Budget build. 5-600 euro

deckie27 · 03-09-2019 1:24pm #1

Hi

Looking into building a gaming PC for my son.
Limited budget I was going to get below and a second hand GPU with a view to upgrading the GPU for a further present etc.

Primary uses fornite streaming and editing video.

I based the items on a recent recommended list here.

What is the lowest level of GPU I could put with this to work but not restrict the whole system to much?

Any compatibility issues with the parts below?
Is there any other recommendation for a fresher motherboard as I see the MSI B450 is NLA in some stores

Thank you

https://ie.pcpartpicker.com/list/gh9xLJ
I'm gonna get items from Amazon or similar I just used partpicker to list them

AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor €154.87
Motherboard

MSI B450 Gaming Plus ATX AM4 Motherboard €118.95
Memory

G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory €94.44
Storage

Kingston A400 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive €68.08
Case

BitFenix Nova ATX Mid Tower Case €51.12
Power Supply

be quiet! System Power 9 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply €74.10

Thanks in advance

K.O.Kiki · 03-09-2019 2:26pm

Buy from UK, the pound is a bit weak & you get more choice & more for your money.

E.g.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (£115.34 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI B450M BAZOOKA Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£72.98 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£72.26 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Patriot Burst 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 570 8 GB PULSE Video Card (£139.78)
Case: GameMax Whisper MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£35.42 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 9 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£50.35 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £536.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-03 14:23 BST+0100

A full system (sans Windows) for €589

Or slightly worse components (slower RAM, 4Gb GPU instead of 8Gb) in a pre-built for €573:
CCL Delta X-CS - CCL Code: GAME-DELTAX 0501 0300 0200 0000 0000 0000 01

B Rabbit · 03-09-2019 4:15pm

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Buy from UK, the pound is a bit weak & you get more choice & more for your money.

E.g.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (£115.34 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI B450M BAZOOKA Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£72.98 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£72.26 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Patriot Burst 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 570 8 GB PULSE Video Card (£139.78)
Case: GameMax Whisper MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£35.42 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 9 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£50.35 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £536.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-03 14:23 BST+0100

A full system (sans Windows) for €589

Or slightly worse components (slower RAM, 4Gb GPU instead of 8Gb) in a pre-built for €573:
CCL Delta X-CS - CCL Code: GAME-DELTAX 0501 0300 0200 0000 0000 0000 01

nice ! would this system be capable of being upgraded in a 2 - 3 years? i guess it comes down the the motherboard compatibility.

deckie27 · 03-09-2019 9:28pm

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Buy from UK, the pound is a bit weak & you get more choice & more for your money.

E.g.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (£115.34 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI B450M BAZOOKA Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£72.98 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£72.26 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Patriot Burst 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 570 8 GB PULSE Video Card (£139.78)
Case: GameMax Whisper MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£35.42 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 9 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£50.35 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £536.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-03 14:23 BST+0100

A full system (sans Windows) for €589

Or slightly worse components (slower RAM, 4Gb GPU instead of 8Gb) in a pre-built for €573:
CCL Delta X-CS - CCL Code: GAME-DELTAX 0501 0300 0200 0000 0000 0000 01

Thanks a million K.O.Kiki

I went with below, Just under €500 ex. GPU

.. still on the hunt for a graphics card. I have until Monday to get one. Off to adverts I go...

AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Processor with Wraith Stealth Cooler - YD2600BBAFBOX
Sold by: Amazon EU S.a.r.L.
£121.98

MSI B450 GAMING PLUS Socket AM4 ATX Motherboard for AMD Ryzen Processors
Sold by: Amazon EU S.a.r.L.
£87.02

Crucial Ballistix Sport LT BLS2K8G4D32AESEK 3200 MHz, DDR4, DRAM, Desktop Gaming Memory Kit, 16 GB (8 GB x 2), CL16 (Red)
Sold by: Amazon EU S.a.r.L.
£77.48

SanDisk SSD PLUS 480 GB Sata III 2.5 Inch Internal SSD, Up to 535 MB/s
Sold by: Amazon EU S.a.r.L.
£52.77

BE QUIET 500 W System Power 9 Power Supply Unit - Black
Sold by: Amazon EU S.a.r.L.
£51.94

CiT G Force Mid-Tower RGB PC Gaming Case, ATX, Windowed Side Panel, Excellent Cooling Support, 3 x 120mm RGB LED Fans Included, Watercooling Ready, Hu
Sold by: Amazon EU S.a.r.L.
£44.18

Game Max 30 cm Magnetic LED Strip With 18 SMD 5050 LEDs - RGB
Sold by: Amazon EU S.a.r.L.
Add-on Item
£4.02

PS. I didn't choose the case.

acalmenvoy · 04-09-2019 11:56am

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Buy from UK, the pound is a bit weak & you get more choice & more for your money.

E.g.
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (£115.34 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI B450M BAZOOKA Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£72.98 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£72.26 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Patriot Burst 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 570 8 GB PULSE Video Card (£139.78)
Case: GameMax Whisper MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£35.42 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 9 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£50.35 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £536.12
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-09-03 14:23 BST+0100

A full system (sans Windows) for €589

Or slightly worse components (slower RAM, 4Gb GPU instead of 8Gb) in a pre-built for €573:
CCL Delta X-CS - CCL Code: GAME-DELTAX 0501 0300 0200 0000 0000 0000 01

This is an ideal build for me as well, but there seems to be no place to buy the graphics card, so would this one be a good substitute?

K.O.Kiki · 04-09-2019 12:01pm

acalmenvoy wrote: »

This is an ideal build for me as well, but there seems to be no place to buy the graphics card, so would this one be a good substitute?

https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Sapphire-11266-66-20G-Radeon-Graphics-Express/dp/B07MJWPSCY/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=sapphire+rx+570+8gb&qid=1567594782&s=gateway&sr=8-11

£133 now.

Sapphire are pretty much the best RX 570/580 partner card available.

deckie27 · 04-09-2019 2:00pm

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Sapphire-11266-66-20G-Radeon-Graphics-Express/dp/B07MJWPSCY/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=sapphire+rx+570+8gb&qid=1567594782&s=gateway&sr=8-11

£133 now.

Sapphire are pretty much the best RX 570/580 partner card available.

If I could get a GTX 1060 3gb for a little less than the 133 above which would be the recommended option.

Thanks

acalmenvoy · 04-09-2019 3:35pm

Could you give me an other psu option as this one is out of stock.

K.O.Kiki · 04-09-2019 4:10pm

deckie27 wrote: »

If I could get a GTX 1060 3gb for a little less than the 133 above which would be the recommended option.

Thanks

The RX 570 8Gb is a better long-term option IMHO unless you're strapped for budget or wish to use less electricity.

acalmenvoy wrote: »

Could you give me an other psu option as this one is out of stock.

Look for Corsair CX or Seasonic S12II units, between 450-550W should be plenty.

deckie27 · 04-09-2019 5:26pm

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

The RX 570 8Gb is a better long-term option IMHO unless you're strapped for budget or wish to use less electricity.

Ordered.

This started out a few days ago as a cheap second hand computer for about €300. :P:P

Roll on Monday

Thanks again

acalmenvoy · 04-09-2019 5:55pm

Have a few questions before I pull the trigger on this. Will I need the bios updated before it ships and do I need anything else to build it. Eg more fans. Cooler. Thermal paste etc?

M00lers · 04-09-2019 6:04pm

acalmenvoy wrote: »

Have a few questions before I pull the trigger on this. Will I need the bios updated before it ships and do I need anything else to build it. Eg more fans. Cooler. Thermal paste etc?

You could grab a few fans as only two included with case. See below

Front: Supports 2 x 120mm fans (1 x 120mm fan included)
Top: Supports 2 x 120mm or 140mm fans
Rear: Supports 1 x 120mm fan (included)

Stock cooler already has thermal paste applied but no harm to have some if you ever decide to reapply or install a new cooler.

No BIOS update required as you're using a 2nd Gen Ryzen with a B450 motherboard.

K.O.Kiki · 04-09-2019 6:10pm

acalmenvoy wrote: »

Have a few questions before I pull the trigger on this. Will I need the bios updated before it ships and do I need anything else to build it. Eg more fans. Cooler. Thermal paste etc?

No need for BIOS update, Ryzen 2600 & B450 are same "generation" so will work out-the-box.
Cooler is included with the 2600 - it's decent enough.
There will be 1 layer of thermal paste pre-applied, but a small tube of paste (e.g. 8g Arctic MX-2, £5.75) should be in every builder's kitbox - that's enough for 4-8 applications.

acalmenvoy · 04-09-2019 6:30pm

Thanks lads. Ordering now.

acalmenvoy · 10-09-2019 8:38pm

Parts arrived today. Build went well. Happy out. Thanks OP and big thanks to K.O.Kiki.

M00lers · 10-09-2019 9:43pm

acalmenvoy wrote: »

Parts arrived today. Build went well. Happy out. Thanks OP and big thanks to K.O.Kiki.

Okay I'll bite.

Well done, but sort out them cables. Enjoy your rig.

deckie27 · 12-09-2019 12:25pm

I also got the last of my bits on Tuesday

Thanks again for all the help.

deckie27 · 12-09-2019 1:33pm

Sorry. Image size issues

Budget build. 5-600 euro

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