What places have closed during the pandemic?

25-02-2021 8:53pm

Abercrombie and Fitch

doublejobbing 2 · 25-02-2021 8:59pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

SSG gets by from TK Maxx, Boots and Dunnes pretty much.

Strange such a big place can be viable off three shops.

TK Maxx. Jaysis. Where style goes to die. It's like a SVDP shop. Except in the early 90's. And an SVDP where everything costs 240 quid but the label claims this is a bargain as it used to be 480.

Was on Grafton St today, a few of the high end brand stores (Hugo Boss, Tommy Hilfiger, not sure you would call them high end but North Face and Canada Goose) have their insides cleared out, hopefully only to deter the smash and grab that happened at Canada Goose, as I'd be partial to HB and TH myself.

Certainly more people enjoying a walk around than when I last ventured in in January (weather conditions vastly different mind).

25-02-2021 9:02pm

The North Face was ram raided during the 1st lockdown. Quite a few stores on Grafton Street emptied out the stock after that for security.

retalivity · 25-02-2021 11:40pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

SSG gets by from TK Maxx, Boots and Dunnes pretty much. The other units open and close all the time. Except the barbers with the metal knight, I can remember that being there in 1992!
I actually love SSG shopping centre, always have, I miss going there every day on my lunch breaks.

Tribe has been there since i first came to dublin for college near 20 years ago. Remember getting a pair of carharrt cords in there

mindhorn · 27-02-2021 12:37pm

Probus Wines on Fenian St is gone.

retalivity · 27-02-2021 1:37pm

mindhorn wrote: »

Probus Wines on Fenian St is gone.

That's long gone I thought?

mindhorn · 27-02-2021 1:51pm

Possibly but nearly sure it was open pre-pandemic.

L1011 · 27-02-2021 3:37pm

It went up for rent as a stripped out shell (including what had been Mizzoni next door) early on the pandemic (edit: actually start of August, so not that early)

Muahahaha · 27-02-2021 7:16pm

Anyone know how long Saburritos on Dame Street is gone? Passed by a few days ago for the first time in a good while and noticed its been replaced by a Pakistani/Indian

dhaughton99 · 27-02-2021 8:03pm

Carluccis and Starbucks on Dawson st. Subway on merrion st lower.

blue_blue · 28-02-2021 11:19am

dhaughton99 wrote: »

Carluccis and Starbucks on Dawson st. Subway on merrion st lower.

Has the signage for Carluccis been taken down? (haven't been in town in months).

According to this article last May, the intention was to keep the Dawson street restaurant open.

AhhHere · 28-02-2021 7:45pm

Roma 2. Chipper beside Whelan's is gone

pottokblue · 28-02-2021 7:51pm

noooooo is that were the late Anthony Bourdain ate on his 48hours in Dublin???

AhhHere · 28-02-2021 7:57pm

pottokblue wrote: »

noooooo is that were the late Anthony Bourdain ate on his 48hours in Dublin???

Yep. Smoked cod and taco fries if I remember correctly

odyssey06 · 28-02-2021 8:08pm

pottokblue wrote: »

noooooo is that were the late Anthony Bourdain ate on his 48hours in Dublin???

Yep, also Slatterys Capel St, Chophouse, Crackbird, Matt the Threshers and drinks in Gravediggers, Palace Bar, Long Hall, Hogans.
A previous trip brought him to King Sitric in Howth.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/travel/ireland/anthony-bourdain-s-dublin-1.3529146

pottokblue · 28-02-2021 9:45pm

Crackbird gone, the other places still there I believe?? I might go on an Anthony Bourdain tribute trail sometime in 2022/23 post restrictions... Is there a Roma1 somewhere?

AhhHere · 28-02-2021 9:50pm

pottokblue wrote: »

Crackbird gone, the other places still there I believe?? I might go on an Anthony Bourdain tribute trail sometime in 2022/23 post restrictions... Is there a Roma1 somewhere?

There's a Roma on dean Street, d8. Across from fallons pub. I asked before if they were connected and they said yes. But Im not sure I believe them.

ongarboy · 28-02-2021 10:04pm

01902 wrote: »

Abercrombie and Fitch

Is that for definite or just closed for duration of lockdown? I'd have thought that would make the news if it exited Ireland. There was such a big fuss when it first opened.

Muahahaha · 28-02-2021 11:27pm

AhhHere wrote: »

Roma 2. Chipper beside Whelan's is gone

jaysis, that must have been there for decades.

Id guess some landlords who have their mortgages long since paid off are using the pandemic as a way to exit 30 year leases in the hope of getting tenants who'll pay a good deal more rent when things open back up.

ligerdub · 28-02-2021 11:32pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

jaysis, that must have been there for decades.

Id guess some landlords who have their mortgages long since paid off are using the pandemic as a way to exit 30 year leases in the hope of getting tenants who'll pay a good deal more rent when things open back up.

That's quite an ambitious take in my opinion.

retalivity · 28-02-2021 11:34pm

I avoided roma 2 for years after getting a bad feed in it one night. Always seemed empty apart from late at night.
Gave it another go about a year ago and it was surprisingly good. Went back for a few lunches from work and it was good chipper fare - sad to see it go.

Muahahaha · 28-02-2021 11:52pm

ligerdub wrote: »

That's quite an ambitious take in my opinion.

Why so? Demand for food retail units on Camden St has skyrocketed over the last few years. A unit like the Roma 2 will get snapped up in jig time, those opportunities dont come along too often and lots of food businesses would love a foothold on Camden Street

timeToLive · 01-03-2021 12:02am

ongarboy wrote: »

Is that for definite or just closed for duration of lockdown? I'd have thought that would make the news if it exited Ireland. There was such a big fuss when it first opened.

I think it lost it's allure when it actually opened here though

ixoy · 01-03-2021 12:22am

'Snax in the City' on the corner of Aungier Street/Stephen Street Upper is gone. Had many sandwiches there over the years.

miamee · 01-03-2021 1:34pm

ixoy wrote: »

'Snax in the City' on the corner of Aungier Street/Stephen Street Upper is gone. Had many sandwiches there over the years.

Ah no! Was always a handy spot when stuck for a quick lunch. That's a shame now. There will be devastation in our office to hear this.

ixoy · 01-03-2021 2:54pm

miamee wrote: »

Ah no! Was always a handy spot when stuck for a quick lunch. That's a shame now. There will be devastation in our office to hear this.

Same from our office! A work colleague said it was up for rent so I'm guessing Shane, the proprietor, has finished up.

ligerdub · 01-03-2021 7:49pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

Why so? Demand for food retail units on Camden St has skyrocketed over the last few years. A unit like the Roma 2 will get snapped up in jig time, those opportunities dont come along too often and lots of food businesses would love a foothold on Camden Street

Selling to who? There's going to be less footfall in that area for a considerable amount of time compared to one year ago and beyond. Even if we assume that things get back to a degree of normality, there's no indication that it's going to be gangbusters for business.

Bear in mind the amount of businesses closing down will create much more vacancy for units to rent. More vacancy = downward pressure on rents.

There may be a bit of inflationary pressure to say the least due to the decline of the euro, but I just don't see how there's going to be an expansion of commercial activity that's going to bring along a scrap for units.

Ben D Bus · 01-03-2021 8:34pm

dhaughton99 wrote: »

Carluccis and Starbucks on Dawson st. Subway on merrion st lower.

I walked by Carluccios today. Signs are still up, furniture still inside and the giveaway the big Gaggia coffee machine is still there. I don't think they're gone yet.

Muahahaha · 01-03-2021 9:04pm

ligerdub wrote: »

Selling to who? There's going to be less footfall in that area for a considerable amount of time compared to one year ago and beyond. Even if we assume that things get back to a degree of normality, there's no indication that it's going to be gangbusters for business.

Bear in mind the amount of businesses closing down will create much more vacancy for units to rent. More vacancy = downward pressure on rents.

There may be a bit of inflationary pressure to say the least due to the decline of the euro, but I just don't see how there's going to be an expansion of commercial activity that's going to bring along a scrap for units.

I suppose it depends on what happens when eventually later this summer a large proportion of people are vaccinated. For people in their 20s and 30s who socialise in Camden Street Id say there will be no holding back once the pubs and clubs can re-open. Theres huge pent up demand in the economy and people have massive savings, once things re-open the street will be hopping just like before imo.

Like I said empty units on Camden Street dont come up all that often, Im aware of one that when it did it had over 20 applications from various food businesses/chains to establish themselves on the street. So I dont see the Roma 2 being that hard to fill. Business people will be thinking about the long term, the first year might not be great but they'll be thinking about how well they'll do over 5, 10, 15 years, etc. The Roma itself must have been there 30+ years so it just shows how infrequently these sorts of opportunities come up.

Im not saying this will be the case for all units and some streets will be slower than others to recover. But a unit in a prime location on a proven street like Camden wont have any problems getting rented out and likely at a higher rent than before as soon as the landlord sees the competition for it.

ligerdub · 01-03-2021 9:22pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

I suppose it depends on what happens when eventually later this summer a large proportion of people are vaccinated. For people in their 20s and 30s who socialise in Camden Street Id say there will be no holding back once the pubs and clubs can re-open. Theres huge pent up demand in the economy and people have massive savings, once things re-open the street will be hopping just like before imo.

Like I said empty units on Camden Street dont come up all that often, I'm aware of one that when it did it had over 20 applications from various food businesses/chains to establish themselves on the street. So I dont see the Roma 2 being that hard to fill. Business people will be thinking about the long term, the first year might not be great but they'll be thinking about how well they'll do over 5, 10, 15 years, etc. The Roma itself must have been there 30+ years so it just shows how infrequently these sorts of opportunities come up.

Im not saying this will be the case for all units and some streets will be slower than others to recover. But a unit in a prime location on a proven street like Camden wont have any problems getting rented out and likely at a higher rent than before as soon as the landlord sees the competition for it.

The whole market is interconnected. If there's downward trends in demand of retail units in general then even the most bustling street in the country will struggle to sustain a rate, outside of the currency losing value in general. The economy was relatively booming prior to last March. It's not going back to that, forget it. It's estimated that 25% of the country is in some way unemployed. Many people are doing well from the last 12 months, but many people are not.

Many more people will be working from home anyway, and I suspect that many people will decide to leave Dublin entirely as it's not worth it financially to them.

Bear in mind that we've been through 12 months of having most of those businesses locked down, many of them will not be returning. Even if things get back to normal the chance of that happening again will surely be in the minds of any retail unit with any sense. There's no way the value of such an arrangement isn't going to be damaged by that.

I don't doubt these places will be replaced, but I can't see this positive scenario from coming through.

Muahahaha · 04-03-2021 5:01pm

La Pizza next door to the Savoy is gone.

Not sure about Darwins on Aunger Street, the name is gone from one side of the building but is still there on the other side of it.

Caranica · 04-03-2021 7:42pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

La Pizza next door to the Savoy is gone.

It's over a year since I finished on Marlborough Street and that place was closed then.

CucaFace · 04-03-2021 8:57pm

vafankillar wrote: »

what places have you heard have closed or noticed have closed in dublin city in recent months during the lockdowns?

was in town earlier and noticed 3 that look finished ( probably saw others too just these are fresh)

eurostore up by stephens green

amorino, the ice-cream place at entrance of stephens green

O'Sheas restuarant/pub/hotel on talbot street had the sign gone and looked like it is gone for good (feel free to correct & i'll edit if not the case)

I'd be very surprised if O'Shea's is shut down for good. They had recently put a lot of money into it and had created a really nice hidden beer garden there.

They may (and im only guessing) have changed to accepting homeless people/refugee's in the hotel part to get through the last year as i have seen people going in and out of there and i can't see who else would be using the hotel in the last year.

Maybe they have just closed the bar until normality has returned?

poisonated · 05-03-2021 2:59am

Might have already been mentioned but cineworld

L1011 · 05-03-2021 10:28am

Cineworld is 'shut for the duration', not guaranteed to be gone.

Galadriel · 05-03-2021 6:23pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

La Pizza next door to the Savoy is gone.

Not sure about Darwins on Aunger Street, the name is gone from one side of the building but is still there on the other side of it.

Darwins downsized during the pandemic.

ongarboy · 07-03-2021 12:58pm

US fashion giant Abercrombie & Fitch to close Dublin city centre flagship outlet

https://www.independent.ie/business/irish/us-fashion-giant-abercrombie-and-fitch-to-close-dublin-city-centre-flagship-outlet-40165621.html

Oh dear, confirmed by the media now!

Cienciano · 07-03-2021 10:02pm

Finally, some good news from the pandemic

Muahahaha · 07-03-2021 10:29pm

Wonder will Lidl have a second attempt at renting that unit, iirc they wanted it before Abercrombie moved in

Thelonious Monk · 08-03-2021 3:57pm

I love lidl but do we really want a lidl in what may be a pedestrianised gorgeous area some day?

Hurrache · 09-03-2021 10:08am

A Lidl, or any supermarket, will be awful on that street, never mind a building of that size.

themacattack. · 09-03-2021 10:21am

CucaFace wrote: »

I'd be very surprised if O'Shea's is shut down for good. They had recently put a lot of money into it and had created a really nice hidden beer garden there.

They may (and im only guessing) have changed to accepting homeless people/refugee's in the hotel part to get through the last year as i have seen people going in and out of there and i can't see who else would be using the hotel in the last year.

Maybe they have just closed the bar until normality has returned?

spot on...o sheas still open but as you say for homeless/refugees...quite a few places around town are doing similar....intresting to see if they revert back to their old custom when the pandemic is over or stick with what they are doing now...i would imagine they would make more money from a hotel full of tourists than half full with government money but iv no idea really

Thelonious Monk · 09-03-2021 10:23am

I'm sad Roma 2 is shut down. I guess the trendy Camden st folk are too cool for chipper food these days!
Would often end up there after being in the Palace in the late 90s. Those were the days...

ixoy · 09-03-2021 11:17am

Hurrache wrote: »

A Lidl, or any supermarket, will be awful on that street, never mind a building of that size.

It would very much suit Apple if they were ever looking for a store in Dublin, especially if the area was pedestrianised.

MarkY91 · 09-03-2021 1:45pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I'm sad Roma 2 is shut down. I guess the trendy Camden st folk are too cool for chipper food these days!
Would often end up there after being in the Palace in the late 90s. Those were the days...

Is that the place Anthony Bourdain ate in on his Dublin show?

Ate there twice and it was just a typical scruffy chipper. I couldn't imagine it being missed.

Muahahaha · 09-03-2021 2:08pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I love lidl but do we really want a lidl in what may be a pedestrianised gorgeous area some day?

yeah Id agree. At the time when Lidl wanted it back in 2011 (after Habitat folded) An Taisce objected saying a discount supermarket wasnt a good fit for the area. I dont think DCC were too keen on the idea either.

Lidl have their new store on Aungier Street now so they probably wouldnt be interested in the Abercrombie site anymore. Aldi might be though given Lidl now have a south city centre presence, they tend to play cat and mouse with each other regarding locations. Whoever goes in there would have to be a major retailer given the size of the unit. Perhaps a retailer with a presence already in Dundrum but nothing in the city centre.

Cienciano · 09-03-2021 2:38pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I'm sad Roma 2 is shut down. I guess the trendy Camden st folk are too cool for chipper food these days!
Would often end up there after being in the Palace in the late 90s. Those were the days...

I used to love that chipper, it was great having a chipper with seats in that part of town. We used to go regularly enough in the 90s right up to 2007-06. But last time I was there, about 3 years ago it had really gone down hill. Very small menu and the food was absolutely terrible.

16-03-2021 11:47pm

Any word on Bailey bar off Grafton st or Fade Street social tapas restaurant? Are they still in business? Hope so....

Galadriel · 17-03-2021 11:07am

Vcu3656 wrote: »

Any word on Bailey bar off Grafton st or Fade Street social tapas restaurant? Are they still in business? Hope so....

The Bailey was open each time it was allowed too, most recently just before Christmas.

Muahahaha · 28-04-2021 3:58pm

Was in town last week and spotted a few new businesses that I dont think were there before
-Vodafone have opened a large shop on Henry St next to Vision Express
-Wing It, new shop on Georges street near the Dunnes HQ
-Bao Bun just opened Aungier St
-New sportsbar seems to be opening soon next door to Wowburger on Camden St

What places have closed during the pandemic?

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