Premier League Darts 2014

KevIRL · 31-12-2013 12:49am #1

Barry Hearn confirmed that the 10 players for the Premier League will be announced on Sky on Jan 1st after the World Final

My guess

Taylor
MvG
Lewis
Whitlock
Wright
Wade
Thornton
Anderson
Barney
Chizzy

Newton, Hamilton both have chances too. Think that Sky would have loved to get Hybrechts in but he didnt do enough at the Worlds

ArmaniJeanss · 31-12-2013 1:15am

Anderson is close enough - I think he will get in alright, though the fact that he is down to number 18 in the world now may raise some ire amongst the other players. He's very far away from being in on merit though his game against MVG helps his case.

These are the latest rankings with just the winning finalists prizemoney left to be added.
http://www.dartsdatabase.co.uk/Rankings.aspx

Taylor
MvG
Lewis
Whitlock
Wright
Wade
Anderson
Barney
Chizzy

Sky to decide which of Thornton/Newton/Hamilton is least boring for the final place.
Thornton to get it. Hey I've boringly come up with the same 10.

sc86 · 31-12-2013 1:25am

how the **** is chizzy no 5 in worlds

anderson is a cert to get in
wonder will they expand to 12 to keep everybody happy

statto25 · 31-12-2013 1:36am

sc86 wrote: »

how the **** is chizzy no 5 in worlds

anderson is a cert to get in
wonder will they expand to 12 to keep everybody happy

PDC tweeted that the the ten players will be announced after the world final so no twelve this year.

mdwexford · 31-12-2013 3:53am

Say the 10 you named look likely Kev.

Only one I'd like to see in not there is Ian White but I don't know who I'd take out.

Barney but he's still a big draw or Thornton but he did well in it last year.

Degag · 31-12-2013 4:51am

Hankey is a possibility. Not a huge one but has a chance IMO.

mackeire · 31-12-2013 9:06am

Degag wrote: »

Hankey is a possibility. Not a huge one but has a chance IMO.

Is he not going back to the bdo?

sc86 · 31-12-2013 4:31pm

Degag wrote: »

Hankey is a possibility. Not a huge one but has a chance IMO.

hes dark dark horse alright

he has said hes giving pdc good shot this year

mdwexford · 31-12-2013 4:42pm

He has no chance.

He's ranked 88th in the world and doesn't have the game or temperament for the week to week grind of the Premier League.

Say the players would go on strike if he got a wildcard.

sc86 · 31-12-2013 4:52pm

mdwexford wrote: »

He has no chance.

He's ranked 88th in the world and doesn't have the game or temperament for the week to week grind of the Premier League.

Say the players would go on strike if he got a wildcard.

it would be wrong but its all about selling tickets
barney does not deserve to be in it either but he will

Necro · 31-12-2013 5:04pm

Is it not six wildcards now and the top four? I honestly can't see chisnall in the premier league after his dire performance at the worlds. Money talks, and a Smith/Taylor rematch is more likely imo.
I think webster might have an outside chance too
Newton has to go in after appearing last year and making the quarters. Boring but deserves it much more than chisnall, hamilton, thornton or even barney (but he sells tickets)

KevIRL · 31-12-2013 5:08pm

sc86 wrote: »

it would be wrong but its all about selling tickets
barney does not deserve to be in it either but he will

Tickets are mostly sold already

KevIRL · 31-12-2013 5:10pm

Necrominus wrote: »

Is it not six wildcards now and the top four? I honestly can't see chisnall in the premier league after his dire performance at the worlds. Money talks, and a Smith/Taylor rematch is more likely imo.
I think webster might have an outside chance too
Newton has to go in after appearing last year and making the quarters. Boring but deserves it much more than chisnall, hamilton, thornton or even barney (but he sells tickets)

4 wildcards selected by PDC, 2 wildcards selected by Sky plus the top 4.

There was some rumours that James Wade was considering some time out from the game which could open another slot

Necro · 31-12-2013 5:15pm

KevIRL wrote: »

4 wildcards selected by PDC, 2 wildcards selected by Sky plus the top 4.

There was some rumours that James Wade was considering some time out from the game which could open another slot

Ah I see. White is shoe-in one way or another. It seems awful hard to climb the rankings in the PDC, but easy to slip way back! Anderson is better than 18th in the world surely, has chisnall even won anything of note this year?

Degag · 31-12-2013 5:21pm

mdwexford wrote: »

He has no chance.

He's ranked 88th in the world and doesn't have the game or temperament for the week to week grind of the Premier League.

Say the players would go on strike if he got a wildcard.

He definitely has a chance for the simple reason that Sky have 2 wildcards. They will pick these on the basis of how many viewers they will gain and Hankey would win way more viewers than the likes of Newton, White, Hamilton etc regardless of world ranking.

If he did anything of note, just getting to the semi's of a tournie this year, he'd probably be a shoo in.

KevIRL · 31-12-2013 5:23pm

Necrominus wrote: »

Ah I see. White is shoe-in one way or another. It seems awful hard to climb the rankings in the PDC, but easy to slip way back! Anderson is better than 18th in the world surely, has chisnall even won anything of note this year?

White? Doubt he will get in at all tbh.

Chisnall has a high ranking and will make it I reckon

sc86 · 31-12-2013 5:34pm

not a hope of white being in it, more chance of ollie croft getting a wildcard

Necro · 31-12-2013 6:29pm

KevIRL wrote: »

White? Doubt he will get in at all tbh.

Chisnall has a high ranking and will make it I reckon

Sorry, I meant Wright! No I wouldn't see White making it now but again with Chisnall he simply wouldn't deserve it imo.

ArmaniJeanss · 31-12-2013 9:08pm

Necrominus wrote: »

Sorry, I meant Wright! No I wouldn't see White making it now but again with Chisnall he simply wouldn't deserve it imo.

Not sure why you are putting White in the same sentence as Chisnail.
Chizzy is miles ahead of him, 2 wins on the Players Tour this year (£10K winner events so no small cheese) plus another 6 quarter or semi final appearances, and on the TV events he was finalist in the Grand Prix in Dublin, quarter finalist in the World MatchPlay, and won out in Germany.

To talk of there being 10 players more deserving of a place ahead of him is, to be honest, clueless.

Necro · 31-12-2013 9:59pm

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Not sure why you are putting White in the same sentence as Chisnail.
Chizzy is miles ahead of him, 2 wins on the Players Tour this year (£10K winner events so no small cheese) plus another 6 quarter or semi final appearances, and on the TV events he was finalist in the Grand Prix in Dublin, quarter finalist in the World MatchPlay, and won out in Germany.

To talk of there being 10 players more deserving of a place ahead of him is, to be honest, clueless.

I have already stated I made a mistake. I was speaking of Wright - the World finalist? I haven't been impressed with Chisnall for a while to be honest, and Sky and the PDC are going to want to see ratings - not quality players. Sure you could argue Barney shouldn't have been in the Premier League a couple of times in recent years if we're talking quality - but again, ticket sales may dip as he is still one of the most popular players on tour.

chippy81 · 31-12-2013 10:27pm

taylor, van gerwen, Whitlock, Lewis, Wright, Wade, Barney chisnall, Thornton, Kim huybrechts

Anderson too far down rankings and blows hot and cold, Hamilton will lose a load of his ranking money from 2 years ago, Newton not much of a draw,
More people will probably tune in to see
Huybrechts girlfriend than anything else

01-01-2014 10:37am

I know this might sound strange, but Anderson and his shirts, Wright and his new colourful clothes to go with the hair thing he's been doing for years, I wonder if they had an eye on the Prem League when they signed up to those deals? Of course it's sponsorship, but presume there are more restrained offers out there. Maybe they figure that if they were in or around the mark, this would make them more memorable for spectators. Course Wright has stomped his way through on performances anyway, and maybe Anderson has fallen too far off the pace. But maybe both figured if they were in the 9th, 10th ranking, this would be the "hook"?

sc86 · 01-01-2014 2:05pm

are you drunk conor?

KevIRL · 01-01-2014 2:59pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I know this might sound strange, but Anderson and his shirts, Wright and his new colourful clothes to go with the hair thing he's been doing for years, I wonder if they had an eye on the Prem League when they signed up to those deals? Of course it's sponsorship, but presume there are more restrained offers out there. Maybe they figure that if they were in or around the mark, this would make them more memorable for spectators. Course Wright has stomped his way through on performances anyway, and maybe Anderson has fallen too far off the pace. But maybe both figured if they were in the 9th, 10th ranking, this would be the "hook"?

Definitely with regards to Wright, and I think Nicholson has the right idea with the 'baddie' schtick. Unfortunately he doesnt have the game to back it up where as Wright does with the flamboyant-ness

celt262 · 01-01-2014 4:54pm

Taylor, Van gerwen, Whitlock, Lewis, Wright, Wade, Barney, Chisnall, Yaya Toure, Kolo Toure

01-01-2014 6:44pm

sc86 wrote: »

are you drunk conor?

Not at all, what's wrong with suggesting that players are dramatically flamboyant because it gives them an angle when it comes to the wild cards in the Prem League? Especially players like Wright and Anderson who may well have thought they'd be "on the brink" around now. I remember a few thinking that Mardles shirts and crowd pleasing antics served him well once when he got a wild card about 4 years back. Kev correctly referred to Nicholson, another who may think he needs to do something to make him more relevant when they are handing out the wild cards, because he wouldn't exactly stroll in. Course it also makes them more popular on the exhibition circuit, I'd say Peter Manley made a few pounds off the back of his image.

mdwexford · 01-01-2014 8:09pm

Degag wrote: »

He definitely has a chance for the simple reason that Sky have 2 wildcards. They will pick these on the basis of how many viewers they will gain and Hankey would win way more viewers than the likes of Newton, White, Hamilton etc regardless of world ranking.

If he did anything of note, just getting to the semi's of a tournie this year, he'd probably be a shoo in.

He hasn't a prayer.

Why because he pulls some faces when he's playing crap and averages 90.
Anyone who would rather Hankey in there instead of the 3 you mention isn't much of a darts fan.

Necrominus wrote: »

I have already stated I made a mistake. I was speaking of Wright - the World finalist? I haven't been impressed with Chisnall for a while to be honest, and Sky and the PDC are going to want to see ratings - not quality players. Sure you could argue Barney shouldn't have been in the Premier League a couple of times in recent years if we're talking quality - but again, ticket sales may dip as he is still one of the most popular players on tour.

Chisnall has been very unlucky since the Grand Prix and rarely averages less than 95. Doubles give him problems at times but he's easily in the top few in the world and deserves his place.

Necro · 01-01-2014 9:07pm

mdwexford wrote: »

He hasn't a prayer.

Why because he pulls some faces when he's playing crap and averages 90.
Anyone who would rather Hankey in there instead of the 3 you mention isn't much of a darts fan.

Chisnall has been very unlucky since the Grand Prix and rarely averages less than 95. Doubles give him problems at times but he's easily in the top few in the world and deserves his place.

Doubles giving him problems is probably the understatement of the year! Besides, he didn't appear last year so I don't see how he can be such a definite yes for the premier league. Anderson, regardless of ranking now,is only one of a select few who actually won the Premier League a few years back.

mdwexford · 01-01-2014 9:35pm

He wouldn't be doing as well as he is without hitting doubles.

Because he's number 7 in the world and is a big scorer and 180 hitter.

Necro · 01-01-2014 9:55pm

mdwexford wrote: »

He wouldn't be doing as well as he is without hitting doubles.

Because he's number 7 in the world and is a big scorer and 180 hitter.

Correction - WAS number 7 in the world. Peter Wright has just taken that slot.

mdwexford · 01-01-2014 10:02pm

Not till tomorrow but thanks.

Not like that has much bearing on what your saying.

Necro · 01-01-2014 10:13pm

mdwexford wrote: »

Not till tomorrow but thanks.

Not like that has much bearing on what your saying.

To me it would indicate he's not been too successful as of late. He had an excellent 2012, I'll agree! And 2012 wasn't enough to warrant him a spot in the premier league but why let facts get in the way of your argument

ArmaniJeanss · 01-01-2014 10:19pm

Necrominus wrote: »

To me it would indicate he's not been too successful as of late. He had an excellent 2012, I'll agree! And 2012 wasn't enough to warrant him a spot in the premier league but why let facts get in the way of your argument

Is this still Chizzy you are talking about, it's hard to follow?

So of the 7 televised ranking tournaments he was runner-up in the Grand Prix, Quarter Finalist in the Matchplay, Winner of the German Open - you reckon this is not a good 2013?
Before even looking at his rock solid performance in the 'floor' tourneys.

Necro · 01-01-2014 10:26pm

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Is this still Chizzy you are talking about, it's hard to follow?

So of the 7 televised ranking tournaments he was runner-up in the Grand Prix, Quarter Finalist in the Matchplay, Winner of the German Open - you reckon this is not a good 2013?
Before even looking at his rock solid performance in the 'floor' tourneys.

It was a good 2013 for Justin Pipe as well and I don't see people clamoring for him to be in the Premier League... I'm not dismissing his achievements I just feel there are others more deserving of a place in the premier league.

mdwexford · 01-01-2014 10:28pm

Necrominus wrote: »

To me it would indicate he's not been too successful as of late. He had an excellent 2012, I'll agree! And 2012 wasn't enough to warrant him a spot in the premier league but why let facts get in the way of your argument

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Not sure why you are putting White in the same sentence as Chisnail.
Chizzy is miles ahead of him, 2 wins on the Players Tour this year (£10K winner events so no small cheese) plus another 6 quarter or semi final appearances, and on the TV events he was finalist in the Grand Prix in Dublin, quarter finalist in the World MatchPlay, and won out in Germany.

To talk of there being 10 players more deserving of a place ahead of him is, to be honest, clueless.

Here are the facts you ignored earlier.

Keep talking rubbish though.

hufpc8w3adnk65 · 01-01-2014 11:39pm

When's it announced??

Necro · 01-01-2014 11:44pm

MrMac84 wrote: »

When's it announced??

After the next ad break on sky sports

hufpc8w3adnk65 · 01-01-2014 11:46pm

Necrominus wrote: »

After the next ad break on sky sports

Shoulda edited it after Dave announced it I'm going for

Taylor
MvG
Lewis
Whitlock
Wright
Wade
Thornton
Barney
If it's 10 again chizzy n Anderson I think

Johner · 01-01-2014 11:48pm

MVG
Taylor
Lewis
Whitlock
Wright
Wade
Thornton
Anderson
Barney
Newton

That's my guess, I wouldn't have Barney in it though.

Necro · 01-01-2014 11:50pm

Johner wrote: »

MVG
Taylor
Lewis
Whitlock
Wright
Wade
Thornton
Anderson
Barney
Newton

That's my guess, I wouldn't have Barney in it though.

Sounds about right.

fta93 · 01-01-2014 11:51pm

No Wade!

ArmaniJeanss · 01-01-2014 11:52pm

No James Wade is thye biggy.

Necro · 01-01-2014 11:53pm

No James Wade? The rumour mentioned previously must be true

Necro · 01-01-2014 11:54pm

Happy enough with that. Thought Smith might be in with a shout but only 10 can go through I guess

Will I Amnt · 02-01-2014 12:00am

I'm delighted Wade isn't in. Cost me in accumulators far too many times than I care to think about last year.

sc86 · 02-01-2014 12:00am

surprised newton keep his place ahead of hamilton

unknown13 · 02-01-2014 12:03am

sc86 wrote: »

surprised newton keep his place ahead of hamilton

Would rather Hamilton every time over Newton. Newton can't even get to the semi final stages of the World Championship.

qwabercd · 02-01-2014 12:04am

unknown13 wrote: »

Would rather Hamilton every time over Newton. Newton can't even get to the semi final stages of the World Championship.

He must be crap so.

KevIRL · 02-01-2014 12:04am

Wade rumours must have been true then

StephenHendry · 02-01-2014 12:06am

can't believe wade has been left out , anderson is quite lucky to get his pl place but his style of play is suited to
the pl

chippy81 · 02-01-2014 12:09am

When I saw Newton and Anderson it took me a while to figure out what names from my guess missed out. Then Pyke said no Wade which is a shock in some ways but feel he needs time off he hasn't been at the races last 6 months, that he got to quarters is testament to his fight.

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