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    #62
    Twogall
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭Twogall


    Hi. I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but just a quick question that isn't really worth it's own thread.

    I have heard that if you are on Disability allowance for more than a year with an ongoing illness that is expected to last for at least another year then you should apply for invalidity pension.

    I was wondering if there is any difference and if I should apply, or just wait for them to contact me? I've been on DA for around 2 years now due to heart failure and Ankylosing Spondylitis and have never received any communications from the Social Welfare since.

    Also, I have heard that they pay the Invalidity pension on top of Disability allowance, therefore doubling the money, but haven't found any official confirmation online regards this. Is this true?

    Any help would be appreciated.


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    #63
    splinter65
    Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Twogall wrote: »
    Hi. I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but just a quick question that isn't really worth it's own thread.

    I have heard that if you are on Disability allowance for more than a year with an ongoing illness that is expected to last for at least another year then you should apply for invalidity pension.

    I was wondering if there is any difference and if I should apply, or just wait for them to contact me? I've been on DA for around 2 years now due to heart failure and Ankylosing Spondylitis and have never received any communications from the Social Welfare since.

    Also, I have heard that they pay the Invalidity pension on top of Disability allowance, therefore doubling the money, but haven't found any official confirmation online regards this. Is this true?

    Any help would be appreciated.

    If you want to claim Invalidity Pension now then you need to have 48 PRSI contributions either paid or credited to your record in 2019 or 2018 plus 260 other PRSI fully paid.
    You get either DA or Invalidity Pension not both.


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    #64
    Shinsen
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭Shinsen


    After a wait of approximately four months from the request of review, I have been accepted for the Invalidity pension.
    I want to thank you for your messages and advice on this forum.


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    #65
    splinter65
    Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Shinsen wrote: »
    After a wait of approximately four months from the request of review, I have been accepted for the Invalidity pension.
    I want to thank you for your messages and advice on this forum.

    Well done to you. You can relax now.


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    #66
    Whiplashy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭Whiplashy


    Shinsen wrote: »
    After a wait of approximately four months from the request of review, I have been accepted for the Invalidity pension.
    I want to thank you for your messages and advice on this forum.

    That's great news


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    #67
    Darrio
    Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭Darrio


    Hi All, I hope you are all keeping well and staying safe at this difficult time.

    Just a quick question. A friend of mine recently won his appeal for the Invalidity Pension. When I won my appeal, it stated Invalidity Pension (S) on my letter but on his, it states Invalidity Pension (T). What is the difference if any ?.

    Thanks


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    #68
    Shinsen
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭Shinsen


    Darrio wrote: »
    Hi All, I hope you are all keeping well and staying safe at this difficult time.

    Just a quick question. A friend of mine recently won his appeal for the Invalidity Pension. When I won my appeal, it stated Invalidity Pension (S) on my letter but on his, it states Invalidity Pension (T). What is the difference if any ?.

    Thanks

    Hello.
    I cannot say as I got the IP via the review instead of the appeal.
    I don't see any additional letter like you did.
    All the parties (appeal office and IP department) answer emails and phone calls with no problem if you want to know further. Recently, I have emailed the IP department different times and they've always answered within 24 hours.


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    #69
    Noodles81
    Registered Users Posts: 296 ✭✭Noodles81


    I applied for IP last week. My illness benefit ended a few weeks ago and no one told me. Contacted the social on twitter and they rang me to say it was up and my next step was the IP.

    I filled out the form but there was only 1 question about my illness and it didn't ask for specialist names or anything.

    Will they contact me for those things or should I have sent them? It didn't say to send in anything so I thought it was a preliminary form and then they'd want all the medical details later.

    Has anyone any experience with applying for this?


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    #70
    splinter65
    Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Noodles81 wrote: »
    I applied for IP last week. My illness benefit ended a few weeks ago and no one told me. Contacted the social on twitter and they rang me to say it was up and my next step was the IP.

    I filled out the form but there was only 1 question about my illness and it didn't ask for specialist names or anything.

    Will they contact me for those things or should I have sent them? It didn't say to send in anything so I thought it was a preliminary form and then they'd want all the medical details later.

    Has anyone any experience with applying for this?

    Send as much up to date medical evidence as you can possibly gather up and a letter from yourself stating how your bad health is going to prevent you from being able to work for the foreseeable future. Make the letter as a daily diary of the difficulties you face.
    Incidentally giving them your specialists names without a report from that specialist is pointless. They won’t contact your specialist for you.
    Make sure to put your PPSN and DOB and mention that you have sent the application form already. Ask them to consider this with your application.
    Do this as soon as you can.
    You can ring up today and tell them that you are doing this. They will wait then to process your application when the evidence arrives.


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    #71
    Joesa
    Registered Users Posts: 1 ✭Joesa


    Hi all, I'm 40 years old and in receipt of IP. I suffered a head injury 13 years ago. I've been in receipt of IP for the last 7 years.

    Lately I've been considering returning to work but I'm very nervous about doing so. Firstly while my condition doesn't come across as severe I find I constantly have problems within myself that I get hard to explain.

    A roll has come up in my previous place of employment that I think would suit me. My previous employer would be aware of my disability and I feel there would be a level of acceptance towards me.

    I was getting therapy and attending different specialists but nothing in the last 7/8 years. I would be afraid if I was assessed that I might lose my pension. If I wasn't fit to stay at work, would I have to re apply for the invalidity allowance and then IP

    Anyone know the return to work protocol for people in receipt of IP

    I currently stay at home with the children and help my father out on the farm a bit. I have great help and support from my mother and sister which allow me to do this.
    My wife works but the security of knowing I'm getting 208euro each week is hard to leave.


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    #72
    Shinsen
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭Shinsen


    Joesa wrote: »
    Hi all, I'm 40 years old and in receipt of IP. I suffered a head injury 13 years ago. I've been in receipt of IP for the last 7 years.

    Lately I've been considering returning to work but I'm very nervous about doing so. Firstly while my condition doesn't come across as severe I find I constantly have problems within myself that I get hard to explain.

    A roll has come up in my previous place of employment that I think would suit me. My previous employer would be aware of my disability and I feel there would be a level of acceptance towards me.

    I was getting therapy and attending different specialists but nothing in the last 7/8 years. I would be afraid if I was assessed that I might lose my pension. If I wasn't fit to stay at work, would I have to re apply for the invalidity allowance and then IP

    Anyone know the return to work protocol for people in receipt of IP

    I currently stay at home with the children and help my father out on the farm a bit. I have great help and support from my mother and sister which allow me to do this.
    My wife works but the security of knowing I'm getting 208euro each week is hard to leave.

    Hi Joesa. I didn't reply straight away to your question, I thought somebody else more knowledgeable would answer first.
    I'm aware that people with Invalidity pension who wish to return to work they can do it and apply for another benefit.
    Here on this page: https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/employment_and_disability/working_with_a_disability.html
    you'll read "If you are getting Illness Benefit or Invalidity Pension and you wish to return to work you may qualify for Partial Capacity Benefit."

    As per my experience, I found very good support from Citizen information office. They'll be able to give you all the information and you'll be able to ask all the possible scenarios of your situation. Also if you call the Invalidity pension office they'll be able to advise you, or the Partial Capacity Benefit Section if you know that this what you want to look for. All the information and contact details are on that page.
    It's worth it to ask if you can go back to IP in case plans change. Something that you might not need, but it's good to know for your peace of mind.
    All the best.


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    #73
    SteelyDanJalapeno
    Registered Users Posts: 14,240 ✭✭✭✭SteelyDanJalapeno


    Hi all,

    Are you allowed have other sources of income while receiving invalidity pension? I believe you can work a few days a week, but I'm wondering can somebody become a landlord without it affecting their invalidity claim?

    Thanks


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    #74
    hawthorne
    Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭hawthorne


    SteelyDanJalapeno wrote: »
    Hi all,

    Are you allowed have other sources of income while receiving invalidity pension? I believe you can work a few days a week, but I'm wondering can somebody become a landlord without it affecting their invalidity claim?

    Thanks

    IP is a non means tested payment and you can have as much income besides it as you want.
    Your problem will be the revenue commissioners and not the DoSP.


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    #75
    SteelyDanJalapeno
    Registered Users Posts: 14,240 ✭✭✭✭SteelyDanJalapeno


    hawthorne wrote: »
    IP is a non means tested payment and you can have as much income besides it as you want.
    Your problem will be the revenue commissioners and not the DoSP.

    You mean there will be tax to pay? same as any other landlord?


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    #76
    hawthorne
    Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭hawthorne


    SteelyDanJalapeno wrote: »
    You mean there will be tax to pay? same as any other landlord?

    Yes- you will be treated like any other citizen or any other landlord.
    Revenue will decide how much tax you have to pay.
    DoSP has no interest in what you own or your other income in general. You can have millions in your bank account and still get your Invalidity Pension.


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    #77
    foreverme
    Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭foreverme


    Hi all. I have applied for Invalidity pension and I got a letter today telling me that I have an assessment by a Medical Assessor in November. It will be done by telephone. Can anybody tell me what to expect please? How long does the phone call usually last and what type of questions can I expect. I have a mental illness . Thanks for any help.


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    #78
    Whiplashy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭Whiplashy


    foreverme wrote: »
    Hi all. I have applied for Invalidity pension and I got a letter today telling me that I have an assessment by a Medical Assessor in November. It will be done by telephone. Can anybody tell me what to expect please? How long does the phone call usually last and what type of questions can I expect. I have a mental illness . Thanks for any help.

    I've only ever had an assessment in person but I presume it will be pretty similar. It will be with a doctor and they'll just ask you a bit about your condition(s) and the impact on your daily life. Nothing to be worried about. Just answer all questions open and honestly.


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    #79
    foreverme
    Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭foreverme


    thanks for that.


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    #80
    waxmelts2000
    Registered Users Posts: 604 ✭✭✭waxmelts2000


    I just came across this thread. I have just received 2 forms from SW on Thursday ,one for me to complete and one for my GP to complete.
    My form is called MR99. I have been on illness benefit for 18 months so I guess this is to see where I am on returning to work.
    Having read this thread however I am now quiet anxious in thinking that I will be refused anyway . I will be filling out the form as best I can and so will my GP.

    Will they send me to a medical assessor anyway or do you just get refused based on what you say on the forms?


    Thanks for reading


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    #81
    sicknotexi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭sicknotexi


    I've just been informed that I should apply for this as my Illness Benefit is coming to an end (after I sent off forms I'd received
    asking for details both from myself and my doctor)
    I have been in receipt of Illness Benefit since October 2019. At the time I had an arm injury. A month or so later I was diagnosed as a type 1 diabetic. My arm eventually healed up but then Covid 19 hit and I was still getting my doctor to send in certs for my diabetes as I was in a high risk category. With this coming to an end I am unsure what to do.
    To be honest I don't think I have a great chance of this getting accepted should I apply but if I don't apply I will have no income coming in. I'm 40 and have yet to have any Covid vaccination. Why didn't they just tell me to apply for unemployment assistance if they want to end my illness benefit? Tbh I'm very confused at the moment and have no idea what I should do.


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    #82
    AgnesTruluv
    Registered Users Posts: 18 ✭AgnesTruluv


    Give Citizens Information a call.
    https://www.citizensinformation.ie

    Did so recently and found them very helpful in explaining things.

    I have also rung the Illness Benefit section in the Department of Social Protection, in the past, and found them extremely helpful.


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    #83
    Whiplashy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭Whiplashy


    sicknotexi wrote: »
    I've just been informed that I should apply for this as my Illness Benefit is coming to an end (after I sent off forms I'd received
    asking for details both from myself and my doctor)
    I have been in receipt of Illness Benefit since October 2019. At the time I had an arm injury. A month or so later I was diagnosed as a type 1 diabetic. My arm eventually healed up but then Covid 19 hit and I was still getting my doctor to send in certs for my diabetes as I was in a high risk category. With this coming to an end I am unsure what to do.
    To be honest I don't think I have a great chance of this getting accepted should I apply but if I don't apply I will have no income coming in. I'm 40 and have yet to have any Covid vaccination. Why didn't they just tell me to apply for unemployment assistance if they want to end my illness benefit? Tbh I'm very confused at the moment and have no idea what I should do.

    Tbh I think it's unlikely that you'll get invalidity pension unless your diabetes is not under control. I'm on it myself and it is a hard payment to get. You wouldn't normally be entitled to jobseekers either as you're not looking for work, though with covid they may make an exception. Your best bet is to ring citizens information and get some advice. At least you should be due your vaccine soon as I think they're on 45-50 year olds at the moment.


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    #84
    EuropeanUpRising
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭EuropeanUpRising


    Anyone applying for Invadility Pension , really need to take pictures of the form after you fill it in and sign it so , you can also Email it directly to the office which they will put on file after 48hrs or so , the post method yes , you must do but , after applying for the pension myself I learned very quickly they love losing the application in the social welfare offices and when approached on how the application is been handled, they just say we never received it , this is where the Email is handy because this can always be tracked just remember the time/Date and you can slap them with that , I moved abroad when on illness benefits its took me 11 months to get approved but only with the help of the country I'm residing in , I'd probably still be waiting or refused if I was still in ireland , you need to keep the pressure on **** the phone calls keep the emails rolling into their office and you have it as evidence if they try to deny anything. Just go to you local TDs with the Emails and replies, hope this helps someone .



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