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Harry and Meghan - OP updated with Threadbanned Users 4/5/21

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  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    I am surprised this story did not get more attention - I seen it mentioned/linked on SM site this am:

    https://www.thesun.ie/fabulous/7125032/prince-harry-meghan-markle-compassion-project-profit/

    Someone has also done some digging and found a corporation which registered some US IP rights back in 2019 for the name Lili, which is apparently linked/owned by H&M.. Show intent from long before she was even pregnant with their 2nd child.

    Possible that they had the name in mind for the baby she miscarried? Or even for Archie before they knew they were having a boy.

    I can see them trademarking potential names - the palace staff have done it for Cambridge kids as far as I know. But it was always as a way of preventing randomers from registering the domain name and then selling it off or using it for their own unauthorised association with that person. So it makes sense if you are royal to register any potential kids names you had in mind even if you don't end up using them.

    Given their insistence on privacy for the children, I don't actually see that they'd put their children in the spotlight for cash. And I personally suspect that's the one thing Harry would never bend on - or maybe it's the one thing he's adamant about. It's probably one of the few things I respect them for doing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭tara73


    Women and health reported Meghan was going to launch a lifestyle brand ala GP with her goop. After this someone did some snooping and found the domain registered shopLiliwell dot com was registered in Feb 2020 then found the US Trade Mark applications from 2019.

    Though they are not registered directly to H & M the link is through the company Clevr Blends which the media reported Meghan is now investor in as is Oprah.....

    I think all this was uncovered and posted to Twitter.


    why don't you just post the link to it ?


    I like this thread because there is not much muppetry going on from the majority of posters, many with their head screwed on and great analysis that's why I don't like posts like this with a huge story, and not able to back it up, just with: I think it was on twitter...


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    Women and health reported Meghan was going to launch a lifestyle brand ala GP with her goop. After this someone did some snooping and found the domain registered shopLiliwell dot com was registered in Feb 2020 then found the US Trade Mark applications from 2019.

    Though they are not registered directly to H & M the link is through the company Clevr Blends which the media reported Meghan is now investor in as is Oprah.....

    I think all this was uncovered and posted to Twitter.

    I've had a girl baby name since I was in my twenties. It's the only girl name I was certain of. Pretty much as soon as OH and I decided to start a family I said if we have a girl, what do you think of the name X? and he loved it too so it was decided years before I even got pregnant. As it happens, we had a boy so never used it.

    Harry might have done likewise with Lilibet - and if they weren't estranged from the family and trashing them in interviews, the name would have been probably a lovely touching gesture for the Queen from close members of her family.

    It's only because they've caused the Queen so much upset with all the other stuff that the use of a personal nickname is the cherry on top of everything else.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭tara73


    Neyite wrote: »
    I can see them trademarking potential names - the palace staff have done it for Cambridge kids as far as I know. But it was always as a way of preventing randomers from registering the domain name and then selling it off or using it for their own unauthorised association with that person. So it makes sense if you are royal to register any potential kids names you had in mind even if you don't end up using them.


    ?? I don't get it.

    Say, William 'registered' the name George and Charlotte before their children where born. Does that mean he could sue now all parents that name their child George or Charlotte??

    I'm hearing about the possibility registering names for the first time..


  • Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭Ms. Newbie18


    Neyite wrote: »
    Possible that they had the name in mind for the baby she miscarried? Or even for Archie before they knew they were having a boy.

    I can see them trademarking potential names - the palace staff have done it for Cambridge kids as far as I know. But it was always as a way of preventing randomers from registering the domain name and then selling it off or using it for their own unauthorised association with that person. So it makes sense if you are royal to register any potential kids names you had in mind even if you don't end up using them.

    Given their insistence on privacy for the children, I don't actually see that they'd put their children in the spotlight for cash. And I personally suspect that's the one thing Harry would never bend on - or maybe it's the one thing he's adamant about. It's probably one of the few things I respect them for doing.


    You are correct it is standard practice now for celebs to register their potential names for their off spring in order to stop anyone else profiting from them.

    I don't believe they will parade their children out for the world media to see (sell photos etc) but use their names to further their brand then yes I can see that happening.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭Ms. Newbie18


    tara73 wrote: »
    why don't you just post the link to it ?


    I like this thread because there is not much muppetry going on from the majority of posters, many with their head screwed on and great analysis that's why I don't like posts like this with a huge story, and not able to back it up, just with: I think it was on twitter...

    Because a thread on twitter is not a new article and I do not have the time nor care to go back through post I have read to link them.

    However, should YOU care, you can go to the ustpo register and the domain search to find what TMs/Domains were registered - which is where the true link is as they were registered to companies linked to H & M.

    These searches are FREE for anyone to run..


  • Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭Ms. Newbie18


    tara73 wrote: »
    ?? I don't get it.

    Say, William 'registered' the name George and Charlotte before their children where born. Does that mean he could sue now all parents that name their child George or Charlotte??

    I'm hearing about the possibility registering names for the first time..

    No that is not how IP rights work. You can not have exclusive use to a name, place or site. The issue lies within what you register your use is for. So lets say Wills registered the name George and he was going to start a football team with that name so the goods/services would be registered for football related things i.e stadium, games, merchandise. Once the registration is granted no one can use the TMs for these same goods/service unless they were licensed to do so by the TM owner.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭tara73


    Because a thread on twitter is not a new article and I do not have the time nor care to go back through post I have read to link them.

    However, should YOU care, you can go to the ustpo register and the domain search to find what TMs/Domains were registered - which is where the true link is as they were registered to companies linked to H & M.

    These searches are FREE for anyone to run..


    darling, that's not how it works here. If YOU make such an horrendous claim, YOU are the one to back it up! otherwise be prepared to be called out as muppetry!

    that attitude tells everything...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,149 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    EOTR, are Meghan and Harry infallible like the Pope ? I ask because your posts seem to follow a theme of it’s everyone’s faults and they are innocent put upon victims who have done nothing wrong.

    I found it interesting that they named their daughter after an institution they said on world wide TV had cause them so much grief, yet her mother didn’t get a look in. Funny that.

    nobody is infallible.
    they certainly aren't guilty of a number of the claims made against them with others much a do about nothing and would be to an extent be victims of elements of the british press and it's behaviour.
    they named the child after the child's great grandmother and grandmother, yes 1 heads up the very institution they have understandably got issues with but that is a separate issue.
    no reason they shouldn't name the child after the child's great grandmother just because the institution she heads up happens to be problematic.
    maybe meghan's mother didn't want the child named after her and is happy with the arrangement, i don't ultimately know and it's a family matter anyway.
    How come Harry has never met Thomas Markle? They were going out for a couple of years before they got married and it was only around the time of the wedding her dad appeared in the press.

    because he hasn't met him.
    He was left with no choice but to use the media as a tool to contact his daughter after she cut contact with him while he was on hospital recovering from a heart attack. He had all receipts to show he tried and tried to contact her without success.

    Very easy for her to pick up a phone and say let's work this out. It was her friends to went to the press about her father in the 1st place. Its tit for tat at this stage.


    incorrect.
    he had every choice but to talk to the media, he did so because he wanted money and to be in the limelight and to latch on to meghan's fame some how.
    she made contact with him and he kept selling it to the media which is why she stopped contact originally.
    he brought this all on himself and is not behaving how a good father should behave.
    shame on him, he needs to concentrate on trying to rebuild the relationship with his daughter rather then seeking the limelight.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users Posts: 379 ✭✭Tilden Katz


    lazygal wrote: »
    If Diana hadn't died so young I feel the narrative around her would be very different. She twice said she was stepping back from public life and didn't follow through on that. She was well able to use the media to present herself in a certain light.

    Diana was no angel. She always struck me as quite manipulative.


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  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    tara73 wrote: »
    ?? I don't get it.

    Say, William 'registered' the name George and Charlotte before their children where born. Does that mean he could sue now all parents that name their child George or Charlotte??

    I'm hearing about the possibility registering names for the first time..

    You can't trademark a persons name, but you can trademark the name for products or services.

    So say I trademarked tara73, it's still your name, but if you wanted to set up your website or sell stuff under a brand name tara73, you can't because I bought it first. You'd have to get me to sell you the trademark so you could use it. And if you were loaded like a royal, I'd hold out for a good wedge.

    So an example might be a porn star calling herself Princess Charlotte wanting to launch her own range of adult apparel and toys, calling it the Princess Charlotte range. Whips, chains all that craic. By trademarking all the variants of Charlottes (the royal) names, they can prevent anyone from using the name as their brand. If the porn star by happy coincidence had trademarked the name first, she could pretty much name her price from the royal family to buy it off her.


  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    they named the child after the child's great grandmother and grandmother,

    They didn't though. They named their child the childhood nickname of its great grandmother. If they named her after the queen's actual name, it may have looked respectful, as it is, it looks like a badly thought out publicity stunt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    bubblypop wrote: »
    They didn't though. They named their child the childhood nickname of its great grandmother. If they named her after the queen's actual name, it may have looked respectful, as it is, it looks like a badly thought out publicity stunt.
    That's exactly what it is-they're looking for attention. They even went as far as saying the child will actually be called Lili, so why name her Lilibet? Everyone knows it is a pet name, and not a usual derivative of Elizabeth.

    I'm actually a fan of family names, and I'm sorry my husband didn't like one in particular when we were choosing names for our children as I would have loved to continue on the tradition, but we couldn't agree so chose a totally different name. Elizabeth would have raised fewer eyebrows than Lilibet, and they're not even planning on that being her common usage name. Absolutely silly behaviour from them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭tara73


    Neyite wrote: »
    You can't trademark a persons name, but you can trademark the name for products or services.

    So say I trademarked tara73, it's still your name, but if you wanted to set up your website or sell stuff under a brand name tara73, you can't because I bought it first. You'd have to get me to sell you the trademark so you could use it. And if you were loaded like a royal, I'd hold out for a good wedge.

    So an example might be a porn star calling herself Princess Charlotte wanting to launch her own range of adult apparel and toys, calling it the Princess Charlotte range. Whips, chains all that craic. By trademarking all the variants of Charlottes (the royal) names, they can prevent anyone from using the name as their brand. If the porn star by happy coincidence had trademarked the name first, she could pretty much name her price from the royal family to buy it off her.


    thanks for explanation. yes, surely I know that it works like that with brand names, it just sounded like registering a name and nobody would kind of allowed to name their kids with that name anymore:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    Diana was no angel. She always struck me as quite manipulative.
    She definitely was, and the media liked her because she shifted units. I remember one tabloid editor saying they knew they'd never ever sell as many papers ever again after she died. Even to this day the likes of HELLO! have her on the cover fairly regularly because she'll sell. Her legacy is weird, I think the Royals learned a lot from how you can write a narrative and have it supported once you play your cards right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,543 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    I've said it before on this thread but there was a public and media backlash against Diana. "The Queen of Tarts" was used instead of her own version "The Queen of Hearts".

    The hysteria after her death ironically changed her image back to that of a near saint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,409 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    I've said it before on this thread but there was a public and media backlash against Diana. "The Queen of Tarts" was used instead of her own version "The Queen of Hearts".

    The hysteria after her death ironically changed her image back to that of a near saint.

    She was a laughing stock. And now she's some kind of symbol of goodness. Baffling.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,375 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    I've said it before on this thread but there was a public and media backlash against Diana. "The Queen of Tarts" was used instead of her own version "The Queen of Hearts".

    The hysteria after her death ironically changed her image back to that of a near saint.

    And Tony Blair with the 'people's princess' title. It was all such crackers stuff really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,239 ✭✭✭Be right back


    nobody is infallible.
    they certainly aren't guilty of a number of the claims made against them with others much a do about nothing and would be to an extent be victims of elements of the british press and it's behaviour.
    they named the child after the child's great grandmother and grandmother, yes 1 heads up the very institution they have understandably got issues with but that is a separate issue.
    no reason they shouldn't name the child after the child's great grandmother just because the institution she heads up happens to be problematic.
    maybe meghan's mother didn't want the child named after her and is happy with the arrangement, i don't ultimately know and it's a family matter anyway.



    because he hasn't met him.




    incorrect.
    he had every choice but to talk to the media, he did so because he wanted money and to be in the limelight and to latch on to meghan's fame some how.
    she made contact with him and he kept selling it to the media which is why she stopped contact originally.
    he brought this all on himself and is not behaving how a good father should behave.
    shame on him, he needs to concentrate on trying to rebuild the relationship with his daughter rather then seeking the limelight.

    Why wouldn't he meet her dad? Very strange to be fair. Was he really only going to meet him for the first time just before the wedding? Or was it down to her who stopped them from meeting? After all, she had met his entire family and he only met her mother from her whole family!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,149 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    bubblypop wrote: »
    They didn't though. They named their child the childhood nickname of its great grandmother. If they named her after the queen's actual name, it may have looked respectful, as it is, it looks like a badly thought out publicity stunt.


    for most i would wager it just looks like exactly what it is, parents naming their child and nothing more.
    really this is a much ado over nothing as i have said a plenty and they are unlikely to change the name now.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    And Tony Blair with the 'people's princess' title. It was all such crackers stuff really.
    My mam is a terribly sensible, don't be moaning, keep going sort of person but even she was a melt the week Diana died. I remember her buying an extra box of tissues because she said we'd all be crying so much at the funeral. :rolleyes:

    She happened to be visiting her mother along with her sister the morning the news broke and she told me my granny came into the room crying to tell them Diana was dead and they all had a weep. I've never seen the three of them crying ever.
    I'm sure a lot of people cringe at themselves carrying on that whole week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,157 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    lazygal wrote: »
    My mam is a terribly sensible, don't be moaning, keep going sort of person but even she was a melt the week Diana died. I remember her buying an extra box of tissues because she said we'd all be crying so much at the funeral. :rolleyes:

    She happened to be visiting her mother along with her sister the morning the news broke and she told me my granny came into the room crying to tell them Diana was dead and they all had a weep. I've never seen the three of them crying ever.
    I'm sure a lot of people cringe at themselves carrying on that whole week.

    A genuine case of mass hysteria . It fascinated me to watch it spread and people get caught up in it . It spread like wildfire in the UK and people lost complete control of their emotions . I am sure it makes for very good thesis material


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    A genuine case of mass hysteria . It fascinated me to watch it spread and people get caught up in it . It spread like wildfire in the UK and people lost complete control of their emotions . I am sure it makes for very good thesis material
    I'm sure someone got a PhD out of it!
    Even the teachers in school were caught up in it. I don't think we did a tap that week. 12 hour queues to sign books of condolences and people getting apoplectic that Liz Windsor didn't have a flag at half mask. Mad times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,149 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Why wouldn't he meet her dad? Very strange to be fair. Was he really only going to meet him for the first time just before the wedding? Or was it down to her who stopped them from meeting? After all, she had met his entire family and he only met her mother from her whole family!


    i don't know, ultimately you would have to find some way of asking him that question as that is the only way you will get the answer.



    generally most people would probably get to meet both parents before the marriage but whether only meeting one is strange or not is not for me to decide given there can be many reasons why that may not be possible and not everyone is going to be the same as each other.
    so it's not for me to judge.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    for most i would wager it just looks like exactly what it is, parents naming their child and nothing more.
    really this is a much ado over nothing as i have said a plenty and they are unlikely to change the name now.

    They got what they wanted by using The Queens pet name - plenty of publicity. Mightn’t need hire a consultant now!
    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/world-news/prince-harry-meghan-markle-want-24320638


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    generally most people would probably get to meet both parents before the marriage but whether only meeting one is strange or not is not for me to decide given there can be many reasons why that may not be possible and not everyone is going to be the same as each other.
    so it's not for me to judge.

    I have found that when someone isn’t allowing me to meet people in their lives, they’re hiding something about themselves rather than the people I’m not meeting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,149 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Addle wrote: »
    I have found that when someone isn’t allowing me to meet people in their lives, they’re hiding something about themselves rather than the people I’m not meeting.


    both are possible, each case will be different.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    both are possible, each case will be different.

    Meh. These are people who travel a lot. She popped to New York for a baby shower IIRC. It beggars belief that in all the time they were in a serious relationship there was no opportunity for him to meet her father. It's obvious that she didn't want it to happen. For whatever reason.

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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,375 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    A genuine case of mass hysteria . It fascinated me to watch it spread and people get caught up in it . It spread like wildfire in the UK and people lost complete control of their emotions . I am sure it makes for very good thesis material

    I imagine people looking back possibly even at footage of themselves, sobbing and wailing, and wondering what the hell they were thinking. Especially as there is such a thing about having a 'stiff upper lip' in England.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭Ms. Newbie18


    tara73 wrote: »
    darling, that's not how it works here. If YOU make such an horrendous claim, YOU are the one to back it up! otherwise be prepared to be called out as muppetry!

    that attitude tells everything...

    It is up to no one to do the work for you! In the error of fake news it is up to each person to fact check whatever they read. News papers are not always fact checked...

    And I literally told you where you can find the information re the TMs and Domains.

    Muppertry indeed.


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    I imagine people looking back possibly even at footage of themselves, sobbing and wailing, and wondering what the hell they were thinking. Especially as there is such a thing about having a 'stiff upper lip' in England.

    It was absolutely ridiculous. Literally days before she died, there was massive consternation in all publications at yet another Muslim boyfriend she had taken up with, how she was jetting off on yet another holiday and lots of speculation as to whether the future king might have step-siblings, and even more concerning to the masses, if that step-sibling might be not white and not Church of England. With Dodi, it was pointedly noted that his father, despite owning Harrods and living in England for decades was turned down several times for citizenship. ie some sort of murky past somewhere.

    Then they were demanding a state funeral for her. They basically had her canonised. The public demanded that the Royal Family leave Balmoral (along with Charles and they boys) to come and witness their competitive grieving in London. They frothed over the boys in the funeral cortège, but the family would have been attacked if they tried to shield the boys from such a public moment. It was obscene really.


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    I thought it was funny that a paper reported she was considering "interrupting her maternity leave to attend" That really tickled me.

    Plenty of women I know 'interrupted their maternity leave' to attend school concerts, hold fundraiser events for their local clubs, throw parties for their kids/ other halves, go to weddings and funerals etc. I even know women who interrupted their maternity leave to go into the office once or twice for critical meetings.

    They really think that unveiling a statue of his mother and commemorating it is work?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,943 ✭✭✭dogbert27


    Neyite wrote: »
    I thought it was funny that a paper reported she was considering "interrupting her maternity leave to attend" That really tickled me.

    Plenty of women I know 'interrupted their maternity leave' to attend school concerts, hold fundraiser events for their local clubs, throw parties for their kids/ other halves, go to weddings and funerals etc. I even know women who interrupted their maternity leave to go into the office once or twice for critical meetings.

    They really think that unveiling a statue of his mother and commemorating it is work?

    Will they be expecting to get paid for appearing?! :pac:

    Or because they are so benevolent they will compassionately forego they're fees and intend to give it to some charity :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,375 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    I'm picturing everyone else drawing straws to see who will sit next to them. 'Not me, no, not me...' :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,543 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    How could she be expected to cope if Harry got his mug in the papers and name in the headlines and she didn't?

    The horror!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,363 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Wait so family relations have gotten worse not better since all the interviews. I must say I’m shocked and stunned over this revelation, I really am. I mean imagine if a family member of the posters in this thread did what Harry and Meghan did on RTÉ and basically aired all the dirty Landry in public and made accusations with no evidence to back them up, them personally I wouldn’t exactly be all sunshine and rainbows towards that family member.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭Lillyfae


    How could she be expected to cope if Harry got his mug in the papers and name in the headlines and she didn't?

    The horror!

    It's a goal for the exercise video she'll be releasing for the baby weight loss :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,239 ✭✭✭Be right back



    I would be very surprised if she did go. I think she will have a last minute issue so she won't be able to travel!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Immortal Starlight


    She probably will go because it’s about Diana. She always seems to want to be compared with Diana even though she never knew anything about Diana or even googled Harry:pac:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭Lillyfae


    I would be very surprised if she did go. I think she will have a last minute issue so she won't be able to travel!

    To be fair I wouldn't. How old is baby? Two weeks? July 1st is another 2 weeks away. You would have had to render me unconscious to separate me from my babies until they were at least 3 months old, and 4 weeks is too young to travel imo.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,375 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    I would be very surprised if she did go. I think she will have a last minute issue so she won't be able to travel!

    I was thinking the same thing.
    At the last minute, she won't travel, staying home instead with the childer :D


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,375 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Wait so family relations have gotten worse not better since all the interviews. I must say I’m shocked and stunned over this revelation, I really am. I mean imagine if a family member of the posters in this thread did what Harry and Meghan did on RTÉ and basically aired all the dirty Landry in public and made accusations with no evidence to back them up, them personally I wouldn’t exactly be all sunshine and rainbows towards that family member.

    Exactly. Same here, shocked and stunned :D I mean who doesn't want family stuff, be it true or false being discussed on tv.

    I was thinking at the time of the funeral, how uneasy everyone must feel, around Harry. I wonder did they make sure to not be alone with him, fearing that whatever was (or indeed was not) said, would be blathered out to Oprah afterwards... :rolleyes:


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    Lillyfae wrote: »
    To be fair I wouldn't. How old is baby? Two weeks? July 1st is another 2 weeks away. You would have had to render me unconscious to separate me from my babies until they were at least 3 months old, and 4 weeks is too young to travel imo.

    Shur, wouldn’t Oprah loan them her jet? Easypeasy.


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    I'm picturing everyone else drawing straws to see who will sit next to them. 'Not me, no, not me...' :D

    My money's on them being sat between Andrew and Princess Michael of Kent. On rickety chairs with lumps in the cushions.
    I would be very surprised if she did go. I think she will have a last minute issue so she won't be able to travel!

    I would say they've no intention of her arriving in the UK with him, but they suggested it to gauge their currently popularity levels from the public response it would get.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,375 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    Neyite wrote: »
    My money's on them being sat between Andrew and Princess Michael of Kent. On rickety chairs with lumps in the cushions.

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,543 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    She probably will go because it’s about Diana. She always seems to want to be compared with Diana even though she never knew anything about Diana or even googled Harry:pac:

    She'll probably wear something very similar to something Diana once wore.

    Entirely coincidentally, of course.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Immortal Starlight


    She'll probably wear something very similar to something Diana once wore.

    Entirely coincidentally, of course.

    Which will then lead to all those dreadful photographers taking pictures for all those horrible newspapers and websites again. Just the exact same thing that always happened to Diana. Then Harry will have to do another interview about how the same thing is happening to Meghan. Poor girl just can’t get a break:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,026 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    I am sure, she will go. It is one of the last chances for her to be relevant on a global level. She won't miss it.

    I wander how they felt watching G7 summit and Kate cooperating with Jill Biden and RF meeting World's leaders. I think they eventually must have felt how much they fell down in a social status ranking with all their own doings.


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    JoChervil wrote: »
    I am sure, she will go. It is one of the last chances for her to be relevant on a global level. She won't miss it.

    I wander how they felt watching G7 summit and Kate cooperating with Jill Biden and RF meeting World's leaders. I think they eventually must have felt how much they fell down in a social status ranking with all their own doings.

    That's a very good point. If they think she won't get booed the moment she gets off the plane she could very well attend. The original plan for them to rub shoulders with A-listers at glamorous events was scuppered by the pandemic driving them all back inside their mansions. I think H&M need a few glitzy events to attend to stay marketable and would always need the occasional royal occasion.

    Just a pity she's on maternity leave and won't be able to attend any for several months.


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