The Calais jungle

Smondie · 05-08-2016 8:33am #1

Numbers have swelled to 7300, according to the last census of the Calais jungle. Lorry drivers are being attacked with chainsaws.

Why is this allowed to continue? The French moved them on and built a new camp last year, but it seems unsuccessful, the britexit has made the migrants more determined to cross to Britain before tighter border controls are introduced.

How can this situtation be allowed to continue? loading them all on crappy boats and cutting them loose in the mid Atlantic at the height of winter storms may be one solution. What else can be done?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/695851/Calais-migrants-Britain-bound-trucker-threatened-refugee-chainsaw-Jungle-camp

Timberrrrrrrr · 05-08-2016 8:34am

Smondie wrote: »

Numbers have swelled to 7300, according to the last census of the Calais jungle. Lorry drivers are being attacked with chainsaws.

Why is this allowed to continue? The French moved them on and built a new camp last year, but it seems unsuccessful, the britexit has made the migrants more determined to cross to Britain before tighter border controls are introduced.

How can this situtation be allowed to continue? loading them all on crappy boats and cutting them loose in the mid Atlantic at the height of winter storms may be one solution. What else can be done?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/695851/Calais-migrants-Britain-bound-trucker-threatened-refugee-chainsaw-Jungle-camp

Idiotic statement to make, ignorance must be a terrible affliction.

FTA69 · 05-08-2016 8:36am

Smondie wrote: »

How can this situtation be allowed to continue? loading them all on crappy boats and cutting them loose in the mid Atlantic at the height of winter storms may be one solution. What else can be done?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/695851/Calais-migrants-Britain-bound-trucker-threatened-refugee-chainsaw-Jungle-camp

Yeah mass drownings of human beings is great alright, you're so edgy and non-PC. Well done you.

Are you one of those cool dudes who has a good laugh at all the capsizing boats in the Mediterranean as well?

tomwaterford · 05-08-2016 8:41am

Smondie wrote: »

Numbers have swelled to 7300, according to the last census of the Calais jungle. Lorry drivers are being attacked with chainsaws.

Why is this allowed to continue? The French moved them on and built a new camp last year, but it seems unsuccessful, the britexit has made the migrants more determined to cross to Britain before tighter border controls are introduced.

How can this situtation be allowed to continue? loading them all on crappy boats and cutting them loose in the mid Atlantic at the height of winter storms may be one solution. What else can be done?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/695851/Calais-migrants-Britain-bound-trucker-threatened-refugee-chainsaw-Jungle-camp

Dunno why France bothers putting in so much effort to stop them tbh

Also struggling to see why someone from Ireland is so exercised by British border controls?

s4uv3 · 05-08-2016 8:45am

Drown them all? Really?
You utter prick.

razorblunt · 05-08-2016 8:55am

Sounds like one of those "Soldiers of Odin" type crap you'd see on facebook.

OldGoat · 05-08-2016 9:02am

What about the danger caused to shipping if you just abandon boats and bodies in the busy Atlantic shipping lanes. It could seriously hurt our import/export markets.
Tsk. You'll need a more carefully thought out solution.

Zxclnic · 05-08-2016 9:05am

Smondie wrote: »

Numbers have swelled to 7300, according to the last census of the Calais jungle. Lorry drivers are being attacked with chainsaws......

......What else can be done?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/695851/Calais-migrants-Britain-bound-trucker-threatened-refugee-chainsaw-Jungle-camp

Obviously not a concealed weapon then, though I suppose the people who make 'pocket knives' could also make 'pocket chainsaws', handy for cutting down unexpected trees, large bushes, parking metres, etc

suicide_circus · 05-08-2016 9:07am

Smondie wrote: »

loading them all on crappy boats and cutting them loose in the mid Atlantic at the height of winter storms may be one solution.

A final solution if you will

Bubbaclaus · 05-08-2016 9:14am

We haven't had a mass genocide suggestion in a few days, I thought something was wrong with boards.

corner of hells · 05-08-2016 9:16am

Smondie , you there ? Yo Smondie....

Smondie · 05-08-2016 9:16am

OldGoat wrote: »

What about the danger caused to shipping if you just abandon boats and bodies in the busy Atlantic shipping lanes. It could seriously hurt our import/export markets.
Tsk. You'll need a more carefully thought out solution.

Tournaments, gladiator style? They seem fond of the chainsaws and the stabby, stabby.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/674360/Calais-Jungle-mass-brawl-stabbings-migrant-crisis-France-Europe-UK-Britain

Smondie · 05-08-2016 9:18am

corner of hells wrote: »

Smondie , you there ? Yo Smondie....

Hello?!

SEPT 23 1989 · 05-08-2016 9:21am

jimmy blevins · 05-08-2016 9:21am

Maybe if the Irish navy ferry service rescued the illegal migrants back to their place of departure rather than Italy.

Smondie · 05-08-2016 9:23am

jimmy blevins wrote: »

Maybe if the Irish navy ferry service rescued the illegal migrants back to their place of departure rather than Italy.

It seems to be daft what they are doing over in the med. I'm embarrassed for them, they should be ashamed of themselves.

BoJack Horseman · 05-08-2016 9:25am

The idea of the 'Jungle' is odd.

What is it about the UK that makes these thousands of men so desperate to leave France?

And why don't they just apply for a work permit like everyone else?

OldGoat · 05-08-2016 9:30am

Smondie wrote: »

Tournaments, gladiator style? They seem fond of the chainsaws and the stabby, stabby.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/674360/Calais-Jungle-mass-brawl-stabbings-migrant-crisis-France-Europe-UK-Britain

The idea is bubkes. You might make a few shekels at the turnstiles but as a solution it's not clean or efficient and way too slow. The bread and circuses approach to controlling the masses went out with the Romans.
Are you just making up these solutions off the cuff or have you actually given it some real thought? We need to see some real innovation here.

StupidLikeAFox · 05-08-2016 9:30am

Smondie wrote: »

loading them all on crappy boats and cutting them loose in the mid Atlantic at the height of winter storms may be one solution. What else can be done?

It makes me really uncomfortable that people are openly starting to propose this kind of thing as an acceptable solution. It's definitely becoming more prevalent as a viewpoint. A dangerous way of thinking.

Smondie · 05-08-2016 9:34am

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

The idea of the 'Jungle' is odd.

What is it about the UK that makes these thousands of men so desperate to leave France?

And why don't they just apply for a work permit like everyone else?

People traffickers have been working out of Calais since 1999. There's a lot of money to be made. There is also the perception than benefits and housing in UK is easier to come by and work more readily available (Not necessarily true).

Maguined · 05-08-2016 9:37am

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

The idea of the 'Jungle' is odd.

What is it about the UK that makes these thousands of men so desperate to leave France?

And why don't they just apply for a work permit like everyone else?

You cannot apply for a work permit if you are an illegal immigrant. They could ask for asylum in France but many do not want to as they believe the UK is a better place with more generous conditions for migrants so they are hoping to make it to the UK rather than France.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8129812.stm

But the French government has also called upon Britain to tighten its controls, warning that migrants still see the British illegal job market as the promised land.

Many of the migrants in the jungle say that with no identity card system, Britain is a much easier place for an illegal immigrant to find work.

BoJack Horseman · 05-08-2016 9:42am

Maguined wrote: »

You cannot apply for a work permit if you are an illegal immigrant

so, they are illegally in France?

Why are they not deported?

munchkin_utd · 05-08-2016 9:45am

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

so, they are illegally in France?

Why are they not deported?

maybe because the minute you arest them they will claim asylum, which neither the french nor the people want.

Smondie · 05-08-2016 9:46am

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

so, they are illegally in France?

Why are they not deported?

Too many of them. They get violent. The police can't handle the situtation. They can just about contain them.

LuckyRoche · 05-08-2016 9:46am

tomwaterford wrote: »

Also struggling to see why someone from Ireland is so exercised by British border controls?

Guess which country has a common travel area with the UK?

05-08-2016 9:46am

Smondie wrote: »

loading them all on crappy boats and cutting them loose in the mid Atlantic at the height of winter storms may be one solution.

http://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2015/09/02/13/syrian-migrant-boy-turkey.jpg

LuckyRoche · 05-08-2016 9:47am

Look up the facts behind that photo. His father was the one driving the ****ing boat!

ancapailldorcha · 05-08-2016 9:48am

The Express. For the moron who's fed up of the Daily Mail's far left bias.

Smondie · 05-08-2016 9:48am

Deleted User wrote: »

Smondie wrote: »

loading them all on crappy boats and cutting them loose in the mid Atlantic at the height of winter storms may be one solution.

http://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2015/09/02/13/syrian-migrant-boy-turkey.jpg

So? He's dead. Attacking lorry drivers in Calais won't be any use to him.

You can't emotionally blackmail me with your staged photos .

Wasn't his father driving the thing?

FalconGirl · 05-08-2016 9:52am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

http://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2015/09/02/13/syrian-migrant-boy-turkey.jpg

Let's call a spade a spade, stupid political decisions were subsequently made because of that picture without very little thought of the implications on Europe as a whole tragic as it was.

His father should never have taken the risk to cross with the family out of a safe country.

BoJack Horseman · 05-08-2016 9:52am

munchkin_utd wrote: »

maybe because the minute you arest them they will claim asylum, which neither the french nor the people want.

What should it matter what illegal migrants want?
A burglar may not want to be arrested, but if one breaks the law then that's life!

Essentially you are saying the 'jungle' exists because the French police could not be bothered with doing their job.

That's a sad state of affairs.

cajonlardo · 05-08-2016 9:56am

Smondie wrote: »

It seems to be daft what they are doing over in the med. I'm embarrassed for them, they should be ashamed of themselves.

Why exactly should they be ashamed of themselves?

They follow a chain of command that leads directly to the minister of defense.

Said minister and government elected by the people of this country in a democratic Election. That is how it works in any free country.

Embarrassed for them? I'm sure they give a flying fcuk what your embarrassed about.

05-08-2016 9:59am

Smondie wrote: »

So? He's dead. Attacking lorry drivers in Calais won't be any use to him.

You can't emotionally blackmail me with your staged photos .

Wasn't his father driving the thing?

A kid washed up by the tide is a "staged photo"?

You think drowning is a suitable "solution" for these people?

The victim here is you, you think you are being emotionally blackmailed?

That's a very strange and disturbing take on matters.

Smondie · 05-08-2016 9:59am

cajonlardo wrote: »

Smondie wrote: »

It seems to be daft what they are doing over in the med. I'm embarrassed for them, they should be ashamed of themselves.

Why exactly should they be ashamed of themselves?

They follow a chain of command that leads directly to the minister of defense.

Said minister and government elected by the people of this country in a democratic Election. That is how it works in any free country.

Embarrassed for them? I'm sure they give a flying fcuk what your embarrassed about.

Just following orders. Where have I heard that before? It's well known the navy and the army recruit people who are a bit simple and can't think for themselves

Maguined · 05-08-2016 10:00am

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

so, they are illegally in France?

Why are they not deported?

I think it is complicated because they are not claiming asylum in France nor working so there is no direct process for deportation as that normally happens when you work without a permit or your asylum is denied. They can deport them to the first European country they entered but they just come back to Calais and it costs lots to deport them so there is little point.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2680144/Police-rid-Calais-UK-bound-migrants-Officers-admit-losing-battle-clear-hundreds-town.html

Those taken into police custody had their personal details recorded, and were then offered advice about how to claim asylum in France.

‘The vast majority said they wanted to get to Britain, and in these circumstances there was very little else we can do,’ said a senior officer involved in the clear-out.

‘Most of those apprehended were released and allowed to get on their ways.

‘Many destroy their identify papers so we don’t even know who they are or where they come from.’

Technically, the migrants can be deported to their first European port of arrival, but in practice it is not worth the trouble as they just come back again.

Smondie · 05-08-2016 10:02am

Deleted User wrote: »

Smondie wrote: »

So? He's dead. Attacking lorry drivers in Calais won't be any use to him.

You can't emotionally blackmail me with your staged photos .

Wasn't his father driving the thing?

A kid washed up by the tide is a "staged photo"?

You think drowning is a suitable "solution" for these people?

The victim here is you, you think you are being emotionally blackmailed?

That's a very strange and disturbing take on matters.

What has this dead kid in the med. Got to do with attacking lorry drivers at Calais? Unless he has come back as a ghost?

What would you like, me to breakdown crying and make a sign?

Timberrrrrrrr · 05-08-2016 10:03am

Smondie wrote: »

Just following orders. Where have I heard that before? It's well known the navy and the army recruit people who are a bit simple and can't think for themselves

Aaaaand back under the bridge with you.

FalconGirl · 05-08-2016 10:03am

Maguined wrote: »

I think it is complicated because they are not claiming asylum in France nor working so there is no direct process for deportation as that normally happens when you work without a permit or your asylum is denied. They can deport them to the first European country they entered but they just come back to Calais and it costs lots to deport them so there is little point.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2680144/Police-rid-Calais-UK-bound-migrants-Officers-admit-losing-battle-clear-hundreds-town.html

It's all very sinister to be honest especially with the fact they are ripping up identity papers and the majority of them are young men.

BoJack Horseman · 05-08-2016 10:03am

Maguined wrote: »

They can deport them to the first European country they entered but they just come back to Calais and it costs lots to deport them so there is little point

So, live in perpetual squalor & violence for the rest of their lives (there is no upper end to the Jungle's lifespan), while breaking the law by being in France illegally?

That's a poor plan the French have right there!

cajonlardo · 05-08-2016 10:06am

Smondie wrote: »

Just following orders. Where have I heard that before? It's well known the navy and the army recruit people who are a bit simple and can't think for themselves

Comparing PDF to Nazis. Really? Thats where you are at?
Sorry, I'm not sinking THAT low.

Tell you what, go sign up and see if you can think for yourself far enough to make the initial interview.

Smondie · 05-08-2016 10:10am

cajonlardo wrote: »

Smondie wrote: »

Just following orders. Where have I heard that before? It's well known the navy and the army recruit people who are a bit simple and can't think for themselves

Comparing PDF to Nazis. Really? Thats where you are at?
Sorry, I'm not sinking THAT low.

Tell you what, go sign up and see if you can think for yourself far enough to make the initial interview.

Your the one that said they have to follow the chain of command. I was just summing up what you said.

I thought everyone knew who the defence forces target recruits were. Maybe not!

05-08-2016 10:13am

Smondie wrote: »

What has this dead kid in the med. Got to do with attacking lorry drivers at Calais? Unless he has come back as a ghost?

You suggested drowning immigrants as a "solution".

The child in the pic drowned.

Do you see the connection or are you still laughing too hard at your own ghost joke? Look at the word drown. Focus on it. Think hard.

Mr. CooL ICE · 05-08-2016 10:18am

Closed for review

Mr. CooL ICE · 05-08-2016 10:32am

Mod:

OP banned for advocating genocide trolling.

The Calais jungle

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