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Administrative Officers 2019 in Revenue - Audit and Compliance

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  • #102
    GalwayGirl2020
    Registered Users Posts: 28 ✭GalwayGirl2020


    Hi All
    Just started to fill in the application form. Does anyone know what the next stage is after the application form if a candidate is successful? As in would it go to Supervised Tests or would they invite people for interview? Thanks in advance


  • #103
    AtticusFinch86
    Registered Users Posts: 358 ✭✭AtticusFinch86


    GalwayGirl2020 wrote: »
    Hi All
    Just started to fill in the application form. Does anyone know what the next stage is after the application form if a candidate is successful? As in would it go to Supervised Tests or would they invite people for interview? Thanks in advance

    I'd imagine the application will be ranked against pre defined criteria and then some applicants will be placed on a panel. Interviews will like only take place when offers are being made.


  • #104
    GalwayGirl2020
    Registered Users Posts: 28 ✭GalwayGirl2020


    AtticusFinch86 wrote: »
    I'd imagine the application will be ranked against pre defined criteria and then some applicants will be placed on a panel. Interviews will like only take place when offers are being made.

    Thanks a million. Does that mean that the supervised tests won't take place?


  • #105
    AtticusFinch86
    Registered Users Posts: 358 ✭✭AtticusFinch86


    GalwayGirl2020 wrote: »
    Thanks a million. Does that mean that the supervised tests won't take place?

    Wouldn't think so. I'd say you will either be eliminated for the process or put on a panel. I know a lad that applied for EO intake a couple of months ago. He sat the online test, was then called for supervised test, then placed on a panel.


  • #106
    Anonire
    Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭Anonire


    AtticusFinch86 wrote: »
    Wouldn't think so. I'd say you will either be eliminated for the process or put on a panel. I know a lad that applied for EO intake a couple of months ago. He sat the online test, was then called for supervised test, then placed on a panel.

    Was he an internal candidate? The external candidates definitely had to sit an interview before they were placed on a panel. An order of merit was formed from the supervised tests however you still had to pass the interview


  • #107
    Zulu Art
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 ✭Zulu Art


    Anonire wrote: »
    Was he an internal candidate? The external candidates definitely had to sit an interview before they were placed on a panel. An order of merit was formed from the supervised tests however you still had to pass the interview

    There can be some confusion on such things. In some competitions the supervised test will get you a panel placement. This is an order of merit which determines the order in which people are called to interview. So they may decide to call the best 50 (or other random number) on the panel to interview.

    Those who pass interview will then be placed on a new panel, based on the order of merit at interview. It is this panel that determines the order that job offers are made.


  • #108
    Anonire
    Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭Anonire


    Zulu Art wrote: »
    There can be some confusion on such things. In some competitions the supervised test will get you a panel placement. This is an order of merit which determines the order in which people are called to interview. So they may decide to call the best 50 (or other random number) on the panel to interview.

    Those who pass interview will then be placed on a new panel, based on the order of merit at interview. It is this panel that determines the order that job offers are made.

    I understand that in the most recent EO external competition for revenue an oom was formed based on the supervised testing. Candidates were then called for interview based on the oom at supervised testing and that oom only changed if a person failed the interview or didn't show up. I know it can vary for all competitions they seem to run slightly different each time.

    Has anyone the form completed yet? I think my best brain power comes at this time of the night for some strange reason.


  • #109
    2not4get
    Registered Users Posts: 46 ✭2not4get


    The form will take some time, I've spent some time on it and definitely going to take me another couple of hours to complete


  • #110
    mary poppins
    Registered Users Posts: 20 ✭mary poppins


    Mine is taking some time. It difficult to explain multiple requirements in 200 words


  • #111
    Anonire
    Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭Anonire


    mary poppins wrote: »
    Mine is taking some time. It difficult to explain multiple requirements in 200 words

    I agree alot of hours went into the form glad to have it finished. Very hard to squeeze the examples into the 200 words.
    I hope it ticks all the right boxes now.

    Best of luck to everyone.


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  • #112
    kriordan22
    Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭kriordan22


    Anonire wrote: »
    I agree alot of hours went into the form glad to have it finished. Very hard to squeeze the examples into the 200 words.
    I hope it ticks all the right boxes now.

    Best of luck to everyone.

    Did anyone submit their form yet? I did yesterday evening but I didn't get any auto reply or anything.. Did anyone get any sort of reply?


  • #113
    Ollie321
    Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭Ollie321


    kriordan22 wrote: »
    Did anyone submit their form yet? I did yesterday evening but I didn't get any auto reply or anything.. Did anyone get any sort of reply?

    No reply will be issued until either later today or early next week


  • #114
    Happy4
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭Happy4


    I submitted mine and nearly instantly got an email to say they couldn't open it and could I send it via pdf so I did.. nothing back since


  • #115
    Anonire
    Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭Anonire


    I got a reply when I submitted it. It wasnt an automatic reply. This was earlier in the week so I imagine people submitting today could be waiting a little while for a reply


  • #116
    Galantis
    Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭Galantis


    Form submitted thank god. Best of luck to all


  • #117
    mary poppins
    Registered Users Posts: 20 ✭mary poppins


    I submitted the application yesterday and got a receipt today.


  • #118
    2not4get
    Registered Users Posts: 46 ✭2not4get


    I submitted application on Friday morning, no receipt acknowledgement yet, anyone get an email that submitted on Friday ?


  • #119
    Ollie321
    Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭Ollie321


    I was under the impression there would be an official receipt issued to everyone, however if this doesn't happen today the next email might be an invite to interview, I'm only guessing tho


  • #120
    2not4get
    Registered Users Posts: 46 ✭2not4get


    Or possibly a polite refusal!


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  • #121
    cornel08biz
    Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭cornel08biz


    Still no reply... Just wondering if anyone received any kind of reply after sending the form on Thursday or Friday...
    Thank you !


  • #122
    Gee Kay
    Registered Users Posts: 12 ✭Gee Kay


    cornel08biz wrote: »
    Still no reply... Just wondering if anyone received any kind of reply after sending the form on Thursday or Friday...
    Thank you !

    Hi, I forwarded my application on Friday but have not heard anything back yet. I see that some hsve received replies back but I am not too worried about not getting an acknowledgment yet. They may received most of the applications on Thursday/Friday and this could be causing a delay in sending out replies.


  • #123
    Zulu Art
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 ✭Zulu Art


    Just wondering if anybody here alread works in revenue? I know AO's work in policy and investigation areas but other than generic, high level statements it's hard to assess what the day-to-day work is like.

    For interests, does everybody become CTA qualified? It seems from other threads that the EOs do. Or do some people get re-directed to customs at the start?


  • #124
    OutForTender
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭OutForTender


    Zulu Art wrote: »
    Just wondering if anybody here alread works in revenue? I know AO's work in policy and investigation areas but other than generic, high level statements it's hard to assess what the day-to-day work is like.

    For interests, does everybody become CTA qualified? It seems from other threads that the EOs do. Or do some people get re-directed to customs at the start?




    CTA would not be common in Revenue at all. Most Auditors wouldn't have it.


    The current EO Audit training is 1 year ITI Tax Technician, 1 year break, 1 year UL Level 7 Diploma. I think AO is the same.


  • #125
    Anonire
    Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭Anonire


    2not4get wrote: »
    Or possibly a polite refusal!

    I hope you are wrong!

    I expect it will take a while to go through all the forms. I wonder will many people be eliminated


  • #126
    Ollie321
    Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭Ollie321


    Anonire wrote: »
    I hope you are wrong!

    I expect it will take a while to go through all the forms. I wonder will many people be eliminated

    I wonder if they are going to look at the locations that have vacancies and invite candidates for those locations only?


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  • #127
    kriordan22
    Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭kriordan22


    cornel08biz wrote: »
    Still no reply... Just wondering if anyone received any kind of reply after sending the form on Thursday or Friday...
    Thank you !

    I rang them, they are replying individually to forms, so they have not been able to reply to everyone yet :)


  • #128
    Ollie321
    Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭Ollie321


    kriordan22 wrote: »
    I rang them, they are replying individually to forms, so they have not been able to reply to everyone yet :)

    Did they say what the next stage would be?


  • #129
    Anonire
    Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭Anonire


    kriordan22 wrote: »
    I rang them, they are replying individually to forms, so they have not been able to reply to everyone yet :)

    They must have an awful lot of forms to get through. Or maybe they are only opening them as they mark them.
    Nothing to do but wait now with the fingers crossed.


  • #130
    Zulu Art
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 ✭Zulu Art


    OutForTender wrote: »
    CTA would not be common in Revenue at all. Most Auditors wouldn't have it.


    The current EO Audit training is 1 year ITI Tax Technician, 1 year break, 1 year UL Level 7 Diploma. I think AO is the same.

    Does anybody know if the day to day function varies with each of the 4 panels?


  • #131
    Anonire
    Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭Anonire


    Zulu Art wrote: »
    Does anybody know if the day to day function varies with each of the 4 panels?

    There must be some different otherwise I can't see a reason why they would split it into different panels. Maybe the subject matters only. Tax may be more policy work and I imagine not in every revenue office could be centralised maybe. Then accounting which may be more towards audit possibly be in most revenue offices as they look after local businesses.

    The further educational qualifications will ensure a fundamental understanding of the area. I am only guessing I know not much help. I don't know anyone working in Revenue and find that at these interviews the panel won't have answers specifiic to the ultimate role one would be offered as you don't know what that is until the offer arrives.


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  • #132
    gerrykeegan
    Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭gerrykeegan


    Zulu Art wrote: »
    Does anybody know if the day to day function varies with each of the 4 panels?

    I came in fairly high on both tax and accounting. There was only 1 place between them. I asked when I got the call which panel was I being placed from...I was told it didn't matter. That is only my experience BTW


  • #133
    Bubbles100
    Registered Users Posts: 7 ✭Bubbles100


    I just received receipt of the application form which I sent on Friday. Does anyone know how long it should be to hear about an interview?

    TIA


  • #134
    BoyLaw937
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭BoyLaw937


    Do you think they are just going to skip the invigilated tests & move straight to the interview?


  • #135
    Anonire
    Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭Anonire


    BoyLaw937 wrote: »
    Do you think they are just going to skip the invigilated tests & move straight to the interview?

    They may or may not skip them nobody knows only revenue. If they don't skip them they will be very similar to the unsupervised ones so should be no cause of worry for anyone that met the required standard.

    They are shortlisting based on the form this time so it's not based solely on the aptitude tests as long as the standard was met, where some previous competitions have been progressed to interview based solely on the aptitude tests.


  • #136
    Galantis
    Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭Galantis


    Presume we will hear something this week


  • #137
    Achilles 123
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭Achilles 123


    Probably Friday afternoon


  • #138
    Anonire
    Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭Anonire


    Galantis wrote: »
    Presume we will hear something this week

    Here is hoping. There is alot of reading in those forms


  • #139
    Ollie321
    Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭Ollie321


    Anonire wrote: »
    Here is hoping. There is alot of reading in those forms

    Are they read or put through a computer programme?


  • #140
    Anonire
    Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭Anonire


    Ollie321 wrote: »
    Are they read or put through a computer programme?

    Good question I just presumed they read them.


  • #141
    AtticusFinch86
    Registered Users Posts: 358 ✭✭AtticusFinch86


    Ollie321 wrote: »
    Are they read or put through a computer programme?

    They must be read. Cant imagine public sector bodies having access to high level AI programs that can decipher job history and experience and then pull and rank competencies (from the examples we gave) against a set of pre defined competencies. There must be some level of human intervention. Computer programs generally cant handle that level of nuance. Or at least mainstream programs cant.


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  • #142
    LionelNashe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭LionelNashe


    AtticusFinch86 wrote: »
    They must be read. Cant imagine public sector bodies having access to high level AI programs that can decipher job history and experience and then pull and rank competencies (from the examples we gave) against a set of pre defined competencies. There must be some level of human intervention. Computer programs generally cant handle that level of nuance. Or at least mainstream programs cant.

    Especially considering that they're still asking people to fill in applications in MS Word documents and attach them to emails.


  • #143
    Ollie321
    Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭Ollie321


    I really do wish that when sending the receipts that they would state when they think we will hear more


  • #144
    AtticusFinch86
    Registered Users Posts: 358 ✭✭AtticusFinch86


    Ollie321 wrote: »
    I really do wish that when sending the receipts that they would state when they think we will hear more

    That would be great for sure but I couldn't see that happening as they would be inundated with requests if they didnt meet the date. It's a pain for applicants though.

    It's not even been 6 full working days yet since closing date for applications forms but it feels like months


  • #145
    Anonire
    Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭Anonire


    Ollie321 wrote: »
    I really do wish that when sending the receipts that they would state when they think we will hear more

    The recent EO campaign was good in that it gave the rough time lines in the information booklet. Saved alot of wondering and email watching.


  • #146
    cornel08biz
    Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭cornel08biz


    Just wandering if it would be appropriate to ring them... It's taking a while...


  • #147
    Anonire
    Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭Anonire


    cornel08biz wrote: »
    Just wandering if it would be appropriate to ring them... It's taking a while...

    I don't think ringing them would hurry up the process but If you are trying to find out the interview dates to plan something I have found them very helpful in the past.

    Hopefully they won't leave us waiting for too much longer anyway.


  • #148
    MiggyB
    Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭MiggyB


    Anonire wrote: »
    I don't think ringing them would hurry up the process but If you are trying to find out the interview dates to plan something I have found them very helpful in the past.

    Hopefully they won't leave us waiting for too much longer anyway.

    Will be end of next week before invites to next stage are issued


  • #149
    Zulu Art
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 ✭Zulu Art


    MiggyB wrote: »
    Will be end of next week before invites to next stage are issued

    Thank you. Did they give any idea of when interviews would take place?


  • #150
    MiggyB
    Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭MiggyB


    Zulu Art wrote: »
    Thank you. Did they give any idea of when interviews would take place?

    No currently reviewing forms under each stream


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  • #151
    Anonire
    Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭Anonire


    Thanks MiggyB.


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