic thingamajigs before the run.
    AIS and some clams, reverse clams and other flummery.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    Monday 13th Jan
    a.m. 7 miles easy with Paddy the Kenyan. PtK needed a recovery run and a bit of Stazza’s wit, charm, and modesty. I told him the Linford story, which I will post later in the week – made him chuckle. Good company and a great run.

    p.m. 6 miles with strides. Did the first three miles at a fair pace and then dropped out some old man drills before doing 6x100m strides – shouldn’t have bothered. Left TFL complained, so I had to keep the pace easy but was able to focus on form.

    AIS and a few dynamic drills before both runs.
    AIS after both runs. Planned to do some functional strength work after the evening run but opted to release TFL, gracilis, and sartorius. Feel much better now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    "but opted to release TFL, gracilis, and sartorius. Feel much better now."


    Jesus is this a running log or have stumbled into some weird medical blog by mistake :)

    TbL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    I was going to be clever and respond with something about Kripke's possible worlds but I confused myself. Needless to say, I thought your post was very funny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    And I was going to originally post that I though I had wandered into some weird S&M blog but I thought it a tad impolite on my first post in your blog :)

    Good luck with your training

    TbL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    And I was going to originally post that I though I had wandered into some weird S&M blog but I thought it a tad impolite on my first post in your blog :)

    Good luck with your training

    TbL

    I've just been over your place and left a few appropriately placed thanks:P
    Watch that 'tibia'. You seem to be going well...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,762 ✭✭✭✭ecoli


    Jesus is this a running log or have stumbled into some weird medical blog by mistake :)

    TbL

    Probably the truest quote I every heard was "As a runner you must master three things; 1) your fitness, 2)your ability to push through mental and physical blocks holding you back and 3) how to cope with injuries because each one is going to crop up :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    Tuesday 14th Jan
    a.m. 6.5 miles nice and ez in the rain. One of the joys of dropping out the first run of the day at 9:40 in the morning stems from the knowledge that most of the population is thinking about the mundanity of their existence and dealing with the stress of that old Toad, work; while I, on other hand, am able to pootle around the streets and experience the beauty and joy of living a life less ordinary.

    p.m. Blinking miserable 6.5 miles in the dark and rain. Left the old lady and kids eating a roast beef dinner that I prepared for them. I, on the other hand, didn’t sit down to my rocket, baby leaf spinach, and watercress salad with salmon and sweet potatoes (mashed with a handy sprinkling of cinnamon) until whatever o clock. Oh why does this life have to be such a slog?

    13 miles. AIS before and after both runs. Strength work after morning run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,184 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    This thread is like the twilight zone!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    You must have had the full Irish before the morning run :)

    TbL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    Wednesday 15th Jan

    Wanted to do an 8 mile progression run today, but I’m not ready for that, yet. Ended up doing the 8 but it was more like a good old fashioned steady run. The legs are struggling to cope with the doubles, the slight increase in mileage, and the strength work. Started out nice and slow and could feel that the legs were heavy etc. got to 2.5 miles and increased the pace. I knew the progression run wasn’t happening. So, I just kept the pace honest up until the 6 mile mark and then eased off the throttle.

    AIS and some dynamic stuff before the run
    AIS after the run.

    Been thinking a bit about goals for this year and next and I think I’m coming around to the idea of banging out a marathon next year. I’m sticking to this year’s goal of trying to break the Irish M45-49 5k record – although that is going to be a tough one. But I know if I can stay healthy I should be in and around that shape at some point later in the year. This would mean that I'd be attacking something in the 2:25-2:30 range.

    I’d like to fuse the 5k training into an overall marathon plan for next year. This is doable and would fit with the Stazza System. So, I need to pick a marathon for 2015, when I’ll be 50!

    An idea that I had today when I was out running was to see if anybody would be interested in having a crack at a marathon using the Stazza System, which I will post soon enough. I’m thinking about opening it up to a fixed number of places (no charge or any of that Sh!te) and having a group of different abilities. It’s a 12(ish) month package and would mean a spring/early summer marathon.

    Here’s an early idea for the package: an overall plan, specific weekly schedules, nutritional support, supplementary strength and injury prevention, motivational stuff, input from several elites and sub elites, and a very special ‘treat’.

    Part of the plan involves only wearing Garmins and watches for certain elements of the training – so there would be no places for the tick-tock boffins. Also, it would be for runners who are serious about making substantial improvement! This doesn't mean that you need to run 100 mpw.

    I’m still stewing on the idea – it’s come from the discussion on T Runner’s thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Interested to hear about the 'Stazza System', particularly as you recommend another marathon 10 weeks out of the goal race. I am training for London in April (sub 3 goal, PB 3:04) and am planning a 'steady' marathon (3:20-3:24 or there abouts) 11 weeks out and then a 50k at the same pace as the Marathon 8 weeks out (i.e. sub 4 hrs).

    Would you see this as ok considering I have done a good few marthons and ultras before? Do you reckon it would be more beneficial to run the Marathon a bit quicker; (i.e. 3:10ish), I read on T-runners log about you recommending a Marathon at 103% about 10 weeks out...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭pconn062


    If I ran marathons I'd take your arm off for that offer! You don't fancy editing the Stazza system to suit say a 1500m by any chance?! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    Sounds interesting, but I'm committed to my two marathons this year. Could do a 12 month build-up for a 2016 marathon, so I'd be curious to see how you approach it...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭statss


    Stazza,

    Sounds interesting, I'm currently planning on doing solely HADD type training for 2014 with a view to my next marathon in spring 2015....but I'd be very interested in a system from someone like yourself for sure!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭ThebitterLemon


    Stazza wrote: »
    Wednesday 15th Jan

    Wanted to do an 8 mile progression run today, but I’m not ready for that, yet. Ended up doing the 8 but it was more like a good old fashioned steady run. The legs are struggling to cope with the doubles, the slight increase in mileage, and the strength work. Started out nice and slow and could feel that the legs were heavy etc. got to 2.5 miles and increased the pace. I knew the progression run wasn’t happening. So, I just kept the pace honest up until the 6 mile mark and then eased off the throttle.

    AIS and some dynamic stuff before the run
    AIS after the run.

    Been thinking a bit about goals for this year and next and I think I’m coming around to the idea of banging out a marathon next year. I’m sticking to this year’s goal of trying to break the Irish M45-49 5k record – although that is going to be a tough one. But I know if I can stay healthy I should be in and around that shape at some point later in the year. This would mean that I'd be attacking something in the 2:25-2:30 range.

    I’d like to fuse the 5k training into an overall marathon plan for next year. This is doable and would fit with the Stazza System. So, I need to pick a marathon for 2015, when I’ll be 50!

    An idea that I had today when I was out running was to see if anybody would be interested in having a crack at a marathon using the Stazza System, which I will post soon enough. I’m thinking about opening it up to a fixed number of places (no charge or any of that Sh!te) and having a group of different abilities. It’s a 12(ish) month package and would mean a spring/early summer marathon.

    Here’s an early idea for the package: an overall plan, specific weekly schedules, nutritional support, supplementary strength and injury prevention, motivational stuff, input from several elites and sub elites, and a very special ‘treat’.

    Part of the plan involves only wearing Garmins and watches for certain elements of the training – so there would be no places for the tick-tock boffins. Also, it would be for runners who are serious about making substantial improvement! This doesn't mean that you need to run 100 mpw.

    I’m still stewing on the idea – it’s come from the discussion on T Runner’s thread.


    Is this the "naturist" part of you plan :)

    Being serious, thats a fantastic challenge/ambition you have set yourself, and I really hope you nail it.

    I'll be reading this log with avid interest.

    Best of luck.

    TbL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    menoscemo wrote: »
    Interested to hear about the 'Stazza System', particularly as you recommend another marathon 10 weeks out of the goal race. I am training for London in April (sub 3 goal, PB 3:04) and am planning a 'steady' marathon (3:20-3:24 or there abouts) 11 weeks out and then a 50k at the same pace as the Marathon 8 weeks out (i.e. sub 4 hrs).

    Would you see this as ok considering I have done a good few marthons and ultras before? Do you reckon it would be more beneficial to run the Marathon a bit quicker; (i.e. 3:10ish), I read on T-runners log about you recommending a Marathon at 103% about 10 weeks out...

    I'd need to have a good read of your training before giving any specific advice.

    I wouldn't necessarily recommend a marathon at 3% slower than marathon pace 10 weeks out. Jake has a huge aerobic base with many years of banging out 110-130 mpw and that's with some serious quality work thrown into the mixer too. I'd be more inclined for somebody looking to go sub 3 to be looking at doing a 24 miler with 18-22 miles at 3% slower than pmp 6 weeks out. This would allow for adequate recovery time and give a super boost to the aerobic system. But this is not for everybody.

    The idea of doing a 50k would also give a super boost to the aerobic system. Again, this would depend on the runner. To do both a marathon and a 50k might lead to staleness/injury. It's difficult to say. I'll have a good look at your log and give you my 2 cents worth. Hope this helps/gets you thinking.:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    pconn062 wrote: »
    If I ran marathons I'd take your arm off for that offer! You don't fancy editing the Stazza system to suit say a 1500m by any chance?! ;)

    Ah, I've been watching you closely and can see how keen you are to improve. When I was a teenager I went from 4:30 - 4:00 (1500) over a 12 week training spell with a very limited base. I'd been running 2 years, but mainly pretending.

    If you get stuck into MD training with any amount of seriousness you can make big gains quickly - if you have the right make-up and I don't mean lipstick. Once you get in and around 4 mins for 1500m the training has to be much more consistent and tailored to make good gains. I'll have a look and happily help where I can.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Stazza wrote: »
    I'd need to have a good read of your training before giving any specific advice.

    I wouldn't necessarily recommend a marathon at 3% slower than marathon pace 10 weeks out. Jake has a huge aerobic base with many years of banging out 110-130 mpw and that's with some serious quality work thrown into the mixer too. I'd be more inclined for somebody looking to go sub 3 to be looking at doing a 24 miler with 18-22 miles at 3% slower than pmp 6 weeks out. This would allow for adequate recovery time and give a super boost to the aerobic system. But this is not for everybody.

    The idea of doing a 50k would also give a super boost to the aerobic system. Again, this would depend on the runner. To do both a marathon and a 50k might lead to staleness/injury. It's difficult to say. I'll have a good look at your log and give you my 2 cents worth. Hope this helps/gets you thinking.:)

    I don't really keep a training log anymore :(. Yeah i think a fastish marathon and a steady 50k would be too much so I'll just keep to plan of running both at 7:40/mile (ish). I have done this kind of thing a few times before, in fact of my previous 3 Marathon PB's I set 2 of them the week after a 30+ mile run (the first of which was a pretty hard 50k)....ok the marathons weren't my goal race (conn Ultra was) at the time but still....

    I have a Half planned for 4 week out that would be run at PMP (as part of a 20-22 miler) but I am committing the cardinal error of racing another half 7 weeks out :o.


    Thanks for your advice all the same!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    menoscemo wrote: »
    I don't really keep a training log anymore :(. Yeah i think a fastish marathon and a steady 50k would be too much so I'll just keep to plan of running both at 7:40/mile (ish). I have done this kind of thing a few times before, in fact of my previous 3 Marathon PB's I set 2 of them the week after a 30+ mile run (the first of which was a pretty hard 50k)....ok the marathons weren't my goal race (conn Ultra was) at the time but still....

    I have a Half planned for 4 week out that would be run at PMP (as part of a 20-22 miler) but I am committing the cardinal error of racing another half 7 weeks out :o.


    Thanks for your advice all the same!!

    I wouldn't worry too much about doing a half 7 weeks out - I'm sure you'll be fine.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    Stazza wrote: »
    Monday 13th Jan
    ...I told him the Linford story, which I will post later in the week ...


    You still owe us that one!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    You still owe us that one!

    Once the kids are tucked in bed tonight, I will begin...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,548 ✭✭✭Marthastew


    I spotted your name on the ARist in the spotlight thread and I was keen to see who the new yoda/tergat is..... definitely worth my trip over here to your log!
    Very best of luck with your goal and training.
    The Stazza System sounds very interesting... I'm off now to research a good 2015 Spring marathon...........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Marthastew wrote: »
    .
    The Stazza System sounds very interesting... I'm off now to research a good 2015 Spring marathon...........

    Is Maria Mc not good enough for you anymore? :P


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,642 ✭✭✭TRR


    Stazza wrote: »
    Once the kids are tucked in bed tonight, I will begin...

    There had better be hookers, cocaine, rock 'n' roll, Linford and an all mighty gang bang. This story has been hyped up more than the latest release of an Apple product ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    Marthastew wrote: »
    I spotted your name on the ARist in the spotlight thread and I was keen to see who the new yoda/tergat is..... definitely worth my trip over here to your log!
    Very best of luck with your goal and training.
    The Stazza System sounds very interesting... I'm off now to research a good 2015 Spring marathon...........

    Thanks, but I think you've mistaken me for somebody else - most people, when they refer to me, would say, 'Yada, yada, yada,' rather than 'yoda'.

    'Did you see what I did there, Pinky?'
    'No Brain.'
    'I've duped them pinky. All of them.'
    'How Brain?'
    'They will think I'm a beautiful human being, humble and modest to boot.'
    'Yes, Brain, I see.'
    'Now then Pinky, I've lulled them into a false sense of security. We can now take over The Boards.'
    'How Brain?'
    'Well Pinky, when I start my gig tonight, you can start killing them, one by one.'
    'What gig?'
    'I'm doing Bedtime Story with Stazza.'
    'That's very clever Brain, but will they suspect anything?'
    'No Pinky, they're runners - self obsessed; they'll be too busy foam rolling their ITB's and admiring their skeletal frames - they'll be too preoccupied to notice you. And they'll be under the spell of my magic words.'
    'How nice Brain. What's your story called?'
    'Good Christie Hunting.'
    'Brilliant Brain. Brilliant.'
    'And when they're all dead, we'll bring in Paddy the Kenyan.'
    'Is he your imaginary friend, the one training for the Tralee Marathon?'
    'He's real. Now, scoot.'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭barryoneill50


    :D:D:D
    Stazza wrote: »
    Thanks, but I think you've mistaken me for somebody else - most people, when they refer to me, would say, 'Yada, yada, yada,' rather than 'yoda'.

    'Did you see what I did there, Pinky?'
    'No Brain.'
    'I've duped them pinky. All of them.'
    'How Brain?'
    'They will think I'm a beautiful human being, humble and modest to boot.'
    'Yes, Brain, I see.'
    'Now then Pinky, I've lulled them into a false sense of security. We can now take over The Boards.'
    'How Brain?'
    'Well Pinky, when I start my gig tonight, you can start killing them, one by one.'
    'What gig?'
    'I'm doing Bedtime Story with Stazza.'
    'That's very clever Brain, but will they suspect anything?'
    'No Pinky, they're runners - self obsessed; they'll be too busy foam rolling their ITB's and admiring their skeletal frames - they'll be too preoccupied to notice you. And they'll be under the spell of my magic words.'
    'How nice Brain. What's your story called?'
    'Good Christie Hunting.'
    'Brilliant Brain. Brilliant.'
    'And when they're all dead, we'll bring in Paddy the Kenyan.'
    'Is he your imaginary friend, the one training for the Tralee Marathon?'
    'He's real. Now, scoot.'
    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 617 ✭✭✭pa4


    Is AIS normal static stretching or foam rolling type stretching?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭pconn062


    pa4 wrote: »
    Is AIS normal static stretching or foam rolling type stretching?

    I've googled that already!

    http://www.hartmann-international.com/Articles/5/Hope-on-a-rope.aspx


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,762 ✭✭✭✭ecoli


    pa4 wrote: »
    Is AIS normal static stretching or foam rolling type stretching?

    It would be closer to static stretching but would be more developmental than maintenance with regards a muscles range of movement. You are basically using a rope/ band to stretch the muscle beyond its normal range of movement in order to retrain the sensory receptors in the muscle to allow increased range of movement.

    Edit: You need to engage your antagonistic muscles to allow extended range of movement


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 617 ✭✭✭pa4


    ecoli wrote: »
    It would be closer to static stretching but would be more developmental than maintenance with regards a muscles range of movement. You are basically using a rope/ band to stretch the muscle beyond its normal range of movement in order to retrain the sensory receptors in the muscle to allow increased range of movement.

    Would you do it straight after a run or could you just do it in the evening?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    Good Christie Hunting

    In Memoriam - Dr Bernard Henry 1965-2007

    Without fail, every Tuesday and Friday lunchtime Dr Bernard Henry would saunter into the clinic, strip down to his boxers, adopt the prone position on the treatment couch, and enjoy the pleasure of Stazza’s masterful hands. Bernard never paid for a massage or treatment. Not because he was 6”6’ and a good bit more, nor was it because he was an elite 200m runner for Thames Valley Harriers. To be in the presence of Bernard Henry was recompense enough for any service provided. A beautiful man.

    But on this day, I witnessed a darker side of this beautiful man, a side that would have made Mike Tyson quake in his little black boxing booties and think twice before accepting a challenge to a fight to the death. And as we all know, everything is about fights to the death and arm wrestling.

    Working on Bernard was always a bit of a wrestle for me. The muscularity of the man and the size of his limbs made it difficult to work on him, especially given the fact that I’m a mere 5”7’. Granted, because of my skills in the noble art of pugilism, you’d want me on your side in a tear-up. All the same, Bernard was tough to work on.

    When I close my eyes and try to recall the events of the day, I see Bernard’s beautiful black body glistening in the sunlight; the soft scent of grape seed oil inhabits my nostrils and the smoothness of his skin soothes my mind as I begin with effleurage. Above his head, a fuss of dust mites frolic and skirr. And if a genie were to suddenly appear and transmute me into one of the mites, I suspect their soft whispers would laud the muscularity and unspoken ease of the man.

    As my hands move from effleurage to petrissage we talk about many things. Maybe Nietzsche, maybe Keats, possibly U.S. history; he loved a good oxymoron. Whatever about the warm up, the conversation definitely moved onto British Athletics.

    ‘Who do you prefer, Coe or Christie?’
    ‘Coe, without a doubt,’ I say.
    ‘Why?’

    I go on to expound my opinions of Christie, which are merely founded on reports in newspapers and magazines that state certain things have been proven.

    Slowly, he turns on the bed. I take my hands away and think, what’s this all about. The mites skedaddle. The sun disappears behind a cloud and a chill fills the room. I study his face. White teeth that would shame an American. Eyebrows that hint that this is a man that takes male grooming seriously. His eyes have a look that cast a spell you’d imagine only the devil Himself could cast. This is not the icy stare of respect and fear that fighters meet in the centre of the ring. There’s a vacancy in his eyes that suggest he has the answers to questions he hasn’t even asked, yet.

    ‘Linford’s my best friend.’


    To be continued.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    pa4 wrote: »
    Is AIS normal static stretching or foam rolling type stretching?

    If you look up 'Hope on a rope' the a good article by Ger Hartmann that explains it pretty well. I do before and after all runs, without fail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,184 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    Seriously man, you should copyright this thread!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    Thursday 16th Jan

    a.m. 7 miles with Paddy the Kenyan. Legs felt much better and I’m pretty confident that the injury/tweak is now 100%. Kept the pace nice and ez. Paddy was mullered after a monster session the previous day – he’s now replaced Thomas the Mod as the favourite to win the Tralee marathon.

    p.m. 6.5 progression. Decided to give it a bit more of an effort. Started out very slow –probably 9 min pace and gradually and smoothly (apologies for the adverbs) moved through the gears. Probably got up to LT for the final mile. Thought about moving on to 5k pace and then on to 3k pace for the final 2 mins but erred on the side of caution. Very pleased with how things are progressing. Although I’m a long way off from 15:22 shape, I’m feeling pretty good about my chances.

    Friday 17th Jan

    a.m. 6 miles ez. The old lady had the day off and she headed out for her 6 miler and then I went out about 10 mins later. The wife’s too embarrassed to run with me – she knows I’ll mess about…

    So when I was approaching the half way point of my out back along the canal route, I spotted a little lady striding out like a good un – giving it root-toot. Ecky thump, I thought, this little treacle looks like she might be worth a cheeky little hello. As she got closer, I realised it was the old lady. I dropped to the ground and started doing push ups. She stopped and said,

    ‘What on earth are you doing.’

    I kept banging them out

    ‘Would you ever stop that nonsense. Quit now. I want you to quit, now!'

    I rolled over and through clenched teeth I spat out, ‘I got no where else to go.’

    p.m. 6 miles at good clip out and back along the canal. Feeling good.

    AIS and all the malarkey before and after all runs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,762 ✭✭✭✭ecoli


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 784 ✭✭✭Stazza


    :)
    'Did you see that, Pinky?'
    'Yes, Brain.'
    'Next Thursday, during Bedtime Story with Stazza, get that balatron first.'
    'Yes, Brain.'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,642 ✭✭✭TRR


    Hi stazza. Is that 15.22 record track or road? When do you think you will be fit enough to try and chase it? Any build up races? It's a very lofty target, what are your recent 5k times like, I seen you mentioned a 10k in another log but that was from 2000 I think.


  • Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭oldrunner


    Irish Masters records are officiated by the Irish Masters Athletics associaton (IMAA). They are available at http://www.irishmastersathletics.com/index.asp
    The o45 mens' track record is held by Jim McNamara at 14:48.4 set back in 1984. Mick Traynor holds the o45 road record at 15:22. The o50 records are 15:15.3 track and 16:30 road. However, the road record is regularly beaten (Gerry Doyle ran 16:16 in Jingle Bells and a similar time in a race earler this year). You have to apply to have your record confirmed, so some records don't get updated.


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